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Snakes into Lions Anonymous 01/14/2021 (Thu) 03:51:00 No. 1292264
>The right wing has no leader or containment party in America now >GOP members are now converting to the DNC >we're about to get 8 years of authoritarian oligarchical neolib uniparty with nearly unlimited emergency powers It's going to get bad out there with the censorship, left or right; all wrongthinkers who disagree with whatever is played on TV are going to be silenced given enough time. A new party will start forming in the coming years and it's likely not going to be a neocon boomer one with stick in the mud prax. It's going to be a scary party without proper intelligentsia involved that lives entirely off of internet memes and demagoguery if you do not get involved during it's conception. Instead of capitalists and prole just say bankers and working class, you'd get 99% of them on board. Would you join a social-nationalist party(also known as Socialism with American Characteristics) or would you fight it on behalf of the neolib uniparty? Serious question, if you don't learn to empathize with the White underclass they're gonna go full fash with a much scarier demagogue.
The GOP isn't going away
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guys.. I thought we were going back to normalcy again :(
>>1292264 >Would you join a social-nationalist party(also known as Socialism with American Characteristics) or would you fight it on behalf of the neolib uniparty? Serious question, if you don't learn to empathize with the White underclass they're gonna go full fash with a much scarier demagogue. What kind of drugs are you smoking? Neolib is diametrically opposed to nationalism? Get a fucking grip. All this Neolib action you're bitching about is the manifestation of nationalism.
>>1292282 >>1292280 Nice two part retort.
You will have a choice in the near future: You stay with the uniparty that was confirmed during today's impeachment Or You join the new party and help form it. It could have a liongirl as a mascot if it makes you dorks happy.
>>1292293 not gonna join the furry party
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>>1292293 Option 3: You take your meds.
>>1292295 It's a refence to Sekhmet.
>>1292275 They are not going to give up their emergency powers. Never do.
>>1292264 >Socialism with American Characteristics basically dengism + race fetishism + gluttony?
>>1292276 >manifestation Okay /x/ Neoliberalism was created in the coldwar era to counter international communism as almost a type of reverse communism. Neoliberalism fundamentally believes money and corporations have human rights and that everything should be put on the market, which makes it different than regular liberalism. However, once Soviets were gone, it became completely unopposed and flew off the rails. It moves towards neo-feudalism as property rights start trumping human rights more and more, treating transnational corporations as sovereign entities. Very dangerous when combined with AI, who could technically be given rights simply by incorporating itself. Nationalism has little to do with neoliberalism, in fact, it was designed to open nations up to the markets and to flood markets with cheap labor. I suppose if you're an American, neoliberalism could be seen as 'nationalism' insofar as it helps American companies the most? 401k nationalism seems way to boomerish to me though.
>>1292338 It's very likely we will see an unironic fascist party appear in the next ten years, there's a lot of anger right and more is coming. Trump was too weak for them and the coming uniparty regime will go on witch hunts for wrongthinkers, they will go to a strongman for protection who will likely have a military background. This is likely be the only opening for a new party emerge in America for the next century. Isn't this what you all wanted?
>>1292354 If digis then jared kushner finds the fascist party of america
>>1292359 I think all the GOP'ers are too weak and most of them have already bent the knee to the DNC, at their hearts they're neolibs that just like money that will want to clean their hands of anything remotely Trump-like. Of course that won't work and they'll fade into obscurity.
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>>1292264 >Serious question, if you don't learn to empathize with the White underclass they're gonna go full fash with a much scarier demagogue. Most of Trump's supporters were petty-bouge/members of the national bouge. The White Underclass is pretty much being exterminated by drug overdose and other forms of death by despair. Now, I agree with your point that we'll probably see a new party forming soon, or ascending to power. Both the Republicans and Democrats have tried to nip the populist instincts of their base in the bud, of which the Democrats were more successful I've spoken to my own party about this several times, that the only way a third party gets off the ground is both by attacking the big two, as well as forming a broad coalition that steals certain factions away from the DNC and GOP respectively. Whether this populist coalition could maintain itself is another question entirely, but that's how it will form. The far-right is pretty much toxic to most sectors of the American public, so what you're far more likely to see are paleocons, the occasional libertarian, and bizarre ideological fusions than out and out fascists.
