/hobby/ - Hobby

>>31551
Yeah but what about artists who will starve now that their jobs have been automated?

>>31552
Luddites said the same about the fabric industry. To this day more clothes are made in sweat shops by human hands than ever before. People will use AI art for the mundane like advertising and macros, but like modern artisans, hand made stuff will always be more valuable if they are higher quality. Not to mention the huge avenue opened to artists fixing AI art while letting the machine do the grunt sketch work.
Artists against AIs are reactionaries.

>>31559
The Luddites were unironically correct though. They were just off by a couple centuries. Even the neoliberals admit in their studies that automation is responsible for many job losses. Much of the "tech industry" are just disguised automation of workers in order to increase competitive pressure and unemployment - like how Uber destroyed unionized taxi drivers and forced a race to the bottom.

How do we feel about this news.. Based?

> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/video/henry-cavills-next-play-warhammer-40000-series-for-amazon-thr-news/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fplwMnb1h9A&t=56s

>>31560
>Artisan are right
<I'm not feudalist I swear!!!
(((you)))

>>31575
>Acknowledging that the Luddites were right about automation destroying jobs means you have to support feudalism
wow anon please continue to show us how to play your favorite game

>>31560
>automation is responsible for many job losses.
I don't think that's actually true. A socialist society would employ everybody, and the advances in automation would be used to reduce the work-day, make people work 6 hours instead of 8 to 10.
Some of the economic automation bonus would also be spend on raising the level of ambition for certain projects.
I think job-loss is a capitalist thing, not a technology thing.

Only capitalists seek to replace workers with automation. A socialist society would see automation as a way to increase the productivity of workers. Which is a more realistic goal.

What the capitalists are doing doesn't make much sense because they are trying to proletarianize capital it self. It doesn't actually end the class struggle. If they make machines that can do all the things that workers can do, they will have created machine workers with the same class interests. Class struggle transcends the substrate.

Also the capitalists aren't really investing much into technological advances anymore, so the future isn't racing towards us anymore, it's a really slow crawl.

>>31580
>machine workers
??? no,they would just devalue the rate of profit by replacing labor with dead labor,since the machines are capital themselves. (or in non marxist terms,they are destroying the loop of the economy by producing commodities that nobody can buy because of no wages)
Class struggle doesn't transcend humanity or sentience,that would be twisting Marx's writing in the weirdest way I've read so far.

>>31581
>no,they would just devalue the rate of profit by replacing labor with dead labor,since the machines are capital themselves.
>they are destroying the loop of the economy
It depends, if machines don't reproduce, then yes it's just going to be dead labor. Eventually all the machines will be depreciated and the hole thing winds down like a clockwork that nobody is winding up anymore.
However if the capitalists could manage to make the machines reproduce them self, the machines would stop being capital and they would become workers.
Humans are biological machines that produce all the things in the economy and they also reproduce them selves. If the workers didn't make new workers there could not be economic surplus.

>Class struggle doesn't
Of course class struggle is not limited to humans. I doubt you could make non-sentient machines that can do all the things that workers do. If you make the machines reproduce all the abilities of workers, you'll end up reproducing the mental processes that workers have as well.

>>31582
Ah yes, Hegel's Master Slave dialectic is pertinent here

I'm to this day impressed with how much love and attention fans of WH40K give their series, especially in regards to fan animations

Was watching the Space Marine animation from like, 2011 the other day, and holy crap is it fucking awful.

>>36989
C- amv

>>31582
doesnt the whole notion of machines reproducing themselves smack of perpetual motion

>>37005
No because they use external energy sources?

>>37003
You mean the official Ultramarine movie? I couldnt even watch it becquse of how awful the animation was.

>>37010
>the official Ultramarine movie
>awful animation
????

>>37010
Yeah, I would really recommend watching it. I just had it on while I did other stuff which… mitigated it. Somewhat. It was hard to tell exactly what was happening to who because everyone looks the fucking same.

>>37012
It's really bad. It looks like you're watching a Starcraft cinematic.

>>37013
For 2010 that's not bad at all unless you're expecting Pixar tier 3D from a small company? And yeah the animation is actually pretty decent, it's not choppy, the movements aren't sudden and jerky and the textures are relatively well done. You can say the eyes are a bit off with a deadish look but that's just a limitation of the program it was made in.

>>37022
Animation was absolutely not "decent" in any way, shape or form. Virtually any post 2000 video game had better cinematics than this. Even models look outdated, there is no weight to anything, half the movie takes place in duststorm, colours are desaturated, and sound design is fucked, with nothing sounding like it should.

>>37024
>Even models look outdated
Not really, the textures of the human faces is a bit lacking, but its certainly better than a lot of 3D shit I saw in that time that wasn't made by a large professional studio.
>sound design is fucked
Absolute nonsense, there is some parts that could be better modulated, but those are minor issues that aren't significantly noticeable
>saturation
which make sense for the setting and environments they're in.
>no weight to anything
The fuck are you talking about? Each character moves like a real person, or as close to it as the software can manage, the plates of armor shift and move, there's visible effort in the physical motions of characters etc.

