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russian civil war general Anonymous 11/13/2020 (Fri) 01:14:14 No. 1128024
How come there isn't a single thread on the war that led to the first official communist states? What does /leftypol/know or think of this war? Is there something you wish has changed during this period? Like a mistake by the reds or an unnecessary revolt? Who do you think was the best commander? >inb4trotsky with his massive train How did the Bolsheviks resist a counter-revolution by the tsar-loyalists,liberals,and anti-communists funded by every capitalist nation at that time? Post everything related to the russian civil war here,documents,stories,old relics,what important figures thought of the civil war,pictures and weapons if you are russian,movies and more >hard mode no wikipedia articles,i don't trust wikipedia. I really wanted to start this thread last saturday as that is the time it started 7 novembre.
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Armored tractor in the Russian Civil war The first armored tractor in Russia was manufactured at the Putilov factory in late 1916. The design of the armor was developed by Colonel of artillery Gulkevich, the base was the chassis of the American tractor company "Allis-Chalmers". Two armored tractors received their names - "Ilya Muromets" and "Akhtyrets". Later, " Ilya Muromets" was renamed "Red Petersburg" by the Bolsheviks. The firepower of the tractors was provided by a 76-mm cannon and two Maxim machine guns, which were installed in the tower on special ball installations. With the coming to power of the Bolsheviks, all Russian armored tractors in the amount of two pieces were put in the service of the Revolution. "Red Petersburg" was used to guard the Smolny Institute and other important venues. But "Akhtyrets" sent to Moscow. On arrival, the armored tractor was handed over to local formations of the red guards who were trying to establish Soviet power here. on November 1-2, 1917, "Akhtyrets" participated in the battles on Kudrinskaya square, Povarskaya and Bronnaya streets, supporting a detachment of the Podolsk red guard with fire. The armored tractor remained in Moscow for almost a year, after which it was sent to Kazan in September 1918. There, "Akhtyrets" was included in the 3rd armored detachment of the red army, and over the next year and a half, it was periodically used in battles on the Eastern front of the Civil war. In January 1920, the armored tractor again returned to Moscow for repairs, and was subsequently listed in reserve. 1) Red Petersburg 2) Red Petersburg armored tractor, rear view. A 76.2 mm cannon mounted in the stern is clearly visible. 3) Akhtyrets armored tractor on the streets of Moscow. November 4, 1917
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>>1178869 A certain number of vehicles of similar designs were manufactured for the white army armor plates at factories in the South of Russia. Here, work on the creation of armored tractors began in early 1919. Since the spring of 1919, the Armed Forces of the South of Russia from England began to receive tractors "Holt", "Lombard" (in red documents are called "Wisconsin" — the name of the state in the United States, where the manufacturer of the company was located), "Ruston" and "Clayton" (all these tractors were regular artillery tractors in the British army during the First World War). Work on their booking was carried out at the Sudostal plant in Novorossiysk. Already in February 1919, the 3rd armored squadron of the 2nd armored division of the Caucasian Volunteer army included two armored tractors - "Valiant Labinets" and "General Ulagay" - made on the chassis of" Lombard " tractors (tractor engine numbers 50 and 89). Each armament consisted of five Maxim machine guns. Both vehicles turned out to be quite successful and were actively used in the battles against the Reds by units of the 2nd Kuban corps. At the end of 1919, both armored tractors fell into the hands of the Reds. 1) Tests of an armored tractor built on the American Lombard chassis. The car is manufactured by the Sudostal plant, the armament has not yet been installed. Machine-gun installations are clearly visible in the side and aft of the hull. Two such vehicles were manufactured, named "Valiant Labinets" and "General Ulagay". - Novorossiysk (1919) 2) Lombard without armor 3) Lombard advertising in the USA
>>1166166 Syphilis
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1) Yakov Sverdlov, 1910 2) Felix Dzerzhinsky, 1922 3) Kliment Voroshilov and Semyon Budyonny, 1920 4) Alexander Kolchak, 1916 5) Baron Roman Fedorovich von Ungern-Sternberg in Irkutsk during an interrogation at the headquarters of the 5th Soviet army, 1921
>>1131041 I wouldn't say retarded,however he was unpopular among his own ranks later in the war,leading to a small infighting on the leadership of the white army
>>1131041 You have to remember that the whites didn't have a coherent ideology, many were nationalists who only wanted liberation for their ethnic group, many were moderate constitutionalists from abroad, whereas others wanted an absolutist monarchy, it's not that shocking they couldn't effectively work together.
