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Metal Gear series Anonymous Comrade 11/05/2019 (Tue) 23:35:29 No. 2922
Are the MGS games based and REDpilled and Kojima /ourguy/?
I know Peace Walker placed Che and the Sandinistas in a positive light but 3 and 5 had some very red scare opinions on the USSR
>>2925 I wish they made a remake or a novelization. The story of Gindra, its colonization, the ethnic groups and such seems really interesting.
Just trying to identify the variations and leitmotifs for Snake in TPP. "V Has Come To" (normal theme) & "Behind The Mirror" (mirror punch/truth/"demon" theme) for Venom and also the motif for the real Big Boss most notably used in the motorbike scene. Using this playlist btw: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwbD-t-58o7lbz0KrrKA89Erwfy0sXUIU >Venom - Quiet's Arrival [BTM at 0:55 and later half from 2:16.] >The Last Road - OKB Zero [BB at 1:01 leads to VHCT at 1:16. Ends with BTM at 2:56 after Sins Of The Father piano.] >The Other Shadow - Motorbike Scene [I'd say BB starts at 1:10. The prominent 3-note climax at 1:25. Other renditions of this motif usually has a simpler 4-note build up before the climax you can hear in The Last Road or the Ground Zeroes alert with Paz.] >Behind The Mirror - Truth Theme [Obviously, BTM from 1:28.] >Disembark [VHCT from 0:41 onwards.] >Regret And Acceptance [Interesting unused track. Parts of The Other Shadow (minus BB motif) are present in the first half. Turns into BTM from 2:31 with an unusually heroic climax.] >Mother Base [VHCT at 0:24, sneaky 3-note BB at 0:49 followed by BTM at 0:56 and another VHCT at 1:26. Diamond Dogs motif around the later half.] >Let The Legend Come Back To Life [VHCT at 0:44 and 2:29. Maybe just me, but the four notes of VHCT coupled with the swell at the end sounds similar to the full BB motif.] >Fight For The Future [VHCT at 1:00. Possible sneaky 3-note BB from 1:44 to 1:49? Ends with VHCT.] That's all for today.
>>2933 >is basically a utopian socialism take on how the world should be For one niche class, the mercenary, as long as his band gets to play war games the rest of world can be sunk into degeneracy and exploitation. Same mentality as a porkie.
>>2954 Not precisely, Outer Heavan is just the singular, niche part of the Boss' philosophy he interpreted, and it's not exactly a utopia for the soldiers as much as it is both a home for soldiers disillusioned from their countries of origin, and generally acts as an anti-imperialist force in the world. Outer Heaven is a part of a bigger plan of opposing the Patriots, and eventually BB does realize the totality of the Boss' will, but that happens right as BB and the Patriots mutually destroy each other. If Outer Heaven didn't get destroyed, BB was probably angling to become a major geo-political force in the world to try and curtail the Patriot's influence and stop them from creating the MIC of that universe and prevent the implementation of things like the nanomachines son in every soldier. Fighting the Patriots was basically the express goal of BB post-Peace Walker, and as MG1 and 2 showed he wanted to do so on a global level.
>>2953 Second batch. >Factory Grounds - Nzo Ya Badiabulu [VHCT at 0:03 with a delay between the 2nd and 3rd note. Another at 0:45. Ignoring the horn, 1:09 to 1:24 might also be.] >Shabani's Fate [VHCT at 0:18.] >Vengeance - Skull Face Death [3-note VHCT at 0:12. Extended BTM at around 1:04 to 1:22. VHCT again at 1:49 but gets interrupted.] >Target Area Infiltration Africa [Seems to have VHCT scattered around. 4-note at 0:46 which has the same darker tone of Factory Grounds and Shabani's Fate so I'm wondering if they are a different motif after all. However, 1:40 sounds like the first 2 notes of the VHCT motif. The two 3-notes that follow it might also be from VHCT (listen after first three notes) but they also sound like the six notes before the full BB motif you hear in The Last Road. Related?] >Concerning The Infection - Wolbachia [The track seems to be based on VHCT. I think 0:32 and 1:12 is the ticking clock segment of VHCT before the climax. 2:01 sounds like BTM.] >A silent Vow - Quiet Navajo speech [3:29 - 3:45 VHCT?] >Deterrence - Nuclear DisarmamentEnding [1:29 - 1:36 VHCT??] >Outbreak [BTM at 0:55 and 1:35. 2:14 is same as Concerning The Infection so VHCT if I'm right.] >Ecaping The Villa - Rescue Code Talker [4:40 VHCT??? Also appeared at 1:48 but gets drowned out by other sounds.]
>>2925 I've heard that guy wrote the best parts in the series or something.
>wow big boss is a dick for being fine with placing an entire hospital under fire and turning the dude who saved his life into a mind-clone puppet of himself just to cover his ass >it's fine tho >how? >ocelot said it's what he would've wanted
>>2922 I only played MGS2. It had a lot of good points. The series is basically Rambo: the video game, and is very critical of the military industrial complex, war, militarism, fascism, "the deep state," etc. MGS2 goes off the deep end with a lot of conspiracy theories and "how do I know what I know is real." But it really predicted the post-truth presidency and was prophetic in a lot of respects. It also had some good commentary on when Bush stole the election from Al Gore, and criticism of the sham that is America's "democracy." MGS3 was critical of the CIA and followed similar lines. MGS4 criticized America's PMCs and involvement in intervening in places like Iraq. MGS5 was an unpolished disaster and destroyed the developer.
