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Leftist antisemitism Anonymous 04/10/2021 (Sat) 12:33:48 No. 1333248 [Reply]
Are there anti-semetic leftists on here? I am not from here and wondered, whether the aspect of the influence of the jews is a matter of dissent or if you here all agree on something. Pic unrelated
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>>1333264 no you're a liar (and a janny) in the other board it doesn't get deleted
>>1333265 What other board?
>>1333265 You're a liar, and a salty exiled janny.
>>1333271 Lmao as if you aren't a mod on .org too >>1333265 Funnily enough, the moment this was posted, the thread on .org got locked and moved to /b
>>1333277 >Lmao as if you aren't a mod on .org too I'm not though.

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Anonymous 03/27/2021 (Sat) 13:19:22 No. 1331129 [Reply] [Last]
Reminder the New Left project was a psyop to navigate the American Left away from Soviet Communism and many of the founding thinkers were Frankfurt School ""socialists"" who came to America and worked with the OSS/CIA to disseminate anti-Soviet though among university students. Everything you see wrong with the left today is a direct result of this nearly hundred year long project. The idiots you see on twitter obsessed with idpol didn't consciously decide to be retards, they've been conditioned.
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It's true. The New Left was a psyop. The Soviet Union was still objectively shit, and anti-IDpol is a current day psyop. Both IDpol and anti-IDpol are neoliberalism.
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>>1332597 This remains a piss poor argument honestly. It's the same sort of thing that openly ignores how there were marxists and socialists within the US Government and affiliatied associations (within academia, labor organizations, art world, etc.) throughout the 60s. Arguments like "he was in part funded by small entity related to the state therefore he was a conscious CIA psy-op and all related writings are by default bad" is so fucking simplistic that it amounts to the complete rejection of any historical thinking whatsoever. That, perhaps, there was once an incredibly strong belief that you could utilize state power in order to aid the left is in this view completely brushed aside as "well actually it was manipulated by the Omnipotent State from the get go, it was all a master plan" just completely ignores deeper, more complicated ideological and material circumstances, propping up instead this wholly reactionary scorched earth approach. It's so fucking stupid that it makes my blood boil. This is of course even intensified by the basic fact of how incredibly different Marcuse's own work is from the New Left movement---which, posts like this always seem to fucking forget, was never once a single ideological entity (this was part of its whole fucking failure, especially in France). Not to mention it just decides to completely ignore the basic historical fact of the emergence of the neoliberal individualist identity, which was just first emerging at all during Marcuse's time and could not be even wholly considered as a new concept, could have fucking never have been predicted to have been ultimately utilized against itself. This sort of historical determinism much of these posts take is beyond insulting to any decently learned historian, and is even more insulting to the basic idea of being a marxist at all. Fuck you. You're a fucking dumbass. And none of this is even to say that Marcuse's own work is perfect, for fuck sake, but god critique it on the level of his own writing rather than this imaginary spectre that's been propped up around him. It's like the left-wing version of Cultural Marxism. It's so fucking inane and ahistorical, and serves nobody except porky.
>>1332801 And as I read more and more of One-Dimensional Man the more I'm so thoroughly convinced of how the left wing Anti-Marcuse League is just proof to MLism having completely lost its Marxist character. The entire work is focused on how the rise of automation is leading to deep problems for the typical marxist approach to consciousness-raising, as the increasing unity between private and state entities in the form of the bureaucratic welfare state has significantly altered how the working classes relate to labor, and how these dimensions were affecting the third world, whose combination of hyper-industrialization plus neo-colonial ideology that created an increasing divide between pre-industrial indigenous life and the small class of those who were able to become thoroughly westernized should prompt serious doubt against the hooplah-wave of Thirdworldism that was spreading in the west. And so on. There's nothing within it that smacks of "This is actually CIA propaganda to undermine the left" as much as the first of many many subsequent thinkers who realized that the Old Left was no longer able to properly respond to the new economic world the west had entered, which of course has remained so fucking trenchantly true. Its deep critique of Stalinism is, at this point, the most serious issue anyone could have of him (despite his critique and predictions--namely that the Soviet State's promise to increasingly liberalize production is false, and that if it does occur it will completely undermine its actual function---being completely correct in retrospect). Like I thought people here fucking read, but nonsense threads like these that will automatically reject anything that even remotely smells of liberalism represent the most backward-thinking left romanticism of Pure Unfiltered Marxism (which has never existed). It makes me so fucking furious. Is nobody here forward thinking? Is nobody here actually willing to deal with the subtleties of ideology and history? Are you all just searching for the most simplistic explanations that can intensify your undying belief of "good v evil" moralist spooks that Marx himself had denounced over a century ago?
Proof? Everyone was infiltrated by the FBI and the FBI did its damage to everyone, even Bolsheviks.
Maybe an unflinchingly and uncompromisingly conservative socialism isn't such a bad idea after all.

