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'The weapon of criticism cannot, of course, replace criticism of the weapon, material force must be overthrown by material force; but theory also becomes a material force as soon as it has gripped the masses.' - Karl Marx
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 No.18995

Another newfag thread. Interact with accordingly.

Their is, unsurprisingly, a large contingent of the worlds population, still hinging on old Red Scare propaganda, that are convinced of many lies about the relationship between socialism and artistic freedom. Too them, socialists are violent fearmongers who will, at the first chance given, desecrate art, destroy art, and attempt to lead a truly bleak life. One confined purely to the factory or work, where 'labor' is everything, where the individuality of life is wiped out in an instant. Of course, we all understand here that capitalism is the force that sucks up our individuality in favor of making productive workers. Art is not something that can be usually seriously pursued: gone are the days when feudal lords used to commission artists for year long paintings, sculptures, and portraits. We live in an atomized society.

That's not the point. What is the point is that to decide that socialism and art are inherently polar and incompatible is a brainwashed way of thinking. This is most often applied, arguably, to our conceptions of the Cultural Revolution in China. We all have heard about the four olds: Old Ideas, Old Culture, Old Customs, and Old Habits. And people who have even a surface level understanding hear alot about the destruction of cultural heritage during the 10 year period. Modern China even refers to the Cultural Revolution as "Shi nian haoji". "Shi nian" means 10 years, referring to the period of which the Cultural Revolution is generally regarded as lasting. "Haoji" is ambiguous, but generally can refer to the term "holocaust" in modern settings: destruction by fire. Images of a human horde (orientalist hogwash) destroying valuable historical pieces of art come to mind and are used today in the US to scare conservatives over the spectre of vague 'modern art'.

The accusation of destruction of culture and tradition during those 10 years, which i'll be examining, is incredibly overblown in face of the massive artistic achievements and leaps in cultural creativity during the event. An excerpt from "The Battle For Chinas Past: Mao and the Cultural Revolution", page 28.

>Take the example of the fine arts. During the Cultural Revolution years of 1972 to 1975 China held four national fine arts exhibitions, with more than 2,000 pieces of art selected from 12,800 works recommended from all over China. The exhibits in Beijing attracted an audience of 7.8 million, a scale never reached before the Cultural Revolution (Lu Hong 2002). According to Lu, the four exhibitions showed three characteristics: new ideological content, new subject matters, and a rise of amateur artists (65 per cent of exhibited works were created by amateur's). These artworks included oil paintings, Chinese traditional paintings, print paintings, sculpture, Spring Festival paintings (nian hua), picture storybook paintings (lianhuan hua), charcoal drawings, watercolours and paper cuts.


This even extends to literature. From that same page:

>Another myth created and accepted, at least by non-academic community, in the west is that during the Cultural Revolution people were forbidden to read anything except Mao's little Red Book. This portrayal of China as a cultural wasteland is absolutely false. By 1976 there were 542 official magazines and journals and 182 newspapers in circulation throughout China; the number of cinemas and film units had increased from 20,363 to 86,088 in 1976; public libraries, from 577 to 768; and museums, from 214 to 263 (Qiu Deshend et al. 1993).


An excerpt from Mao's conversations with his niece:

>Hai-jung: But there is the son of a cadre who doesn’t do well. In class he doesn’t listen attentively to the teacher’s lecture and after class, he doesn’t do homework. He likes to read fiction. Sometimes he dozes off in the dormitory and sometimes he doesn’t attend the Saturday afternoon meeting. On Sunday he doesn’t return to school on time. Sometimes on Sunday when our class and section hold a meeting, he doesn’t show up. All of us have a bad impression of him.


>Chairman: Do your teachers allow the students to take a nap or read fiction in class?


>We should let the students read fiction and take a nap in class, and we should look after their health. Teachers should lecture less and make the students read more. I believe the student you referred to will be very capable in the future since he had the courage to be absent from the Saturday meeting and not to return to school on time on Sunday. When you return to school, you may tell him that it is too early to return to school even at eight or nine in the evening, he may delay it until eleven or twelve. Whose fault is it that you should hold a meeting Sunday night?

 No.18996

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okay so i spent like 20 minutes trying to find out what tf "haoji" is in hanzi until finally finding "shi nian haojie"/ 十年浩劫。
and now i completely forget what other point i was going to make whoops.

 No.18997

>>18996
(OP here) sorry :[
nevertheless, I hope my points stand at the very least

 No.18998

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Good post. The claim that the cultural revolution was a dark time for popular expression is completely nonsensical anyway, this movement was launched with and accompanied all along by dazibao, people were just writing stuff on paper and posting it everywhere. For the hyperonline grassophobes, imagine if China was a giant and very loosely moderated imageboard. Imagine if you could go outside and just completely legally put up a poem, some propaganda or a shitpost in A2 format almost anywhere.
One could argue that never before a collective of humans experienced a more or less horizontal cultural and social experimentation on this scale.

 No.18999

>>18998
people generally both understate and overstate the effect of the cultural revolution at this point. they overestimate the physical violence; which certainly, without a doubt, did exist; to an extent which makes it seem like for 10 years china was just a giant warlord state of roaming red guard factions. but then they understate the, y'know, cultural impact; the huge swath of art, literature, and revolutionary cultural projects; that emerged out of the revolution.
i'm not even a maoist or ML and I understand it was one of the greater events in human history, especially in terms of mass mobilization.

 No.19000

Don't be so hard on yourself calling this a "newfag" tier thread. Quite the opposite, it proves by itself that you read; that fact alone places you in the top 1% of the leftypol userbase, most of who simply watch youtube videos and repost shit from Twitter.
But next time post it on /edu/, where it won't be slid off the catalog as easily.
I enjoyed reading it, at least one paragraph relayed information I didn't know about before.

 No.19001

>>19000
/edu/ is where I was originally going to go, but the posts there are generally one or two liners that ask for PDF recommendations, or starting a reading group, or something else like that. obviously no shame in that; information must be something obtained and must be analyzed in a group; but i've been posting here for the simplicity that it gives some visibility + can be an educational series of sorts. i'll be posting more threads on the cultural revolution; you'll see them crop up here over the next few days

and thanks for the acknowledgement of reading. I had to hand transcript it onto my computer (causing earlier mess up of writing "shi nian haoji" and not "shi nian haojie"). it took some time but I liked how the thread came out

 No.19002

>>19001
oh, and speaking of which: feel free to post any relevant thread ideas on the cultural revolution. i'd be happy to crawl through them and see what I can find


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