>>1131041 you have to remember that some part of the white army (especially the officers) wanted to re-establish the old farming property (abolished by the Bolsheviks) that was very unfavourable to the farmers
>>1177833 People tend to be skinnier when they're younger, most Stalin pics you see are him in his 60s.
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Briefly about the Transcaspian region. The SRS, Mensheviks, Turkestan nationalists, and Russian white guards raised the Askhabad revolt in July 1918, seized the Transcaspian region, and created the "Transcaspian provisional government", which on July 26, 1918, asked the British to send military aid. 1) White Transcaspian government had an army, although it was very, very bad. Composition: a) Detachments of Russian volunteers. At the first, "democratic" stage - workers from railway workers and former soldiers from the front, as well as many officers and other volunteers. b) Turkmen horsemen from local tribes under the control of former Turkmen officers. c) Armenians from the local population of the Transcaspian region and refugees. 2) After the arrival of the British in the summer of 1918, the situation changed. English presence in Turkestan headed the British military mission in Turkistan, based in Askhabad. The mission was led by major General Malleson, whose headquarters were located in Mashhad (Iran). In the early stages of the intervention, he gave instructions by Telegraph, only from the end of January 1919 until the withdrawal of troops in April, he was constantly in Askhabad. Malleson also visited the city in December 1918. All work on the site was entrusted to captain Reginald Teague-Jones, his Majesty's representative in Askhabad. From the beginning of 1919, help began to arrive from the Caucasus from General Denikin. Replacements - mostly Cossacks of the Terek army, captured red army men, some parts of the Caucasians. There are still many officers and Armenians, but there are now noticeably fewer Russians. 3) A separate form for the Transcaspian army was supposed to develop, but the project remained a project. I don't know exactly what the Transcaspian army wore, but the information is very sketchy. The simplest assumption is that at the first stage they wore what everyone had. That is, the usual uniform, civilian clothes and national costumes. Also, individual officers, according to some sources, had English coats and white tunics - white tunics and hats-Panama hats were the uniform of the troops of the Turkestan military district: although most of them went to the Reds, the whites also got something. Also, the red army wrote that in one of the battles the enemy wore white ribbons on their headdresses - apparently to differ from the red ones, who were dressed in the same way. 4) A Distinctive feature of the war on the Transcaspian front was that it was fought along the railway and therefore of great importance were armored trains, which managed to make quite a lot, with machine guns and artillery. Because of the lack of armor, they were often armored with bales of cotton ( >>1151117 ) - such bales could easily hold a bullet from a rifle. The army also had one airplane and several old guns, ranging from three-inch guns to wedge guns, an outdated system. Due to the lack of weapons on both sides (Turkestan was cut off from other fronts, and the British could only supply the region through a narrow and difficult connection through Persia), the production of artisanal ammunition, in particular, grenades from cans, was widely practiced. 5) The intervention in Transcaspia was an adventure of the British Persian command, mainly Malleson, who was sure that the Bolsheviks would fall if they only helped the local rebels. However, the British forces were not enough, and without them the front promised to collapse. The uncertain situation lasted until the end of 1918, when it became clear that it was necessary either to withdraw troops (especially since after the end of the First World war, the opposition to Turkish troops from the Caucasus, which in theory could reach India, lost its meaning), or to strengthen its presence in the region. The latter was reckless, given that Turkestan joined forces with troops from Central Russia - and the level of the red Army had already grown significantly. Therefore, by spring, there were no English left in Transcaspia, with the exception of a small garrison in Krasnovodsk. By the way, even under malleson, he did not report directly to Him, but to India. Finally, Malleson tried to negotiate with the local government (I don't know whether it was on his own initiative or not) and suggested declaring an independent Transcaspian Republic as a self-determined territory of the Turkmen, and then legalizing it at the Paris conference. This would form a "sort of" Turkmen state under an English protectorate. The transcaspians (who were also not happy about the intervention) did not like the idea and preferred to remain a province under Denikin's rule. 1) Malleson bon - Like other parts of the Russian Empire, the Transcaspian region suffered from huge inflation, and there was absolutely not enough money for daily economic activities. In such circumstances, even the British military mission in Askhabad was forced to issue its obligations. 2) British positions at Krasnovodsk, summer 1919
Felix Dzerzhinsky with his wife Zofia Muszkat near Moscow, 1923
>>1186628 Thanks for this pic comrade, never seen it before.
