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Obesity Epidemic Anonymous 03/08/2021 (Mon) 16:55:23 No. 1328114 [Reply]
One of the worst excesses of capitalism IMO. Attached is a very informative and interesting book on the nature of hunger and satiety, and how the processed food industry fucks up people's brains for profit. We specially engineer our food to turn people into hamplanets, creating millions of dollars of medical bills down the line to sell fucking $2 bags of Doritos. What an efficient system we have.
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>>1328192 >So why are the capitalists with large advertising campaigns successful? Successful capitalists can afford large advertising campaigns.
>>1328150 If my enemy is doing all the hard work of wiping themselves out for me , then I feel no obligation to stop them.
>>1328200 Most of the time the generic product and the name brand product are made at the same factory by the same machines and use the same ingredients , the only difference is you are paying extra for a fancy packet and the supposed prestige of eating the so called 'premium' version. spoiler: it isn't premium, it is the same. And by the time it gets to the table as part of your dinner the tin will be nowhere in sight. It is just petite bourgeoisie and lumpen pretentiousness that makes people waste money on fancy labels
>>1329197 This anon is right. Trader Joe's in the US is a great example of this. My gf comes home every week from there and gives me a presentation of what she got. I personally don't give a fuck if the plantain chips have cute monkeys on the bag, but she really does.
>>1329197 Not always true, sometimes there is a clear difference in tastes, like with hot chocolate powder, tough different doesn't necessarily mean better.

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Fluoride Conspiracy Spreads to Canada Anonymous 02/04/2021 (Thu) 03:15:59 No. 1314743 [Reply] [Last]
https://globalnews.ca/news/7613513/calgary-city-council-fluoride-plebiscite-2021/ >On Monday, Calgary city council voted 10-4 in favour of a plebiscite on fluoride. >The question Calgarians will be answering in the October municipal election: are you in favour of reintroducing fluoridation of the municipal water supply? It's insane that a local government would seriously consider removing fluoride from water. I fucking hate Q Anon Conspiracy theory bullshit. It's like it's designed to discredit actual conspiracies like Operation Mockingbird or the Business Plot. If Jason Kenney stays in 2023, i'm moving out.
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>>1329077 Such is life. Until and unless we can get poor kidz out in da stix the ability to see a dentist on the regular without going bankrupt, it's apparently the best we can do.
>>1329078 >Such is life. Until and unless we can get poor kidz out in da stix the ability to see a dentist on the regular without going bankrupt, it's apparently the best we can do. This is your brain on fluoride.
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>>1329079 Nah, it's my brain on living in a country that refuses to build a functioning universal health system 80 years after everyone else did.
>>1329080 But you can just buy toothpaste with fluoride or decide not to do that, depending on how your teeth look. Just don't eat it. I once saw a cookie recipe in a British magazine making use of toothpaste. I wish I were joking.
>>1329165 Sure, I can, but many won't.

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News 3/13/21 News Anon 3.0 03/13/2021 (Sat) 19:15:59 No. 1328825 [Reply]
Bolivia’s former interim president Jeanine Anez arrested over 2019 coup Anez's arrest warrant was issued by a court on Friday and was executed on Saturday morning, Minister of Government Carlos del Castillo announced on Twitter. He hailed the development as a step forward in giving the Bolivian people the justice they deserve. Bolivian media showed images of the politician being taken into custody. https://on.rt.com/b3oz China, Iran, North Korea seek support at U.N. to push back against unilateral force, sanctions The move by 16 countries and the Palestinians to create such a group comes as U.S. President Joe Biden’s new administration boosts its multilateral engagement and with allies, reversing former President Donald Trump’s favored unilateral approach as he focused on an “America First” policy. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-usa-un/china-iran-north-korea-seek-support-at-u-n-to-push-back-against-unilateral-force-sanctions-idUSKBN2B335J Turkey continues to use water as a weapon in Northern and Eastern Syria The occupying Turkish state continues to carry out hostile policies against the peoples of Northern and Eastern Syria. One of these policies is to use water as a weapon. Turkey reduces the dam water and this poses a threat to the agricultural areas around the Euphrates River. https://anfenglish.com/rojava-syria/turkey-continues-to-use-water-as-a-weapon-in-northern-and-eastern-syria-50604 Israeli settlers attack Palestinian family in West Bank farmland Israeli settlers, some masked and equipped with batons, attacked a Palestinian family in the South Hebron Hills on Saturday as they were working on their plot of land near an illegal Israeli settlement. According to Israeli rights group B'Tselem, some 10 settlers attacked the Alyan family on Saturday morning near the settlement of Mitzpe Yair. https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/palestine-israeli-settler-attack-family-south-hebron-hills Sinn Féin calls Boris Johnson's visit to Northern Ireland publicity stunt