>>1292371 Fascists would likely appear after or during a major war, which I suspect America will drag itself into to try to 'unify' the country against a common enemy and to jumpstart the economy after covid. You would be shocked how fast people's positions change after facing conflict. This coming change energy can be used for good change or it could devolve into a military dictatorship.
>>1292371 The White underclass also includes all those urban college educated indentured servants being renters that will never escape the corporate system. The ruling class just sees them as overpaid trash that should live in pods. All this remote working is going to cause their salaries to bottom out, since they're forced to compete with the entire planet now.
>The two options are to become a US Nazi or join the neoliberals <What would you do? I’d kill your family for you even making this suggestion, then I would either end my life or try forming/helping to form socialist resistance
>>1292276 It’s just unsubtle polyp bullshit trying to pass off as leftism as usual Polyps are retarded enough to think that if they just rant about >Muh neolibs We’ll turn into nazis
>>1292354 >Isn't this what you all wanted? Man, isn’t it wild how I could clock you as a polyp with the OP and none of these other retards could? Quality has surely dropped on this board.
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>>1292264 >Fellas, what if we became Browderites again
>>1292387 >>1292380 Hmmm..... If an incredibly popular dissident party started up, us communists should infiltrate their leadership and membership and promote economic populism. When the time comes we should get rid of all right-wingers in the party a la Night of the long knives
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>Neolib is diametrically opposed to nationalism? Get a fucking grip. All this Neolib action you're bitching about is the manifestation of nationalism.
>>1292354 >It's very likely we will see an unironic fascist party appear in the next ten years Lets hope so.
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>>1292371 >The White Underclass is pretty much being exterminated by drug overdose and other forms of death by despair. I'm going to need a source, drama queen.
>>1292387 >The ruling class just sees them as overpaid trash that should live in pods GET IN THE POD DRINK THE SOY EAT THIS BUGS
>>1292482 Neoliberalism is quite literally just the modern manifestation of old fashioned colonialism Down to the lack of unions and worker’s rights Literally the only change is that the West now controls local governments and presses them into exploiting their populace for the West, rather than the West personally operating colonies themselves Also you’re not low polyp, if we had our old mods your ass would be gone for samefagging if nothing else
>>1292484 Lmao go anywhere more than an hour outside a major city
>if we had our old mods your ass would be gone for samefagging if nothing else
>>1292264 >wrongthinkers who disagree with whatever is played on TV are going to be silenced given enough time. Nothing happens to any leftists ever, why would you try to appeal with something so obviously false and stupid? You actually need examples of people getting fucked over for being a communist. Anarchist and communist organize violence on twitter under their real names and it does not matter. At best they get arrested, either they are let out a few hours later or the next day
>>1292489 Old fashioned colonialism has nothing to do with nationalism, you simply can't draw parallels where there are none
>>1292264 Why does it have to be a "white" working class party instead of a working class party for everyone?
>>1292484 Watch the documentary "Oxyana", it's nominally the story of one ex-coal town in West Virginia but that story is repeated in every ex-industrial community
>>1292721 Because only white people are working class. The others are either illegal, welfare recipients, or ultra rich.
>>1292486 Naive question, what's with the animus towards eating bugs? If you've ever eaten lobster, crab, or crayfish you have eaten bugs, just sea bugs rather than land bugs. Is the jump from sea bug to land bug really all that traumatic?
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>>1292724 lern 2 code
>>1292725 You've never held a job if you believe this.
>>1292726 Attention: You are hereby in violation of the protocols of the bearded bugmen of soy. You are thus sentenced to 30 years of pod confinement as well as mandatory soy injections in order to correct your aberrant behavior.
>>1292730 One of those should be swapped out for the "crustacean" argument which the bugmen are increasingly using. There must be 13 protocols with as little overlap as possible.
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>>1292726 Anglos can't into cuisine, for example, here in México there are amazing dishes using bugs
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>Anglos can't into cuisine, for example, here in México there are amazing dishes using bugs
I'd say that the memes against eating bugs mostly has something to do with the fact that south eastern asians eat bugs and not eating bugs is a good way to distinguish the west from the rest I guess. I myself can't really see the issue with eating insects since your beef and pork especially is filled with all sorts of chemicals that will make you gayer than any insect will.
>>1292733 Ok but what's your actual counter to the "crustacean" argument, this just seems like resentment rather than any attempt at refutation
>I myself can't really see the issue with eating insects
>>1292738 Silence, bugman.
