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 No.3780[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Hello everyone, we have received the results of our project proposal topic, and I'm delighted to announce that we are teaming up with 'leftypedia' to deliver our planned 'argument/talking point resource' idea. In case you don't know, leftypedia is the current version of the old abandoned 'marxistpedia' which was a project started by leftypol users back in the day, so I think this is sort of like a homecoming in a way.

https://leftypedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

Anyway, if you have a look at the leftypedia site you might be able to tell that they have a much more formal and 'encyclopedic' tone than what we're planning, just like wikipedia, but the admin is going to create a separate 'category' for our new content that will be called something like 'rhetoric: topic' rather than just 'topic', this will also feature on the frontpage much like the encyclopedic content. As a tenplate, I'd like you to feast your eyes on these pages which someone on leftypedia already made (albeit only on their personal userspace for now).

https://leftypedia.org/wiki/User:Anarcho-Bolshevik/compendium

I'd like to ask if anyone can come up with a slightly more catchy name for our new section than 'rhetoric', cause that sounds a bit cumbersome to me even though I came up with it, so yeah, open to suggestions.

So, since that isn't implemented yet, I'd like you all to try familiarise yourselves with the site for now, maybe take a look at the articles that are already there and improve some of them if you feel able. Unfortunately the site currently has only edit by approval so you will have to wait for any changes you make to be approved, this is because of a persistent spambot problem and I hope that we will be able to work out something to change this to normal editing as on wikipedia and the like, please just bear with it for now.

If you have an answer to a 'common question', or you have an effortpost you'd like to archive and save, then please post it in this topic for now so that we can work on it together until we can figure out how to categorise our new section of the site.

Thanks for your attention!
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 No.12882

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II think I've fixed all the templates that were in the old files. The site is looking a lot better. I've brought back basically everything that I can without admin help (images, mainly).

I also wrote a couple articles. Read or edit them if you like:
https://wiki.leftypol.org/wiki/Tankie
https://wiki.leftypol.org/wiki/Bourgeois_revolution
And rewrote these ones:
https://wiki.leftypol.org/wiki/Political_correctness
https://wiki.leftypol.org/wiki/Identity_politics

 No.19899

>>12882
Overhauled template on political economy:
https://wiki.leftypol.org/wiki/Template:Political_economy_sidebar
Work in progress. Also working on a "Theories of imperialism" one

 No.20225

Images are fixed. Templates are almost all fixed, making it much easier to see which pages need to be improved:
https://wiki.leftypol.org/wiki/Category:Editor_categories

I also plan on adding WikiProjects, which would allow groups of editors of a certain interest, like a tendency (MLs, anarchists) or topic (Hegel, imperialism) to work together. See for example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Socialism

 No.20237

>>12882
>>19899
>>20225
Good to see that the images are fixed, it'd be a shame for my Great Plan article to be permanently referenceless.



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 No.20158[Reply]

I do not care about the /leftypol/ mob, I love reading Thomas Piketty.
>waaaah but his solutions are too soft
Blah blah blah. The thick of his work, 99% of it, is just compiling and analyzing heaps of data, which he does exceptionally well.

 No.20164

bump

 No.20165

>>20158
It's not bad but I'm suspicious of anyone promoting him. I've seen techbro entrepreneurs have Picketty capital book on their desk.

 No.20197

>>20158
I only read Capital in the 21st Century by him, and I don't think I even finished it because of the amount of repetition and redundancy.
Nonetheless, I agree he's an interesting and even useful writer. At the end of the day he's describing the gradual accumulation of wealth and growth of inequality through mainstream economics language, which might not be new to marxists but is an additional tool at the very least.
When talking to people who are not socialists about the world I often find myself referencing him, which is harder to do with marxian economists.

