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TL;DR: While I don't disagree with you completely (and you make reasonable points), the devil is in the details. But this has been argued ad nauseum ad prior to your megu-posts, the thread was sinking merrily down.
>you should not want to do the latter when the former exists
I disagree. Removing pedophilic imagery from all media is a socially important step as it firmly denies potential pedophile defenders an out with disengenous arguments. I don't think lolicons ought to get prosecuted, but it shouldn't be encouraged, and should be excluded from easy public access.
> be glad the majority have apparently convinced themselves that they don't have any attraction to real children
<it is either extremely effective at satisfying such urges or it outright replaces them
Trust me, I am glad. I just have the empathy to think long-term and consider the fact that helping people is also a responsibility of a communist society for material and ethical reasons. Historically bans and incrimination have failed to help without supplements. Moreover I would say lolicon tends to be a gateway into pedoshit for some people.
>pedos are hated deeply and opportunities to shit on them are taken extremely enthusiastically
I agree, HOWEVER like with many other unsavory movements and ideas, pedos have been quietly trying to get normalized through euphamisms and bullshit research and normalization through liberal reform.
>esponsible parents and mentor figures taught me to be wary and continue to do so to the coming generations
Same, and I agree, however I have noticed a trend of this kind of wariness being less and less common, at least in the West.
>"MAP"s are a meme and are at best told to seek help by sane people
m8 I have been to PTA meetings and other such activities where such people are not only called in to schools to talk to children, but have lengthy, applauded TED talks and, of all things, followers. Steven Pinker is a pedo apologist and is quite influential.
>an age of progressive views on sexual expression gaining more ground
It's an inherent part of liberal idpol
>I don't think this signals a need to suppress such expression or even that any action needs to be taken to stop a perceived pedo normalization
In this I firmly disagree. They are the kind of people who will take a mile if you give them an inch. It's the same reason all sorts of alphabet soup idpol with 64 genders and sexualities plague Gay Rights movements. They are the same people who defend child beauty pageants and child drag queens and 'determination of gender' for kids who aren't even close to puberty, let alone able to be conscious of such concepts.
>If you disapprove of them then let them come to you. Give them enough rope to hang their illness with.
I wish it were that easy, but that's not PC anymore. Gulag jokes are only ironic these days.
>It's one of the topics that gets people of pretty much any mainstream leaning together in agreement
As I said, it's not normalized NOW, but it's slowly being pushed and prodded. Expose people to it, desensitize them and slowly bring it out more and more over decades.
>porky obviously must be behind the pedos
Is Epstein and the Westboro pedo ring and numerous evidence of them being involved in such heinous activities not evidence enough? It seems a disproportionate number of porkies are involved with pedoshit.
Your trust in the human race's disgust with pedoshit and the controversy of lolicon is heartwarming, my own faith in humanity is much lower. The trends of societal development of he past century and a half demonstrate a very clear picture to me of just how proficient global capital is at obfuscating truths and playing the long-game.
>The moral panic over cartoon pornography
As I said, it's a good bit more than that
>The disregard for the obvious practical answer for the opportunity to tell someone to stop enjoying something on moral grounds
Because this is a mongolian throatsinging board, not a professional debate. Moreover while I think that logic and proofs are important, the idea that morals are 'bad' is a rather ironic one to have for a communist, given the fact that morals arise from the dialectical development of society, which in turn is part of human evolution, as has been discussed in the thread.
>I don't like it and usually don't indulge it
Then why post about it at all?
>I explain why I believe it's redundant to even care.
And you make a good argument. But my consideration for the topic and my personal dislike for loli hentai is based primarily on a more long-term considerations. Futile, I know, but the most I can do is try and at least get people to think and not just 'consoom coom product'.