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 No.1789934[Reply]

the priority should be CUM!!!
Cooperatives
Unions
Militias
Why are political parties needed? name a single reason! you only need CUM!!!!
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 No.1790033

And who or where would these CUM get to coordinate their actions? Checkmate anti-fappers.

 No.1790396

>>1789934
the fact that george washington thought he could flex his clout to stop political parties from forming is proof of what idealists the founding fondlers were

 No.1790486

>>1789934
I wanna cum on Washingtons forehead

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>>1789936
>thanos-thanos-talking.gif
you posted it again!

 No.1790892

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>>1790486
gorge sloshingcum



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 No.1790093[Reply]

hi guys long time lurker but haven't posted until now.
what are your stances on local language models (LLMs)?
I know that closed models like GPT-4 are fucking stupid and late stage capitalism.
But what about everyone having infinite knowledge at their fingertips? is this not a noble goal?
What is the party line on AI and the proletariat?
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 No.1790346

>>1790345
This faggot by coming here to make these endless shitty ops about his faggot twitteroid ai products.

 No.1790375

A neural network that can tell you outcomes based on past data?
Where could that be useful,?
Oh yes socialist planning

 No.1790421

>>1790093
I use them myself. They're fun.
Just don't drink the cool aid. They're reproducing machines. That's all they are good for.

 No.1790509

>>1790345
he thinks that everyone who makes a thread about AI is the same person.

 No.1790510

Moved to >>>/tech/23640.



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 No.1789953[Reply]

How do right wingers glorify manlet faggots like Brenton Tarrant when actual glorious Aryan warriors and men against time like Andreas Baader exist?

>Be Baader

>Son of a Wehrmacht who died in the war
>People recall remembering him being unruly but intelligent and well written in school
>Born to a middle class family, decides to leave it all
>Becomes an experimental actor and talented car thief
>Burns down a warehouse and goes to jail just to protest the deaths of Vietnamese thousands of miles away
>Charismatic leader of an communist urban guerilla organization that gains a 20% approval rating
>Lead prison riots in multiple facilities you get transferred to
>Get to do it all hand in hand with the love of your life
>Targets are either actually armed or genuinely politically powerful
>Never once have to release a manifesto, the world-class bourgeois journalist you recruited for your organization does it all for you
>Get to be an asshole to Sartre in person
>Get movies made about you where you're depicted as a quirky hotheaded anti-hero
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 No.1789982

Neo-Nazis are, almost necessarily, historically ignorant edgelords. If you're not both of those, you'll typically realize there are other nationalist and/or racist ideologies which aren't actual meth psychosis.
Their principles for glorification are flimsy, you're not a real Aryan Master Race if you don't agree with them - it's got nothing to do with actual genetics, or >race, or >spirit, it's pure ideology. A weak virgin nerd who kills unarmed people deemed enemies is a brave hero! Neo-Nazism is a desperate farce, it really is. They can typically only recruit a few rejected soldiers and autistic video game addicts.

Why do right wingers glorify manlet faggots like Brenton Tarrant?
Because there are no other options.

 No.1789984

make a better thread next time faggot

 No.1790502

>>1789953
Because they can relate to brenton. Most neo nazis are incels, don't have successful parents, aren't tall, aren't attractive, have no charisma, and could never fight against someone who would actually shoot back.

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>>1789953
FREE DANIELA KLETTE

 No.1790506

Baader was a retard but he was indeed a based retard



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 No.1788009[Reply]

I despise that many organizations I've been are completely menshevized - the intellectuals lead the discourse on the working class. It all gets mystified and any the self-appointed leaders see any critique of organization as an outright attack on the working class (against them) and infantilize any immediate analysis which comrades contribute to a misunderstanding theory, which only they, our popelings of Marxism, have interperted to us, and have done so correctly.
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 No.1789518

That seems to be the norm, it spilling over into mass worker-led movements seems to be more a tipping point.

 No.1789527

>>1789484
Border was largely abolished, though. Khruschev remilitarized it

 No.1790189

>>1789527
still should have said yes
concerns about russian chauvinism could have been attenuated by regularly moving party headquarters, like the EU does

 No.1790449

>>1790189
The idea is cute but it doesn't work. Every time the european parlament has to move to Strasbourg they try to dig up a reason not to.
What I think could be taken from the EU is spreading your various agencies across your member states

 No.1790454

I feel like a cuck knowing more about Russia's history than my own country's history.



