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Comrade 09/03/2020 (Thu) 17:50:08 No. 4601
BRAINSTORM THREAD Post every single idea you have, no matter how stupid or insignificant, for combining or using current technology to get closer to revolution or a socialist society. Just post at least one idea.
An app that shows which houses have AirBnB in them so you can fight gentrification by carefully choosing which house's walls to piss on while crawling home drunkenly.
Hack into self-driving cars and make them run down porkies. Could use machine learning to teach cars what porky looks like, akin to those google captcha tests. Bunkerchan could use such captcha implementation so that all posters teach AI to recognize porkies.
We train an AI to capitalism and when it inevitably buys out every company in existence we pull the plug.
>>4601 Create a social media network that matches people together based on their jobs and once i has a large enough user base in at least a few industries (you can directly target certain professions for advertising) use it to spread union propaganda or integrate it with a party or the iww or some shit
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>>4601 Grocery store chains in particular utilize digitization to a significant degree today. Cash registers are directly connected to the inventory system, and keeping an eye on available stores only calls for cursory inspections and small corrections to make sure volumes coming in and going out more or less match. The internet permits that this data can, and often is, funneled up for processing and analysis, as is information from warehouses (which also use reports to resupply to shops). Similar technologies are used in many forms in many kinds of conglomerates. The problem with all this is the fact that this knowledge is atomized and spread out across several separate organizations and systems. If standardized data-forms for different purposes of such kind were created, and all parties would post their data openly and more or less in real-time, much greater efficiency, deeper society-wide analysis, and synergy could be achieved. Greater insight into the real, extant market and economy would without question incentivize more dynamic competition, and would also allow smaller (and more flexible) businesses to more easily find untapped niches and exploitable market-opportunities. All the technologies of this concept already exist and are being used as we speak. Computers and inventory systems, the internet, all the parts and pieces... The only thing that needs to be done is to put these parts together, to connect the systems. The boons of the internet and the information age should be taken to their full potential! Thank you for coming to my TED Talk. Quiet part: Of course all this would take corporations, the profit motive, and capitalist businesses in general a step towards obsolescence, since it is in all but name a system of decentralized planning. But don't tell Porky that.
>>4628 This is a great idea actually, although we should use Facebook or someshit
A computer program that functions as an interactive "book" by augmenting text with maps (and possibly other info). I was reading Plutarch's Lives and had to constantly refer back to the map at the beginning of the book to even have a clue of the spatiality of the conflicts described. Worse yet, there were no maps for the battles, like the famous naval battle of Salamis where the Greeks repelled the Persians. Imagine a computer program (or web site I guess), with text on the left side (directly from a book) and maps / info on the right. As the user advances from paragraph to paragraph, the map changes, updated with information from the text. Needless to say the data cannot be automatically gleaned from the text, it would have to be finely crafted by a human that understood the text perfectly. The ideal use case is a description of a battle, in which formations of soldiers would move on the map as you are reading about their maneuvers.
Barter but it's simpler to get exactly what you want in exchange for what you have. There are numerous obvious problems with this idea that makes it impractical, especially for real world use. I have no clue how I originally came up with this, whether or not it already exists, it's relevance to socialism, or if it's even useful. Here you go, tear it apart. Suppose there exists an IT system where anyone can requisition one or more things, as well as post things for exchange. Suppose someone requests a bucket, worth $4 (the $4 can represent any measure of value). They also post a few things they are willing to exchange to fulfill any their requisitions, like 30 eggs. Well, nobody who wants a $4 worth of eggs (lets say that comes out to a dozen eggs) has an equally valued bucket posted as an item of exchange. However, somebody wants a dozen eggs and can exchange an equal value scarf, and someone else wants a scarf for a bucket. The system then chains all these exchanges together in this way: Person 1's eggs -> Person 2 Person 2's scarf -> Person 3 Person 3's bucket -> Person 1 Their stuff is checked, and it turns out Person 2's scarf is actually only worth $2 or for whatever reason is not as promised, in which case the system will replace it with someone else's offer or the next best possible chain that produces equivalent results. Let's say we replace person 2's offer with two other people, one of which wants a dozen eggs for a knife and the other wants a knife for a scarf. The system recalculates the chain as the following: Person 1's eggs -> Person 4 Person 4's knife -> Person 5 Person 5's scarf -> Person 3 Person 3's bucket -> Person 1 After one last check, everything is exchanged simultaneously and the items are withdrawn.
