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 No.1750315[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

I'm going to sound like a schizo but I've recently had an out of body experience after taking too much ketamine.
I was literally hovering over my own body and I could see myself asleep lying.
Im starting to doubt materialism and the very notion that our senses and our collective knowledge of this universe is incredibly limited to an absurd degree. I feel like we're like a goldfish living in a bowl. No matter how hard we try we will never have the faculties to understand the universe we inhabit.
I'm beginning to disregard every philosophical tenet I've once held and I'm now in this real of philosophical nihilism where I can't simply answer any of my questions. I'm also beginning to wonder if our elites are holding some answers from us. I mean they seem to be into some really weird esoteric shit. Like why did Epstein have a temple with a minerva statue?
What's the deal with their obsession with moloch and shit ?
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 No.1793241

>>1755242
> idealists in 2024 are just really this bad at arguing
Always have been.
This reminds me of someone I knew that tried acid 1 time and then wouldn’t shut up about new age crap

 No.1793293

98% of the time when people mean materialism they are just being retarded vulgar materialists. This question isn't even that interesting. Who gives a fuck about matter? Its being/existence that's the more interesting area. Western philosophy was pure garbage until Deleuze and Heidegger. Nobody should ever give a fuck about the idealism vs materialism debate. Its settled already. Move on.

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>>1793293
> Western philosophy was pure garbage until Deleuze and Heidegger
>Heidegger

 No.1793310

>>1753957
>unironic iron march poster
holy fuck lmfao



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 No.1793143[Reply]

Seeing a lot of these stupid vulgar-pessimist or faux-pessimist threads pop up so I thought I'd chime in.

Practically speaking, you should not give a fuck. This world is a vile hell and what awaits you is not societal collapse, a great rapture, or a fabled paradise, but a drawn-out and insignificant death marked by a ferrous agony you'll get to taste as it slowly rips your soul out of your body and delivers you to the eternal and all-sufficient blackness that awaits us all.

All of the conclusions of communist thought are nauseatingly obvious, but all the while unreachable. Were this not this case, you'd be living your fantasy world now. The cope that produces the aborted determinism of Marxism after Marx; the same cope that all your predecessors were slowly drained of as they watched the revolutionary future fade into a burning horizon; will die with you; a realization waiting to hit you like a brick to the mouth, no matter how much you'll tell yourself otherwise in the minutes after reading this random shitpost that you'll soon forget.

The idea of the better world is a pernicious worm. It enters you through the anus, it cores you, and it will leave you hollow. You'll let all this happen, you'll pretend you're in charge, and even those who can manage to convince themselves that their tendency towards communism is all but a harmless bourgeois fantasy – one they'll be able to shelf if they can just find an adequate, respectable way of living under capital – will soon find their little dreams come to naught, as this world gets slightly worse and worse, on the cusp of inhabitability, but not enough to release you from the agony. If you look to your feet and examine closely, you can already see faint visions of the shit you'll soon drown in.

So go do Stalinist bullshit. LeftComs and their zealous materialism are the "right opinion (tm)", but it's retarded to even think of caring anymore. Truth is a bourgeois fiction, Marx and Lenin are long dead, and the workers are not going to save you. If you're a petty bourgeoisie, you're going to be proletarianized, and if you're a proletarian, you're going to be liquidated; this is not a case of 'if' and 'maybe', this is a case of when, where, and how. Real optimism is a luxury only the few gods and heroes who walk on earth can afford, and their money and our bodies are the fuel that keeps it burning.

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 No.1793150


>inb4 muh random insurrection in some irrelevant shithole

>Ok. Go there then and let me know me how it turns out.

PERSONAL QUALITIES OF THE URBAN GUERRILLA

The urban guerrilla is characterized by his bravery and his decisive nature. He must be a good tactician, and a good marksman. The urban guerrilla must be a person of great cleverness to compensate for the fact that he is not sufficiently strong in weapons, ammunition and equipment.