 No.1789712[Reply]

When do you think it will happen anons? How do you you think it will start? Is therely likely to be a draft in such a scenario? What are your plans in the event of conscription?
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>>1789712
World War III is guaranteed to happen only if/when Trump wins the 2024 U$ Presidential Election (even though Biden uses lots of Neocon rhetoric and has shamelessly provided weapons to the Genocidal Zionist State, he won’t actually fight World War III as proven by the fact that he won’t Invade Iran, Bomb Russia, end the One-China Policy and support Taiwan “independence”, and end permanent normal Trade Relations with China, so it makes sense that Putin, Xi, Iran, Cuba, CPUSA, etc. endorse Biden’s reelection), with the Invasions of Iran and Mexico due to happen in 2025 (the Middle Eastern and Latin American theatre’s, respectively), simultaneously with the implementation of “Project 2025” turning the U$ into a full-blown Fascist Theocracy, while the war with China is due to happen in 2026 or 2027 (Interestingly, this latter date is often mentioned by many MIC Neocon Think Tanks as a likely year for the Sino-American War over Taiwan), when China invades Taiwan after their economy collapses from the 60% Tariff as part of the end of permanent normal trade relations with the U$ causing all U$ manufacturing to flee the country (Silicon Valley will be shutdown both by this and the end of Section 230), thus providing a Casus Belli for the U$ to launch an Air Campaign against China with Stealth Bombers and Standoff Cruise Missiles, which will mark the official start of World War III (the East Asian theatre will be the primary one due to China being the only military that can withstand a High-Intensity Conventional Conflict with the U$ due to their massive IRBM/MRBM/GLCM arsenal and impressive Surface Fleet, while the Middle Eastern and Latin American theatre's will be winding down around this time, due to overwhelming U$ Air Supremacy against Iran and Mexico, with Eastern Europe being a bit of a wildcard as I could see both a ceasefire/peace agreement in Ukraine to keep Russia neutral as the U$ takes out China, Iran, and Mexico, or Trump completely screwing Putin and ordering a U$ No-Fly Zone/Air Campaign against Russia, with either scenario being equally likely), with World War III either ending in a Conventional U$ victory that results in the overthrow of the Chinese Communist Party and the Balkanizing of China in a renewed Chinese Civil War/“Century of Humiliation” that enshrines the Darkest Reaction of U$ Hegemony under a Planetary Christian Zionist NaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.1790130

>>1790108
>😂🤣🤢🤮✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇮🇷🇵🇸🇸🇾🇾🇪🇮🇶🇱🇧🇨🇺🇻🇪🇷🇺🇧🇾🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

 No.1790193

>>1789712
Unpopular opinion: it won't. There's not enough military production in the world to sustain bigger conflicts than what we have going on now.

Did you know that the only tank producer in the west right now is Rhinemetal? The United States aren't even producing any tanks right now.

The west has one hope right now: that they can blockade China and destroy the three gorges dam. They know they can't win in Ukraine, they know they can't even afford to invade Yemen right now, nevermind Iran.

 No.1790224

>>1789712

To be honest i don't think we will nessercrily see a "WW3" per say but more so a series of proxy wars as the US attempts to maintain its global hegenomy by constantly waging wars in an attempt to keep itself alive for a little longer (But not nessericly directly against its geopolitcal rivals for instance but more so smaller periphery states like Iran and Mexico for instance and of course continuing to support pro us satilite states such as Israel and Ukraine for instance) again consdiering the fact that in the us public support for continuing to support Israel (And to a lesser extent) Ukraine has been fairly low all things considered and i would imagine a direct war involving US troops on the ground even against relativly week imperial periphery states like Mexico and Iran would be even less popular but well yeah.

But to awnser the question of a direct "Hot-War" between china and america i think it really depends on a lot of potential factors.

