>>16252 Why does it matter which is the "best" version? You're not going to notice the difference between the best and the second best or the third or fourth for that matter on your computer monitor or even on a nice TV for that matter, unless you stop and look for differences The film is made to look like documentary and news footage shot on cheap black and white film stock, the Criterion collection version was approved by the DP before release, just get that one and watch the fucking thing

>>16254 I wasn't looking for differences at first, but the Criterion version clearly has more film grain, is much brighter overall and has muffled audio. I noticed all of this within the first 20 or so minutes of viewing. I came across a copy sourced from the 2016 remaster, and was just curious if anyone's seen it to compare. It's generally darker, has better audio, and includes what appears to be a new translation.

Недавно я смотрел обзор на фильм 'Завод' от Быкого, и там препомнили работы Балабаного. От туда я вспомнил "Груз 200", пративнейший фильм и продукт своего времени. Многий кино-обзоршики, дейтили и даже 'народ' в Россий хвалят этот фильм за то чего он показывает "правду" в её 'идеи'. Лично я ненавижу это мразотное кино; после просмотра "Груз 200" мне стало физически тошно. Было противно и обидно видеть пустой фильм о пустой жизни пустых людей. "Груз 200" это анти-советский гротеск как *"Чистилище" Невзорова, 10 лет ранние; враньё и искажение времени и нравов. Копипаста Фолкнера, без указания его в сценарии, приврошёную в бредовую агитку в стиле "совок-кошмар". К примеру дата 1984г. это открыто ссылка на Орвелла и его дистопию. Любители обясняют вот как: "Скрытый" смысл фильма. Мать "мента" - старая погибающая форма СССР; "Мент", который не дает окончательно спиться матери - исполнительная власть погибающего государства; Молодая девушка, Анжелика - изнасилованная алкоголем (бутылкой) молодая Россия. Будущая Россия, (сам Балабанов это сказал актрисе на Кинотавре, "А ты знаешь что ты сыграла Россию?"; Погибший парень в Афгане - "мертвая" армия, которой так грозилась Анжелика (Россия). Образ восставшего народа - в конце когда жена расстрелянного самогонщика (образ простого народа, грезящим о светлом будущем, но ничего для этого не делающим) оставила ее с трупами - образ 90х, где Россия осталась с мертвой армией и убитым госаппаратом, а разваленный СССР (мать мента) абстрагировался от происходящего в соседней комнате (Аналогия с неуважаемой госпожой Савицкой - сидящей у Гордона в программе с двумя медалями ГСС. Она прям идеально присутствует в передаче как собирательный образ Советской Коммунистки слепо верующей в то, что в СССР все было хорошо). Ну и в финале сцена с двумя парнями это образ олигархов и разворовывания страны (Задел на то, что Россию ожидает после распада СССР). Родители, каждого из героев, символизируют предыдущие поколения кажlого из классов населения (Элиты, Быдла, Интелегенции) https://yusev-alexei.livejournal.com/15802.html Это просто хуета пзевдо-интеллегентов и разглядеть в этой картине 'правдивый' обшей образ СССР по-моему способны только люди с нездоровой фантазией, или анти-совечики.Точно такие же 'наблюдение' можно привязать к любой чернухе как Левияфан да и не только. Но почему-то то кино не любят... на верно потому что не достаточно графена. Да и что за образы? Сыграла Россию тут блять. Это уместно в 1994, но не 1984. Да и если я вижу по другому? Мнение Балабонава это всего лишь мнение которое ни есть истина. Фильм ужасная смесь психбольного восприятия и шизиков, если от этого фильма увеличества колличество маньяков и убийств реальных, кому вы потом будете рассказыват об искусстве? Высоцкий говорил, что после показа "Места встречи" уровень преступности в стране снизился. Так вот - после показа "Груз 200" преступность могло только взлететь. Чему этот фильм дал