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'The weapon of criticism cannot, of course, replace criticism of the weapon, material force must be overthrown by material force; but theory also becomes a material force as soon as it has gripped the masses.' - Karl Marx
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 No.18573

Preface: This handy set of rules covers most of the games which disinformation artists play on the Internet (and offline). When you know the tricks, you’ll be able to spot the games. Even if you’ve read this list before, you might be surprised at how useful it is to brush up on these tricks.

Update: This was originally apparently written by H. Michael Sweeney.

1. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. Regardless of what you know, don’t discuss it — especially if you are a public figure, news anchor, etc. If it’s not reported, it didn’t happen, and you never have to deal with the issues.

2. Become incredulous and indignant. Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side issues which can be used show the topic as being critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or theme. This is also known as the “How dare you!” gambit.

3. Create rumor mongers. Avoid discussing issues by describing all charges, regardless of venue or evidence, as mere rumors and wild accusations. Other derogatory terms mutually exclusive of truth may work as well. This method works especially well with a silent press, because the only way the public can learn of the facts are through such “arguable rumors”. If you can associate the material with the Internet, use this fact to certify it a “wild rumor” which can have no basis in fact.

4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent’s argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.

5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as “kooks”, “right-wing”, “liberal”, “left-wing”, “terrorists”, “conspiracy buffs”, “radicals”, “militia”, “racists”, “religious fanatics”, “sexual deviates”, and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

6. Hit and Run. In any public forum, make a brief attack of your opponent or the opponent position and then scamper off before an answer can be fielded, or simply ignore any answer. This works extremely well in Internet and letters-to-the-editor environments where a steady stream of new identities can be called upon without having to explain criticism reasoning — simply make an accusation or other attack, never discussing issues, and never answering any subsequent response, for that would dignify the opponent’s viewpoint.

7. Question motives. Twist or amplify any fact which could so taken to imply that the opponent operates out of a hidden personal agenda or other bias. This avoids discussing issues and forces the accuser on the defensive.

8. Invoke authority. Claim for yourself or associate yourself with authority and present your argument with enough “jargon” and “minutiae” to illustrate you are “one who knows”, and simply say it isn’t so without discussing issues or demonstrating concretely why or citing sources.

9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues with denial they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.

10. Associate opponent charges with old news. A derivative of the straw man usually, in any large-scale matter of high visibility, someone will make charges early on which can be or were already easily dealt with. Where it can be foreseen, have your own side raise a straw man issue and have it dealt with early on as part of the initial contingency plans. Subsequent charges, regardless of validity or new ground uncovered, can usually them be associated with the original charge and dismissed as simply being a rehash without need to address current issues — so much the better where the opponent is or was involved with the original source.

11. Establish and rely upon fall-back positions. Using a minor matter or element of the facts, take the “high road” and “confess” with candor that some innocent mistake, in hindsight, was made — but that opponents have seized on the opportunity to blow it all out of proportion and imply greater criminalities which, “just isn’t so.” Others can reinforce this on your behalf, later. Done properly, this can garner sympathy and respect for “coming clean” and “owning up” to your mistakes without addressing more serious issues.

12. Enigmas have no solution. Drawing upon the overall umbrella of events surrounding the crime and the multitude of players and events, paint the entire affair as too complex to solve. This causes those otherwise following the matter to begin to loose interest more quickly without having to address the actual issues.

13. Alice in Wonderland Logic. Avoid discussion of the issues by reasoning backwards with an apparent deductive logic in a way that forbears any actual material fact.

14. Demand complete solutions. Avoid the issues by requiring opponents to solve the crime at hand completely, a ploy which works best for items qualifying for rule 10.

15. Fit the facts to alternate conclusions. This requires creative thinking unless the crime was planned with contingency conclusions in place.

16. Vanishing evidence and witnesses. If it does not exist, it is not fact, and you won’t have to address the issue.

17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can “argue” with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.

18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can’t do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how “sensitive they are to criticism”.