1. How large is the conflict in question (Aka does it drawn in Both America's and China's allies such as the European states and Russia for instance or is it just a war between America and China)

2. Which president is in charge of america, now it may be quite surpising but i think both Biden and Trump have about an equal chance of starting ww3 (Though tbh in my opinion thats only has about a 20-25% chance of happening though the chance that the us could become invovled in a shitload of localized conflcits is fairly likely in my opinion) now again the main reason why i think these two have about an equal chance of starting ww3 is largely due to a few reasons, for one in the case of biden is beacuse of the fact that at this point biden is fairly firmly in the Neo-liberal camp but is fairly aware that most of his voting base are progressives and (Increasingly) outright Marxists if he (somehow by the grace of god) manages to win the 2024 election (which is far from guaranteed considering that biden's popularity is currently sitting at 38% as he managed to piss off most of his voting base with his handling of the Israel-Palastine conflict) then i would imagine biden will probably have to juggle the interests of the democrats and the interests of his voting base which i would imagine would lead biden to take a middle of a ground approch when it came to foreign policy (Though evenPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>>1790193
Countries have deluded themselves into going to war with bigger disadvantages. What's stopping America from doing the same, when so many in the 'States see their massive worldwide army as unbeatable?

The sole deterrent to WW3 is mutually assured destruction, and even that isn't stopping some people (denial of Russia's stockpile or the possibility of a nuclear holocaust has begun to spread in recent years; some are willing to brush off a nuclear exchange because they don't believe they would be an immediate target).

Considering how many times we've narrowly avoided WW3 in the last 79 years, there's no reason to think the war could start today for stupid reasons.



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 No.1788376[Reply]

Artificial Intelligence Thread

A thread to discuss the impact of artificial intelligence on politics and in the economy.

Suggested Readings

Nvidia and AI fuel market frenzy:
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/02/24/kelf-f24.html

Generative artificial intelligence will lead to job cuts this year, CEOs say:
https://www.ft.com/content/908e5465-0bc4-4de5-89cd-8d5349645dda

DOCUMENTS REVEAL ADVANCED AI TOOLS GOOGLE IS SELLING TO ISRAEL:
https://theintercept.com/2022/07/24/google-israel-artificial-intelligence-project-nimbus/

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>>1788677
If it ever becomes a problem I will pick an AI-detection neural network and just run that.
With that said, one of the upsides of being small is that nobody that matters cares to target us in a consistent manner

 No.1788701

>>1788677
Anonymous forums (at least ones which don't take drastic pseudo-authentication measures like topic-specific knowledge tests) will not be the first to go, but they're easy targets once they become relevant, just because they're so much easier to spam than forums.
But really, unless it's profitable to astroturf, like mainstream social media and maybe some of the bigger hobby/political forums like 4chinz, I just don't see it happening. And if you're using those, I have little sympathy for you anyway. They're just shit, through and through.

 No.1788706

>>1788683
>The open source fags were right and we need to start building our own parallel meshnet.
If you're in Europe or a city, there might already be one up.
There are also darknets, which while some of them can be commercialized (see example: crypto and drug markets on I2P, basically everything on .onion), are unlikely to be, or at least to such a scale, due to relative inaccessibility and target audience.

>>1788694
>If it ever becomes a problem I will pick an AI-detection neural network and just run that.
Not how it works, chief. Cat and mouse.

 No.1790322

Compared to trusting a glowed cloud black box, what's the official thinking on using separate local programs for individual specific tasks
>one to manage training datasets
>one to search all the nets and databases
>one to assign weight to results
>one to check truthiness
>one to compile data in customized formats
>one to write query replies in human readable formats
>one to manage communication between these programs
>one to rule them all
>one to operate the thermite grenade launcher
Seems better than an all in one program not under the control of the end user. Does this make any sense?



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 No.1788785[Reply]

>Mitsuyasu Maeno
>born in 1947 in japan, far right nationalist
>attends ultra nationalist meetings, admires Yoshio Kodama, who was the boss of the late 60s / early 70s japanese criminal underworld and another ultra nationalist leader
>Soft porn actor, earns awards for his performances, including one for a sex scene with a famous eurasian actress on an airplane
>actual pilot
>disappointed by Yoshio Kodama after the Lockheed scandal
>goes to an airport with a couple of people, dressed as a kamikaze from WW2
>manages to rent a plane, saying it's for the shooting of a film
>crashes his plane into Yoshio Kodama's mansion while screaming BANZAI
>misses, the Lockheed scandal grows even bigger
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 No.1789069

>>1788990
holy shit, that's highschool of the dead

 No.1789374

Perhaps one could make some connections there with regard to pornography overfloods and fascism, in honor of Women's Day.

 No.1789385

Anyone knows what the Japanese far-left does in comparisson? I mean, they have a big communist party in there

 No.1790123

>>1788785
Guy that fell down the rightoid rabbithole gets disillusioned with his rightoid idol and then tries to kill him in the most over the top way possible instead of going into denial and doing damage control or shooting up a random school?