 No.20232

>>20158
>The thick of his work, 99% of it, is just compiling and analyzing heaps of data
wow sounds dumb



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 No.20198[Reply]

I plan to study this book over the next week starting tonight or tomorrow. Anyone wanna join the read? I'd wager ~50-70pgs (relative to my edition) per day is doable for most. So my plan then roughly is
>The three forewords, Intro (What Herr Duhring promises) and then chapters III-VIII
>From VIII to XIV
>Second part Political Economy I-V
>Then V-X
>Third ch. Socialism in its entirety

Links:
https://ia800304.us.archive.org/0/items/antidhringherr00enge/antidhringherr00enge.pdf
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1877/anti-duhring/index.htm

If anyone thinks a study guide would be better so we follow some main points, be free to post it or suggest it. I'm not a fan of structured studies because then I read the text with a certain goal in mind instead of understanding it.
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 No.20215

V Time and Space
Duhring argues in favor of a immovable mover. Engels retorts. We can imagine infinity going one way, says Duhring, say from this point in time, but this point in time presupposes by the same logic an infinite sequence of past times before it. Such a thing is impossible, claims Duhring, hence there must've been some point when history started. Kant already showed that you can argue for and against the existence of infinity from 'common knowledge', so the contradiction within infinity as a concept is something that you have to accept, as Hegel does.

<"Thesis: The world has a beginning in time, and with regard to space is also limited. — Proof: For if it is assumed that the world has no beginning in time, then an eternity must have elapsed up to every given point of time, and consequently an infinite series of successive states of things must have passed away in the world. The infinity of a series, however, consists precisely in this, that it can never be completed by means of a successive synthesis. Hence an infinite elapsed series of worlds is impossible, and consequently a beginning of the world is a necessary condition of its existence. And this was the first thing to be proved. — With regard to the second, if the opposite is again assumed, then the world must be an infinite given total of co-existent things. Now we cannot conceive the dimensions of a quantum, which is not given within certain limits of an intuition, in any other way than by means of the synthesis of its parts, and can conceive the total of such a quantum only by means of a completed synthesis, or by the repeated addition of a unit to itself. Accordingly, to conceive the world, which fills all spaces, as a whole, the successive synthesis of the parts of an infinite world would have to be looked upon as completed; that is, an infinite time would have to be regarded as elapsed in the enumeration of all co-existing things. This is impossible. For this reason an infinite aggregate of actual things cannot be regarded as a given whole nor, therefore, as given at the same time. Hence it follows that the world is not infinite, as regards extension in space, but enclosed in limits. And this was the second thing" (to be proved).

>These sentences are copied word for word from a well-known book which first appeared in 1781 and is called: Kritik der reinen Vernunft by Immanuel Kant, where all and sunPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.20216

Thank you

 No.20217

VII&VIII Organic world
NB I think that every socialist should read some natural philosophy. Darwin is on my reading list since a long time, but I've been reading Haeckel recently now and then and it's a nice break to have philosophy grounded somewhat in science rather than v.v. i.e. becoming idealist. The modern theory of revolution differs from its Darwinian beginnings

Duhring straw-mans Darwin would be the summary of the chapter. I'm extracting some interesting paragraphs, not much else, since most of what Engels argues for is standard biology in most high schools already (I hope so…)

On Darwin:
>Darwin brought back from his scientific travels the view that plant and animal species are not constant but subject to variation. In order to follow up this idea after his return home there was no better field available than that of the breeding of animals and plants. It is precisely in this field that England is the classical country; the achievements of other countries, for example Germany, fall far short of what England has achieved in this connection. Moreover, most of these successes have been won during the last hundred years, so that there is very little difficulty in establishing the facts. Darwin found that this breeding produced artificially, among animals and plants of the same species, differences greater than those found in what are generally recognised as different species. Thus was established on the one hand the variability of species up to a certain point, and on the other the possibility of a common ancestry for organisms with different specific characteristics. Darwin then investigated whether there were not possibly causes in nature which — without the conscious intention of the breeder — would nevertheless in the long run produce in living organisms changes similar to those produced by artificial selection. He discovered these causes in the disproportion between the immense number of germs [in the original Keime, ‘shoots’,‘embryos’] created by nature and the insignificant number of organisms which actually attain maturity. But as each germ strives to develop, there necessarily arises a struggle for existence which manifests itself not merely as direct bodily combat or devouring, but also as a struggle for space and light, even in the case of plants. And it is evident that in this struggle those individuals which have some individual peculiarity,Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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That's a wrap for these chapters. Main points: contra metaphysics in natural sciences and mathematics. Introduction deals with a materialistic and historic analysis of development of scientific socialism. I know I write comments or expositions rarely but this is mostly because the work is quite understandable. I only sometimes write what I had thought during the time of reading. Paragraphs are quoted because they have to be. Alright see you tomorrow hopefully! Good night anons.

