/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>1802822
>but I have evidence and proof that the "rising of the moors" movement is based off sovereign city ideas

Ok? Yes one group of reactionary cranks was inspired by another group of reactionary cranks. Sovereign citizens are an amusing brand of delusional but thats it, dime a dozen nothing special ultimately

>>1802822
Sovcit logic makes a lot more sense when placed back into its original context of hardcore anti-Semitism. The idea is that there's a separate legal system that ignores all the commonplace laws and holds millions of dollars in your name works a lot better when you have "Jewish bankers secretly rule the world" as the how and why. The father of modern sovcit/free man woo in the U.S. is also Roger Elvick, who turned white nationalist libertarian ideas into an actual tax evasion plan that he sold in the 80s, although some of the ideas come from other fringe groups like LaRouchites.

Like it is true that it's literal crazy people/extremely gullible people believing bizarre things and overlaps with conspiracy theory wackiness, right-wing nonsense, and extreme libertarianism, but there's an underlying logic to it though in that they believe that there are magic words you can say to make the government do your bidding. The believe that they have obtained Forbidden Knowledge that allows them to bind the genie to their will, as it were. If you say the right things than the judge, police officer, government, authority, or whoever has no choice but to let you do whatever you please.

>Americanons, what do you think of the S.C movements
They're pretty funny to watch in court. Not sure why they think it's totally going to work this time in court when it didn't work last time they were arrested.
>and its applications for leftist militants
lol nothing

Like what some other anons said earlier, SovCits take the law-centric view of society and the state seriously instead of correctly seeing that it's a just thin ideological & rhetorical justification. Their mythology also includes a "pure" and absolute version of the "real law" that's still in effect (somehow?) centuries later and which is being hidden from the public because widespread knowledge of it would cause the state to just bend the knee or it will suddenly lose its authority, which is just pure idealist and almost platonic drivel.

So they try to counter the state using the dumb rhetoric they think it takes seriously and the "existence" of that "pure and eternal" "law" that the state still has to abide by. So how does this praxis look like? Well they just use magic words and sequences of these words as legal arguments in the framework of that eternal law as some sort of IRL cheat codes that supposedly would cause the actually-existing courts to release and acquit them.

Also may I just remind you that the real law they take seriously and abide by is the Magna Carta and the US Constitution (without the amendments)? Obviously not very socialist or even anti-state, really.
They're honestly the biggest proof that no matter how "anti-establishment" and "anti-system" lolberts and rightoids say they are, they will always be spooked one way or another.

>>1802838
lumpen consciousness

>>1797455
>anarchists reject "government"
shut up idiot

>>1803793
remind me to post a picture of the local anarchists having a sticker which literally says "abolish all governments" on here later

>>1797455
You're overthinking it, its entire point is deconverting Ancraps and getting them to question their retarded dogma on what they think capitalism is.
>these people didn't read Capital, I can already tell
Duh.
>C4SS are glowies
If they are, then they're doing a terrible job at spreading anticommunism, since most of their essays critique ancraps and lolberts.
>why don't these people just come out as ancaps?
Majority are ancraps going through deconversion therapy. They still haven't let go of market fantasies. But they're beggining to realise that capitalism is causing all their issues.
>these clowns reject "government" while proposing that the regulating force of the market should control society, which is a form of government!
They don't think of markets from a Marxist perspective, they see it mostly as commodity exchanges between people.
>how can someone believe this when all evidence points to the opposite? the fact that wealth thermalizes is a key finding of econophysics
As written they are still infected by radlib shit. They write shit like 'let the free market eat the rich' and it's usually through the lenses of countereconomic action in order to compromise the big players. They don't see the long term issues of such a model.
>HOW HISTORICALLY ILLITERATE ARE THESE PEOPLE?
Very.
>this is just ancap shit. who enforces these contracts?
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>>1804178
And another thing to note about these proclaimed left market anarchists, is that a lot of them I've come to realise aren't even hard on Proudhonians, They still cling onto the idea of property through rebranding it as 'personal property' while most proclaimed mutualists use the term possesion through usufruct.

I'm not endorsing this shit. Just showing the way they process information. They haven't got a clue about what dialectics is at that stage yet.

>>1803618
>Can any one of you explain why Poles should entertain communism as a serious solution to the evils of capitalism

The production of worldviews is not a linear topic as if we propose your 'morality' as our eternal mediator to take place in and resolve things. Perhaps there is no objective 'evil' to talk about, but dialectical unities and disunities in the history.

