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 No.29039

Post films that are about actual proletarian life or maybe even about normal people in general. Basically
>no Hollywood ideology
>no bourgeois ideology or moralism
>little to no liberal ideology or moralism
>doesn’t fetishize poverty or portrays poor people as a mythological group
>doesn’t set up people who need to be redeemed by liberalism
>etc.
Basically films that actually portray normal people as normal people. Not as simple or underdeveloped or anything.

 No.29040

>>29039
An example of a liberal Hollywood movie opposite to what was described
>poverty is simultaneously shamed and upheld as some virtue filled humble situation
>his salvation for both him and his son exists in finance capital
>finance capitalists are portrayed as saviors and benevolent humanitarians taking a “chance” on him and granting him a fruitful life
>bourgeois class reality is upheld as some free and ideal reality that needs to be chased after

 No.29041

>>29040
Forgot pic

 No.29043

>>29041
lmfao i remember having this shown in primary school

 No.29044

>>29041
Another less extreme example. Insultingly implies that
>a proletarian being smart is an “anomaly” and can only be explained by being naturally gifted
>he’s actually destined to be bourgeois because of his abilities but unfortunately found himself in a temporary bad situation.

 No.29051

>>29041
i feel so bad that this was a childhood movie i liked watching

can't escape capitalist propaganda anywhere

>>29043
the brainwashing starts early, look up clips of this movie, all views in millions, full of proles fooled into thinking just one more day and they'll make it

 No.29052

>>29044
Honestly I never liked this film, Robin Williams is a treasure as usual, but the film itself is narrative nonsense, and the court scene makes me laugh.

 No.29065

Outside of burgerland this kind of films have been very trendy since at least 2008 crash.

Tbh I'm really tired of realistic social dramas that regurgitate the same mildly leftist message targeted at middle-class Keynesians who want to feel good about themselves. Every year same boring shit at elite film festivals, with very few exceptions. European filmmakers now think it's immoral to be interesting when the theme is so serious.

Eastern yuro films are better at this. It's a whole different situation and atmosphere when you see everything going from socialism to social collapse in your life span and the liberal masturbation is pointless. But in exchange you get more bleakness and cynicism. Plemya is a great one, Ukrainian film made right before the 2014 coup (since then they're exporting anti-Russian and nationalist propaganda films which get praised at Cannes lol).

Chinese films are also better, but the best ones IMO are not about "normal everyday prole life". Often more lumpenprole than prole, there's some crime involved, etc. Look up Jia Zhankgke and Diao Yinan.

I liked the Rider btw.

 No.29085

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Seeing a lot of complaining about liberal films (rightfully, tbh) and not a lot of suggestions

 No.29087

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>>29085 (me)
More

 No.29095

>>29065
I like Wong kar wai’s films. They always revolve around normal people and the environments they live in. He (or rather Christopher Doyle) portrays both the people and environments as vibrant and complex. Normal going ons are worth shooting and displaying in a bold way and I think that’s very proletarian. Also I’m regards to the whole Asians filming lumpen based movies, i usually notice that it isn’t a celebration of them as western media tends to do. They are always depicted as different in social standing and are just there for cool factor above else.

 No.29208

>>29039
What do you mean by "Hollywood ideology"?

 No.35945


 No.35966

What do cunts here think of Mrinal Sens work? I checked out Calcutta '71 and it fell into every trap the typical bourgeois artifact masquerading as pro-labour steps in.

>>29085
Latter is dogshit. Re-packaged nihilism for Capital Realism morons.

 No.35986

You don't think "Hollywood ideology" or moralism can concern depictions of """"""normal people"""""" (the very idea of what's "normal" aka hegemonic is political/ideological)?

 No.35988

i really like this indie art film called "Axel in Harlem" you should definitely check it out if your interested in real prole film.

 No.36005

Gummi, underrated gem. Especially since I've noticed it's even harder to find media about rural working class folks that attempts or even has the capacity to be honest without being disrespectful or judgemental.

 No.36006

>>36005
Gummo*

 No.36007

>>36005
I find it interesting too how much that film is reviled for being "exploitation" when it is basically a documentary

 No.36008

"Welcome to the dollhouse" by todd solondz
Was originally gonna be called "faggots and retards" but was changed in marketing
Its a slice of life about poor suburban kids, losers in their own right, figuring things out
Todd solondz's other film "happiness" is really good, not strictly proletarian though

 No.36009

>>35986
Touch grass ffs

 No.36010

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ALL of mike leigh's films
His best is probably secrets and lies
Then Naked

Meanwhile
All or nothing
Life is sweet
Etc.

 No.36011

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This is england is good
If it was made by amerikans it would be a moral-fest like american history x

 No.36012

>>29095
In the mood for love is a magical movie

 No.36013

>>29044
The whole movie is Will fighting the system, including that anti-NSA speech, but everyone in his life wants him to sell out and become some egghead pencil pusher
It is individualist drivel ultimately


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