The career military officers and the government police have modern weapons and transport, and can go about anywhere freely, using the force of their own strength. The urban guerrilla does not have such resources at his disposal, and leads a clandestine existence. The guerrilla may be a convicted person or one who is out on parole, and must then use false documents.

Nevertheless, the urban guerrilla has an advantage over the conventional military or the police. It is that, while the military and the police act on behalf of the enemy, whom the people hate, the urban guerrilla defends a just cause, which is the people's cause.

The urban guerrilla's weapons are inferior to the enemy's, but from the moral point of view, the urban guerrilla has an undeniable superiority. This moral superiority is what sustains the urban guerrilla. Thanks to it, the urban guerrilla can accomplish his principle duty, which is to attack and survive.

The urban guerrilla has to capture or steal weapons from the enemy to be able to fight. Because his weapons are not uniform—since what he has are expropriated or have fallen into his hands in various ways—the urban guerrilla faces the problem of a variety of weapons and a shortage of ammunition. Moreover, he has no place in which to practice shooting and marksmanship. These difficulties have to be overcome, forcing the urban guerrillas to be imaginative and creative—qualities without which it would be impossible for him to carry out his role as a revolutionary.
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 No.1793200

It's astonishing how the mind can torment itself.

>We are all doomed to die. Nothing matters. Everything is insignificant.


All true. But also, why is that bad exactly? Why is it bad that nothing matters? In fact, it's quite amazing that we got to exist at all. I genuinely suggest you take a step back and think about beautiful thoughts or experiences that you're grateful to have. Here's some personal examples from myself:
>Grateful to have seen the stars last night
>Grateful to be a weird piece of the universe appreciating itself everytime I look up at the stars
>Grateful for all the cool ideas I got to engage with, whether it be math stuff or people's musings about how society works
>Grateful for all the kind people I've met, and that I have such a concept as kindness

Maybe gommunizm happens someday, maybe it doesn't. But nothing matters, right? It really doesn't make a difference in the big picture (i.e. the cosmic scale). We're here for a blink of an eye, why let your brain torture itself like this when you could instead spend that time appreciating that you even exist at all?



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 No.1793061[Reply]

Offer a good logical argument for why you support Palestinian resistance against their occupiers
>US govt calls them terrorists
https://www.reddit.com/r/Jewish/s/eX5YrQyVSH
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 No.1793163

>>1793086
>The interests of the Palestinian proletariat is the same as the Israeli proletariat,

Completely uninformed and idiotically idealistic take. I hope you have absolutely no grasp of how colonialism works, because otherwise nothing justifies how dumb this diatribe is.

Also, Hamas is not the only Palestinian resistance movement. If they didn't exist, some other group would take their place. Furthermore, characterising Hamas' assaults as 'capitalist slaughter' because they take money from capitalists is retarded. Your definition of the word is so vague it's meaningless

Tell me dipshit

When did capitalism start?

And why is fighting an invader before/after that time point suddenly a capitalist act?

 No.1793164

>>1793122
Building a hippie commune on the bones of murdered Arabs has nothing to do with the construction of socialism on a worldwide, or even national, scale.

 No.1793166

>>1793061
i dont support anything i shit post online

 No.1793176

>>1793086
>The pro-Palestine person supports the magic-thinking nonsense of past crimes making you a candidate for capitalist slaughter (and indeed Hamas are an organization funded in large part by the Qatari bourgeoisie).
this is quite literally a thoroughly pro-israeli talking point that pretends that the foundation of their country happened in the distant past, on past crimes that nobody can be held accountable for or fairly see justice for, when in reality this has overwhelmingly happened within living memory, heavily since the the 1940s and even moreso since the 1960s. The perpetrators are still alive and well, the victims either alive or with immediate family who are so. To pretend otherwise is quite literally the frame of reference of those who want to commit genocide.

