No.7663
>>7658Never change power ranking autists. I disagree with almost all placements on this chart.
It would've been excellent as a list without the tiering nonsense.
No.7671
but the lumpens though,
leftypol said they bad
not bad stuff, actually
No.7672
Here's a reminder to check out these two video games about Japanese delinquents.
Justice Gakuen (AKA Rival Schools), a 3D fighter by Capcom, and Kenka Banchou, a beat 'em up franchise, of which only the 3rd game for the PSP has been released in English.
>>7668Beware the nice ones, or so they say. This is from the live-action Aoi Haru movie.
>>7670Looks brutal. Thanks for the rec
>>7658Thanks for the chart. Now I think I've actually seen it before, but I forgot. Do I need to read/watch a lot of delinquent stuff to be able to fully appreciate Cromartie High School?
No.7675
you should read bakkuon rettou
No.7676
>>7675Ok, since I'm now phoneposting this is the one I ended up opening in my browser. So I'm gonna read it first. Thanks
No.7684
Akira is still the best delinquent story.
No.7685
>>7684What makes Akira a delinquent story?
No.7687
>>7685From beginning to end it's about kids opposing authority.
No.7688
>>7687That doesn't make it a delinquent anime. Sure, rebelliousness is a big part of delinquent media, but there's much more to it. It's also about having style and enjoying youth while you can. It's a really down to earth genre. If Akira was less focused on the psychic science fiction war stuff, and more on the protagonist hanging out with his friends and riding those cool bikes around that shitty city while avoiding the cops like we see in the beginning of the movie, then it could be considered a delinquent anime.
No.7707
>>7688I was more referencing the mange. The movie doesn't really channel the delinquency much after Tetsuo gets psychic powers.
No.7709
>>7707Well i haven't read the manga so i can't judge.
No.7720
Did anyone mention Zankyou no Terror yet?
Its pretty neat
No.7731
>>7690Haven't they always been kind of like that though?
>>7720I'm reading about it right now, but it doesn't look like it fits the genre either. Although that doesn't mean I'm not gonna watch it, of course.
No.7732
>>7690The Manga in picrel is fucking trash man. Started off strong, but got stale quickly. Just another cookie cutter shonen. Sure seems like shonen are just pumped out after the same formula nowadays. Not a hunterfag, but back then authors actually dared to change up the shonen formula abit
No.7733
>>7731>but it doesn't look like it fits the genre eitherMaybe i dont understand the genre but I would have assumed beeing a terrorist is the highest stage of delinquint
No.7738
>>7733when we talk about "Japanese delinquents" we mean this specific kind
>>7735even if they don't commit any crime, they're considered "delinquents", for example if they skip classes or get into fights with one another, but usually there's also a subculture/aesthetic/attitude involved
No.7744
Grappler Baki go through a deliniquent arc
You could make an argument Yu Yu Hakusho fits the description also
No.8496
>>7732We are in an era of "subversion bad!" era of media. Just look at all the shit you see in /tg/, /a/, /v/. Shaking things up is bad because it's reddit.
No.8499
>>8496nerds have become terribly boring.
No.9692
Joseph Joestar is a delinquent
No.9714
>>9707>proper delinquentKek
No.9720
>>9715Mean? It's an expression of reaction, like mirth or surprise. As to why: A delinquent is generally a rule breaker and so does not typically behave "proper" or in other words with manners, which makes the use of the two words so close together sound a little oxymoronic.
No.9770
>>9721Yep, I didn't mean to sound mocking.
No.9914
Would the main two characters of Slayers Return count? They're kind a delinquent in their behaviour.
No.9936
>>9914If they're not cool Japanese high school students, they don't count
No.9943
>>9938I'd say yes, definitely, even though he's not a student.
also, related
>>9823 No.9950
>>9938>that pose >that smug face I raffed
No.10076
>>7670be more obvious in the title of the mango.
No.10238
>>10237lol wtf this sucks bad
No.10254
>>10237>muh Japanese delinquents are le JoJo referenceI hate jojofags so much, also
>anime Jotarocool pic though
No.10255
>>10254>Muh Jojo reference uygha relax its a meme, literally the "is that a Jojo reference"
>anime Jojo ?
No.10300
>>10255I mean that after the Part 3 anime dropped all the jojotards did parodies using the anime designs intead of the manga ones.
Effective way to spot an animeonly. No.10304
>>10300uygha I never read the manga or seen the anime, I literally posted a common meme.