>>2938 Not only do I not have a PS4, but the game looks extraordinarily boring in the gameplay clips I've seen. It just makes me want to go hiking IRL, because that would be a hell of a lot more fun and I might see animals for real. Am I missing anything?
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Kojima has reportedly read authors such as Mishima and works like Coin Locker Babies. He is also said to have received copies of works by P.W. Singer who is the author of Corporate Warriors which is a work on PMCs. It's like MGS4 foretold the atmosphere in the Middle East after the Arab Spring just a few years before it. https://medium.com/@Brett_Fujioka/the-literary-source-material-for-metal-gear-solid-5ae96314cf73
>>2922 >11/05/2019 LOL this thread is old
>>3013 I bamped it on /hobby/ before it was moved over here shortly afterwards. I wanted to call attention to the influences that hadn't been mentioned from the likes of literature and the sort.
Kojima is a genius unparalleled
>>3027 Based Metal-Gear anon
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>>2953 Correction! >The Other Shadow - Motorbike Scene [You can actually hear the build-up right before the climax so BB is 1:20 - 1:29.] Addition! >Occupying Forces [1:16 - 1:34 is the same part/variation of VHCT heard in Concerning The Infection and Outbreak.] >>2956 Third batch. >Facing A New Dawn [0:56 sounds like VHCT before developing into something else.] >Kill Them All [Builds up to BTM at 2:56.] >Demon - Venom Snake Hallway's Scene [BTM all the way.] >9 Years - TPP Trailer in GZ Ending [VHCT at 0:37 and 1:08.] >Paz Is Dead [Parts of BB throughout. I think it's clear at 0:08, 0:57 - 1:04 and 2:20 - 2:42.] >Is This Cipher [The VHCT var. again at 0:29.]
>>2945 >and absolutely no ability to tell the difference between the two Which is what gives him his unique charm. I know it sounds like I'm saying "it's bad on purpose!" or something, but MGS wouldn't be what it is if Kojima wasn't kind of batshit and tone-deaf. Besides, as a game designer instead of a writer he is genuinely very talented. He thinks up interesting gimmicks and secrets, uses level design to complement the story without having the player interact directly with the plot, fills the game with details, etc. Part of what makes MGS so cool is little things like how items or environmental details have unexpected uses in specific situations and you're intended to figure them out on your own by thinking about what would be realistic in the scenario. Or how you can defeat The End in MGS3 by just waiting for him to die of natural causes. They're small one-time features but they really elevate the series and turn it into something special.
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>>4123 Also whoops that post is from eight months ago >>2962 Interesting stuff, I'll check some of this out. Coin Locker Babies sounds like my kind of book.
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>>4627 >that article And the idiocy continues
>>4627 This actually has been tested by a recent study that looked at particle aerosolization in coughing vs various speech volumes. They used multiple common languages including English and found no significant difference between them. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-38808-z
>>4629 >>4627 This is like that joke from the USSR about capitalism, wherein first they'll make you buy water, then buy the right to talk and then buy the right to breath clean air. It's the Lorax movie all over again, except with serious social consequences.
Metal Gear used to be the hypest shit along with Halo and Mass Effect, yet is being rapidly forgotten... why is that?
>>5141 You're getting old and they stopped making games in those series. The average zoomer looks at metal gear like a boomer relic they're dissociated from.
>>5141 >why is that? Kojima got fired in the middle of the development of MGS5 and then Metal Gear was turned into a pachinko.
>>5141 a mix of stealth-action generally being on the decline plus the lead who gave it soul (and retardation) in Kojima has been booted by Konami.
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Should I play Metal Gear Rising?
>>5167 Yes, but not because it has MG in the title, but because it's a super fun, high-quality curayzee Platinum Studios action game and it has the hypest music. Also you will finally be able to appreciate Armstrong memes.
>>5167 >>5324 The game is worth playing because of Kojima's insane obsession with making Raiden very cool and not at all gay alone
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>>5167 It's great for the memes, Jack.
>>5327 Kojima didn't work on MGR That's why it is actually a good game
>>5354 gasp
>>5354 Top kek
>>5354 I think Kojima still wrote the plot and character interactions.
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>>2942 never be game over
>>5434 Post your favorite conspiracy theories
>>5410 he didnt directly write it but I think the writing team consulted him on a few things to make the game as lore friendly as possible
Metallic Archea are literally real. Google bacterial nanowires.
anticommunist shite
>>2922 if you or any other anons here played mgs2, you'd realize that you all are hopelessly brainwashed
>>7052 isn't everybody
>>7052 Are you saying I should construct my thinking about the world and myself around an interactive toy
>>7103 Hey why not, those great charming people down on /v/ did it.
>>3149 >I love Che! >and hate Guantanamo Bay! >anyway, here's why invasion of Afghanistan was bad, and let's do missions for the CIA
A lot of the anti-nuclear stuff in mgs1 did not age particularly well going back to it. Besides the allegory with metal gear most of it was centered on hysterical environmentalist concerns.
>>7192 I mean, big boss at that point is an amoral ancap just selling wetwork services to whoever so I don't think that necessarily reflects kojimmy's thoughts on the matter.
>>7192 To be fair, BB would later turn into the antagonist
>>7461 Because he fought unita?
>>2925 Ghost Babel is said to have the most mature story with a hard left message and the guy who wrote the story went missing.


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