 No.1793351

the problem with the pro-Palestinian guy's argument is that he implies that
>terrorism is wrong
when in reality it isn't



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 No.1792675[Reply]

Haiti's prime minister Ariel Henry resigns as law and order collapses
It comes after regional leaders met in Jamaica on Monday to discuss a political transition in Haiti. Mr Henry is currently stranded in Puerto Rico after being prevented by armed gangs from returning home. In a video address announcing his resignation, Mr Henry urged Haitians to remain calm.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-68541349

Jamaica To Take in Haitian Orphans Amidst the Crisis
On Monday, national media reported that Jamaica's Minister of National Security, Horace Chang, confirmed that the country will take in orphans from Haiti, amid growing social challenges in the French-speaking nation, particularly in Port-au-Prince.
https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Jamaica-To-Take-in-Haitian-Orphans-Amidst-the-Crisis-20240311-0012.html

An aid ship sets sail to Gaza, where hundreds of thousands face starvation 5 months into war
The food on the aid ship was collected by World Central Kitchen, the charity founded by celebrity chef José Andrés, and is being transported by the Spanish aid group Open Arms. The ship departed from the eastern Mediterranean island nation of Cyprus and is expected to arrive in Gaza in two to three days.
https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-news-03-12-2024-d2ba829df1df1092cf421fc591af9063

Israel's jails 'overcrowded' as it plans to imprison more Palestinians this year
Israeli jails are planning to receive thousands of Palestinian detainees during 2024, Israeli Prime Minister Benyamin Netanyahu said on Monday, according to Israeli media. During a meeting with representatives from the Israeli ministries of defence and national security, the Israeli army and intelligence presented estimates that thousands of Palestinians would be arrested despite the lack of space in Israeli jails.
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 No.1792704

Boeing whistleblower John Barnett, who raised alarm over plane quality, is found dead
Barnett's body was found in a vehicle in a Holiday Inn parking lot in Charleston on Saturday, police said. One day earlier, he testified about the string of problems he says he identified at Boeing's plant where he once helped inspect the 787 aircraft before delivery to customers.
https://www.npr.org/2024/03/12/1238033573/boeing-whistleblower-john-barnett-dead

Warden ousted as FBI again searches California federal women’s prison plagued by sexual abuse
The warden of a troubled federal women’s prison in California has been ousted months into his tenure as FBI agents on Monday hauled boxes of evidence from the facility in an apparent escalation of a yearslong investigation that put a former warden and other employees behind bars for sexually abusing inmates.
https://apnews.com/article/federal-prisons-dublin-sexual-abuse-fbi-d59870c859d58e1ab2b158392adaee57

New York police used stun gun on migrant holding toddler, video shows
The video, released by the New York Times, shows police officers trying to arrest Yanny Cordero, 47, as he holds his son. At some point during the video, which the Times says is two and a half minutes long, police appear to pull out a yellow stun gun and use it on the man as he holds his one-year-old son.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/12/nyc-police-stun-gun-migrant

Airbnb bans use of indoor security cameras amid privacy concerns
Airbnb has banned the use of indoor security cameras at its properties worldwide amid privacy concerns. The short-term rental platform said on Monday it had made the decision as part of its efforts to simplify its policy on security cameras and “prioritise the privacy of our community”.
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 No.1792743

Truth before trade: The Britain-India trade deal must stop until the truth is known about the anti-Sikh murder campaign, argues CLAUDIA WEBBE MP
Around the same time as the murder of Nijjar and the plot against Pannun, Birmingham Sikh activist Avtar Singh Kanda complained that Indian police were verbally harassing him by phone and threatening his family in Punjab. He died suddenly. The British authorities have said that he died of sudden acute myeloid leukaemia, but his family believe his death to be suspicious. The British government is still pursuing what it claims is a “really huge” trade deal with India, yet is failing to use the opportunity — one of the few concrete chances it has — to apply pressure to the Indian government on its human rights record generally or the issue of the assassination campaign in particular. India wants more visas for Indian workers and an agreement on social security payments — these could be used as leverage if the government was interested in doing so. Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi denied any involvement of the Indian government in the murders and assassination attempts and said he would “look into” the alleged involvement of an Indian intelligence operative.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/truth-trade

