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 No.1792141[Reply]

There has to be a reason other than "they are racist idiots etc" It seems the gains in Europe and abroad is not just temporary but increasing to the detriment of proper left wing parties. This recent election in Portugal is just one example.
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 No.1796735

>>1796734
believe it or not most people's lives would be disrupted if this shithole balkanized into a libertarians wet dream

 No.1796940

>>1796700
>When you're starving to death
>in the global north
>in western euro welfarite regimes in particular
I'm anti-JDPON larping but come on lol. My parents were basically poor lumpens and even i did not come anywhere close to starving.
>>1796708
Bernie was tougher on immigration that every republican candidates at the time and still is now. I even remember when he got called antisemitic for saying open borders were a Koch brothers conspiracy.
>>1796719
They don't care until the economy is doing bad.

 No.1796948

>>1796940
Tougher than Trump?
I do wonder what a bernie-trump debate would have looked like. Right wing populism vs left wing populism. If only.
Corbyn also got called antisemitic by zionists as a smear campaign. Those people sure do get a lot of power in deciding who youre allowed to agree with, huh?

 No.1797124

>>1796940
>Bernie was tougher on immigration that every republican candidates at the time and still is now
He isn't, he has recanted all such views a long time ago, and never had a voter record that suggested he ever believed it.

> I even remember when he got called antisemitic for saying open borders were a Koch brothers conspiracy.
He said this 8 years ago, and did a 180 a month or two into his campaign.

 No.1797235

>>1796948
This is like watching a kid try to put a square block in a circular hole


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 No.1468946[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Hilo latino flacos, tratemos de mantenerlo mas activo que el hilo pasado. Ameribros as always we allow you to speak english, we are not Ukrainian fascists.

Para luego buscarlo en el catálogo:
Latinoamérica, Latin America, LATAM, /lat/, latinoamérica, latino américa, hispanoamerica, /ñ/
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 No.1797199

>>1796894
Whats that? You are lustful, racism is the LEAST of our concerns.
I myself have no issue with racist banter. but your problem isnt being black. its being so pathetic you worship a specific branch of women

 No.1797226

>>1797199
All men worship at the mound of venus whether they admit to it or not.

 No.1798430

>>1732847
this>>1734730
some alternatives are rising. i started helping a newly established party called via socialista
good proposals, good analysis of our current material conditions. too technocratic and small, but its the most decent party ive seen so far

 No.1798436

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRNm57n9oWw
hola compas
q opinan de esto?

 No.1810530

https://www.0221.com.ar/la-plata/una-mujer-fue-una-carniceria-la-plata-preguntar-cuanto-le-cobraban-faenar-su-perro-n89880


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 No.1782098[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Remember!!: A new thread?? I thought mods were just lazy. God hoping new threads are a recurring thing again.

>have 700k+ army
>mobilize non-stop for two years
>quickly, we need 500k more!
>"uuuuhm easy, just triple the number of active soldiers!"

<Perseus did nothing wrong. Zakhaev did nothing wrong. Barkov did nothing wrong.

>I'm going to renounce socialism because intbriganon got pussy and became a liberal.

<What next? Are they going to say that a slave doesn't really want liberation but rather wants to enslave his masters? I hate romaboos btw

>Attempt to criticize the horrors of Soviet totalitarianism
>Police break into your house and throw you into a van to never be seen again
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>>1797100
What are these? Documents to join the Ukrop forces?

 No.1797111

>>1796825
Don’t forget

>Holodomor / double genocide myth
>Robert Conquest

 No.1797112

>>1797101
Looks like Russian presidential ballots and Dva.ch memeing while voting

 No.1797118

>>1796995
What's the context on this?

 No.1797119

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🍞🌾NEW BREAD🍞🌾

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 No.1796628[Reply]

You guys put any stock in the idea that part of the reason for the latent reationary wave we've seen fall over the west since 2016 (though really since 2020) has something to do with the richest themselves becoming more reactionary in character?
Sure you can say all the things you ought say about broad socio-economic trends, peasantization of the working class, the outsourcing of jobs, capitalism in crisis ect. But it just seems to me that the richest 1% becoming AESHTETICALLY socially conservative has alot to do with the rise of of national populism (Fascism) on the world stage generally.
Like think back to the Obama years when the richest 1% were lib cali tech nerds like Bill Gates and Steve Jobs. In a way they're still really Cali Tech nerds but the new grop that came after them have definately position themselves as more reactionary then those who came before (think peter teil and obviously elon musk) AND with their increasing insistence on """free speech"""" on social media they seem to be pumping far right propganda into the eyes of millions per day, shifting the overton windown in the process.
I dont know
Just would like to hear left/pol/s thoughts on the matter??
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 No.1796659

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>>1796641
>You've demonstrated understanding of the material underpinning of this rise of reaction, yet you still want to be due to elite thought leaders.
>Why do you prefer this explanation?
More just se it as a partial explanation rather then a fully coherent one.
Yes of course all this is driven by economic factors beyond the control of any conspiracy or just a sympathetic sub culture within the owning class but still at the micro level; was curious if you thought ANY of this was (at the least) sped up by some of them like musk putting their thumb on the scales for personal reasons??

