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Do Americans hate socialism primarily because they are a cruel, twisted, ignorant people? Anonymous 01/20/2021 (Wed) 18:36:52 No. 1298809 [Reply] [Last]
I truly believe Americans are a fucking warped degeneration of the human race. Not for any insane polack reasoning like >Muh mutt breeding But rather because Americans have been atomized away from humanity for a long time. Americans are human solely in a biological sense, otherwise they are automatons that consume. That being said, is it their twisted, warped nature that makes Americans despise socialism and communism so much? Do Americans simply worship suffering, death, and devastation? The average American is certainly a vile social darwinist, no? I believe the average American is lying when they Make absurd claims such as >The modern economy is socialist because it is bad :) Or >Joe Biden is a communist/radical leftist Or >The DNC has moved too far to “the Left” ;) Honestly I believe the average American is a lying rat piece of shit and understands what it’s doing when it makes absurd claims such as those listed above. They know that the fundamental assumption that arises from their position is that fascism is the only way. In fact, the average american is a fascist; they will never call themselves one and will loudly say they detest fascism; but if we go by George Jackson’s thesis of the US as a “stabilized fascist society” (Nazi Germany was an unstable fascist society hence the pathological explosion of violence) then it would make the average American a fascist by default, no? Is that why the average American despises socialism then?
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>>1298809 You need to understand america is a religious cult and socialism is the devil. Children begin getting indoctrinated at a young age through ritual and repetition. This is all thanks to mccarthy.
>>1299490 this, burgerstanis are indoctrinated with pro-us propaganda from early childhood
Americans cannot be saved. The nearest an American can come to being decent is to recognize themselves and reality, and allow themselves to be exterminated whenever world revolution comes.
sounds like a personal problem. how was your relationship with your parents and were you ever touched as a child by an older peer or someone else in your family?
>>1299490 However they can't be saved.

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News 3/18/21 News Anon 3.0 03/18/2021 (Thu) 17:44:07 No. 1329502 [Reply]
French city deploys more police after riots over fatal car crash saw store looted, cars torched & truck rammed into cops On Tuesday night, officers in Blois, situated southwest of Paris, were pelted with a barrage of fireworks and other objects, while a delivery driver was kicked out of a truck that was then used as a battering ram against police, according to AFP. Officers reportedly fired a dozen shots at the vehicle as it sped away and crashed into a hedge, without causing any injuries. https://on.rt.com/b42n One million Indian bank employees join two-day national strike against privatisation About one million public sector bank workers joined a two-day national strike on Monday and Tuesday against the plans by Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s government for mergers and privatisations of state banks. Striking workers held protests in several cities across India. https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/03/17/indi-m17.html Northern Ireland police arrest man in investigation into bomb-making by 'New IRA' dissidents Thursday’s arrest was part of a “discrete, stand-alone strand” of the PSNI’s main operation targeting the New IRA, called Operation Arbacia, which is a joint security effort to curb the activities of the group and to arrest members who commit illegal acts. https://on.rt.com/b42g Lebanese President calls for PM to step aside as food shortages start to bite Supermarkets have been forced to close early with some shutting their doors for 24 hours as supplies start to run low. Video footage has been circulating showing people fighting over groceries with head of the foodstuffs importers syndicate Hani Bohsali estimating the country has two months of supplies left. https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/w/lebanese-president-calls-pm-step-aside-food-shortages-start-bite Turkey: Chief prosecutor files lawsuit to close pro-Kurdish HDP party