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>>1292736 Go back to your high fructose corn syrup, faggot
>>1292741 Rule 8 violation. I should really turn this thing into a bingo card.
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>>1292743 Here's my argument.
>>1292742 I am actually curious what sort of issues eating insects would bring really? The whole pod shit is cringe though, I am much more worried about pods than eating fucking bugs.
>>1292742 Seethé at being an uncultured swine
>>1292746 The issue is bugs are icky and you're a cowed neoliberal subject unlike the guy you're replying to, oppositional defiance disorder is the main trait of Nietzsche's ubermensch after all
>>1292746 You'll have nothing to eat nothing but nasty bug guts and all other food will be priced out of the market. And don't think c*mmunism will fix it either because the party will stick with whatever is cheapest and most efficient instead of what people actually want.
>>1292264 I do not care about the mutts who believe to be white no
>>1292749 So what exactly is your solution to this problem then really?
>>1292749 What people want is shaped half by advertising half what's on the market, take chicken or beef out of the market and people will stop wanting them, at least after a while. If you want chicken or goat or cows you'll need a house with a decent sized backyard and the responsibility to feed and care for those animals yourself.
>>1292465 >entryism cringe
>>1292738 You eat the tails of those by twisting and pulling them off which also removes the shell and guts. Bugmen eating cockroaches just grind it into paste and eat it guts and all. There is testimony of even the most ardent soyboys puking at the taste and texture. And this is what they want to force upon us as our only source of protein.
>>1292757 Utopian
>>1292264 >our only two choices are a literal neo-Nazi party and the neoliberal status quo of misery yeah i'm just gonna grill until some Maoist movement comes up tbh
>>1292754 We need an extensive anti bugeating propaganda campaign so that more people will reject the concept of eating bugs. Do your part by making gross pictures of soyboys eating bugs so that people will be less receptive to the notion.
>>1292763 Why does it have to be bugs with awful exoskeletons like cockroaches? Grubs are chewy and you can fry them
>>1292763 Less postey More med takey
>>1292769 I think that most people will just sort of look at you as if you're some sort of schizo if you post about people eating bugs though. I really do think this mostly just comes down to racism against asians, which is the most acceptable form of racism in the west at the moment.
>>1292770 I already explained it to you anon, anglos are uncultured
>>1292774 >which is the most acceptable form of racism in the west at the moment. Nah the most accepted form of racism in the west is racism between white ethnics, nobody gets cancelled for making fun of Italians, Frogs, or Poles
>>1292776 Cool it with the racism.
>Less postey >More med takey
>>1292779 The only acceptable racism should be against angolos.
>>1292781 oh no those poor oppressed anglos suffering from systemic racism
>>1292774 I never would have thought my disgust at eating insects stemmed from my subconscious bias against asians. Especially since I wasn't aware that they ate bugs before today. I'm sure glad you're here to think for me and tell me what I believe.
>>1292789 This, but unironically.
>>1292781 >Anglos >A race A race of subhumans
>>1292789 >Systemic racism Shut the fuck up, shitlib
>>1292779 >Italians, Frogs, or Poles none of which are white tho
>>1292797 Shut the fuck up, cracker.
>>1292796 the joke your head
>>1292797 >>1292799 >>1292800 As usual, liberals ruin all the fun
>>1292301 Take yor vax
>>1292794 They were celts back then.
>>1292301 >Option 3: You take your meds.
>>1292810 >hyper soyjak and his pills meds 2.gif post the first
>>1292792 I'm talking about the origin of the meme, I'm sure you just picked it up because some dude who actually looked like the soiboi posted a soiboi meme with some dude who ate bugs.
>>1292814 I made multiple identical copies with different hashes to get past image filters and bans.
>>1292816 I created all the anti bugeating memes in this thread myself with the exception of >>1292739 which I like to believe was inspired by my efforts. It is my moral duty to fight the bugeating scourge before it's too late and we are all doomed to become bugmen.
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>>1292757 >What people want is shaped half by advertising half what's on the market, take chicken or beef out of the market and people will stop wanting them, at least after a while. <You WILL eat the bugs and you WILL like it!