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>>1329003 >They only managed to beat the coup through direct action - manifestations, blockades, strikes And votes ! Had they not won the election they would not have won power. And reformism was never opposed to protests and strikes.
>>1328860 Strangely, the doublethink doesn't seem to manifest around modern Russia and its satellites, and most LARPers seem capable of sticking to ACTUALLY CRITICAL support. So far as I've noticed, it's only when it's either a regime that labels itself ML, or it's a tiny irrelevant shithole (of literally any stated ideology), that the brainworms manifest, and anons start getting banned by MTW jannies for voicing even the most banal criticisms of the regime or support for any domestic leftists that aren't rubber stamps for the regime. >>1329003 >reformism isn't enough, you need dual power That is the only pragmatic stance: Direct action isn't enough, parliamentary politics isn't enough, only the combination of both strengthening each other will work.
>>1329009 Reformism is strictly opposed to direct action and dual power due to it's need for State legitimacy. The coup happened through the same State mechanism as the ones Moralez used to attain power. It's unreliable to focus so much into a bourgie system of governance
>>1329052 >That is the only pragmatic stance: Direct action isn't enough, parliamentary politics isn't enough, only the combination of both strengthening each other will work. None of these things "work". What works is properly analysing ones surroudings and then making a move based on them. Venezuala's goverment has lost a lot of it's support and legitimacy because it refused to deal directly with it's horrible national legacy of corruption and oligarchies. All because it would have illegal to do so, they have stained socialism in Latin america irreversably. Ironically what would have saved them is being every bit as tyranical as the imperialists make them out to be, no amount of dual power and parliamentarism has helped them. >So far as I've noticed, it's only when it's either a regime that labels itself ML, or it's a tiny irrelevant shithole (of literally any stated ideology), that the brainworms manifest, and anons start getting banned by MTW jannies for voicing even the most banal criticisms of the regime or support for any domestic leftists that aren't rubber stamps for the regime. Fuck off, the only imperialism worth talking about is american due to how genuinely monstrous it is. Obviously Russia and China should be opposed for one being a Union of nostalgic wife beaters and the other being terribly anti social with boomer characteristics and both being imperialist (although their imperialism has indeed developed their subjects). But the americans have a grand monopoly on imperial prospects with it's ability to make the world economy bend to it's will and sanction/coup anyone that seeks nominal sovereignty, they can destroy entire movements by simply not liking them. The focus at this moment should be the destruction of any offensive capabilities, we can't even talk about socialism when the average person is far more concerned with not being bombed by drones
>>1329115 >Reformism is strictly opposed to direct action and dual power Well the facts prove you wrong, as they used direct action AND representative democracy both. >The coup happened through the same State mechanism as the ones Moralez used to attain power. No ? Morales got elected into power. Anez wasn't. >It's unreliable Obviously. Nothing is reliable in politics. Armed uprisings aren't reliable either. All in all you're completely wrong.

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Anonymous 03/15/2021 (Mon) 22:41:32 No. 1329155 [Reply]
Happy Birthday Ruth!

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idpol children btfo of Communist Party of Ireland Anonymous 02/10/2021 (Wed) 00:51:43 No. 1319837 [Reply]
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>>1319837 the irrelevant party gets mad at another irrelevant party
>>1320546 Pffft Empire of Gender are like so passé. Everybody is listening to Lenin's Epic Sexworker Genocide now or Vuvuzela-Iphone-Factory-Suicide-Net-Removal Gang.
>>1320590 at least in media, and with many aspects of capitalism, perhaps. here in the U.S. i've seen fewer examples of this in a real local level unless you consider neighborhoods changing to be a grand glowie IDPOL conspiracy check out what a real glowie has to say about the dirty people she rules over https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGx181q2cqA
This should occur way more often.
>>1320543 >>1320543 >The Venn diagram for breadtube fans and CYM fans is a circle. just proves you have no clue what you are talking about

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Where does one find writings by Glushkov? Anonymous 03/15/2021 (Mon) 20:19:49 No. 1329135 [Reply]
I want to read some primary source material on OGAS and other proposals for cybernetic planning in the USSR (or in other countries if that existed) and I thought glushkov would be a cool place to start. I haven't found anything he has written in English yet, can some of you anons help me out?
>>1329135 there are better ways to spend your time than glushkov if you're interested, hit the book on leontief and kantorovich

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Anonymous 03/13/2021 (Sat) 22:17:20 No. 1328846 [Reply]
I'm halfway through the list and all I can say is it just made me depressed and even more pessimistic about the world. Is there really no collective solution anymore? Is it it that the only thing we can do is to turn inward and forget about the rest of people? This seems to be a nihilistic position, but I can't refute it no matter how much time I spend considering it. Help me, /leftypol/.
yeah shit sucks but if you like reading depressing books read the technological society by jacques ellul. surprised it doesnt get talked about more