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U.S. May Miss Deadline For Withdrawing Troops From Afghanistan, Biden Says "The fact is that, that was not a very solidly negotiated deal that the president — the former president — worked out. And so we're in consultation with our allies as well as the government, and that decision's going to be — it's in process now," Biden said. https://www.npr.org/2021/03/17/978106035/biden-says-u-s-may-miss-deadline-for-withdrawing-troops-from-afghanistan Biden’s Likely “Drug Czar” Presided Over Destruction of WV Syringe Program Dr. Gupta previously led West Virginia’s response to the overdose crisis, as the state’s public health commissioner from 2015 to 2018. And it’s his actions (or rather, inaction) in this role that raise questions about his suitability for the ONDCP post—especially since Biden’s current ONDCP has expressed a commitment to compassionate harm reduction principles, a major departure from past federal drug policy agendas. https://filtermag.org/biden-drug-czar-gupta-syringes/ https://archive.is/6uHqY Autopsy: Deputy shot Casey Goodson Jr. 5 times in the back The final autopsy confirmed statements previously made by Goodson’s family that the 23-year-old died after former Franklin County sheriff’s deputy Jason Meade shot him multiple times in the back and torso. Relatives say Goodson was opening the door to his grandmother’s house at the time. https://apnews.com/article/columbus-shootings-police-ohio-us-news-40bf05d21098ca6fafe0beac54f1e96d Teens, Fight for the Future Sell 'Invisiclip' to Counter 'Menace of Facial Recognition' In a bid to make anti-facial recognition technology "more discreet, more affordable, and more effective than any previous solution," two self-described "high school scientists" have partnered with the digital rights group Fight for the Future to develop and market the Invisiclip, a small clip-on device that can easily attach to any pair of glasses or sunglasses. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/03/17/teens-fight-future-sell-invisiclip-counter-menace-facial-recognition

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Karl Marx:[The Paris Commune] Paris, the central seat of the old governmental power, and, at the same time, the social stronghold of the French working class, had risen in arms against the attempt of Thiers and the Rurals to restore and perpetuate that old governmental power bequeathed to them by the empire. Paris could resist only because, in consequence of the siege, it had got rid of the army, and replaced it by a National Guard, the bulk of which consisted of working men. This fact was now to be transformed into an institution. The first decree of the Commune, therefore, was the suppression of the standing army, and the substitution for it of the armed people. The Commune was formed of the municipal councillors, chosen by universal suffrage in the various wards of the town, responsible and revocable at short terms. The majority of its members were naturally working men, or acknowledged representatives of the working class. The Commune was to be a working, not a parliamentary body, executive and legislative at the same time. Instead of continuing to be the agent of the Central Government, the police was at once stripped of its political attributes, and turned into the responsible, and at all times revocable, agent of the Commune. So were the officials of all other branches of the administration. From the members of the Commune downwards, the public service had to be done at workman’s wage. The vested interests and the representation allowances of the high dignitaries of state disappeared along with the high dignitaries themselves. Public functions ceased to be the private property of the tools of the Central Government. Not only municipal administration, but the whole initiative hitherto exercised by the state was laid into the hands of the Commune. https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1871/civil-war-france/ch05.htm The Paris Commune Taught the Bolsheviks How to Win a Revolution To quote Walter Benjamin, this was “a past charged with the time of the now.” By 1917, fearful that his fellow revolutionaries were missing a golden opportunity, Lenin used the example of the Paris Commune to urge the immediate seizure of power. He also started to refer to the direct, self-governing initiatives of the Commune as the practical basis for “a new type of state.” He presented the “Commune-type state” as a ready model for the Soviet state. Famously, in State and Revolution, written during 1917, Lenin claimed that Commune policies such as wage equalization, housing expropriation, and the reconstituting of state and bureaucratic mechanisms could be immediately enacted upon achieving power. The lure of a ready-made “Commune-type state” distinguished Lenin and the Bolsheviks from those socialists that were willing to work with the liberal parliamentarism of the Provisional Government in 1917. https://www.jacobinmag.com/2021/03/paris-commune-bolsheviks-win-a-revolution WSJ Rage at ‘Woke’ China Foreshadows New Redbaiting of Social Justice Activists The Wall Street Journal editorial board (3/7/21) has accused a major Chinese newspaper, and by extension the People’s Republic of China, of exploiting progressive rhetoric around racial justice to create division in the United States. The Journal‘s target was an editorial in the Communist Party–owned newspaper Global Times (2/23/21), which complained that the US, Britain and Canada were pressuring China on human rights. The Journal editorial board accused the party paper of using “woke” language: "Note the use of “white supremacy” and “diversity” and “civilization superiority,” which come straight from the progressive critique of America as a country that is “systemically” racist and oppressive. The Global Times editors may be crude, but they’ve obviously been reading the New York Times. Their dismissal of [Sen. Tom] Cotton as racist is what you see on progressive Twitter." The Journal suggested that the Chinese government was following the playbook of the Soviet Union, which reminded the world of the “social and antiwar turmoil of the 1960s” to turn world opinion against Washington. While implying that concerns of US racial injustice are overstated, the Murdoch-owned broadsheet said the Global Times’ “invocation of woke ideology shows they realize its threat to American confidence and purposes.” https://fair.org/home/wsj-rage-at-woke-china-foreshadows-new-redbaiting-of-social-justice-activists/
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Thanks news anon
I'm no NewsAnon but this needed to be shared and it's not enough to start a thread. Group of junior bankers at Goldman Sachs claim 'inhumane' work conditions https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/mar/18/group-of-junior-bankers-at-goldman-sachs-claim-inhumane-work-conditions