New Study: Where Are All the Left Populists?
Despite the appeal of forceful, anti–economic elite messaging to the demographics that Democrats desperately need to reach — such as working-class and rural voters — few Democrats actually employ this kind of messaging. Even fewer run on bold progressive economic policies such as raising the minimum wage or a jobs guarantee. Finally, working-class candidates were extremely rare — 2 percent to 6 percent of candidates, depending on the measure — and those who did run were typically marginal primary candidates or ran Hail Mary general election campaigns in deep-red districts. How did progressives, populists, and working-class candidates fare when they did run? In short, quite well. Candidates who used economic populist rhetoric won higher vote shares in general elections, especially in highly working-class districts, rural and small-town districts, and districts where the majority were white and not college educated. We also find that Democratic candidates running on economically progressive polPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.1792951

Tybna

 No.1792956

Fuck Ariel Henry

 No.1793131

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Thanks News Anon



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 No.1791326[Reply]

judging government based on their policy is wrong.
judging government based on what said government said is wrong.
judging government based on what the people said is wrong.
potraying government as hating queers and minorities is wrong.
stop potraying goverment as if they monitor their citizen 24/7 to see sign if they do things that are considered queer or againts making hetero familliy. and then arrest them becuase they hate queer people and put them on scary labour/torture/cell camp. it is wrong to potray government like this.
stop potraying government as if their country have every region filled with anti-queer/ anti-minority people who are the same as american conservative level people. it is wrong to potray government and country as that.
always remember to specify everytime everywhere.
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 No.1792156

>>1791326
I thought you were being sarcastic at first.
Turns out you're just dumb.

 No.1792885

>>1791897
>>1792110
>>1792156
stop being pretentious

 No.1792889

On what are we suppose to judge governements? Vibes?

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 No.1792948

>>1792885
You have no idea what that word means.



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 No.1792446[Reply]

>Angelic Materialism and its Enemies
>
>"…the victory of materialism in Russia resulted in the complete disappearence of all matter."
>…
>…
>Essential to the politics of retreat is a (covert) certainty of their own failure to achieve anything, the enjoyment of a lost cause. One unifying and determining feature of these orientations is the logic of exponentially compounding grief, positive feedback ever-intensifying into a malaise that renders all political activity utterly hopeless: 'Nothing Ever Happens'. When the cause is lost it is 'pretty', whereas revolutions are always 'ugly'. But the 'Party' can't be just the realisation of a negatively-determined 'politics of advancement' against the retreat - it must be the satisfaction of the desires expressed by the unhappy consciousness of its enemy. The task of the 'Party' is to uncover the fundamental unity of joy and grief, to 'convert' or reveal the grief as joy… Perhaps in order to understand the objectives of this politics it's necessary to look to somewhere outside the so-called 'declining' West, somewhere where these psychic hang-ups don't dominate. Look East: a political aesthetics is rising, one dwelling within that same determinant "subjective realm" as our native politics, which embodies the 'artistic' and the 'religious' while overcoming (rather, side-stepping) the Western trap whereby grief becomes the singular totalising transcendental structure of political thought. This aesthetic locates itself in a wholly novel iteration of Partisan activity: Lebanon's Hezb'Allah, the Party of God.
>
>Before discussing Hezb'Allah directly it's necessary to outline its genealogy. In August of 1920 the Executive Committee of the Third International held the Congress of the Peoples of the East in Baku, Azerbaijan. At this gathering Zinoviev, Chairman of the proceedings, declared outright that the common task of the communists and the peoples of colonised asia was Jihad against Western (in particular British) capital: "Arise, peoples of the East! The Third International summons you to a Holy War against the carrion-crows of capitalism…, propagate the idea of a federation of oppressed nations… create a union Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>1792446
>literal word salad
>A term used by Haz (InfraRed)
>against the inhumanisms, posthumanisms, antihumanisms: humanism
>isms isms isms…
Ai writes better drivel than this shit and ai is shit at writing.

