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Lefty memes/cartoons Anonymous 03/21/2021 (Sun) 22:12:03 No. 1329949 [Reply]
I only did 2 so far. Should I make more? Also post yours.
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>>1330022 i think you might mean the guys at the GLF? they were totally a bunch of white rich kids larping as ecologists otherwise: feds
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>>1330022 >reading theory >not making your own theory out of your experience what would you even know about getting laid?
>>1330033 Not much, but I have a lot of experience being ugly and poor.
>>1329951 The strangest conceit of this website, is that you people read anything besides forums

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Anonymous 03/21/2021 (Sun) 10:48:54 No. 1329870 [Reply]
If Marx were alive today. what would he say about them?
>>1329870 Marx was a bookworm. He would be more interested in how animations are made than watching.
>>1329882 The Simpsons have been in production for so long the production process has radically changed over the quarter century.
>>1329870 He would say that jewish uighur frederick lasalle can sneed.
>>1329870 He would call Sneed petit-bourgeois and Chuck, is even worse, a lumpen-bourgeois so to say.

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News 3/17/21 News Anon 3.0 03/17/2021 (Wed) 18:31:18 No. 1329392 [Reply]
‘My camera against your baton’: Protesters rally in Paris as Senate debates controversial bill aimed at protecting police (VIDEO) Protesters denounced a controversial bill aimed at protecting the identity of police officers as they rallied outside the French Senate building in Paris on Tuesday. The government has affirmed its support for the legislation. People carried lit flares and placards saying, ‘My camera against your baton.’ They shouted anti-police slogans and demanded the resignation of Interior Minister Gerald Darmanin. https://on.rt.com/b3xn French communist leader calls for action against blockade on Cuba We are as always by the side of the Cuban people, said the PCF national secretary, who described the new UN vote in June at the General Assembly on the need to lift the blockade as important. This is a global demand expressed 28 consecutive occasions since 1992 in that multilateral forum. https://www.plenglish.com/index.php?o=rn&id=65441&SEO=french-communist-leader-calls-for-action-against-blockade-on-cuba Communist Party of Sudan leader receives death threats Masoud El Hasan, a leader from the Sudanese Communist Party (SCP), has received text messages with death threats. He said so during a live broadcast of his party on Facebook yesterday. El Hasan emphasised that he felt he was not targeted personally, but that the threat was directed at “all members of the revolutionary forces, the SCP and those who oppose the policies of the former regime”. https://www.dabangasudan.org/en/all-news/article/communist-party-of-sudan-leader-receives-death-threats Election looming, Iran's Rouhani says hardliners sabotage goal to lift sanctions “It is a great betrayal of the Iranian nation if any faction or person delays the end of the sanctions even for one hour,” Hassan Rouhani said in televised remarks. “The small minority that is obstructing this path needs to stop its destructive act. If it stops … the government can break the sanctions,” Rouhani added without elaborating. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-nuclear-idUSKBN2B91CX Syria’s Assad offers stimulus to public workers as crisis deepens