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Is Marxism just coal and hay for NPC's ? Anonymous 03/17/2021 (Wed) 12:46:02 No. 1329333 [Reply]
Honest question, it's not even philosophy or science, Marx was a journalist who derided workers when they disagreed with his views because only he knew best what's best for them.
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>>1329333 Where are all these workers Marx owned and destroyed with facts and logic?
>>1329422 nit sure he destroyed them, prolly shouted angrily that they leave the room
>>1329370 Why don't you actually read Marx's writings on those topics instead of relying on internet randos to explain them to you, retard?
>>1329411 Marx's theories about labor value have empirical proof, you are against scientific facts. The workers are alienated from their labor power because capitalists expropriate the fruits of their labor. Contradictions in capitalism cause cycles of crisis and a tendency for the rate of profit to fall. It makes capitalism unsustainable. You have to read Marx if you want to know more. Prices are not based on what people are willing to pay. A car vendor will not sell a car for what ever you are willing to pay. That's why you can't buy a nice car for the same price as a bushel of weed. For Marx it is obvious that the workers should own the factories they have build. (All the worker should own all the factories collectively as a society, Capitalists should become workers to end the conflict between classes). The ideological fight between Marx and the bourgeoisie is not just about the ownership of the means of production. Marx wants that indirect accounting with money is switched to direct accounting with resources and the duration people work. Op is gossiping about Marx's life because he is ignorant about Marx's economic theories.
In today's episode of "Guess the Fallacy"...

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Alek Minassian Anonymous 03/03/2021 (Wed) 22:19:38 No. 1327355 [Reply]
Was he a deep-state actor?
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>>1327355 He was literally just a retard who got caught up in the idea of Incels as a pseudopolitical movement, he'd have joined the military to "kill me some A-rabs" if he had been born fifteen years earlier.
>>1327356 He had aspergers and used a failed insanity plea. Also friends with Elliot Rodger. He was just an incel.
These "incels" are prime revolutionary material, shame that porky has sabotaged the left so much that they get alienated from it Same with trannnies, instead of commiting suicide in their room and so on they hould detonate dirty bombs inside banks
>>1327416 >These "incels" are prime revolutionary material, shame that porky has sabotaged the left so much that they get alienated from it This, but the left can't hold their nose for 2 minutes to agitate incels, but throw countless resources at Nazis to "convert them". It's little surprise seeing how most of the left is just red painted liberals.
>>1327495 the only incels liberals wanna save are the nazi incels its a damn shame

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Anarcho-Break 03/18/2021 (Thu) 19:26:11 No. 1329508 [Reply]
>>1329380 >>1329099 >>1328431 >>1328512 >>1327614 Is lefty pol actually now full of racists? The absolute state of this site is unbelievable. If you are a leftist but you don't want equality. I'm sorry but please go back to /pol/ rightiod.
go back to twitter

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anarcho-break 02/28/2021 (Sun) 18:54:11 No. 1326517 [Reply] [Last]
Those nazis always say that the Jews rule the world... but little do they know...
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>>1328545 >>1328581 >having your feelings hurt because your meme has been spoofed Many such cases.
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>>1326965 >morally righteous I laughed out loud at this one. Thanks. >>1328557 see pic related
>>1328594 that's nice don't care
>>1326523 those fuckin mozzarella hands
>>1326517 Why do the Jews claim that antisemetism is like hating the Irish? Nobody hates the Irish. Are the Jews saying that antisemites would dislike the Irish in a hypothetical world in which the Irish have a lobby in Washington that is trying to start a war with Iran? I suppose, in such a world, I would dislike the Irish. Who wouldn't?