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Age of Empires told us everything about their plan Anonymous 04/10/2021 (Sat) 18:13:10 No. 1333266 [Reply]
>ridiculously low population limit >limited resources >life doesn't regrow >kill people just pressing del >culling the peasants to make more troops I wonder who could be behind this game
>>1333266 inb4 a brainlet janny move this to /games/

Anonymous 04/10/2021 (Sat) 02:52:20 No. 1333228 [Reply]
that moment when you're gonna write 50 paragraphs about your deep loss but decide not to how are you doing? Are you okay? I ​love you Mod Edit: This is also now a wholesome support thread for anons.
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>>1333228 OP. Times are extremely tough. I hope you have friends or comrades irl that can help you go through your loss. There is only so much anons can do on this board. Know that the countless billiions of the wretched of the earth know or are familiar with your pain and loss. You are not alone and that together the burgeoning worker's movement whereever it exists around the world is being nurtured, and it can be freed with you and the contribution of others. Stay strong.
>>1333229 All my friends are online and isolated. I know what I have to do, and I'll have to do it alone, unfortunately. Thank you though. I know my chances of living are high, I just have so much to do
>>1333232 I understand. In the future then, find the people necessary so that you don't have to face these things alone. Solidarity is everything in these times.
in a few years, I will flee to a commune in a neighboring country with a few friends. The shithole I live in can be as fascist as it fucking likes, and it won't be my problem in the slightest.
Everything is going to be daijobou

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This is why they HATE the Auschwitz pill meme Anonymous 04/10/2021 (Sat) 15:43:25 No. 1333258 [Reply]
"Capitalisms notorious contradictions have been sublated at the commanding heights of the economy in a manner precisely described by Marx as potential. There are some propagandists out there mostly working for Chinese Communist Party who labour to confuse people about this. They are targeting young people who hate 'capitalism' as an abstraction but dont understand it too well and also hate the status quo. Now they have them inured to fragmenting reifying mental habits that lead them to desire the state/caste provisioning them like the bred rabbits in watership down. Tney think the US state the federal government simply magically has an infinite supply of everything they need and want to give them. They dont want to know where the federal gov gets the coffee the oil the electricity they expect it to provide them. They want to be the priestly caste retained by the billionaires. They are willing to settle for a modest élite standard of living, they dont need the billionaire luxuries, but they want the sake security and leisure the Billz have from the same slaves."

