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 No.16261

Nobody ever talks about this, but the United States was in Haiti for longer than it was in Vietnam. July 28, 1915 – August 1, 1934 (19 years and 4 days). During the US occupation of Haiti, two major rebellions against the occupation occurred, resulting in several thousand Haitians killed, and numerous human rights violations – including torture and summary executions – by Marines and the Gendarmerie of Haiti. A corvée system of forced labor was used by the United States for infrastructure projects, that resulted in hundreds to thousands of deaths. Under the occupation, most Haitians continued to live in poverty, while American personnel were well-compensated. Death estimates have a high range, and I think the uncertainty of the statistics betrays how little Haitian lives were valued by the (mostly white) US marines, who frequently wrote letters home describing the Haitians as subhuman.

>3,250–15,000 Haitian deaths

>Hundreds to 5,500 forced labor deaths
>National bank of Haiti and its gold seized by US authorities

<"Military camps have been built throughout the island. The property of natives has been taken for military use. Haitians carrying a gun were for a time shot on sight. Machine guns have been turned on crowds of unarmed natives, and United States Marines have, by accounts which several of them gave me in casual conversation, not troubled to investigate how many were killed or wounded."

<NAACP executive secretary Herbert J. Seligman wrote in the July 10, 1920, The Nation

The United States introduced Jim Crow laws to Haiti with racist attitudes towards the Haitian people by the American occupation forces that were blatant and widespread. Many of the Marines chosen to occupy Haiti were from the Southern United States, specifically Alabama and Louisiana, often the grandchildren of confederate veterans, resulting in increased racial tensions. Racism has been recognized as a factor leading to increased violence by American troops against Haitians. One general described Haitians as "n***ers who pretend to speak French".

The torture of Haitian rebels or those suspected of rebelling against the United States was common among occupying Marines. Some methods of torture included forcing prisoners to drink large quantities of water in a short period of time, leading to gastric distension, water intoxication, and possibly death, hanging prisoners by their genitals, and "ceps," which involved pushing both sides of the tibia with the butts of two guns.

The Americans used the now-familiar "counter-insurgency" "tactics" of treating everyone in the country as guilty by association with armed rebels, failing to treat the inhabitants of the country as human beings, killing and burning down towns and villages indiscriminately, deforesting and destroying agriculture, poisoning water.

When Charglemagne Peralte, the rebel leader was killed, the marines stripped his body naked, desecrated it, took photos of it, and dropped printed photos from their airplanes all over Haiti to discourage further insurgency. However, it had the opposite effect, with the image's resemblance to a crucifixion making it an icon of the resistance and establishing Péralte as a martyr.

Woodrow Wilson forced the re-writing of the Haitian constitution so that foreigners were allowed to own private property. This opened the floodgates for the American capitalist plunder of Haiti.

Comprador leader Louis Borno took out more loans from the US to cover Haiti's debt, which was already equal to many years of government budget, debt which Haiti was already in for over a century by that point because France forced indemnity on them through gunboat diplomacy for the crime of… slave rebellion and declaring independence…

The US-backed Borno regime oversaw the use of forced labor to expand the economy and to complete infrastructure projects, which were used to reintroduce large sugar plantations to the island, for the purposes of turning Haiti into a cheap export economy for US consumers.

Many Haitians fled Haiti for the Dominican republic and Cuba only to find US marines were also occupying those places at the time. They had no way to escape.

In 1929 the US marines massacred Haitian protesters during a general strike.


>burger general

please, no, this is about burger imperialism in Haiti.

 No.16262

One major campaign issue at the time was pulling troops out of Central America as well. US GIs were notorious for being rapists and condemned in alternative progressive media and by socialist or fellow traveler publications from the likes of the anti-imperialist society or US socialist parties.

 No.16263

Who gives a fuck about Haiti.