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>Yes
>>1292829 >>1292832 who gives a shit lol? Crickets turned into literl protein powder that costs literally jackshit sounds better to me than a steak that costs as much as a car. You're a true paragon of the working class, comerade
The ruling class: impoverish people that thus have to resort to eating bugs The leftists: "nom nom, actually bugs ain't that bad" the political point ---> the commie peanut brain <--- as always
>>1292829 >Gretna Be gone, nonce.
>>1292838 wealth is when you eat red meat, the more red meat you eat the richer and better you are
>>1292843 >the political point ---> the commie peanut brain <--- as always
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>>1292794 Lol cope kraut
>>1292845 The people are impoverished no matter what, and they're more being forced to eat chicken than they are bugs. If any food item is representative of poverty and precariety, it isn't bugs but poultry.
>>1292845 >the commie:say anything >you: le point ---> Le commie peanut brain <--- as always
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>>1292834 and mccancer burgers
>>1292834 Why pay money for b*gs when you can eat roadkill for free?
>>1292838 the ruling class: aggrandize the wealth of society and blame it all on MUH uighurS IMMIGRANTS AND JEWS the rightists: omg so based! reform is possible if we get rid of the bad peepul!!
>L*nxchan
This won’t happen lol This whole fixation on how “we have to win over the white right” is fucking stupid. Apoliticals are a) more numerous, and b) more winnable than magapedes. Besides, right-wing populism/ Proto-fascism is a uniquely petty booj phenomenon.
>>1292861 Why should we even want people like this anyways? They run scared for the first sign of trouble and anyone of fighting just seem to be mommas boy who just went along for the edgy rightiod ride.
>NOOOO CAPITALIST UNCONTROLLED GROWTH IS FORCING ME.TO EAT BUGS >THIS IS COMMUNIST'S FAULT based retarded poltards
>>1292861 How are apoliticals more winnable? They are apolitical precisely because they recognize that political action in any form only reinforces the status quo, that there is no possibility for it to improve their lives, you plan on convincing these people how?
>>1292864 Yeah. We need to stop immigration.
/pol/
Too many people. Halt immigration.
>>1292868 the only way to stop immigration is to invest in the countries the immigrants are coming from, set up factories, schools, and every other type of infrastructure.
>>1292868 >>1292870 Immigration exist as a necessity to have a surplus of labour Good luck asking porky to stop it lol >Let's have national capitalism then! Good luck facing the internal contradictions of capitalism lol
>>1292872 No, that doesn't stop immigration, immigration is a necessity of capitalism
>>1292872 Actually enforcing the borders is cheaper and more effective. And unlike your method, it's proven to work.
/pol/
>>1292875 global minimum wage and safety standards will alleviate the need for immigration and the rootlessness of capital
>>1292877 not really lol, you're just playing wack-a-mole forever instead of addressing these people's problems at their root
>>1292874 >Immigration exist as a necessity to have a surplus of labour inb4 banning abortion or forcing births at a replacement rate is suggested
>>1292879 The iron curtain worked quite well. Spending trillions fueling their economies forever other the otherhand will not work. Eventually their population will swell in size while yours shrinks and they will emigrate anyway for free land.
>>1292872 China is doing exactly that in Africa. and they are getting more immigration instead of less lol.
>>1292884 Surplus labor is unnecessary. Scarcity of labor improves worker's bargaining power and thus improves living conditions. >>1292872 We tried that before, but you bitched endlessly over it. It was known as colonialism.
>>1292907 Colonialism and direct investment aren't the same, all the infrastructure set up in colonialism was meant to serve the colonizers, not the people who lived under the colonial administration
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Posting bugjaks owns the libs. They love eating bugs and being shown the ugly truth hurts their asses.
>>1292264 >social-nationalist party Trash. Im going yo be a socialist.
>>1292877 Immigration is a wedge issue in the US that borders on idpol. The immigration in the US is lower than it’s ever been. This isn’t Europe. Every immigration argument is always some succdem policy argument assuming we’re tweaking the current system rather than advocating complete change.
>>1292902 Source on that? Also, which part of africa? That’s the key here
>>1292264 I will be back at brunch thank you very much.
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>MFW I wake up and see what happened to the thread Very disappointing that people would rather be lifestylists and jingoists. >>1292861 Apolitcal people are just vibers and will just nod their head to whatever. If you believe you can't change peoples' minds then you've already lost, you might as well quit politics.

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