News 4/9/21 News Anon 3.0 04/09/2021 (Fri) 20:20:55 No. 1333193 [Reply]
It's A No: Amazon Warehouse Workers Vote Against Unionizing In Historic Election The majority of Amazon's workers in Bessemer, Ala., voted against joining the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union. The final tally was 1,798 votes against unionizing versus 738 votes in favor of union. That means Amazon has withstood the largest union push yet among its U.S. workers and avoided the prospect of its first unionized warehouse in America. Nearly 5,900 people work at Amazon's Bessemer facility and more than half cast ballots in the election. https://www.npr.org/2021/04/09/982139494/its-a-no-amazon-warehouse-workers-vote-against-unionizing-in-historic-election 'Made of plastic': Cleaning up Bolivia's Uru Uru lake “It’s a shame that so much garbage has come here because it has accumulated in many years, perhaps a decade. Now we have to think about the future. Let’s clean and then we become aware so that we don’t have to clean again,” he said. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-bolivia-environment-idUSKBN2BV2CO Vigils to be held this weekend to mark two years since Assange's arrest Vigils are being held on Sunday by campaigners outside Belmarsh in south-east London, and the Ecuadorian embassy, where Mr Assange spent seven years before he was dragged out by British police in 2019. Supporters will call for his release. https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/b/vigils-to-be-held-this-weekend-to-mark-two-years-since-assange-arrest Chinese navy ships chase Philippine news crew in South China Sea as US, Manila express concern The PLA Navy deployed two vessels carrying missiles to drive away the boat ferrying the news team as it travelled across reefs in Palawan US Secretary of State Blinken and his Philippine counterpart Locsin expressed their concerns about Chinese militia vessels in the Whitsun Reef https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/3128908/chinese-navy-ships-chase-philippine-news-crew-south-china Iran nuclear talks to continue next week after breakthrough

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Amazon accused of ‘illegal tactics’ and intimidation after unionisation ballot AMAZON was accused today of bulllying and intimidating its staff and using “illegal tactics” after the Retail, Wholesale & Department Store Union (RWDSU) failed in its bid for union recognition in an Alabama warehouse. https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/w/amazon-accused-illegal-tactics-and-intimidation-after-unionisation-ballot-waiting Steelworkers nearing end of second week of strike at ATI The strike is taking place at nine mills in five states. In addition to the Louisville, Ohio and Waterbury, Connecticut plants, workers are also on strike at mills in Lockport, New York; New Bedford, Massachusetts and five Pennsylvania facilities—Brackenridge, Latrobe, Natrona Heights, Vandergrift and Washington. https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/04/09/ati-a09.html Congress Urged to Reject Biden's 'Unconscionable' $715 Billion Pentagon Budget President Joe Biden on Friday is reportedly expected to request a $715 billion budget for the Pentagon for fiscal year 2022, a slight increase from the previous year and a far cry from the substantial reduction that progressive lawmakers and advocacy groups are demanding. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/04/09/congress-urged-reject-bidens-unconscionable-715-billion-pentagon-budget Kentucky limits no-knock warrants after Breonna Taylor death Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear signed a partial ban on no-knock warrants Friday after months of demonstrations set off by the fatal shooting of Breonna Taylor in her home during a botched police raid last year. https://apnews.com/article/breonna-taylor-legislature-shootings-kentucky-crime-d8e382606205d0ae6808fec4224baa69 Fort Lauderdale police accused of excessive force felt threatened after seeing 'Star Trek' props: suit