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Anonymous 03/02/2021 (Tue) 04:25:37 No. 1326951 [Reply]
Am I a hypocrite if I'm literally against capitalism but I invest in cryptocoins?
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>>1329218 Yeah it's true, mostly burger/bong stonks: <warning, article's author is painfully redditarded https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-31/karl-marx-also-liked-to-bet-against-the-stock-market/13106214
>>1326954 you are against capitalism yet you drink water?
>>1326951 We're all hypocrites, regardless of political philosophy (unless you are a psychopath). Hypocrisy is not a valid critique, when it comes to individuals existing within a system.
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>>1329399 >implying
>>1326951 Yes and also extremely dumb. If you go porky you go full porky and dont invest in childrens play money.

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Jim Profit is right. Anonymous 02/19/2021 (Fri) 05:26:05 No. 1323737 [Reply]
>gise Britfag. But you namedropped jim profit which most newfags wouldn't get so you're alright.
>>1323774 >Britfag Imagine being a burger.
>>1323928 Lyndon LaRouche does not approve of your language mister!
>>1329378 I'm calling the Venetian police on you, faggot.
>>1323774 Jim Profit is Jason Unruhe's brother.

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What's your idology and why? Anonymous 01/26/2021 (Tue) 22:48:12 No. 1308098 [Reply] [Last]
Preface: I want to get a better perspective on what sort of ideology's there are why people hold them and what sort of people hold them. So with that being said >What is the name of your ideology? >What principals do you hold? >Why do you hold those principals? >How old were you when you decided to adopt those principals? >What sort of profession do you hold? >what country do you come from and any other stuff that you think is relevant to your development of these ideas.

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>What is the name of your ideology? Anprim, I guess >What principals do you hold? Marxism, but I lost faith in the inherent contradictions shit. Or, to be more specific, I think that the only real inherent contradiction of capitalism that might bring it down is the one dealing with the environment. There won't be a revolution, but environmental collapse. The only good thing to come out of this would be the possibility of massive change in human culture. Mayhaps, post-collapse people will finally be able to find the solution. I believe none of us, pre-collapse, are able to do that. I'm kinda for "modernity bad, monke good" but I'm not dellusional, I'm only for it because I believe a global collapse wouldn't "reset" the world, as if history was ciclical or some other stupid shit. It would set a very important precedent for out future if we fucked up so bad. Only by abandoning modernity/capitalism enterily can we really be free to think of the future. >Why do you hold those principals? The power of the reproductive nature of capital was underestimated. No "human" crisis has been able to topple capitalism, nor I think there will be one in the future. Capital has adapted all too well to literally everything that posed any kind of threat. Yet, the planet will eventually give up on us. I think a "reset" would work because it wouldn't be a repeat of what happened at the birth of capitalism/modernity. Even though most people in the world are less educated than they ought, it's a million miles from the peasants and workers of the 15th through 19th century. In our world, Marx already exists, and so many others. We will be actually prepared when someone tried to pull some shit on us. To paraphrase Rousseau, when a man came and said "this is mine, that is yours", there won't be naivety or ignorance on the people's part. >How old were you when you decided to adopt those principals? 22 >What sort of profession do you hold? Student, history major >what country do you come from I'm south american
>What is the name of your ideology? Marxism-Leninism >What principals do you hold? Communism, national Liberation/self determination, Stalinist social policy, environmentalism but not at the cost of living standards, anti-imperialism, support for AES. >Why do you hold those principals? Material analysis and plenty of reading >How old were you when you decided to adopt those principals? Around 16 >What sort of profession do you hold? Students >what country do you come from Amerikkka
>>1312955 t. glowie
>>1320817 The nuclear family is overall a good aspect of society, the problem is when the children are left out of a local or national community, which is what happens under capitalism.
>>1322485 I don't think its correct necessarily to classify it as "socially conservative" either, Marxist social policy is unique. Marxist social policy in relation to feudal culture can be considered progressive, but in relation to bourgeoisie culture it is socially conservative, in reality it is neither and is based on material analysis, and it's goal is actual liberation.

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Bill Maher Is a CLOWN on China Anonymous 03/18/2021 (Thu) 02:14:55 No. 1329431 [Reply]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajic7L1k3ZQ Like this video for the algorithm, where I explain why Bill Maher is a CLOWN on China. Would greatly appreciate it if you could do this for me, comrades. Also, only 20 subscribers away from 1k. Show me some love!


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