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The Victims of Agent Orange the U.S. Has Never Acknowledged Hammond, Chagnon and Sengthong make up the core of the staff of a nongovernmental organization called the War Legacies Project. Hammond, a self-described Army brat whose father was a senior military officer in the war in Vietnam, founded the group in 2008. Chagnon, who is almost a generation older, was one of the first foreigners allowed to work in Laos after the conflict, representing a Quaker organization, the American Friends Service Committee. Sengthong, a retired schoolteacher who is Chagnon’s neighbor in the country’s capital, Vientiane, is responsible for the record-keeping and local coordination. The main focus of the War Legacies Project is to document the long-term effects of the defoliant known as Agent Orange and provide humanitarian aid to its victims. Named for the colored stripe painted on its barrels, Agent Orange — best known for its widespread use by the U.S. military to clear vegetation during the Vietnam War — is notorious for being laced with a chemical contaminant called 2,3,7,8-Tetrachlorodibenzo-P-dioxin, or TCDD, regarded as one of the most toxic substances ever created. The use of the herbicide in the neutral nation of Laos by the United States — secretly, illegally and in large amounts — remains one of the last untold stories of the American war in Southeast Asia. Decades later, even in official military records, the spraying of Laos is mentioned only in passing. When the Air Force in 1982 finally released its partially redacted official history of the defoliation campaign, Operation Ranch Hand, the three pages on Laos attracted almost no attention, other than a statement from Gen. William Westmoreland, a former commander of U.S. forces in Vietnam, that he knew nothing about it — although it was he who ordered it in the first place. Laos remained a forgotten footnote to a lost war. To those who followed the conflict’s aftermath intimately, this was hardly surprising. Only in the last two decades has the United States finally acknowledged and taken responsibility for the legacy of Agent Orange in Vietnam, committing hundreds of millions of dollars to aiding the victims and cleaning up the worst-contaminated hot spots there. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/16/magazine/laos-agent-orange-vietnam-war.html#click=https://t.co/GUCLYMUKeD https://archive.is/kc3BK Digital Trails: How the FBI Identifies, Tracks and Rounds Up Dissidents Americans deserve the freedom to choose a life without surveillance and the government regulation that would make that possible. While we continue to believe the sentiment, we fear it may soon be obsolete or irrelevant. We deserve that freedom, but the window to achieve it narrows a little more each day. If we don’t act now, with great urgency, it may very well close for good.”—Charlie Warzel and Stuart A. Thompson, New York Times Databit by databit, we are building our own electronic concentration camps. With every new smart piece of smart technology we acquire, every new app we download, every new photo or post we share online, we are making it that much easier for the government and its corporate partners to identify, track and eventually round us up. Saint or sinner, it doesn’t matter because we’re all being swept up into a massive digital data dragnet that does not distinguish between those who are innocent of wrongdoing, suspects, or criminals. https://www.mintpressnews.com/fbi-surveillance-digital-trails-track-round-up-dissidents/276217/ The March Action and the Tragedy of German Communism In December 1920, the Communist Party of Germany (KPD) merged with the left wing of the Independent Social Democrats (USPD) under the leadership of Paul Levi. The unified party had a membership in excess of four hundred thousand. Its members had recently helped defeat an attempted far-right coup, the Kapp putsch, and had great confidence about the future. Within months, however, the KPD launched an ill-fated uprising on March 17, 1921 that became known as the March Action. The insurrection was a complete failure; in its aftermath, the KPD lost more than half of its membership. Paul Frölich (1884–1953) is best remembered today for his classic biography of Rosa Luxemburg, which is still in print. Frölich was a member of the KPD leadership in the 1920s and witnessed events firsthand. In this extract from a recently discovered memoir, lost until 2007 and now translated into English, Frölich explains why the KPD came to launch the March Action and how it unfolded. He also gives his impressions of influential Communist leaders like Paul Levi and the Hungarian Béla Kun, and recalls a discussion with Lenin in Moscow after the failure of the March Action. The following is an abridged extract from Paul Frölich’s memoir In the Radical Camp: A Political Autobiography 1890–1921, translated by David Fernbach as part of the Historical Materialism Book Series. https://www.jacobinmag.com/2021/03/march-action-tradegy-german-communism-history
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Thanks news anon
>hammer and sickle on yellow vests Based frogs
>>1329392 As always thank you News Anon.
>>1329395 >Police investigate suspect’s motive in Atlanta-area killings Btw this turned out to mostly be a religious thing. He was getting sexual services from the spas and he thought it was super sinful.