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Amazon Waged a Brutal Anti-Union Campaign. Unsurprisingly, They Won. Amazon has secured a majority of “no” votes from workers at BHM1, the company’s Bessemer, Alabama warehouse, on the question of unionizing with the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union (RWDSU). The National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) received 3,215 mail-in ballots in an election in which around 5,800 workers were eligible to vote. Were they to unionize, these workers would have become the first unionized Amazon employees in the United States. Before the public vote count began yesterday, 505 votes were contested in closed-door proceedings. According to RWDSU, most of the challenges were from Amazon, suggesting those votes favor the union. But even accounting for these ballots, the company has secured enough votes to win the count. Of the non-challenged ballots, 1,798 were against the union, while 738 were in support. After the tally, both Amazon and RWDSU can file objections with the regional director of the NLRB over the other side’s conduct during the election process, or appeal the ruling to the NLRB in Washington, DC. This morning, RWDSU announced that it will do so. The union says that it “will request that the NLRB Regional Director schedule a hearing on its objections to determine if the results of the election should be set aside because conduct by the employer created an atmosphere of confusion, coercion and/or fear of reprisals and thus interfered with the employees’ freedom of choice.” It will also present evidence for a related unfair labor practice complaint, alleging that Amazon unlawfully interfered with the protected right of employees to engage in union activity. “We won’t let Amazon’s lies, deception and illegal activities go unchallenged, which is why we are formally filing charges against all of the egregious and blatantly illegal actions taken by Amazon during the union vote,” said Stuart Appelbaum, RWDSU’s president. “Amazon knew full well that unless they did everything they possibly could, even illegal activity, their workers would have continued supporting the union.” https://www.jacobinmag.com/2021/04/amazon-bessemer-union-drive-vote-nlrb How Bellingcat Launders National Security State Talking Points into the Press AMSTERDAM — Investigative site Bellingcat is the toast of the popular press. In the past month alone, it has been described as “an intelligence agency for the people” (ABC Australia), a “transparent” and “innovative” (New Yorker) “independent news collective,” “transforming investigative journalism” (Big Think), and an unequivocal “force for good” (South China Morning Post). Indeed, outside of a few alternative news sites, it is very hard to hear a negative word against Bellingcat, such is the gushing praise for the outlet founded in 2014. This is troubling, because the evidence compiled in this investigation suggests Bellingcat is far from independent and neutral, as it is funded by Western governments, staffed with former military and state intelligence officers, repeats official narratives against enemy states, and serves as a key part in what could be called a “spook to Bellingcat to corporate media propaganda pipeline,” presenting Western government narratives as independent research. https://www.mintpressnews.com/bellingcat-intelligence-agencies-launders-talking-points-media/276603/ Western Media Incite Anti-Asian Racism When They Join in Cold War Against China Time (3/20/20) pointed out that Trump was “part of a long history of associating diseases with foreign countries.” USA Today (2/11/21) reported that “racist rhetoric about the coronavirus pandemic may be fueling a rise in hate incidents.” The Los Angeles Times (3/5/21), reporting on a study that found anti-Asian hate crimes in 16 major cities had risen 149% last year—while total hate crimes against all minority groups had dropped 7%—declared that “the rise is almost certainly related to the pandemic.” But the Trump administration wasn’t the only actor associating Covid-19 with China. Asian writers (Salon, 2/7/20; CNN, 3/28/20) have pointed out the racist logic often employed by the scientific community and Western media in naming an epidemic: If a virus is believed to have originated from and is circulating in Western countries, either refer to it by a generic numerical designation (e.g. H1N1), or reference the animal believed to be responsible for the zoonotic spillover (e.g., Mad Cow Disease, Swine Flu). If the virus is first detected in a country that the West has stereotyped, then the epidemic will be named after the region it’s believed to have originated from (e.g., Middle East Respiratory Syndrome, West Nile Virus). The World Health Organization (WHO), breaking with this tradition in 2015, officially named the novel coronavirus that started the pandemic “Covid-19” on February 11, 2020, to avoid stigmatizing Chinese people, even though the virus was informally referred to as the “Wuhan Coronavirus” in Western media reports both before (e.g., New York Times, 1/21/20; CNN, 2/4/20; US News & World Report, 1/24/20), and after the WHO’s official designation (e.g., Fox, 12/29/20; BBC, 8/18/20). Indeed, towards the beginning of the pandemic, US media outlets saw fit to publish loaded headlines in op-eds like “A Communist Coronavirus” (Wall Street Journal, 1/29/20), “China Is the Real Sick Man of Asia” (Wall Street Journal, 2/3/20) and “Coronavirus Spreads, and the World Pays for China’s Dictatorship” (New York Times, 1/29/20). https://fair.org/home/western-media-incite-anti-asian-racism-when-they-join-in-cold-war-against-china/
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Anonymous 02/23/2021 (Tue) 20:46:10 No. 1325233 [Reply] [Last]
Has Stonetoss lost it?
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>>1333093 no, he's saying that rejecting theism does not mean you are separated from any secular religions which may take it's place. the cult of reason shows how "free thought" can quickly become dogmatic and cultish, the same way political correctness is godless but functions as a type of religion to people.
>>1332903 You referring to Robin D'Anglo specifically? She's one of those creatures that teaches so-called anti-racism seminars at companies like Chevron. To her racism isn't a systemic, structural issue but a issue that specifically is caused by individuals who were born white in America, and being a white person in America means you can never be 100% not racist. It kind of implies that people who are white are unable to be friends with black people because it implicitly suggest that every single white person is, by virtue of a more nebulously defined white supremacy in America, necessarily as a result of white privilege unable to "totally be down." Robin D'Angelo, you can tell, seems to be a little weird about black people. Her conceptualization of racism is one that is eternal, that cannot be overcome, and can only be treated. It implies that solidarity can come only in the form of self improvement. She ends up being a self improvement guru for race, and this is why big corporations like to hire her because she kills solidarity between coworkers and makes HR, which ultimately works in service of Capital accumulation, unquestionable since they become the arbiters of solidarity.
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>>1333093 Maybe not exactly that, but we should've made a stronger effort to replace both the beneficial social functions of religion and the vacuum it left as an institution, so that something with all the problems of an actual religion (such as PC) doesn't have room to sprout up. I don't know if what's needed is merely an extensive culture of social clubs, therapists, etc., combined with dedicated civic institutions, or if most people really need something actually replicating most of the pomp and ritual of religion (but in dedication to philosophical methods that aren't delusional), like the Cult of Reason and similar ideas.
>>1333097 >>1333097 >the cult of reason shows how "free thought" can quickly become dogmatic and cultish The cult of reason was an artificial attempt to make free thought into a cult and it was a failure, though
>>1325309 where are her tatas?