 No.20226

>>20218
Tankyoo :)



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 No.20622[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Why must've the Universe had a beginning? Why couldn't it have just been? Matter in motion since forever, always changing - as Heraclitus, Descartes, Engels, Lenin and other materialist philosophers postulated. Makes more sense than anything else.
>doesn't fall into the trap of an immovable mover
>doesn't fall into the trap of making matter out to be immutable since it is always changing
>removes the "I" from the equation, where consciousness just becomes another form matter in motion (electricity in our brains)
Why do the professional philosophers insist on arguing about idealistic nonsense when the two simple axioms
>matter always existed
>matter was always in motion
Solve all philosophical problems and leave only their practical solutions - i.e. the natural and social sciences, something tangible with results, to be studied? Is it because if the theory starts requiring practice, they lose their cushy jobs and pseudo-intellectuals on this board who jack off on structuralism, post-Marxism &c. would have to start doing manual labor to prove their points?
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If u extrapolate from the movement of the stars away from each other, you can make an educated guess that they were all much closer to each other in the past. Further evidence suggests that all matter was concentrated in a single point at a time.

Time, however, is not a constant basis. Einstein theorized, and it has been shown by many experiments and observations, that time is a property of space. We can determine from Einstein's theories that time "slows down" as mass and energy increases. This means that as we approach singularity of all matter into a single point, time passes infinitely slowly (does not move). This is why the universe can't go "before" the big bang, and must have a starting point. This is the point at which dialectical tells us comrade Stalin created the universe.

 No.20825

Also apologies for my English

 No.20826

>>20823
Mainlanders vs anglos

 No.20827

>>20823
Yeah that image proves my point



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 No.20059[Reply]

Greetings, comrades.

Some of you may already be aware of our work. We began our project since September 2020, we are almost 3 years old, and we've been expanding our work since then. As a celebration of ProleWiki, we are beginning a recruitment campaign to attract Marxists-Leninists interested in improving our work.

We have enough money to keep us going for two more years, so we're not currently interested in donations. What we really want is people who study Marxism-Leninism and are interested in making their knowledge more accessible to the general public.

The current articles available is a reflection of our current set of editors' knowledge. It is bound to improve over time while we internally debate about many subjects and increase in number of editors. We currently have editors from all over the world, United States, Brazil, Mexico, Spain, Denmark, Germany, and many other countries.

If you see anything wrong with our articles, the best thing you can do is join us so you can correct them. What are you waiting for? Join us!

https://prolewiki.org/
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 No.20072

>>20066
>The final implication of the argument is that this creates a labor aristocracy out of high paid workers in the 1st world that compromises with the capitalist class to extrapolate more value than they produce (reaping the benefits of the exploitation of others, especially those of the 3rd world). This labor aristocracy is marked by the higher end of middle class and up workers within a given first world country.
That's the point of the article. They should probably put it at the top, remove all the algebra, and rename the article. Hey, maybe I should be the main editor? 🤔

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The mental model in the prolewiki article about unequal exchange is that profit margins are just something the capitalist slaps on top of costs, which is the opposite of what Marx argued. See pic.

 No.20149

I recommend that for Articles e.g. the one on Unequal Exchange.

Add a section of Key Theorists or Authors or Related peoples, key and relevant works in a further reading list.

 No.20154

>>20149
They could also have a list of critics and put Marx in there.