>All the arrests, deportations and murders of intellectuals, artists, journalists, political figures, clergymen, military personnel, et cetera. The undemocratic imposition of socialism on Poland, the shutting down of dissidents, and so on.

Democracy is a hollow phrase that the libs glorify as an end of the state form while the state and its mechanisms itself is an authority, an imposed will in its own.

Read
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/10/authority.htm

>violently sperging out against a nation, its culture and identity, and therefore its proletariat.

The culture and identity will be erased, no exceptions, itz kill or be killed mein friend and we were distressed bolsheviki surrounded by polish philistines.

communism is when a single bourgeois nation-state invades another, duh

>>1803846
Excellent work, comrades. Another victory against the eternal Poolack!

>>1803843
I don't think that's quite true, and Gursztyn is precisely the sort I mean when I talk about the generation who lived through only the end of the PRL and have been in charge since.

>>1803618
>wahwah muh evil soviets
you need to go back
and kill yourself while you're at it, we have 0 interest in entertaining reactionary fucks like you that just look for an excuse to suck their porkies cock

>>1774205
Nah

>>1771851
>Obviously if you want to be 100% ecological then its human extinction.
Nah. Humans intelligently managing the ecosystem would be better than us disappearing after all the damage we've caused.

>>1771748
One of the benefits of getting rid of capitalism is we can invest research into sustainable and biodegradable or recyclable materials that just aren't profitable and therefore of no interest under capitalism.

>>1774103
>The primary focus of the Soviet Union was industrialization, ecology came at last place
sure. but the main point is that the situation we now find ourselves in will require marshalling the sum total of the human species to rectify. this task will require far more coordination and labour input than the second world war. so far there is nothing in the anarchist camp that comes close to addressing the issue, beyond piecemeal nonsense like >>1773976 or smallholder farming or whatever else flavour of the week
>>1781911
>Humans intelligently managing the ecosystem would be better than us disappearing after all the damage we've caused.
this. appeal to nature is a common fallacy. nature is a cruel and shitty control system

>>1773976
Insane levels of based on display

>>1803514
let's see the Israelis green the Antarctic
actually that might happen by itself in another couple of hundred years of climate change

>>1803514
Idk how to fat lesbians will block the whole sea but I approve.

>>1803641
Fat people have plenty of blubber to enable them to float. I'm sure if they just join hands and form a line they can easily block access through the sea route.

>>1803660
Hmm that makes sense, I guess it takes a lot of determination too and lesbians tend to be stubborn and less passive.

>>1803484
>>1797920
deranged

>>1767361
giving a shit has only made me a reclusive paranoid hollow husk of a man

>>1766911
The rate of profit can't be measured like this, and inflation doesn't exist. All we have to do is make the state print money forever, this will induce demand for goods and services, increasing employment and benefiting everybody.

>>1803508
certified socdem classic

>>1767331
Yeah this graph is perfect.

>>1767361
How can you tell? The x-axis is not labelled.

>>1799356
The issues being that the masses are not the main target of mass surveillance. The state has other tools for that. And it is not likely that 90% of the population is going to simultaneously rise up in revolt.

>>1799504
>And it is not likely that 90% of the population is going to simultaneously rise up in revolt
I never even remotely suggested this. You've either misunderstood me, or put words in my mouth. You are also quite unfortunately unspecific about which population you're talking about. What of the populations in Chile, in China, in Cuba, Nicaragua, Iran… Do I need to elaborate further? Every successful revolution is ultimately a revolution of the masses.

>>1799532
Sorry, assuming you were arguing in good faith and simply misunderstood, a population "simultaneously" rising up in revolt is not only a gross mischaracterization of historical revolutions (such as the ones I've mentioned above), it is patently un-marxist, like he literally never even implied that. No serious Marxist ever has. That's a Hollywood idea of what a revolution is.

>>1797964
Idiotic response. I have to confess my eyes glazed over it.

>>1798632
>The ex-junkie at my job understands the master-slave dialectic better than y'all
Many roads lead to rome

Prosecute a Cop? You’ll Face Removal From Office
Two unions representing police and state troopers in Minnesota wrote a letter to Gov. Tim Walz last friday. An elected prosecutor in Hennepin County, which includes Minneapolis, was prosecuting one of their own, and they wanted her removed from the case — immediately.
https://theintercept.com/2024/03/22/mary-moriarty-minnesota-reform-police-union-removal/
https://archive.is/o9zTN