Based.

 No.1790144

>>1789055
>The Japanese East Asia Anti-Japan Armed Front
Lol, i'v done a quick wikipedia search (pic related). They'r basically what western terminally online third worldists would look like if they got up of their armchairs.



 No.1770630[Reply]

I think I finally understand the right wing, their allied reactionaries and how they compare to the left.
it really all boils down to the belief that nature is good, or that what's natural is good. that's it. that's the entirety of the right wing summarized (more or less).
for Evangelical Christians nature is God (or from God, and therefore good).
for Nazis it's (social)Darwinism. never mind the cruelty of evolution. (it's natural and produces results, therefore good!).
for ancap libertarians it's Darwinism and/or God (free market is naturally good).

and they all more or less suffer from the Just World fallacy to some degree (something bad happened to you for no real reason? you must've deserved it somehow).
this is why they all work well together, why they're all conservative and protective of the status quo, why they hate "big government" because they think that their "natural" rights are good and any intervention from human beings is evil or bad (any human solution is inferior to nature/God). they're completely blind to the cruelty and inefficiency of nature and don't see the errors in it.

TLDR;
the right wing is one big giant appeal to nature.

 No.1789969

Thats what leftists have been saying all along. But I will take it a step further.

Its not just appeal to natire. Its also that theyre placing their socioethnic group as the default.

 No.1789989

>I think I finally understand the right wing
The fact that you think it's possible to understand 'the right wing' is proof that you don't.

 No.1790037

>>1770630
>I finally understand the right wing
>It only pertains to US politics



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 No.1788735[Reply]

The “dialectical method” is pseud bullshit. You can Hegel all you like but you don’t get a separate method out of it. Anything that’s true in dialectical terms would have to be true by at least one other way of thinking for it to be valid, otherwise it’s dianetics. As per Hegel, to think correctly is identical with being dialectical; no further teaching required. His dialectical method is not a formal toolbox you simply pull over a content to achieve scientific results - in fact, he merciless criticized this idea of bourgeois science. Nonetheless even a lot of hegeloids slip into weird shit when they reapproach physical science instead of following the master. This, like most things, cannot be solved by a re-reading of sacred texts by great teacher.

Hegel himself engaged in a lot of stupidities in his frenzy for derivation, Marx comments on this tendency wonderfully here:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/holy-family/ch05.htm#5.2

To give an example, here is Marx showing how Hegel proceeds when he wants to determine the state's constitution as an organism:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1843/critique-hpr/ch01.htm#025

These criticisms of Hegel could be written a hundred times under all the philosophical treatises that leftists so much love to write - they too move from abstractions to content by means of boredom:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts/hegel.htm
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 No.1788764

I've been in socialist milleus for years now, and read a few books and still don't know what the fuck "dialectics" is supposed to mean.

 No.1788791

>>1788764
Dialectics is a yellow ball in the sky meant to justify any argument of your own choosing.

 No.1788794

>>1788753
Basically this afaik

 No.1788844

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Horrifically reductive example but gets the point across. Did you do free body diagrams in secondary education physics; where an object in motion is subject to opposing forces that sum to a net movement in a singular direction. So 10N forward (thesis) against 6N opposing (antithesis) creates a resultant 4N force forward (synthesis). The dependant variable being the size of forces applied - the 'material' in material dialectics - against
the independent constant of there aways being opposing forces.
Take that model (with a lot more complexity) and apply repeatedly to everything over and over(because negation is never the endpoint) and that's it (sort of) - imagine the world as infinitely repeating, overlapping free body problems all in motion with each other.
Im a humanities bitch so this is as far as i ignorantly go.

 No.1790013

>>1788844
lol mao is even more bullshit than hegel



 No.1789925[Reply]

Another top donor says it will resume funding the UN agency for Palestinians as Gaza hunger grows
Sweden’s funding decision followed similar ones by the European Union and Canada as the U.N. agency known as UNRWA warns that it could collapse and leave Gaza’s already desperate population of more than 2 million people with even less medical and other assistance.
https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-gaza-war-news-03-09-2024-6f4514fa1f4ad1f18a9d4331d81f917f

UNRWA report says Israel coerced some agency employees to falsely admit Hamas links
The U.N. agency for Palestinian refugees said some employees released into Gaza from Israeli detention reported having been pressured by Israeli authorities into falsely stating that the agency has Hamas links and that staff took part in the Oct. 7 attacks.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/unrwa-report-says-israel-coerced-some-agency-employees-falsely-admit-hamas-links-2024-03-08/