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Developing productive forces TradCom 03/02/2021 (Tue) 18:34:28 No. 1327154 [Reply]
Quote from Karl Marx, The Germany Ideology. How does this not apply to China today? Why do western leftists with no accomplishments or credentials to their name feel they have the authority to conclude the Chinese revolution has failed? To paraphrase Stalin, the march of history does not advance in a straight line. There are starts and stops. Great leaps and crushing setbacks. Why is the western left so obstinately convinced that the end of history thesis is correct despite all the evidence to the contrary?
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>>1327163 You're complaint is that they're not doing it fast enough? That you want it right now? Despite that as of 2021, China is on their way to become the world hegemon surpassing the U.S.? Do you realize if they chose to hastily establish socialism as soon as they accumulated productive forces of Europe in early 1900's, they would still have to compete with the rest of the world, with each capitalist country having productive forces of 21st century? Shouldn't they wait for another revolutionary tide in the world, or another financial crisis that they could take advantage of?
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>>1327518 The fact that SWIFT already works, and that nobody has any real issues with it aside from a few maymays like Iran. >>1328837 >neolib chynah is prodonktive & cummynist >totes not shareblu line ugaiz >>1329729 >You're complaint is that they're not doing it fast enough? No, my complaint is that they've betrayed every criterion for the minimum needs of communism. >China is on their way to become the world hegemon The entire point of NATO declining and other powerblocs rising is that the age of hegemony is OVER. We now live in a multipolar world, at most. Likelier, we live in an ultraimperialist world. >if they chose to hastily establish socialism as soon as they accumulated productive forces of Europe in early 1900's, they would still have to compete with the rest of the world WOAH, quiet part out loud much, Dengoid? Communism will be a superior economic system, which should produce superior growth, superior development, superior efficiency. Just as capitalism directly outcompeted feudalism when the minimum conditions for capitalism came about.
cockshottians are even more retarded than dengists
>>1327163 Because we now know that people want more than just bread on the table and clothes to warm them. Socialism needs to be better than capitalism in terms of material wealth generated for the masses. Times change and theory SHOULD change with it.
>>1329967 >Because we now know that people want more than just bread on the table and clothes to warm them So your argument "for" communism, is that communism is incapable of giving us these things, only capitalism can? Again, as in the post you replied to, what would be enough? As succdem mixed economy Scandinavian Eurocapitalism advances material conditions even further, will transition to communism again be rendered "temporarily" defunct?

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Anonymous 02/23/2021 (Tue) 03:05:25 No. 1325085 [Reply]
why is this man praised by communists and capitalists alike? does anyone even hate him?
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>>1325085 >why is this man praised by communists Deng has become a key Chinese figure. Communist scholars and economists even if they know that he is a "capitalist roader" (reinstated capitalism in China) their interest to sell books, write articles, attend lectures (paid by the universities) and have celebrity status in China got the better of them. In addition, those same communist scholars and economics can exhibit China and its economic figures due to Dengs's reforms as an alternative (faux alternative: not too different from the British in the 1800s at some point with child labour which since has been significantly reduced if not being rid completely) to Capitalism in North America and Europe. Furthermore, despite Deng supporting the Mujaheddin and Osama Bin Laden in Afghanistan, the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia in conjunction with the USA against Vietnam, evading Vietnam (and being defeated) and had cordial relations with Kissinger and Nixon he has been perceived as presenting China as a counter-balance to the USA. >and capitalists alike Deng has followed the dictates of the capitalists quite religiously. Those capitalists and economists alike have been from Chinese diaspora in Singapore to Wall Street and City of London which has flattered them. There was also the agreement for Deng to repay the bonds issued by the Qing Dynasty which Mao rescinded (and perhaps orchestrated the cultural revolution in China as to show that Mao's China isnt a continuation of the China of old and thus not liable to pay the bonds - in his estimation) China offers them a vast market to sell their goods and services, manufacture items for less, a source of foreign investment (in latter years) and a source of exploitable labour by the Chinese diaspora and unscrupulous boomers. >does anyone even hate him? Yes.
>>1325595 It works against the proletariat if capitalists are overregulated.
>>1325085 Capitalists hate him because he is evil communist stop making up shit lol
>>1325102 >Actual anti-capitalists (i.e., anarchists) Shut up faggot.
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Fascist attack in France Anonymous 03/20/2021 (Sat) 16:50:25 No. 1329776 [Reply]
Again, a fascist attack in Lyon, France this saturday against an anarchist library, here is the full video: https://twitter.com/ArnaultRaphael/status/1373274146239610881 They were around 40, thank god these retards have only smashed windows These fash have rage because they constantly got humiliated, the fash organisation "Generation Identitaire" had been dissolved recently and these last weeks there was at least three mini antifascist demonstrations around their local(here is the pics: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=292491248960178&id=109220607287244 ) Plus we violently kicked them out the Yellow Vest protests 2 years ago where they targeted black/arabs or leftists: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MeRseyzJS0 The two main antifascist organisations have done great work to secure the streets(active fash in Lyon are probably around only 50 active individuals and ~20 more but they catalize a lot of energy), there is Jeune Garde Lyon, red and which have a strong presence in the labor movement, and the more autonomous Groupe Antifasciste Lyon et Environs. The only thing they can do is surprise attack but when we and they know we'll meet, we always destroy them(like in the Yellow Vests protests).
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anarkiddies btfo
>>1329776 Extremely based. France is like its own little bubble not much information in or out because language barrier.
>>1329901 Lol the main group fighting against fash(Jeune Garde Lyon) are not anarkiddies trust me
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>>1329966 >dude trust me bro