 No.1796665

>>1796659
>dialectical hatred
THATS NOT

 No.1796674

>>1796659
Pic
Is completely forgotten the reason I keep using this thrase 'you have said the actual truth.'
10/10 tweets though. Probably the only funny thing to happen on that website.

 No.1796676

>>1796665
kek.

 No.1796746

I don't think it's a coincidence.
Fascism is capitalism in decay and well


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 No.1794517[Reply]

So I am familiar with the American deep-state, and am confident that they would stop the president from going full retard with nukes. But I am not so sure about Putin.

I know states don't operate off the "le great leader can do what he wants" model. There are always competing factions and group-interests that keep any one individual from becoming a god (even stalin had people who would tell him to fuck off). The question is: how robust is the Russian ruling class when it comes to preventing nuclear war?

And just to clarify I am not one of those "putin=hitler 2.0" libs I just don't know much about the Russian deepstate and wish to be enlightened.
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 No.1796212

The Russian state couldn't start a nuclear war against NATO and survive the next 24 hours. NATO simply consists of more relevant targets than Russia. It's simple math. The 'West' will continue to exist in some form, but Russia won't and I am pretty sure they are aware of this.

 No.1796219

>>1796212
They have more missiles too. It's called _Mutual_ Assured Destruction for a reason.

 No.1796279

>>1796212
Nobody is going to survive an attack of that scale.

 No.1796550

>>1796212
You literally have MacArthur brain you believe in the clash of civilizations. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. Please try to understand why wars actually occur.

 No.1796606

>>1796212
>nuclear war against NATO
>limited nuclear war
Everybody is getting nuked and bunker busted and whatever else.

Even assuming that the extremely rich and powerful can somehow make their own feuds out of the minority of survivors. And that they'll be so well prepared as to survive the post-nuclear holocaust without social upheaval, that still seems like a big downgrade. And and it would probably be an uphill battle to somehow reestablish the capitalist relations that shaped the world before the nukes.

So launching the nukes is no solution to the problems of globalized capitalism, more like a spiteful last ditch shot at omnicide. Which I can't picture helping the perception that more capitalism is the path forwards, either.


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 No.1792717[Reply]

Politically speaking, is there any reason to do anything instead of leeching off your family and waiting till they die to retire with their property? Everything feels pointless so why shouldn't you just wait for the system to collapse? Seems like the most reasonable thing to do imo
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 No.1794405

>>1792916
This is the right way to do it.

 No.1796408

>>1792732
this
antiwork people are just lazy ass manchildren who want eternal childhood.

 No.1796413

work can be a way to gain skills necessary to make good of the chaos of revolition and.that which comes after. if you deny yourself useful work, youll get fucked during collapse

 No.1796440

>>1792916
this tbh. I know im never going to have a relationship, and kids, and house.

 No.1796448

It's not going to collapse.
Capitalist countries will go to war to wreck as much shit as the can to buy more time in the ticking clock that is the falling rate of profit, or mutually assured destruction
Socialist countries well band together in self-defense. The less capitalist countries there are, the greater chance this will be successful.
You're on the clock to either escape to a socialist country or bring your country closer to socialism.
>everything feels pointless
Stop using centralized social media, cut down your news intake, and get to organizing or packing. Things are a lot better off than you think.


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 No.1789540[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

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 No.1796699

>>1796609
Well maybe not so big, but it is part of a general escalation in the West Bank the past week. There are significantly more IOF troops deployed to the West Bank than Gaza already, and now they are being deployed to Al-Khalil. It was an infiltration and shooting of settlers that triggered the initial irsaeli aggression.

 No.1797029

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National Resistance Brigades (Martyr Omar Al-Qasim Forces) spokesman Abu Khaled:
Our forces continue their clashes with the enemy forces and strike their positions in cooperation with the resistance factions.
Commander Abu Khaled, spokesman for the Martyr Omar Al-Qasim Forces (the military wing of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine), issued a military report, in which he revealed that the Martyr Omar Al-Qasim Forces continued their clashes with the “israeli” enemy forces, and confronted them on the fighting axes in the Gaza Strip. In conjunction with a number of fighters from the resistance factions they targeted enemy positions with rocket barrages. Below are the details:
First: The Martyr Omar Al-Qasim Forces (the military wing of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine) clashed with the “israeli” enemy forces on the axes of advance in Hamad town, northwest of Khan Younis. They used machine guns and rocket-propelled grenades, and were able to target one of the enemy’s vehicles with a “B7” shell, hitting it directly and causing severe damage, causing the occupants to fall between killed and wounded.
Second: The Martyr Omar Al-Qasim Forces in conjunction with the Mujahideen Brigades, Saraya Al-Quds, and Al-Husseini Groups, targeted enemy positions south of Al-Zaytoun neighborhood in Gaza City, with barrages of B-107 caliber rockets, and the missiles hit their targets, causing heavy losses among the enemy's ranks.
Third: The artillery unit in the The Martyr Omar Al-Qasim Forces bombarded enemy positions northeast of Juhr al-Dik using short-range rockets, hitting their targets and causing heavy damage in the ranks of the enemy forces.
Martyr Omar Al-Qasim Forces – The military wing of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine
Military Media
17/3/2024