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Ho Chi Minh young, 1921
>>1179026 Did Lenin really have it? As far as we know, he died of atherosclerosis.
>>1186760 Why does it seem biologically impossible for communist leaders to be unattractive?
>>1186777 the fuck? he looks like any ordinary viet you'd see on the streets not fucking adonis.
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Chief's banner, awarded to the 3rd tank auto-armor detachment of the red army from the Board of the all-Russian Association "Wool" in 1922. On the front side, above the tank silhouette, there is an inscription: "Red tanks - the revolution of agriculture in the countryside and the key to the restoration of industry in the RSFSR"
>>1178259 >A pig trained in Paris Something in this world doesn't change...
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Bolshevik nurses at the train station. Bakhmach, 1918
Nadezhda Krupskaya (graduated from gymnasium)
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Celebration of the "Victory Day" of the Turkfront on January 13, 1920 Broth and pies (from Kolchak bones). Fish (Menshevik from the compromising waters). BEF-a-La-Stroganoff (from fat bourgeois meat). Compote (sweet as Communist dreams). Ice cream (from the broken Siberian bourgeoisie). Coffee (black as a white guard soul). Cookies (Revolutionary). Cheese (transparent, like Denikin's front). Lunch starts at 19 o'clock.
>>1128859 IIRC, irregular warfare between the Soviet state and the Basmachi didn't fully peter out until 19-gotdam-36
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>>1174094 Scarlet sleeve stripes with a Golden swastika were introduced in the red army of the South-Eastern front, which fought against Denikin's units. But, first, they existed for a very short time - from November 1919 to 1920, and secondly, they were intended not for everyone, but only and exclusively for the fighters of the Kalmyk (one of the Mongolian peoples) division - as a distinctive sign. And named this figure in the order of approval is not a swastika, a sign of a "lungt". This patch was worn on the left sleeve, at shoulder level. In addition, for the soldiers of this division were a special award badge - also with "lungt". What is Lungth? This is a characteristic symbol for the entire Buddhist East, meaning the rotation of vital energy, a vortex that brings changes. Kalmyks are just Buddhists, and the meaning of "lungt" was quite consistent with the spirit of the revolutionary time. Later in the USSR, any use of the swastika for artistic and heraldic purposes was actually prohibited by the famous letter of the people's Commissar of public education Lunacharsky from 1922. The people's Commissar "hacked" the swastika and any signs similar to it precisely because it was gaining popularity among the German extreme right - the Orgesh group.
>>1198315 Already in the 20s, active propaganda against the Nazi swastika began.
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>>1198315 that is a really stylish uniform in pics, finnish red guard members and a volcano badge used by some
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Bruh, look at this dood OH NONONONO
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>>1199435 Honestly, it didn't look that bad. Absolutely scarlet uniforms were worn by soldiers from the escort of one of the top leaders of the Communist party — Trotsky. It was a kind of personal special forces-bodyguards they obeyed Trotsky and followed any instructions he gave them. The best fighters were recruited there. Soldiers from Trotsky's personal security regiment wore the special chevrons of Trotsky's special forces. They also had other insignia: for example, a silver-red steel badge with the image of a train in the middle. In General, the pattern is similar to the Chevron. 1-2) Leather jackets of Trotsky's soldiers 3) Chevron belonging to Trotsky's soldiers 4) Badge belonging to Trotsky's soldiers
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The pointy hats soviet troops wore back then makes them look like they're working for like, an evil wizard or some shit
>>1200474 Budenovka is made based on the Russian Bogatyrs helmet.
>>1200823 secret pagan symbols
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Wet fantasy of the Russian elite
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>>1200313 What front of the war is this one supposed to be?
>>1207602 That dude has the sawed off Mosin and what looks like the internal components of another Mosin.
>>1211136 Central Asia
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1) Red Hussar 2) Trotsky and the Red Hussars at Kharkov, 1919
The device of the dugout for shells of heavy batteries. Petrograd province, March 1921
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1) Red guard women's detachment organized during the days of the SR revolt. Petrograd 1918 2) Muslims in the red army 3) White
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>>1128024 >russian civil war
>>1206785 This needs serious context
>>1206785 Also the white army soldier looks like a very young joe biden,just saying.
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1) Distribution of bread. 1918 2) Communication team. 1923
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>>1128024 This flag is great.


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