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Anonymous 03/14/2021 (Sun) 17:28:26 No. 1328964 [Reply]
All the banks and major corporations had to do to pacify the left was wave a couple of rainbow flags.
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We shouldn't give too much credence to the narratives, or believe that the propaganda alone has this great persuasive effect. It only works in tandem with ruthlessly rooting out any sign of dissent. Neoliberalism has always been predicated on a vast police state and all the mechanisms necessary for that to work. There is a reason why neoliberals obsess over perfect information and computerization. Setting up the scenario where rebellious people are convinced that playing dead in the street is some sort of protest, was a long-run mindfuck that began many decades ago. That said, there is something to be said about the fecklessness of many left organizations, and these tactics aren't merely working from the sheer power exerted from above. There is something in the base of left formations that is being exploited, or leading to the same cycle of failure we've become used to. The ritual we saw in June/July where protestors would be kettled in what are pretty useless demonstrations should have been seen for the failure that it was, but there wasn't the basis for something bigger - not that there wasn't desire, because people are still very very pissed and angry about the state of affairs at the moment. That all said, LGBTetc. was never a vehicle for any sort of revolutionary change. The initial conflicts over the gay question that made any impression upon people was the question of basic human rights like not being imprisoned or killed arbitrarily, and ultimately how many ordinary people were that zealous about hunting down the homosexual? The initial pogroms were carried out by a vocal minority, who were empowered by the state for the state's own reasons. So much of the modern "LGBT" discourse is not about liberation, but about pigeonholing a segment of sexual deviants and making sure they stay in their lane so to speak. It stopped being about any civil or human rights, and about normalizing and impressing on people certain psychological associations. On the side, the ruling powers have given low-key support for those who are the most hostile to the gay/etc. population, and have normalized the kind of hypersexual rhetoric we see on /pol that is dripping with obsession. So the left is caught in a no-win situation that is engineered against them. Many on the left are gay, or sympathetic to gay people, but they are convinced that to support gay people, they must adhere to a very narrowly prescribed and permitted notion of what that support means, and that narrative - supplied by often the most reactionary ruling class elements - is used to browbeat and dictate the terms of what the discourse is going to be. That's why you're seeing stuff like Breadtube immediately going to "transphobia" as a way to attack anyone who isn't in line with their narrow political agenda, especially those Breadtubers who are giving support to the imperial project. None of it is honest, but the image of "progress" has been impressed on people as something inextricably linked to the empire. If you support gay rights, you support Biden's austerity, and if you oppose Biden's austerity, you're just homophobic or clinging to your guns or any other canned slander against your character, even if your argument has nothing to do with any sexual politics. It's become purely a psychological trigger to utilize, to turn discourse into the utterance of pre-planned narratives and discourage any meaningful conversation about any sensitive topic. Then, the list of "forbidden" topics grows and grows, as it has for the past two decades. The internet has been a great proving ground for these tactics of narrative control (and it should be remembered, much of the population does not participate in any of this internet banter, but gets their discourse second- or third-hand).
>>1329004 Those places do deplatform right-wingers, they are just not that good at it. And as for the police supporting right-wingers, protests of the last years and how they have treated the Proud Boys show this to be a one sided relationship. Have any antifa lost their bank accounts, or gone to jail fot defending themselves, of course not. They were barely keep in jail for a day after looting and burning down houses
>>1329010 >>1329004 You imagine a difference, far greater than what is the case
what left. WHAT LEFT. Even before that type of virtue signaling become widespread, the """"left""""" has been dead for decades. Occupy was a complete failure. there was nothing to pacify, because it never existed
>>1329067 You imagine a unity, far greater than what is the case

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THE 80S Anonymous 01/28/2021 (Thu) 18:42:43 No. 1309815 [Reply] [Last]
Explain to me Why do most people generate a nostalgia for the 80s? Was it really the peak of human existence? Because despite all the cultural achievments at that time,it didnt really seem like a peaceful period,same thing could be said about the 00s
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GTA games before them 80s were seen as faggy modern talking times
gen x is old enough to totter away and reminisce is all
>>1309841 Idk man there's this meme that says that if the comment section of an 80s song is mostly russian, then you know it's a great song. https://youtu.be/xdEyZ3-OjU8

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Anonymous 03/15/2021 (Mon) 15:44:11 No. 1329100 [Reply]
ITS OVER, BUNKERCHAN BROS WE ARE OFFICIALLY DECLARED AS SINNERS
>>1329100 Go back to /pol/ faggot I don't like suck nuts

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