Royal Navy shoots down Houthi drones after US and allies attacked in Red Sea
A Royal Navy frigate used its missiles to shoot down two attack drones as the US and its allies came under sustained Houthi attack in the Red Sea in the early hours of Saturday.The UK defence secretary, Grant Shapps, announced HMS Richmond’s role in destroying the targets in a post on X.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/09/royal-navy-shoots-down-houthi-attack-drones-in-red-sea-and-gulf-of-aden

Turkish forces abduct 14 people in Afrin and Jarablus
In occupied Jarablus, 13 people were kidnapped in the last three days. According to the information available, the abducted people in Jarablus are IDPs who were forcibly returned from Turkey. According to reports, these people were kidnapped after they crossed the border and refused the gangs' demands for ransom.
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The Feds Are Coming for “Extremist” Gamers
Gaming companies are coordinating with the FBI and Department of Homeland Security to root out so-called domestic violent extremist content, according to a new government report. Noting that mechanisms have been established with social media companies to police extremism, the report recommends that the national security agencies establish new and similar processes with the vast gaming industry.
https://theintercept.com/2024/03/09/fbi-dhs-gamers-extremism-violence/
https://archive.is/lVHsz

Federal judge seeks audit of L.A. homelessness programs
U.S. District Court Judge David O. Carter made his remarks during oral arguments on a motion filed by lawyers for the L.A. Alliance for Human Rights, which has accused the city of failing to live up to the terms of a nearly 2-year-old settlement agreement to build shelter beds and clear homeless encampments. The settlement was reached eight months before Bass was sworn into office .
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-03-08/federal-judge-seeks-audit-of-mayors-signature-program-inside-safe
https://archive.is/Id8Py

Program that allows 30,000 migrants from 4 countries into the US each month upheld by judge
U.S. District Judge Drew B. Tipton said Texas and 20 other states had not shown they had suffered financial harm because of the humanitarian parole program that allows up to 30,000 asylum-seekers into the U.S. each month from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua and Venezuela combined. That was something the states needed to prove to have legal standing to bring the lawsuit.
https://apnews.com/article/immigration-biden-haiti-cuba-nicaragua-venezuela-trial-fac9dc853231ba04ff0ea4e7442057ef

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 No.1789943

>>1789941
The only "extremism" they're interested in combatting is leftists.

 No.1789954

TYBNA

 No.1789956

The February Revolution and Lenin’s attitude towards the liberals
“The last hour has come; the fate of our country and the dynasty is being decided.” So said a panicked telegram to Tsar Nicholas II from the head of Tsarist Russia’s Duma, Mikhail Rodzianko, on the eve of the February Revolution in 1917. Rodzianko was correct – though it was not just the fate of Russia and the Romanovs being decided by the Russian masses; it was the fate of the entire world. The February Revolution opened up nine months of storm and stress. This reached a crescendo with the October Revolution, which sent ripples across the globe. But while October saw the working class – allied with the peasantry – finally take power, the February Revolution was a different case. It resulted in the establishment of two contending forces, emerging from the dust of the insurrection, marking the beginning of a state of ‘dual power’. Lenin’s intervention into this situation was decisive, characterised by a firm commitment to class independence. He placed absolutely zero faith in the bourgeois liberals who made up the Provisional Government. Lenin’s mistrust of the liberals may appear obvious to us today – particularly in countries where so-called liberal ‘democracy’ prevails, and where liberals stand completely exposed and discredited. In countries run under dictatorial regimes – that of Putin’s Russia, for example, or China – the liberals can gain a radical appearance. This can cause confusion for layers of the working class, who may come to view these liberals as potential allies. Is there not unity in numbers? Should revolutionaries not collaborate with all forces who want to overthrow a given capitalist regime? The death of Navalny in Russia has brought this question to the fore once again.
https://communist.red/the-february-revolution-and-lenins-attitude-towards-the-liberals/

Evelyn Trent Was One of America’s Great Revolutionaries
In the history of the US left, Evelyn Trent (1892–1970) is a shamefully neglected figure. If known at all, she is merely remembered as the American wife of the dashing, globe-trotting Indian anti-colonial revolutionary M. N. Roy. Active at a critical conjuncture in the 1920s, Trent helped found the communist parties of Mexico and India. She trained IndiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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