19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the “play dumb” rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon). In order to completely avoid discussing issues may require you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.

20. False evidence. Whenever possible, introduce new facts or clues designed and manufactured to conflict with opponent presentations as useful tools to neutralize sensitive issues or impede resolution. This works best when the crime was designed with contingencies for the purpose, and the facts cannot be easily separated from the fabrications.

21. Call a Grand Jury, Special Prosecutor, or other empowered investigative body. Subvert the (process) to your benefit and effectively neutralize all sensitive issues without open discussion. Once convened, the evidence and testimony are required to be secret when properly handled. For instance, if you own the prosecuting attorney, it can insure a Grand Jury hears no useful evidence and that the evidence is sealed an unavailable to subsequent investigators. Once a favorable verdict (usually, this technique is applied to find the guilty innocent, but it can also be used to obtain charges when seeking to frame a victim) is achieved, the matter can be considered officially closed.

22. Manufacture a new truth. Create your own expert(s), group(s), author(s), leader(s) or influence existing ones willing to forge new ground via scientific, investigative, or social research or testimony which concludes favorably. In this way, if you must actually address issues, you can do so authoritatively.

23. Create bigger distractions. If the above does not seem to be working to distract from sensitive issues, or to prevent unwanted media coverage of unstoppable events such as trials, create bigger news stories (or treat them as such) to distract the multitudes.

24. Silence critics. If the above methods do not prevail, consider removing opponents from circulation by some definitive solution so that the need to address issues is removed entirely. This can be by their death, arrest and detention, blackmail or destruction of their character by release of blackmail information, or merely by proper intimidation with blackmail or other threats.

25. Vanish. If you are a key holder of secrets or otherwise overly illuminated and you think the heat is getting too hot, to avoid the issues, vacate the kitchen.

https://web.archive.org/web/20191015193936/http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/05/twenty-five-rules-of-disinformation.html

 No.18574

>>18573
Many gurus use these tricks here in India to exploit bunch of local folks and foreigners with their world salad and cheap magic

 No.18575

Eight Traits of the Disinformationalist

1) Avoidance. They never actually discuss issues head-on or provide constructive input, generally avoiding citation of references or credentials. Rather, they merely imply this, that, and the other. Virtually everything about their presentation implies their authority and expert knowledge in the matter without any further justification for credibility.

2) Selectivity. They tend to pick and choose opponents carefully, either applying the hit-and-run approach against mere commentators supportive of opponents, or focusing heavier attacks on key opponents who are known to directly address issues. Should a commentatorbecome argumentative with any success, the focus will shift to include the commentator as well.

3) Coincidental. They tend to surface suddenly and somewhat coincidentally with a new controversial topic with no clear prior record of participation in general discussions in the particular public arena involved. They likewise tend to vanish once the topic is no longer of general concern. They were likely directed or elected to be there for a reason, and vanish with the reason.

4) Teamwork. They tend to operate in self-congratulatory and complementary packs or teams. Of course, this can happen naturally in any public forum, but there will likely be an ongoing pattern of frequent exchanges of this sort where professionals are involved. Sometimes one of the players will infiltrate the opponent camp to become a source for straw man or other tactics designed to dilute opponent presentation strength.

5) Anti-conspiratorial. They almost always have disdain for 'conspiracy theorists' and, usually, for those who in any way believe JFK was not killed by LHO. Ask yourself why, if they hold such disdain for conspiracy theorists, do they focus on defending a single topic discussed in a NG focusing on conspiracies? One might think they would either be trying to make fools of everyone on every topic, or simply ignore the group they hold in such disdain.Or, one might more rightly conclude they have an ulterior motive for their actions in going out of their way to focus as they do.