понять или научил? Что люди бывают уродами или что психи прячутса в социуме? Спасибо это и так любой взрослый знает. Что 80-90ии это был ужас? И так все знают кроме детей, а такое детям не покажешь. Как мы видем с Братом, Улица Разбитых Фонарей и другим кино, можно донести ужас и сатиру без такого разврата. Говорят, что картины художника - это его внутренний мир. Вот такой и есть внутренний образ Балабанова - злость, мясо и изврашение что напоменают Илью Деревянко и его разчленёнку. С точки зрения гиперреализма маниячелы какогото деревенского, фильм хорош, но это не делает его художеством. Кроме как через чернуху у нас умные мысли уже никак не показать? По другому не доходит до любителей правда-матушка? "Собачье сердце" или "Каждому Свой Ад (1977)" невеселие, есть о чем подумать. Но что-то я не помню, чтобы для передачи проблем того времени или трагедий ситуаций кого-то там с подробностями убивали, насиловали или калечили. Да блин не давный сериал "Вавилон Берлин" велеколепно показывает ужас Веймарской Германий, но без такой пошлости как Балабанов. Обясняют советские люди https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFfqxRZRicI 18:15 - 19:06 Не соответсвует реалиям большой частью советского обшество 28:32 - 29:05 Плохо сыграно потому что образы просто одно-типное быдло играют чяше всего 30:30 - 31:21 Картина плоская как фотография потому что персонажи плоский 21:50 - 22:42 Не чего оно не улучшает Юрий Лоза, кого песня Плот играет в фильме хорошо сказал ещё, "Когда мне позвонил Балабанов, то сказал, что «хочет снять фильм о том времени». Я дал свою песню, а он снял фильм про маньяка. Такого придурка можно найти в любом времени и любой стране, ведь количество шизоидов неизменно в процентном отношении во все времена и во всем мире" https://kino.rambler.ru/other/41648133-yuriy-loza-esli-by-ya-znal-chto-zadumal-balabanov-ne-otdal-by-plot/?updated https://archive.is/CpcW4 Критик Наталья Сиривля отмечала: хотя фильм позиционировался как основанный на реальных событиях, многие его сюжетные ходы повторяют фабулу романа Уильяма Фолкнера «Святилище» https://magazines.gorky.media/novyi_mi/2007/9/kinoobozrenie-natali-sirivli-35.html https://archive.vn/ehalD Помимо сказанного двумя комментариями выше, добавлю: отдельно сцены до приезда жениха из Афгана вроде бы воспринимаются как нечто достоверное, но и тогда - трудно представить, чтобы вот так вот разом сошлись все звёзды и воплотился именно такой сценарий. Кроме того, не совсем понятно, что он хотел сказать - условно, показал диарею, но не показал способы лечения. В этом смысле фильм - сюрреалистская безделица. Отдельный счёт можно выставить и за Алексея Полуяна - ведь после этой роли узнававшие его зрители били на улице. То есть за психопатию Балабанова расплачивался игравший у него актёр, хотя играть такого персонажа, в общем-то, надо иметь некоторое мужество. Какой можно зделать вывод 1) Кино это, даже в вакууме некчёму. Оно просто показывает ужас, но не фантастический или интересный а просто обыденость; человеческие зверства в какой то дыре: то чего можно найти в любой стране, и в любое время. 2) Это кино НЕ МОЖЕТ быть воспринять в вакууме, так как он по сюжету и деталям связано с (карикатурой) СССР и преподносит символику об этом времени. К тому же Балабанов сам обявил что "Я не про Москву снимаю или про **Петербург, это страшная, Советская(!!!!) провинцая". *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76hQdfjtkoU **Иронично что в 90ие Питер был таким страшным местом, что это смешно слышать такий фразы. Манияки и душегубы? Там люди каннибализмом занимались, а сегодняшние олигархи рулили открытые крименальные банды уркаганов и мафиози, грабя народ и управляли полиций. Такого в СССР с времён 20их и 40их не было. Даже в Казахастане и Узбекистане такого не было в Микро-районах. И какой на хер Питер? в 1984 был Ленинград!.