No.10309
>>7670I read Ichi The Killer recently thinking this panel was in it but it wasn't, so what is it?
No.10328
>>10304My first reply wasn't directed at you but at the artist, dude. Don't take it personally.
No.10367
>characters
Caulifla from Dragon Ball Super runs a small gang and is a total delinquent.
No.10385
>>10309it's the manga ichi the killer is sequel to. it's just called "ichi"
No.10657
The MC of Midori Days is aa delinquent
No.12818
>>10328Ah ok, no problemo
No.12819
>>9938Joe is one of the first shonen protagonists
No.12820
>>9943That’s technically because he skipped the highschool arc and went straight to juvenile prison island lol
No.12821
>>12817Thank you for the good contribution.
I fucking love this kenny lauderdale guy and his videos on 80s anime but especially the ones on delinquent stuff. Even more specifically, the sukeban stuff:
"The original Kill la Kill"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92xJ29Jbwo4"This was really popular in the 80s"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaUXsrYwuvQ"She only used dynamite like one time ok?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0hywe3uiCo"The show that ended a genre"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0GmMbH-1hcWhat's up with the more clickbait-y video titles lately though? I don't remember that.
No.12822
>>12821"Youtube Reviewers" can't "analyze" anything without comparing it with other media.
No.12825
>>12822I wouldn't say that guy is a "reviewer", rather he just talks about obscure Japanese shows and trivia related to it. Since you replied this quickly, I doubt you watched a single one of those videos.
No.12826
>>12825>rather he just talks about obscure Japanese shows and trivia related to itThat's a youtube reviewer.
>I doubt you watched a single one of those videos.That doesn't even change what I said.
No.12828
>>12826>That doesn't even change what I said.Yeah it does. That youtuber doesn't do analysis and his videos aren't meant to be critical. And since what he's talking about is part of a genre, it has to be compared with other media that is part of that genre.
No.12830
>>12821zoomers cant talk about anything without using a youtuber as a proxy for their opinions, i wish theyd stop polluting anime boards
No.12833
>>12830 >without using a youtuber as a proxy for their opinions<muh zoomer <muh animu bordyou're a retard and fallacious, you are the polluter
>>12826>That's a youtube reviewerNo, no it is not; a review isn't the same as an overview anon.
>doesn't even change what I saidYour statement doesn't mean anything and is not correct - many of his videos do not directly refer to any other media except in direct relation to the media he is talking about at the moment. Moreover, media are not made in a vacuum and are relevant to other media of the past or present in analysis.
>>12821 Ya welcome m8
No.12835
>>12830>using a youtuber as a proxy for their opinionsI use this youtuber to find out about obscure 80s anime that very few people talk about, nothing more. How about you watch the videos before posting something irrelevant?
>>12833Yeah it feels like /anime/ is more active tonight but it's especially shitty right now too. What's with these angry fags who only come here to complain?
No.12838
>>12835>What's with these angry fags who only come here to complain I think it's /pol/, they come around at times and bitch about inane things, pretending to be /a/ purists.
No.13149
>>13086I'm watching this anime right now
loving it so far, lol'd many times
No.20772
>>13086Cromartie High School - Opening | "Jun" by Takuro Yoshida
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vNfhGAEOo8&ab_channel=RetroCrush IN case the Embed dies.
No.21054
Bungo Stray Dogs sort of fits this, it has delinquents as characters.
No.21822
>>21057Video is
Ashita no Joe 2 Ballad OST
in case the Embed dies
No.23244
>>7655Based thread, needs more love. This thread pisses off Japanese conservatives and the yakuza, which makes me very happy.
>>7674>still related imoWe do not shill for the lumpenbourgeoisie and their henchmen in this holy thread.
No.23321
>>7655Can you recommend me some anti-capitalist/anti-corporatocratic/anti-yakuza banchou manga? I want to stick it to the yakuza by reading manga in my apartment in a different country, that'll show 'em who's the boss of the gym.
Ideally I want to see a banchou massacreing all the yakuza. All of them. Total yakuza death.