 No.20206

Some competition or even source for copypaste for you
>>>/leftypol/1574396

https://wiki.leftypol.org/



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 No.12939[Reply]

I started being interested in eastern spirituality in general since i started training physical yoga last year. It changed my life i would say, i stopped feeling any physical discomfort caused by sedentary lifestyle and many times at the end practice, laying down on floor in "corpse pose" i felt something approaching a bliss, my mood also seems significantly lifted, i no longer give a fuck, even tho my material situation has not changed much.
This in turn caused me to get interested in eastern philosophy itself, i started reading Yoga Sutras, translation by Swami Satchenada (most popular translation from sanskrit i think, this guy was pretty famous with american hippies back in 60s).
Many of Satchenada commentaries are pretty interesting, they are modern and straight-forward, for example there are explamples including driving cars or going to the mall, there are also fragments that made me ask, is this guy reactionary? Can i reconcile at all my marxist tendencies with my interest in eastern philosophy, or are those things contradictory? All i know there is some one movement that says "actually buddhism and marxism has lot in common", are there more?
Here is the quote i am talking about:

"Suppose some people drive up in a big car, park in front of a huge palatial home and get out. Some other people are standing on the pavement in the hot sun getting tired. How many of those people will be happy? Not many. They will be saying, “See that big car? Those people are sucking the blood of the laborers.” We come across people like that; they are always jealous. When a person gets name, fame or high position, they try to criticize that person. “Oh, don’t you know, that person’s brother is so-and-so. Some strings must have been pulled.” They will never admit that the person might have gone up by his or her own merit. By that jealousy, you will not disturb the other person, but you disturb your own serenity. Those people simply got out of the car and walked into the house, but you are burning up inside. Instead, think, “Oh, such fortunate people. If everyone was like that how happy the world would be. May God bless everybody to have such comfort. I will also get that one day.” Make those people your friends. That response is missed in many cases, not only between individuals but even among nations. When some nation is prospering, the neighboring country is jealous of it and wants to ruin its economy. So we should always have the key of friendlinPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.18491

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>is doing stretches and clearing your mind reactionary
Just because it's old doesn't mean it's bad.

 No.18492

>>18491
Buddhism is a world religion, not merely an exercising routine

 No.20201

>>12939

I've had my share of being influenced and affected by this in the media I've consumed as well, particularly among books on lucid dreaming.
I think the best way to approach this is to understand when and why this literature can be a bit goofy, and that it's worth remembering that not everyone who spreads useful information is gracefully intelligent.
Are people in expensive cars and houses who attribute all of their riches to themselves and who manage to somehow forget to use their apparent strengths to help bring everyone else along truly fortunate? Or do you see more fortune in, for example, a couple that you graduated high school with who got married, and have an exemplary love story to share, and whose intelligence is used not just to accumulate material wealth for themselves, but also to light the way for others amidst dark times?
Hard for me to imagine someone hating good consoomers out of jealousy rather than seeing the threat their behavior presents to their community.
Hope my post helps kek

 No.20202

>>18492
yeah but that's what yoga is

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 No.20185[Reply]

Why aren't you a chaos marxist?
https://chaosmarxism.neocities.org/
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 No.20190

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 No.20191

because it seems dumb. hope youre having fun though

 No.20193

>>20192
not nice to trigger OP's schizophrenia like that

 No.20194

>>20185
>Chaos marxist
Not going to be successful. Have you tried stock investing?

 No.20195

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Bookmarked, but not really sure what I would change of my praxis as is with this idea. Maybe after a good meal.



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 No.20175[Reply]

"The blame for this falls solely upon the wretched conditions in Germany, in consequence of which cobweb-spinning eclectic flea-crackers had taken possession of the chairs of philosophy-"

What the fuck is a flea-cracker?

 No.20176

apparently it means someone that concerns themselves with petty details, cracks at tiny fleas
it's also described as a synonym of pettifogger, which means "an inferior legal practitioner, especially one who deals with petty cases or employs dubious practices" here:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1908/mec/four2.htm third paragraph



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 No.8045[Reply]

Thread for History of Ancient China up until the end of the Chinese Empire
Discuss History, Mythology, Archeology, Socio-Economics, Politics and Culture of Ancient China. This includes Tibet, Korea and Mongolia.
Leftypedia >>3780 requires an article on Ancient China, all that is covered is the current People's Republic

Important Topics
>Mythology and Legends and their Modern Cultural Impacts
A society that arose at the beginning of human civilization, China's culture is enormous and diverse. Legends and mythology of China such as Fa Mulan and Journey to the West are just prominent examples of legends that influenced others across the globe. Recommend and discuss literature or myths on this.