I didn't JUST watch this but i remembered it existed and decided i wanna tell people to watch it. It's got a great twist unlike many cliche movie plot twists. Obviously telling you anything about it would spoil the twist, which is the best part. >plot premise: a family gets haunted by an unknown individual/entity and poltergeist type shit happens around the house

Did anyone watched "I dont care if we go down on history as barbarians"? If you did, what are your thoughs? Does anyone knows where to torrent it

Anyone here on Karagarga? I lost my membership years ago due to inactivity, and I regret it every day. Most good films never end up on public trackers for some reason, even if they'd been nominees at major film festivals.

>>16566 Have you tried asking to get your account back on their IRC?

Just watched Mother! and I think I might have not gotten it at all. Like, the two readings of it that I have is either trying to portray the auteur artists as egomaniac pricks that they are, or that the film is about the unequal relationships of the domestic economy. But both of these readings feel just too simple somehow. Am I missing something?

Watched this like last week https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw1vQgVaYNQ It was an alright popcorn flick but the plot didn't make any sense. It was about an evil corporation that was selling pills that gave super powers to people. Their distro network was cartels and drug dealers. The evil corporation wanted to eventually sell them at cost so everyone could have super powers? It was like syndrom's ideology but even more ass backwards because all they did was make super drug cartels.

Best horror film I've seen in years https://youtu.be/aO4IktVcxyY 10/10 Fuck this shit

Watched this recently, not sure how I feel about it. Certainly a well made movie but how accurate is it?

>>16707 Continuing to go through Aronofsky's works. Watched Pi the other day. While its deffinetly very well made, I hate its message. Just more of the obscurantist tower of Babel tier shit about how man can never and should never grasp the universe. But as I said, its deffinetly well executed, especially the acompanying track. Today I watched Requiem for a Dream. Really fucking bad vibes right now. Honestly this might be one of the few if not the only foreign films that manage to reach the levels of grim that is my native Lithuanian literature. Like, from the first 10-20 minutes I realized that it is like watching a slow motion train crash. However, this doesn't make the film bad. I'd argue that this might very well be the single best anti-Amerikkka films out there, not because it shows the nations imperialist crimes, but the absolute horror that is the life of American citizens. Didn't really notice the cinematography much. Also the bait and switch with "spring" never coming after "winter" was really great, even if it contributed to the depression value.

I recently watched a 3 hour long german movie "Never Look Away" (2018) and it was really fucking amazing - it's about a german artist who is born in nazi Germany, then goes to school in east Germany, and graduates in west Germany. I am usually really picky with my movies, but I assure you this movie is fucking amazing. The reason it's so long isn't because it's super complex, but rather that this movie likes to take time to build up scenes, which I personally really enjoyed - lots of good camera work in there. https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/never_look_away A couple of films that have been on my mind lately: Cure by Kiyoshi Kurosawa. Brilliant use of atmosphere to build dread, both through how it uses the settings of each of the murders (it begins as a procedural about murders with the hallmarks of a serial killer, except that each is done by a different person who claims to not remember doing it) and through its deteriorating recurring settings. I discovered it a few years ago I think, and it might be my all time favorite now. Christ Stopped at Eboli by Francesco Rosi. I saw this one last year when the newly restored and uncut version was released in the US. I'm thinking about it because I'm mad about that version not getting a bluray or streaming release. It's a 4-hour Italian epic about a city doctor who gets sent to some far flung, backwards village by Mussolini's government because he's been hanging out with his communist friends too much. It's a fascinating and very comfy (even if occasionally horrifying) depiction of what life was like at that time, and it gives a very good diagnosis of how bourgeois small-town governments and elites form their self-serving aristocracy that holds the common people in contempt. Unfortunately like I mentioned it's hard to find but if a screening happens near you, I highly recommend dropping everything to see it.

Zapata! was made by a rabid anticommunist who sold people out willingly to the HUAC. Someone care to explain that one to me?