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Modern Monetary Theory Anonymous 03/05/2021 (Fri) 21:52:39 No. 1327674 [Reply] [Last]
thread about modern monetary theory. Do you think it is correct?
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MMT is snake oil designed by the bourgeoisie to muddy the waters and denigrate the Marxist truth that labour is what creates value.
>>1332894 As has been repeated throughout the thread, MMT is =NOT A POLICY, it is a DESCRIPTION of how capitalism has actually functioned for the past century. The rightarded "muh federal reserve" LOLberts who want to attack the >highly financialised and incestuous corporate structures, and administered by banks Are flailing against a phantasmal misconception of it that hasn't existed since the 1800s >>1332927 >the Marxist truth that labour is what creates value Which is totally orthogonal to (and compatible with) the mechanisms of debt accounting and reallocation MMT describes
>>1332987 >>1332987 >>1332987 >it's a description not a policy So says you. This is tantamount to saying >D00D, drapetomania is totally just a material description of reality and not a way of weaponizing a socially constructed "psycopathology" to benefit the owning class lmao!! Also, the federal reserve is merely a group of the leading banks who collude openly to fix rates, among other cartel-like behavior. The concern is fundamentally with the behavior of banks as they relate to markets. And again, there is nothing in this that contradicts core Marxist theory. Ergo, marx's chief concern isn't and was never to attack the heart of financial capital.
MMT is a correct description of how the fascist American state currently functions. Which begs the question why the American state doesn't fix all the issues the MMT-activists beg it to?: it doesn't give a shit. Not if Trump won, not if Biden won, not if Bernie won, not if anyone else won. Pain is the point
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>>1333041 We aren't the ones peddling hoary old warmed over goldbuggerer propaganda about "muh deficit spending", "muh hyperinflation", "muh sound money", etc. from back when porky was flailing against bimetallism in the 19th century. >the federal reserve is merely a group of the leading banks who collude openly to fix rates Which basically doesn't matter, because interest rates are irrelevant to the most important mechanism by which inflation is adjusted. If you refuse to open your eyes to how the world actually works, you will never be able to win a fight against anyone who does. >>1333121 Part of the reason monetarily sovereign economies such as the USA (and economies that could [re]gain monetary sovereignty) aren't fixed, is because porky lies about how these economies actually function and what their real limits are. Understanding MMT gives the people a powerful tool to deny such excuses and demand better.