North Carolina court rules landlord had no repair duty before explosion
In the majority opinion that sided with then-Durham County Superior Court Judge Orlando Hudson’s ruling to dismiss Terry’s lawsuit, Associate Justice Tamara Barringer said that the common law created no duty for a landlord to inspect a leased property. Lucas hadn’t inspected the furnace or and other portion of the property since Terry and his family occupied it, she wrote. Terry’s wife signed a lease for the home in the mid-2000s.
https://apnews.com/article/north-carolina-landlord-tenant-explosion-supreme-court-37356107c0041838346424786afdb103

Texas troops clash with migrants over barbed-wire breach at US border
A group of migrants clashed with Texas national guard troops over a breach of barbed wire fencing in El Paso on Thursday as they waited to turn themselves in to federal border agents – underscoring the power struggle between the state and federal government over immigration law enforcement.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/22/texas-troops-clash-migrants-border-el-paso

FBI: Alaska Airlines passengers may be victims of a crime after Boeing blowout
The Justice Department investigation adds to the legal peril Boeing is facing. The company also is the subject of ongoing probes by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB).
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From Ang Bayan: Women Bear Half The Imperialist Sky
Filipino women bear the worst effects of the neo-liberal policies imposed by US imperialism and its puppet state in the past four decades. Due to policies of liberalization, deregulation and privatization, they are further marginalized to the fringes of society, where they are forced to endure informal, insecure and jobs with slave-like wages. The majority of women belong to the most exploited and oppressed sectors of society—workers, farmers and indigenous people, the rural and urban poor. In the past decade, more than half of them, age 15 and older, have not been counted as part of the labor force because of the nature of the jobs they perform. Among them are the millions of housewives who engage in farm work and accept “sideline” jobs while burdened with heavy housework and childcare. In 2022, about 20 million were excluded from the labor force, unemployed and underemployed.
https://www.redspark.nu/en/peoples-war/from-ang-bayan-women-bear-half-the-imperialist-sky/

As VP Harris Visits Puerto Rico, Puerto Ricans Call for End to US Colonialism
Vice President Kamala Harris is on her way to Puerto Rico, which is marking two historic events this week: the abolition of slavery and a United States-backed massacre that left 21 Puerto Ricans dead. … On March 21, 1937, Puerto Rican nationalists assembled for a peaceful march on Palm Sunday in the city of Ponce to commemorate the abolition of slavery and protest the imprisonment of their leader, Pedro Albizu Campos. Like the FBI’s J. Edgar Hoover, then U.S.-appointed Gov. Blanton Winship saw Puerto Rican independence activists and groups as a threat to U.S. economic and military control of the island. On his watch, local police fired at and brutalized the marchers, with 21 killed, nearly all civilians, and 200 wounded. A U.S. commission found that Winship lied about marchers initiating the violence, but he was never prosecuted for that or for reportedly ordering the Ponce massacre. The violence of white supremacy and its iterations today, and the violence against pro-independence advocates have been constants, whether under Spanish or U.S. rule.
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Thanks News Anon

World's largest democracy, btw

I grade this as 100. This source even tackles controversial questions, like: Are lawyers, doctors, government officials, etc. petty-bourgeois? Their high, excess incomes allow them to accumulate capital. The Canadian Institute of Economics has a more complete grasp of proletarian consciousness than this website.

Who is Petty Bourgeoisie?
In the Manifesto of the Communist Party, Marx described the petty bourgeoisie as:

. . . fluctuating between proletariat and bourgeoisie, and ever renewing itself as a supplementary part of bourgeois society. . . The individual members of this class, however, are being constantly hurled down into the proletariat by the action of competition, and, as modern industry develops, they even see the moment approaching when they will completely disappear as an independent section of modern society, to be replaced in manufactures, agriculture and commerce, by overlookers, bailiffs and shopmen.

The petty bourgeois class includes:
– intellectuals
– scientists
– small business owners
– handicraftsmen
– doctors
– lawyers
– civil servants
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>>1801344
>and nobody cares, right?
What are you talking about BDS is a large campaign.

>>1801344
>you know there are more blatant and well-known cases and nobody cares, right?
>nobody cares
Top 3 hasabra talking point right there. Sure bro, nobody cares about anything. This >>1801274 is sus af also.

>>1801315
Spar is upset about the Hungarian government: https://dailynewshungary.com/popular-international-food-chain-flees-hungary-due-to-pm-orban-and-his-oligarchs/

If you are applying at a European company for a job and they ask you about the gap in your CV ask them about the gap in their company history from 1933 to 1945.

Sure, the Nazi shit was bad, but what's just as bad is the Marshall Plan just handed back these corporations to their owners. Like, imagine if somebody is trying to kill you, you fight them and win, then give them your stuff back. It makes no sense.