No.23323
>>23321 (me)
Kill the yakuza. Behead the yakuza. Roundhouse kick a yakuza into the concrete. Slam dunk a yakuza baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy yakuza. Defecate in a yakuza's food. Launch the yakuza into the sun. Stir fry the yakuza in a wok. Toss the yakuza into active volcanos. Urinate into a yakuza's gas tank. Judo throw the yakuza into a wood chipper. Twist the yakuza's heads off. Report the yakuza to the NTA. Karate chop the yakuza in half. Curb stomp pregnant yakuza wives. Trap the yakuza in quicksand. Crush the yakuza in the trash compactor. Liquefy the yakuza in a vat of acid. Eat the yakuza. Dissect the yakuza. Exterminate the yakuza in the gas chamber. Stomp the yakuza's skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate the yakuza in the oven. Lobotomize the yakuza. Mandatory abortions for the yakuza. Grind the yakuza fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown the yakuza in fried chicken grease. Vaporize the yakuza with a ray gun. Kick the old yakuza down the stairs. Feed the yakuza to alligators. Slice the yakuza with a katana.
No.23406
bump
No.23443
Obviously the delinquent is in "rebellion" to normal society to some level but in the popular media of Japan at least it seems that usually the delinquency is temporary and the delinquent eventually becomes respectable. Although from anecdotal recollections that I have read online even the actual real-life delinquents didn't really get into much significant crime but mostly small fights and other more innocent stuff, such as theft of school supplies, deviation for others whom were in need.
Anyways, recs:
Sukeban Deka is quite of course classic.
Ore-sama Teacher is so far quite hilarious, and the mains who are presumably coupled are somewhat reminiscent of .
Cromartie High School is also quite funny, and even has been adapted for the movie theatre.
<if you think about it perhaps
Would Huckleberry Finn, in the book with his name titular, count as one character that is delinquent, on the question of "delinquent" media? He persists in his delinquency even at the conclusion of the narrative. That is perhaps more the mature demographics' sort of delinquents' tale, arguably, which is written for the function of serious critique.
No.23469
>>10665And then he gets reintegrated into soyciety and they live happily ever after under wage slavery. The end.
No.23470
>>23443>in the popular media of Japan at least it seems that usually the delinquency is temporary and the delinquent eventually becomes respectablePrecisely, the Japanese are too cucked by hierarchical institutions to tolerate any genuine rebels, the polar opposite of Americans. I keep seeing this shit and it pisses me off.
>Would Huckleberry Finn, in the book with his name titular, count as one character that is delinquent, on the question of "delinquent" media?Y E S No.23481
>>23443>>23470We really need to find a better translation because "delinquent" is misleading, in my opinion. Most of them are just kids who want to have fun before becoming adults.
No.23484
>>23481Yes, it's called "lumpen" or "gangster." But the so-called "Japanese delinquents" are actually called "yankii" and "bosozoku" (the ones who use motorcycles). Yankii are just Japanese criminals who aren't part of a yakuza clan and have a distinct uniform like that of Jotaro Kujo because they often start their criminal lifestyle in high school.
No.23486
>>23484 (me)
Yankii mimick the customs of the yakuza and yet they don't want to join them for one reason or another. They're also ruder and more aggressive than the yakuza (the "idiot from Osaka" stereotype) while the yakuza are more "trad" if you will. Yankii are more "punk."
No.23487
>>23486 (me)
Man, people in Kanzai are way more fun than those boring Tokyo prudes.
No.23489
>>23487Kansai is so much better than Tokyo that it's not even funny. The Western coalition should have won at Sekigahara.
>>23484I think they're more similar to hooligans than to straight up criminals.
No.23491
>>23489"Hooligan criminals."
I think it's a spectrum. Some are legit criminals, just not the yakuza ones. The most important aspect of them is their strong ties within their gangs unlike more atomized lawbreakers, a trait they took from the yakuza.
No.23752
Some interesting videos about Delinquents in Japan, the history, some basic way of speaking etc.
>Talking Like a Japanese Delinquenthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1BFt4SYtC4
>BANCHŌ & SUKEBAN - Japan’s Delinquent SCHOOL GANGS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEITKSiHMc0
>The romanticism of delinquents in Japanese Mediahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ntf2LC7nMEsIn a way one can conclude that Sukeban and Delinquent culture, was Japan's equivalent of Punk counter-culture and rebels, and similarly were romanticized in anime. I'll upload the videos as files later.
No.23837
>>23752>>23836Honestly I think there may be more Sukeban works than Delinquent works and most of either are live action such as Sukeban: Taiman Shobu (1974).
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1900990/ It seems most of those stories also tended to come out in the 70s and 80s, with them being relegated to background stereotypes in later works as the subcultures died out.
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