 No.1792776

>>1792707
I’m not impressed by your argumentum ad populum.
Reactionaries are popular sometimes too.

 No.1792788

>>1792776
I am not convinced either i was looking for robespizzare quotes

 No.1792872

>>1792446
phew for a second I almost thought leftist theory was dead

 No.1792927

nice /b/ material



 No.1777528[Reply]

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/libs-tiktok-x-chaya-raichik-bomb-threat-twitter-of-libsoftiktok-rcna102784
She's a great example of how sometimes, even though it's just speech, someone's political propaganda can be so hateful, so paranoid, and so targeted that it spills over into real-world violence. I really hope someone brings a lawsuit against her, first and foremost for everyone's safety especially the children of the schools that are being threatened, and it would be a victory for Nex Benedict to see her brought to justice. But also, I think if people could understand that, they could also understand that when NATO calls a socialist state "undemocratic", it usually means that they have laws in place that prevent people like Chaya Raichik from inciting more violence, or that they ban openly fascist and neo-nazi parties, or ban books like Seige.
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 No.1778457

Tbh no matter what your opinions of transgenderism are you cannot justify a kid being literally lynched in their school toilet. This is a textbook case of violent bullying and it is despairing that culture wars have caused lead-brained idiots to try and ignore it

 No.1778464

>>1778461
But the Soviet Union doesn't exist anymore, Cuba and Vietnam have changed their stances on such issues in accordance with new scientific research

 No.1778564

>>1778399
>Both these demographics are much more pro-trans than the general population. It's litteraly them and their urbanite children that made "trans rights" a thing to begin with so this doesnt make much sense.

huh, source? i dont think the general population would care much at all about trans issues if the issues werent astroturfed by concern trolling reactionary media & then organically propogated by politically opinionated americans. these demographics didnt make trans rights a thing, they were the target demographic for and helped create a moral panic around trans shit in general.

>They just wants more right-wing policies on economic and crime that's it, they're not socons at all.


Youre right that theyre not especially invested in social conservatism, but both of these demographics are deeply invested in certain aesthetic norms that are easily exploitable by reactionaries

Anyway this is all besides the point of what im mainly saying, which is that regardless of these demographics actual beliefs or their significance, the democratic party BELIEVES that they need to treat anything to do with trans issues very carefully because they are convinced it will alienate those voting blocs if they are too firmly supportive

 No.1778620

>>1777565
You're not allowed in America to point out that all these religious institutions exist to grift gullible people and abuse children. That's cringe athiesm, just let people enjoy things.

 No.1792920

can someone give me a list of thing this "libsoftiktok" has done ?



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 No.1792883[Reply]

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/03/12/usps-m12.html

>The United States Postal Service and the National Association of Letter Carriers (NALC) have moved closer towards binding interest arbitration, with both parties agreeing to select Dennis Nolan as arbitrator in potential future proceedings. More than 275,000 city letter carriers have been working without a new contract for nearly a year since the last deal expired last May.


>The NALC bureaucracy presents both Nolan and the arbitration process itself as a neutral process through which the interests of management and the workers can be harmonized. In reality, binding interest arbitration is a thoroughly undemocratic measure through which a contract favorable to the post office will be imposed without even the fig-leaf of a vote by workers. It is provided for by anti-worker laws, on the books for decades, which ban federal employees from striking, in clear violation of workers’ First Amendment right to free speech.


>The selection of Nolan is a clear signal that the government intends to impose a brutal contract on postal workers. In October 2002, President George W. Bush appointed Nolan to the Presidential Board of Inquiry on the Work Stoppage in the San Francisco West Coast Ports, where a contract dispute between the Pacific Maritime Association, which represents shippers, and the International Longshore and Warehouse Union had shut down 29 West Coast ports.