 No.1797041

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 No.1798215

>>1794617
>what is taglit?
birthright tours


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 No.1792736[Reply]

how many modes of production are there? it frustrates me to no end how little is agreed upon about the nature and number of precapitalist modes compared to capitalism itself. scholars cannot even agree whether european feudalism is a more advanced or degenerated form of a tributary mode, or whether "peasant" and "kinship" modes exist. how do i elucidate this shit without spending years reading idk chinese fiduciary records?
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 No.1792857

>>1792794
Nowhere near the extent of China

 No.1792882

>>1792857
mercantilist corporations and companies were usually state chartered under a monarchy, that's pretty bureaucratic

 No.1793211

>>1792781
ive read part of this, the historical materialism series is good but honestly this one raised more questions for me than answers (hence this thread)
>>1792807
my issue with this is that it seems like differentiating modes of production is a matter of "splitting" and "lumping". we know they exist and that some of them are relatively discrete, but depending on how we apply the definition of "mode of production" we can really have as many as we want, as >>1792738 points out. the fundamental question is how we resolve this materialistically? ie, what nuance do we need to pay attention to in order to make "mode of production" a transhistorically consistent concept with definite constituent examples?

 No.1793362

>>1792774
>>1792778
Good posts. Glad to see this board still has a few quality posters.

>pre-capitalist modes of production
Is the Zapatista economy pre-capitalist? I know the Zapatista movement is a reaction to neoliberalism, but did they (internally) avoid capitalism?

 No.1796307

Why do you want to nearly divide them into discreet modes and make them countable?
Try understanding the different aspects, how they interplay, which kinds of relationships are dominant. This is much more valuable than arbitrarily trying to separate different mixes of modes at different different.


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 No.1792589[Reply]

Communist Party of Austria in the Salzburg Mayoral Election

>First Communist Party Success in Mayoral Elections in Graz (2019)
>Christian Conservatives malding: "This brand is toxic"
>Final Ballots on the 24th of March
>Upwards to 20% Voter gain

Red Vienna 2 when?
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 No.1796151

>>1796150
Bugger off, KPO is just plain wrong. I read it as Kpop at first and was already ready to get annoyed at some new type of schizo retardation

 No.1796160

>>1796150
how about you actually use the dead key for " so you can write characters like öëï etc. there are English words like naïve that require them so there's no excuse

 No.1796161

>>1796150
KPŒ

 No.1796177

>>1796150
KKKPÖ€

 No.1796221

>>1792589
>>>/leftydeutschpol/
>But it's Austria!
>>>/leftyDEUTSCHpol/


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 No.1789525[Reply]

>If you hoard perishable goods it goes bad, therefore there is a low incentive to hard it, and strong incentive to consume it or circulate it quickly
>if you hoard non-perishable goods, it doesn't go bad, but it may still be consumed. there is a medium incentive to hoard it, or keep it from circulation
>if something is non-perishable, and non-consumable, there is a strong incentive to hoard it, even if its entire use value is to be circulated
>therefore people hoard money even though its use value is to be circulated
>because the economy functions best when things circulate quickly, the lack of circulation caused by hoarding is like a blood clot. bad for the health, and potentially fatal.
>the credit system was invented to get around this
>but what if money simply had an expiration date instead? what if it went back to the public fund if you didn't use it?


people make fun of him for this, but I think it's a neat idea. one of the biggest problems i run into in game design is that hoarding money is an OP strategy even in games where pay is very low for missions and side quests. making money oxidize would balance gameplay in a lot of games. Why wouldn't it balance gameplay irl?

<inb4 reddit
<inb4 harvey is senile
<inb4 read cockshott
<inb4 neo-bernsteinite
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 No.1791370

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>>1791303

 No.1796015

>>1791303
why are you here as if your ideology hasnt been dead since 1929

 No.1796025

>>1789525
Money having an expiration date would just lead to more rampant overconsumption, we need socialism not 'reformed capitalism'

 No.1796206

>>1789525
making fun of this would waste an opportunity to explain how the debt system works and that we can't use "one easy trick" like this or UBI. even bringing back debt jubilees wouldn't be enough. we need full communism bb

 No.1796209

>>1789654
>What kind of teeth rot?
Yours do.
gotem


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