 No.16264


 No.16265

>>16264
Correct answer!
*dances*

 No.16266

Op I’ve known this for years. It’s not just Haiti but the whole of SA has had its development stunted by US presence, ironically enough not to the USAs benefit beyond the people that payed for all that abuse(rich people but a specific subset of rich people) since all it did was fuel gangs and make it hard for anybody in the USA to establish healthy trade relations with any country not named china. Mexico is at least some symbol of hope for the region since its genuinely a decent place to live compared to most of the planet but that’s not saying much considering the country is way behind on what it could’ve been

 No.16267

>>16263
One of the nations most destroyed by colonialism, imperialism, capitalism, and climate change, on the entire planet. A nation of people whose wealth was looted, whose landscape was destroyed, who have nowhere to run to, and nowhere to hide. Asking who gives a fuck about Haiti is a good question because the answer is *not enough* people do.

 No.16268

burgers really piss me off

 No.16269

It would be shorter to list places the US has not intervened.

 No.16270

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>>16269
too true

 No.16271

>>16270
America moment

 No.16272

>>16263
I assume Haitians. And apparently, America.

 No.16273

>>1479053
Ask the UN for help.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/un-haiti-peacekeepers-child-sex-ring-sri-lankan-underage-girls-boys-teenage-a7681966.html

>>16261
>Nobody ever talks about this
Probably because there are just too many such cases of imperialist crimes to talk about all of them

 No.16274

>>1479018
the haitians threw their french slave masters out 200 years ago. assimilate with what? Are you really surprised they developed their own dialect of a language that was forced onto them in the first place? They were brought to Haiti from many different West African countries, and the languages of those countries ended up getting mixed up with the French they were forced to speak. Why don't you speak Old English?

 No.16275

>>1479018
post chin, cumskin

 No.16276

>>1479018
I hope that one day that I will get to see people like you put against a wall and shot.

May the Haitian Revolution survive until the end of time!

 No.16277

>>16263
The US was absolutely terrified of it, especially its example of slave revolt, which they lived in literally existential fear of coming to the US. The US spent the next few decades utterly destroying it and the remaining century keeping it permanently destroyed.

 No.16278

The US occupation had mixed results
They reintroduced forced labor for infrastructure projects, but they also gave the country a pragmatic educational system that taught them technical skills, allowing for the formation of an independent middle class and some heightened living standards
They were definitely a bit distinct from the French colonists before them, which just saw Haiti as a pool of low-skilled labor to be kept subjugated forever

 No.16279

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>>1479018
>lel, stealing that one
you won't say it outside of the internet

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>>16278
>The US occupation had mixed results
oh brother here come the bothesidism liberal apologetics
>They reintroduced forced labor for infrastructure projects
not infrastructure projects that benefited the country, infrastructure for the US military in its occupation of the island, and infrastructure for US corporations looting Haiti
>but they also gave the country a pragmatic educational system that taught them technical skills
pragmatic for who? technical skills to what end? Pragmatic for the american bourgeoisie. technical skills for a corrupt regional comprador bourgeoisie to better serve their colonial overlords
>allowing for the formation of an independent middle class and some heightened living standards
>middle class
>heightened living standards
wow you really are hitting every liberal bullet point. the US military seized haiti's national bank, seized haiti's gold, lynched a leader of their resistance movement, terrorized the local population, took literal slaves, raped women, treated them as subhuman, reintroduced "infrastructure" for sugar plantations so that haiti could go back to being a source for cheap raw resources (sugar) and and destination for expensive finished goods and helped deforest the island so that there's no roots holding together the soil, making mudslides and flooding a lot worse than it would otherwise be.

>They were definitely a bit distinct from the French colonists before them, which just saw Haiti as a pool of low-skilled labor to be kept subjugated forever

This is literally how the US saw Haiti at the time. The US literally took their gold and built a bunch of "infrastructure" to make them into sugar planters again. 100 years earlier the US was helping enforce Haitian debt to France for the crime of freeing themselves from slavery.


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