VPNs Every DSA chapter should have one.
Intermittent Internet outages
>>5099 Something like that exists for human kidneys. You are not allowed to buy or sell one of your kidneys, but you can donate it to your spouse. Your kidney might not be compatible with your spouse and there are other people in the same situation and a centralized data base arranges swaps between these people. The computational issue comes from the swap-ring size. It is very easy to compute things if you either only allow pairwise swaps or have no limit whatsoever on the size of a swapping ring. But with a huge swapping ring it's practically a given that something will go wrong, so you need a limit. If you want big swapping rings to work out, you can't rely on people promising delivery of something, each thing in a big ring has to be stored in escrow somewhere before the ring is announced by the Computergod.
>>5104 I already have those for a year now and it is very beneficial. All the extremely online members of the household immediately come out of their bunkers. The technicians don't know how to fix it. But if they would I would secretly install one of those timed power adapters where you can set at which hours the electrical current passes through.
>>4716 it's a, quote unquote, computer "book".
An app that tells you what housing auctions are going on so people can collectively have penny auctions at the local court house.
>>4716 probably doable. Get a job at google, use their AI research + capital + computing power to train multiple layers of algorithms to abstract from the text and transfer that into an image (it will be owned by google) i dont know why anyone would want this though, of course also this is a joke dont make good shit for google but also for real they're a leader in machine learning and have vast resources that you dont so F
>>5099 ive seen local things like this, but functionally they're debt-based decentralized currencies (which i think is cool - i dont think currency or debt are really the problem, especially when they just help out as a sort of reputation system linking small producers together) so in that kind of system im talking about, you can have like: john has chickens and so has excess eggs mary has lots of tomatoes rupert makes textiles (and they're alienated fucks or smth like the rest of us and wont just give their excess to friends, neighbors, and family, and mary doesnt like canned tomatoes or tomato sauce okay) mary wants the textiles, john wants veggies, and rupert wants eggs without care for balance, rupert sells mary textiles for some amount, john sells rupert some eggs, and mary sells john some tomatoes being in negative balance is expected sometimes but you accrue no interest as it's not owed to anyone, because you can give more than you have, so it functions as a merit system more than anything, with limits on the lower amount of debt and making mandatory that people who are buying are also producing/offering things for sale
Why don't we just replace currency with cyprto currency It would make things way more easy to use however it would be hard to control the value.
>>4603 Spoken like a true anarchist.
>>4716 you could probably use eye-tracking technology to update the map
>>5316 Why don't we replace capitalism with cybercapitalism? Reminder that a very small percentage of wallets own most of the available cryptocurrency, just like in real life LMAO
>>5391 >Inb4 the JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOZ
>>4633 use linkedin to unionize the pmcs
>>5435 Will the companies try to stop these? Shouldn't the left not work on those corporate platforms? >>5267 The cops exist.
>>4601 A wiki of sorts with profiles on politicians, organizations, and individual content creators. Each profile contains a series of sourced lists of: promises made, and kept/broken; declarative statements made; "true or false"/factual claims made; sources of funding (available in charts); directly associated individuals/organizations; and direct consequences of various activities. So a profile could look something like these: >Name: Dave Rubin >Funded by Koch Brothers [1 - $UNKNOWN] >Claims to be a classical liberal [2] >Name: Donald Trump >Promised to build a wall on the border of the United States and Mexico [1] [2 - BROKEN] >Associated with Steve Bannon [3]
>>4631 You are only describing EDI Here is my idea OP. Create an open standards body for federated economic planning. Open material recording format. Open ERP. Open demand forcasting. Open bookkeeping. Etc.
>>5104 Best suggestion, it always comes to mind when I think of the need to consume less to be more sustainable, and how that would actually lead to a greater quality of life, not worse. You could shut down all except essential electrical appliances for a couple of hours a day or something and it would unironically help stop climate change and make people's lives better, probably a lot better

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