Anonymous 02/18/2021 (Thu) 21:55:03 No. 1323620 [Reply]
You are now imagining a world where the Republicans won the Spanish Civil War and the Internationale was sung all the way across the old world, from the Pacific coast to the Atllantic. Don't cry.
>>1323620 >falls for sucdems >completely liberalized by mid 90s wow just imagine
I won't cry because my desire for proletarian revolution isn't grounded in emotional sentimentalism or an aesthetic preference. Because I'm not a LARPer like everyone on here.
>>1323899 This.
>>1323620 I don't even have to imagine, because it'd be cucked as hell.

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Russian Civil War General Anonymous 01/26/2021 (Tue) 20:05:32 No. 1307869 [Reply]
How come there isn't a single thread on the war that led to the first official communist states? What does /leftypol/ know or think of this war? Is there something you wish has changed during this period? Like a mistake by the reds or an unnecessary revolt? Who do you think was the best commander? >inb4trotsky with his massive train How did the Bolsheviks resist a counter-revolution by the tsar-loyalists, liberals, and anti-communists funded by every capitalist nation at that time? Post everything related to the russian civil war here, documents, stories, old relics, what important figures thought of the civil war, pictures and weapons if you are russian, movies and more >hard mode no wikipedia articles, i don't trust wikipedia.
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>>1322071 You're either petty or soulless.
>>1322050 le ebin KR memes
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>>1322071 >NO YOU CAN'T FOLLOW MENTALLY ILL RETARDS ON MURDEROUS RAMPAGES TAKE YOUR MEDS
>>1309450 lovely
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Hey bunkerfags, let's have a talkietalkie Anonymous 03/15/2021 (Mon) 18:40:50 No. 1329119 [Reply]
I come from 4Mordor, and no, we're not all the same person. Not a "third positionist" either. Ban me or don't, I came to ask a question - so let's for a moment suspend my belief that all of you are monstrous evildoers and let's chat like normal people fuck, convince me even if you can What is your take on accountability of the main actors in society. Let's for the purpose of this thought experiment say that all of your wet dreams came through and we live in bunker-utopia right now How are the main players accountable to the masses, "who guard the guardians" and how?
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>>1329210 nukes aren't real
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Something like this. >The Central Commission for Discipline Inspection (CCDI) is the highest internal control institution of the Communist Party, tasked with enforcing internal rules and regulations and combating corruption and malfeasance in the Party. Since the vast majority of officials at all levels of government are also Communist Party members, the commission is in practice the top anti-corruption body. >The modern commission was established at the 3rd Plenary Session of the 11th Central Committee in December 1978. Control systems had existed previously under the name "Central Control Commission" for a brief period in 1927 and again between 1955 and 1968, and under its present name from 1949 to 1955. It was disbanded during the Cultural Revolution in 1969. In 1993, the internal operations of the agency and the government's Ministry of Supervision (MOS) were merged. Although the commission is theoretically independent of the Party's executive institutions such as the Central Committee and its Politburo, historically the work of the CCDI has been directed by the Party's top leaders. However, beginning with Hu Jintao's term as General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party in November 2002, and especially following Xi Jinping's assumption of the party leadership in November 2012, the CCDI has undergone significant reforms to make it more independent from party operations below the Central Committee. >According to the Party's Constitution, the members of the CCDI are elected by the National Congress and serve for a term of five years. After the national congress in which it is elected, the CCDI convenes to elect its Secretary, deputy secretaries, secretary general and Standing Committee. Elected officials must then be endorsed by the Central Committee to take office. The Secretary of the CCDI has, since 1997, been a member of the Politburo Standing Committee and, since 2009, served as the leader of the Central Leading Group for Inspection Work. The current secretary is Zhao Leji, who took office on 25 October 2017. <but who watchman muh watchman that's an absurd complaint you can literally make of any accountability mechanism, it's turtles all the way down