Just watched Love and Monsters and it was great. For a low-budget cheesy monster movie, it has good plot, fun characters, fairly good CGI and practical effects and a nice message. The monster designs are creative and really carry across the whole "mutant" idea, and reminds me of some other works of science fiction with similar premises. It's a shame it didn't go to theaters but what can you do. I won't go into the details of the good parts yet, because it's a new movie and I don't wanna spoil it for anyone until after they've had a chance to watch it. Paramount's own trailer description is the best nonspoiler summary, Seven years after the Monsterpocalypse, Joel Dawson (Dylan O’Brien), along with the rest of humanity, has been living underground ever since giant creatures took control of the land. After reconnecting over radio with his high school girlfriend Aimee (Jessica Henwick), who is now 80 miles away at a coastal colony, Joel begins to fall for her again. As Joel realizes that there’s nothing left for him underground, he decides against all logic to venture out to Aimee, despite the dangerous monsters that stand in his way. I enjoyed it the same way I enjoyed Pacific Rim or Zombieland and there's a lot of good stuff to find. It's available on fmovies.wtf (Have uBlock Origin and Popupblockers) and is plenty of fun to watch.

Just watched Battlefield Earth, what are our thoughts on the whole "so bad, it's good" phenomenon?

>>17785 I always enjoyed it. It is in essence a cheesy movie in the same way films like Predator or Independence day are. Some cool alien concepts, some idea of human struggle against impossible odds and some decent acting and effects with the gaps filled in with cheese and tropes.

>>9744 I just watched "Hereditary" after seeing Midsommar and my God what a good movie. The VVitch is okay too.

>>17803 What did you think of Midsommar?

Has anyone watched The Inner Circle? >The true story of Ivan Sanchin, the KGB officer who was Stalin's private film projectionist from 1939 until the dictator's death. Told from Sanchin's view, the sympathetic but tragically flawed hero maintains unwavering faith in his "Master" despite the arrest of his neighbors and his involvement with their daughter, his wife's affair with the chilling State Security chief Lavrentii Beria and her tragic decline, and the deadly political machinations within the Kremlin he witnesses firsthand. How is it? Also thoughts on East/West?

>>18270 god, posters looked so awful back then

This is the only place that I can admit but I'm about to watch all 5 of the scary movies as part of my halloween marathon

>>18285 Why are you ashamed? Those are great fun >>18281 >back then

Has anyone seen the Society of the Spectacle movie/documentary/video essay? Is it a good introduction before diving into the book?

Borat 2.It was funny, but I feel like it was a bit underwhelming: like the funniest stuff was all shock humour as opposed to something actually comedic. Also the satire felt a bit, weak? Like yes singing about giving Obama wuhan flu as a rally and people unironically liking it is funny, but like, it feels a bit weak compared to say what Eric Andre does.

I watched La Chinoise recently with a friend and it made me think, what films do y'all think should be required/recommended watching for socialists? For me Come and See is a must watch. Soy Cuba is also good.

I just watched Heavy Metal (1981) and frankly, the best best story is the Captain Stern trial, the cabby story is nice, but the love story is truly put with a shoehorn, it make me laugh how bad that was. The other stories are pretty meh to me.

>>18339 It's a drug-induced fantasy rotoscope animation, it wasn't meant to be anything than a set of short stories in an art-house experiment.

>>18296 It made me drop anarchism for Marxism.

>>6417 I watched this recently. Very good and I don't even like Tarkovsky that much.

Just watched The Lighthouse. Maybe not for everyone but I appreciated the pacing and Dafoe’s monologues. >>17814 pretty great/10, good portrayal of drugs and the 20-something generation. Good body horror at times. >>18296 It’s literally someone reading the book, just presented in a different sequence of chapters. Hopefully the footage helps illustrate the points. I’s also highly recommend Debord’s earlier films ‘Critique of Separation’ and ‘On the Passage of a Few Persons Through a Brief Unity of Time’ to get your brain in tune with his before jumping into SoTS, and you might like In Girum...’ (palindromic Latin title idr, made later in the 70s) >>18311 Kanchiviram and the docu Concerning Violence

>>18378 >The Lighthouse Definitely an acquired taste and a bit over artsy, but still quite interesting a film. Dafoe is always great with his characters and plays madmen well (similar to Christopher Walken and Anthony Hopkins). Red Cynic did a decent review of the film that really delved into the lore behind the film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjh8Kn2ZvSY