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The Bell Curve Anonymous 04/05/2021 (Mon) 17:06:42 No. 1332473 [Reply]
Sorry, faggots, it exists, it's real, and it explains why shitskins will never amount to anything when compared to the superior white man. You can whine about "muh socio-economic" theories all you want, but the fact still stands that if your discipline was as infallible as you claim it to be, then the need to censor those in opposition to your theories would not exist. Now someone please tell me why I might be wrong (I'm definitely not), so I can expose your inability to think critically for yourselves, as well as your blatant hivemind attitude to politics. I must also laugh at how you retards share the same stance as fucking JEFF FUCKING BEZOS who openly condoned the influx of brown migrant workers, so as to decrease the chances of unionisation occurring. You know that key component of labour of which you all believe should exist? Funny that: commies and oligarchs now share the same beliefs. Like poetry, eh? kek, anyway, none of you faggots will ever be women. Bye.
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Are you finished?
The simpler you dumbfucks boil this down the more brain cells I lose. There was no indication that last one's economic poverty of these groups was taken into account so there is no point in debating it. for the other ones though what does distance from African genetics have to do with anything? let's make an expression for this just for a bit so I'm gonna make this expression on the assumption that we can even measure intelligence by IQ which is very wrong. so it would be this i_g = iq/e if we did this we would get the genetic factor of iq but sadly non of your sources stack up.

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>>1332505 >i_g = iq/e what's 'i_g' and 'e' even supposed to represent?
>>1332473 >Sorry, faggots, it exists, it's real, and it explains why shitskins will never amount to anything when compared to the superior white man. Are you a wahmen? >You can whine about "muh socio-economic" theories all you want, but the fact still stands that if your discipline was as infallible as you claim it to be, then the need to censor those in opposition to your theories would not exist. For the 100,157th we are not liberals, you are talking about twitter, tumbler, reddit and what not libsh*ts >Now someone please tell me why I might be wrong (I'm definitely not), so I can expose your inability to think critically for yourselves, as well as your blatant hivemind attitude to politics. Again not liberals, thats liberals. It seems to me that you have been subject to "old money" former confederate state narratives that are still very likely s e e t h i n g that the union abolished their property - namely the slaves. "Old money" confederates perhaps have been trying to reintroduce slavery with family trees at the ready to even claim the descendants of freed slaves. "But look at the genetic distance" you might say, if the huwhite man is superior wouldnt it be superior to abstain from enslaving others? >I must also laugh at how you retards share the same stance as fucking JEFF FUCKING BEZOS who openly condoned the influx of brown migrant workers, so as to decrease the chances of unionisation occurring. You know that key component of labour of which you all believe should exist? We are not liberals, again. Jeff Bezos is very likely involved among others in the influx of migrants to the USA. As long as those migrants dont move in his neighbourhood he wouldnt mind. It might just be longer time due to the rate of migration before the American workers and the Mexican and Central American workers reconcile. One way the help the situation and to facilitate reconciliation and solidarity would be for the American unions to contact the Mexican and Central American unions (and vice versa) so they can address the matter appropriately. >Funny that: commies and oligarchs now share the same beliefs. Like poetry, eh? kek, anyway, none of you faggots will ever be women. Bye. Liberals and oligarchs share the same beliefs - ftfy. LGBTQ+ tend to care about LGBTQ+ matters and growing their dating pool. Whatever apologetics and defense that socialists, communists and anarchists afforded to LGBTQ+ it was never reciprocated by them they just took-took-took and took (case in point the board split and prior to that granting them all their known demands and compromises) and the chickens have come home to roost.
>>1332473 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBc7qBS1Ujo It's been debunked in depth many, many times. The fact that the only people who remain confident in its infallibility are the same ppl who run around calling ppl shitskins illustrates a point: you think it's real because you won't listen to anyone who can rationally present its obvious biases and holes.

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What are you doing against the covidiocracy? Anonymous 03/20/2021 (Sat) 23:05:15 No. 1329811 [Reply] [Last]
You'll be killed either by the ruling class or by the masses rising against it. Time to get up.
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>>1330280 What is this picture from?
>>1333149 The fake left have been totally silent about Tanzania.
All these black celebs falling dead after the vax. Those fringe schizo antivaxxers already knew vaccines are more dangerous for blacks than for whites.
>>1333159 Noticed the massive push in Britain, America and probably elsewhere to get black people to take the vax?
>>1333218 what will happen

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