>>1329228 <but who watchman muh watchman >that's an absurd complaint you can literally make of any accountability mechanism, it's turtles all the way down Yes, but neither making the watchmen complaint against a particular proposal as if it were not a permanent problem nor rejecting the complaint by pointing out the problem is permanent really helps us. Different accountability mechanisms have different degrees of vulnerability. We can't solve it, but we should investigate how to minimize the problem. How can a hierarchy of institutions work out? The closer you get to the top in the diagram, the more dangerous are the effects of corruption in that segment for society as a whole. Let's play God and put an office on top of everything called the ACD (anti-corruption dudes). Let's say the ACD can start an investigation on any institution below whenever they feel like doing that and they can also decide what the punishments should be. That's clearly a bit too much power, no? Maybe it's better to have the ACD only spring into action upon request. – Requests by which people and institutions about which people and institutions? Is it maybe more sensible to only process requests by lower tiers against higher tiers? I suppose the higher tiers don't really need much extra help in their usual interactions with the lower tiers. Another way to limit the power of the ACD would be that they can only mete out punishment if they reach decisions internally with super-majorities. But isn't this measure against potential abuse of power completely hollow in a single-party state and more general in states with neither sortition nor proportional elections? There could still be requirements for representing regions or age groups within the ACD I guess.
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I'm actually an evildoer I do what i do because it makes me happy, vulnerable people deserves a chance at life, i know i will hurt a lot of people, i just don't want to hurt vulnerable people, or animals, not anymore, i want to live this life so those who can't live this life don't have to, and those who don't have any choice anymore can fight with me so the burden is not as heavy for us. And no, "identitarianism" and "nationalism" is not the criteria i'm working under.
>>1329138 >so whatever your vision of the "good system" is, there are some people at the top That doesn't follow. Hunter gatherer societies don't have systemic hierarchies. It's not a law of nature or anything you will have "people at the top". You also have modern examples with stateless societies and anarchist organizations

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Gnostic socialism Anonymous 02/10/2021 (Wed) 12:09:42 No. 1319968 [Reply] [Last]
Marx fucked up by being a fedora.
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>>1329780 I'm not surprised by your great sense of epistemology. This is the same human shit that believes in vaccines and covid.
>>1321855 that's a reddit tier take lmao
>>1321855 lots of great scientists believed in a creator
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>>1321789 >It will be a good day when the last Christian dies. <Civilization will not attain to its perfection until the last stone from the last church falls on the last priest REMINDER EMPS WAS GNOSTIC GANG >>1329780 >gospel Nice revisionist scripture from 5 centuries after the time of Christ ya' got there. 'Be quite a shame if somebody was to... Decanonize it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Testament_apocrypha

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