>>18378 thanks buddy

>>18413 The Lighthouse was a sequel to Flapjack. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8yEVxa5Nsg

Hot-Take: Cruel Intentions is a perfect encapsulation of American bourg narcissism and self-pity

Just watchined "Sweeny Todd" on Netflix. Great film, pretty based. >There's a hole in the world like a great black pit >And the vermin of the world inhabit it >And its morals aren't worth what a pig could spit >And it goes by the name of London >At the top of the hole sit a privileged few >Making mock of the vermin in the lower zoo >Turning beauty to filth and greed >I too have sailed the world and seen its wonders, >For the cruelty of men is as wondrous as Peru

currently watching trial of chicago 7 goddamn courts are such a sham when it comes to prosecuting leftists really makes you understand how pathetic and fake the state's freedom is

Not a "movie I watched", but movie related. What are you all thinking about Matrix 4? Asking because in all honesty I feel kinda afraid that it will ruin the original trilogy somehow. After watching the films again for those two review posts ITT I felt that the series had a really nice conclussion at the end of it and I would hate to see it messed with tbh.

>>19925 >Watching Sorkin libshit butchery of a real story film Very cringe

>>19975 It's best to watch Matrix 4 as it's own thing. It's definitely not very fitting with the rest of the trilogy, but it's still a fun movie. >>18429 Nuclear truth

I finally watched the movie that started all. I have no idea why it's not mentioned more often in critics circle also mystery of why autistic entities tend to gitta go fast contiunes

>>19978 ???? Matrix 4 is out???? Damn. Gonna watch it tommorow. Just watched the 3 extended LOTR movies. Took a week to get through them. Awesome movies.

>>20057 Watching the LOTR trilogy has been kind of a Christmas tradition for me the last couple of years. It just goes so well with this time of year for some reason. And they are still to this day may favourite movies ever. Btw, watch the behind the scenes documetaries next. They are honestly just as good as the movies.

>>20057 >>19978 It's not out I think. I asked because it is supposed to come out in 2021.

>>19975 The original films were dumb to begin with. Simulation should have been physical and not mental, with no "true authentic reality" to escape to or from. Something like augmented reality, smart homes, smart cities, etc. All that was already discussed in the 90s. Would have been a way better film about the actual world, as well as a metaphor for ideology. Then all the fantasy stuff about flying and hacking reality would make the film actually eccentric. There's nothing special about flying in your dreams if dreams are still separate from reality. The only good part was that the dream was collective. But it's just a remake of Plato's cave, basically. But the 4th part will surely be straight up retarded. Nostalgic references mixed with radical idpol. Or maybe they'll add a twist where the good (trans)guys now team with (social media) architects to defend the simulation against the evil magatards attacking from reality, probably with some russian villain thrown in for good measure.

>>20169 Kek don’t think it’ll be all that shit Tho odds are the red pill will become HRT

I hate Midsommar Leftists may look at the message of the movie as some critique of soulless capitalist society but it's just a whiny movie about the importance of muh culture and traditions and how modern society bad because it's secular I fucking hate that reactionary mindset and thus want to beat up the maker of this crap movie

>>20181 Kek, I predicted this

A little while ago I watched The Lego Movie. This post will contain spoilers, but you probably won't even watch the movie since it is Matrix propaganda produced by Matrix and so on. It had nice production values, shiny colors, good voice acting etc., but what really struck me was the narrative and world building. Yeah yeah wahoo bing bong they traversed all around some nice looking Lego scenes with Batman and other cross-universe celebs, but it was all just a clever ploy to show the protagonist (and the consumer) different ways to live your life. >City full of mindless, but happy slaves >Party place full of hedonists >Western place with grumpy with folks, who did what they wanted >"Heroes" that just needed someone to say that they should do something >Evil HQ™ with bots that acted like citizens with extra steps Everyone just waiting for a leader to come and say what they should do. Nice Matrix rip off kind of, with a revealed father/son-dynamic in the end, wouldn't recommend.

Has anyone seen Session 9? It was, in my opinion, an amazing spiritual successor to Shining-esc horror. It's quite obscure in the realm of film I find.