>Eastern Philosophy, Culture and Religion

The East, especially China developed several unique religions and philosophies utterly separate from the primarily Greco-Roman and Judeo-Christian philosophies of Western and Central Europe as well as the Middle East. The 3 primary Chinese philosophies are Confucianism, Taoism and Buddhism. Discuss the merits of these.

>Military Conflicts and Everyday Life in Ancient China

Society in China developed on its own and so it had much different ways of life. China is also known for having massive conflicts, some of the first to have millions of men fight at a time. China is known for it's generals such as author of "The Art of War"* Sun Tzu, Han Xing and CaoCao.
*https://sites.ualberta.ca/~enoch/Readings/The_Art_Of_War.pdf

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 No.12631

>>12630
I'm not some Bourgeois elitist, after all the Divide between mental and physical labor is something socialist states have tried to overcome. But I mean come on, when you're only evidences is it looks hard to do it and not in depth archaeological and historical research you just sound retarded. Debord has some interests works which has contributed to theory but this just a schizo position to take.

 No.19898

>>8045
>Leftypedia requires an article on Ancient China, all that is covered is the current People's Republic
Do you want a page titled "Ancient China" or "History of China"? The latter would better include the period covered in your OP i.e. Xia era to Qing Revolutionary period.

 No.20151

>>19898
OP here, back from being away; I would say the latter is pretty accurate and useful name, if you make it, go ahead and link it comr8.

 No.20157

>>8045
>Legends and mythology of China such as Fa Mulan and Journey to the West are just prominent examples of legends that influenced others across the globe.
Journey to the West is a novel. It's contemporary with Shakespeare's work. Hua Mulan is comparable to Arthurian legends in time period and legendary status.

 No.20167

>>20157
>Journey to the West is a novel.
A novel based on combined works and earlier stories.
>Hua Mulan is comparable to Arthurian legends in time period and legendary status.
Yes, that is what I'm saying.


I'd also like to mention Strange Tales from a Chinese Studio



 No.20162[Reply]

Thoughts on this open-source US history textbook?
https://www.americanyawp.com/text/16-capital-and-labor/

>The socialist movement drew from a diverse constituency. Party membership was open to all regardless of race, gender, class, ethnicity, or religion. Many prominent Americans, such as Helen Keller, Upton Sinclair, and Jack London, became socialists. They were joined by masses of American laborers from across the United States: factory workers, miners, railroad builders, tenant farmers, and small farmers all united under the red flag of socialism. Many united with labor leader William D. “Big Bill” Haywood and other radicals in 1905 to form the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW), the “Wobblies,” a radical and confrontational union that welcomed all workers, regardless of race or gender.32 Others turned to politics.


>The Socialist Party of America (SPA), founded in 1901, carried on the American third-party political tradition. Socialist mayors were elected in thirty-three cities and towns, from Berkeley, California, to Schenectady, New York, and two socialists—Victor Berger from Wisconsin and Meyer London from New York—won congressional seats. All told, over one thousand socialist candidates won various American political offices. Julius A. Wayland, editor of the socialist newspaper Appeal to Reason, proclaimed that “socialism is coming. It’s coming like a prairie fire and nothing can stop it . . . you can feel it in the air.”33 By 1913 there were 150,000 members of the Socialist Party and, in 1912, Eugene V. Debs, the Indiana-born Socialist Party candidate for president, received almost one million votes, or 6 percent of the total.34


>Over the following years, however, the embrace of many socialist policies by progressive reformers, internal ideological and tactical disagreements, a failure to dissuade most Americans of the perceived incompatibility between socialism and American values, and, especially, government oppression and censorship, particularly during and after World War I, ultimately sank the party. Like the Populists, however, socialists had tapped into a deep well of discontent, and their energy and organizing filtered out into American culture and American politics.

 No.20163

Pretty fair for a brief summary, they do mention government oppression and censorship as factors. Could be made more accurate by expanding upon it.



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