6) Artificial Emotions. An odd kind of 'artificial' emotionalism and an unusually thick skin – an ability to persevere and persist even in the face of overwhelming criticism and unacceptance. This likely stems from intelligence community training that, no matter how condemning the evidence, deny everything, and never become emotionally involved or reactive. The net result for a disinfo artist is that emotions can seem artificial. Most people, if responding in anger, for instance, will express their animosity throughout their rebuttal. But disinfo types usually have trouble maintaining the 'image' and are hot and cold with respect to pretended emotions and their usually more calm or unemotional communications style. It's just a job, and they often seem unable to 'act their role in character' as well in a communications medium as they might be able in a real face-to-face conversation/confrontation. You might have outright rage and indignation one moment, ho-hum the next, and more anger later – an emotional yo-yo. With respect to being thick-skinned, no amount of criticism will deter them from doing their job, and they will generally continue their old disinfo patterns without any adjustments to criticisms of how obvious it is that they play that game – where a more rational individual who truly cares what others think might seek to improve their communications style, substance, and so forth, or simply give up.

7) Inconsistent. There is also a tendency to make mistakes which betray their true self/motives. This may stem from not really knowing their topic, or it may be somewhat 'freudian', so to speak, in that perhaps they really root for the side of truth deep within.

I have noted that often, they will simply cite contradictory information which neutralizes itself and the author. For instance, one such player claimed to be a Navy pilot, but blamed his poor communicating skills (spelling, grammar, incoherent style) on having only a grade-school education. I'm not aware of too many Navy pilots who don't have a college degree. Another claimed no knowledge of a particular topic/situation but later claimed first-hand knowledge of it.

http://whale.to/b/sweeney.html

 No.18576

https://blog.cyberwar.nl/2019/06/twenty-five-ways-to-suppress-truth-the-rules-of-disinformation-h-michael-sweeney-1997-2001/

This one is more in depth on how to respond to each of 25 disinformation tactics written by another person adding on to it

 No.18577

>>18574
Makes sense. I was thinking about how news outlets and think tanks use these tactics on general populations

 No.18578

>>18573
No fucking way hahahaha .org is literally posting articles from the washington post and giving advice on how to do a heckin fact check, trust the experts, and “combat” misinformation hahahaha you can’t make this shit up this site has gone down the shitter

 No.18579

>>18578
This isn't washington post

 No.18580

>>18579
Oh I misread the link but it might as well have been hahahaha

 No.18581

>>18580
This is the person who wrote this. He's like a prepper. Go thru his blog you'll see

https://proparanoid.wordpress.com/

 No.18582

>>18581
>like a prepper
>some literal whos blog
Sounds extra retarded then. Anything that talks about combating “misinformation” gets a huge eye roll

 No.18583

>>18582
Great. If you clicked on it you'd see the person is a run of mill /Pol/ type person talking about new world order and targeted individuals. It is not an ordinary article writer from a MSM paper

 No.18584

>>18583
God every elaboration you make just makes it sound gayer and gayer just stop

 No.18585

>>18584
Cool. You misinterpreted entirely why i posted. This above. "Trusting the experts" is the stupidest thing possible as are fact checkers and "combatting misinformation" which you all mentioned.

I posted this in regards to MSM using these tactics to PSYOP populations into believing things by emotionally manipulating them. News outlets, fact checkers and "experts" should have 0 trust all they do is propagandize

 No.18586

>>18585
>I posted this in regards to MSM using these tactics to PSYOP populations into believing things by emotionally manipulating them. News outlets, fact checkers and "experts" should have 0 trust all they do is propagandize
Holy shit anon I actually never thought about that. This is a crazy groundbreaking discovery!

 No.18587

Look at all they have to do to seem correct
All we have to do is ask them to question their assumptions

 No.18588

>>18575
Having seen a lot of disinfo artists
this is pretty weak
but I might adopt the label, I think I want to be a disinfo artist, sounds way more fun than a regular shitposter

 No.18589

>>18585
Dear sir, madame, comrade, citizen or beautiful, extravagant other,
I'm here to politely inform you that you seem to be getting drawn into the very thing your article warns against.
:-O

Ad hominems, name calling, emotional attacks, etc.

So perhaps be aware of that and then secondly, I'd like to add to your lists something I did not observe from a quick perusal, the tactic:
dilute.(1)
Isn't that in the three "D's" of information warfare?
Or is it four?
Dilute, distract, demoralize, destroy?