>Nolan and the rest of the board issued a report that declared: “We believe that the seeds of distrust have been widely sown, poisoning the atmosphere of mutual trust and respect which could enable a resolution of seemingly intractable issues. For example, the parties have been unable to agree even on such matters as the length of proposed temporary contract extensions although both know that their standoff costs the Nation billions of dollars. We have no confidence that the parties will resolve the West Coast ports dispute within a reasonable time.”


>The report was a critical link in the chain to more direct government intervention. Only three hours after the report was presented, a federal judge granted a request for an anti-strike injunction from the Bush ad
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 No.1792424[Reply]

The problem with reform is that you're looking at the wrong thing. Wealth distribution. The reforms goals should be to make the state more efficient.
The Chinese might like their government cause it's efficient but for some reason the American government is a quagmire. While the Chinese build nuclear plants the government of California is stalling it because they say it's bad for the environment.
Make the government more efficient and wealth redistribution will follow.
One way to streamline the government is with technology for example.
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 No.1792555

Ogey Georges Sorel :DDD

 No.1792562

>>1792429
its truly abominable

 No.1792567

>>1792552
>They never had a socialist revolution.
Wrong, the revolution of 1860-1865 was a socialist revolution, the north was entirely socialist in character until the counter revolution ushered in by the Buchanan administration

 No.1792624

>>1792541
>Imagine a government that was as efficient as private business why wouldn't it absorb the economy over time?
My guy, have you never read anything about class from marx?
The people with money manouvre lackeys into government to privatise it. They do it to make the government into a tool for bourgoies rule, for their interests.
Your entire misunderstanding comes from thinking that the state is a neutral organ.

 No.1792787

>>1792624
It is easier to have reform with teeth than permanent revolution. However strikes are hardly the answer these days…



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 No.1787940[Reply]

-Your boss and Corporate America are screwing you. Your politicians are taking legal bribes and letting it happen.

-Private ownership over the means of production and authoritarian workplaces owned by the top 10% (aka Capitalism) are exploiting and over working you.

-Capitalism, Corporations, Billionaires as well as our consumerist and fossil fuel addicted economies are killing life in our country and around the world.

-We spend money on weapons of death and destruction rather than advancing humanity and pursuing sustainability.

-Your tax dollars are funding ruthless blood thirsty imperialism and genocide.

-The only way to overcome the toxic status quo is to revolt. That means strikes and committing mass acts of civil disobedience.

We don’t have much time. Either revolution happens within the next 15 years or global warming will fuck the whole planet. Which may also lead to wars and nuclear armaggedon. START THE REVOLUTION NOW
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 No.1792585

>>1787940
The next Jakarta Method, Operation Condor and will go on while worker solidarity is tightly restrained by national franchises of the US culture war, a far better weapon than nukes.

 No.1792596

>>1792542
because everyone here already knows we need revolution now

 No.1792634

>>1787940
Extinction is a legitimate alternative to capitalism. If the proles can not win every effort to make bourgeois life impossible for them and their descendants should be made.

 No.1792699

>>1792542
>less than a day
>Why so few replies
It's not like a fbi.gov guild or 4chan, you gotta bookmark your thread and check on it every once in a while.
Also like other anons said, we're all already aware of this threat and are doing our own praxis toward revolution. You gotta think of novel ways to work toward it.

 No.1792705

>>1787940
>We don’t have much time. Either revolution happens within the next 15 years or global warming will fuck the whole planet. Which may also lead to wars and nuclear armaggedon.
We have plenty of time. Humanity isn't going to collapse entirely. Climate change and revolution are very gradual processes, not a spontaneous and instant ones.
>>1787945
>It’s not happening in our lifetime by the way.
The revolution is already happening. See Communist China.
>>1792634
>Extinction is a legitimate alternative to capitalism. If the proles can not win every effort to make bourgeois life impossible for them and their descendants should be made.
Exactly. The genuine, model proletarian has nothing to lose, not even their own lives.



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