>The idea is that once everybody is working and living together as a class-conscious proletariat, notions of racism will simply wither away. We are materialists, we believe that the material world, our experiences of the physical reality, shape our ideas, and not the other way around. The way to make people not racist is not to convince them with some dank arguments, but to convince them with experience. Most racists rarely interact with the races they hate, except in passing or as participants in a market exchange, but never as people. Racists and the people they hate have more in common than not, and that's a fact. You can show people all the graphs you want, but until they actually engage with the others, no progress can be made.
>This means that no progress towards anti-racism can be made anywhere where only ideas are exchanged, like an imageboard. Discussion of the topic only lends importance to it and amplifies liberal and racist voices, while muting leftist voices, because both liberals and racists are against leftists. Having idpol discussion on bunkerchan would turn this place into a battleground between two sides we don't like. It makes no sense.
>As an aside, liberals and anti-racists have adopted the same categories racists use, but they try to use them "in a good way". Shit tactic because if you're trying to argue against someone's position, don't accept their wrong premises and then argue against the conclusion. The premises were literally designed to support their racist conclusion. It's a losing battle.
Im very confused as to what this post means by "liberals and anti-racists have adopted the same categories racists use, but they try to use them "in a good way"? Do you think that calls for affirmative action are based on the idea of an inherent superiority of minority groups? That is the "premise" of racists, and I don't see how arguing in favor or affirmative action is in any way connected to this?
Like, calls for reparations and affirmative action are based on the concrete fact that the status quo is structurally organised against marginalized and racialized populations, and as such, these groups need to be emphasised in the early periods of socialist construction, which has nothing to do with anything concerning the "premises" of racists?
If by "adopting the same categories racists use" you mean like, acknowledging that race matters, I dont know what to say. Just because something is a social construct (and, may I remind you, class is a "social construct" as well) doesnt mean that it doesn't have material and lives effects, or that it doesn't provide a basis for solidarity through shared struggle
Ironically, in claiming that racism is just because "people dont understand each other"/the solution to racism is just "convincing people that they are similar to those they hate" or whatever, you are disregarding materialist analysis of the actual basis of race and racism, as a superstructural element of colonial oppression
>liberals and anti-racists have adopted the same categories racists use
>anti racism is the real racism
I just cant even,