At any rate, yeah, if you haven't, and if you feel so inclined of course, you can look up textbooks and etc on ol libgen there, the search phrases: "memetic warfare" (which apparently even the United States Marine Corp wrote a book on),
"information warfare",
"psychological operations"
and, you know … all the rest.
It's my belief that the internet has ushered in a Golden Age of Disinformation and taken "manipulating the masses" to extremes *unparalleled in the history of mankind*!
That not hyperbole, btw.
I really believe that.
And could go on in some detail.
(See: Chapter 7 of Nicholas Carr's "The Shallows'" for a general idea though.)

(1) so for instance with dilution we can, as any smartie worth their salt, learn from any and all similar patterns, in this case yes even the infamous and infernal "4pol" and see how easy it was to completely, to use common internet vernacular, "shit up" that board when the valiant and vigilant (and quite visionary, I do say) "C.R.E.S.T. Research" (like some James Bond villain, that name though, huh?) flooded their crapsack backwater with thousands of AI bot created posts daily and diluted their culture with meaningless drivel. And thus: demoralized da chinlets.
Observe their,
"Mining the Chans: Combating Right-wing Extremism Online":
—-begin quote —-
Given the limitations of traditional tools, more out-of-the-box tactics should be considered. One such tactic would aim at gradually making these boards less interesting for their users.

One way to achieve this would be to regularly post content that looks genuine (using the right language, imagery, etc.) yet is meaningless – this would dilute the message of these boards and make their threads uninteresting, thereby reducing their attractiveness and sense of community.

Recent developments in artificial intelligence enabling researchers to automatically generate credible extremist sentences make such a tactic cheap and easy to implement.
===
AHEM:
>One such tactic would aim at gradually making these boards less interesting for their users.

>One way to achieve this would be to regularly post content that looks genuine (using the right language, imagery, etc.) yet is meaningless – this would dilute the message of these boards and make their threads uninteresting, thereby reducing their attractiveness and sense of community.


>Recent developments in artificial intelligence enabling researchers to automatically generate credible extremist sentences make such a tactic cheap and easy to implement.


https://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.crestresearch.ac.uk%2Fresources%2Fmining-the-chans%2F


https://archive.is/xyhPC

It's worth reading the whole thing.

Stephane Baele
& Lewys Brace…

Heroes to us all.

And think a minute about the implications of that.
Because what can be used against le chüds… can also be used against le anyone. Any online forum or board perceived as a threat to the established, globalist, neoliberal order. (Or whatever. It's just a pattern and the pattern can be replicated is my point here)
The solution?
Well online I'm not sure there is one besides memorizing logical fallacies (which isn't very helpful in this instance but still worthwhile),
having *very good* bot detection measures in place (better than the US, Russian, Chinese, Whomever? "TPTB"? With them deep deep pockets? Good luck!),
creating "ai bot armies" of your own [picrel] (same drawback as above, we're up against adversaries with, like I say, "deep pockets", the deepest in fact, though perhaps decentralization works in our favor?)
And that's about it
*sigh*
Or perhaps the answer can be found in song?
https://youtu.be/Grm4sMZChz8

Know your first causes.
Know your openers argument (better than they do)!
Start strong, end strong!
Stay human.<3
Love you all.

 No.18590

"Disinformation" doesn't have rules. There are some general patterns but bad faith discourse adapts to its contexts.

 No.18591

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 No.18592


 No.18593

>>18591
>obligatory "ZOMG this is cointelpro u guys" reference
It's like these people just don't learn what cointelpro was or who it targeted.

>fun shitposts are literally a conspiracy

I get what they're saying, and if it were an actual serious board and not just /v/, it might have some good points about concern trolls and low-content posts. I'm 80% sure this is just some GG autist who wants /v/ to be their personal army, like the neo-nazi organizers desperately trying to turn disaffected gamer nerds into disciplined warriors.


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