Again the most criticism would be for the facial animations
>Virtually any post 2000 video game had better cinematics than this
Absolute fucking nonsense, up until the later 2000s most cinematics and cut-scenes for vidya was fucking stilted as hell, Cawadoody had some of the better animations and it wasn't good either. You're also dismissing that vidya cutscenes and cinematics are much shorter, are produced by professional animation companies with actual budgets. There's a reason that cinematic level animation didn't really appear in actual vidya until the 2010s, and that being the heavy graphics load. industry standard graphic cards and the massive rendering farms of professionals are on a whole different level compared to what amounts to a large fan-project, especially since 3D rendering is a lot harder in some aspects like graphics compared to 2D animation which can be replicated more easily (relatively) by an animator.

>>37025
Dawn of War came out like 7 years before that and it's opening intro looks a lot better.

>>37029
Can you not read?
>vidya cutscenes and cinematics are much shorter, are produced by professional animation companies with actual budgets.

>>37031
Doesn't change the fact that the smurfs movie looks like shite you wrong faggot.

>>37032
>Doesn't change the fact that the smurfs movie looks like shite
Ok and what is the relevance you caustic twat?

>>37033
the relevance is that your justifications for this sub reboot piece of shit looking like crap are wrong and you should consider suicide

>>37036
>All this no-argument word-salad
Take your own advice.

Tzeentch is based, praise Tzeentch, heil Anarchy, and fuck the spooked Redditor Emperor.

>Why can’t communists be more like genestealers?
Just a question, because genestealers actually get shit done.

I’m not saying you should get infected by an alien parasite that causes you to birth monstrosities and puts you in thrall to an alien menace intent on devouring your world, but it seems like there’s many things we can learn from genestealers.

Genestealer pros:
- Actually overthrow the bourgeois tyranny.
- Have women treat being impregnated by genestealers as a sexual fantasy.
- Disciplined, fanatical, dedicated; willing to sacrifice their lives for the Day of Ascension.
- Work hard in order to infiltrate the bourgeois hierarchy, diverting useful resources for the revolution.
- Able to infiltrate bourgeois high society and obtain influence over elites.
- Get laid, a lot.
- literal psychic intergalactic bug soldiers
- Able to trivially spread ideology via the genestealer’s kiss.
- Tear through bourgeois battle tanks with nothing more than their own bodies.
- Able to evade detection in a total surveillance state.
- Interface psionically with each other and outside support.
- Not tear each other apart in orgies of infighting.
- Did I mention, actually get things done?

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Hivestrain_Azure

>>41685
DONT LISTEN TO THIS POST COMRADES, GENESTEALER HANDS TYPED IT
REPORT THIS TO THE LOCAL INQUISITOR IMMEDIATELY. DO NOT FALL FOR ITS LIES
THE EMPEROR PROTECTS!

>>41685
I will try to paint my first genestealer cultist this week, wish me luck.

I love the rightoids desperately coping about the fact that Warhammer was and still is a game made largely by a bunch of lefties.

Yes, I'm sure them giving third place to a model of an Ork trukk (the Orks being a species of stupid and violent savages who are basically the setting's comic reliefs) flying the Confederate flag was an endorsement of Confederate ideology.

And I'm also sure the Imperium's slogans were always meant to be completely unironic and to be taken at face value as genuinely sound maxims and not as a clear parody of fascist propaganda.

And don't forget
>An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded.
>Blessed is the mind too small for doubt.
>Innocence proves nothing.
>There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
>Happiness is a delusion of the weak.
>To Question is to doubt.
>Prayer cleanses the soul, Pain cleanses the body.
>Hatred is the emperor's greatest gift to humanity.
>A small mind is easily filled with faith.
Among many others!

And who can forget the tagline for the series
>To be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions. It is to live in the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Forget the power of technology and science, for so much has been forgotten, never to be re-learned. Forget the promise of progress and understanding, for in the grim dark future there is only war. There is no peace amongst the stars, only an eternity of carnage and slaughter, and the laughter of thirsting gods.
Clearly a utopian civilization and the sort of society the creators were hoping you would take personal advice from.

>>41703
I mean TBH I think the rightoid freaks are a bit 'stopped clock is right twice a day' in that the Imperium is being whitewashed to make it more marketable, the original actual antifascist satire is being lost

>Warhammer was and still is a game made largely by a bunch of lefties.
Liberals are not leftists. The original creators may have been leftist, but the company? No. Rick Priestley literally left the company before 2010 because of how it started to focus on making money and marketing rather than making a good game.
>Posting a 4chan collage-pic of an Eceleb liberal
Can you not? Go back.
This change is just performative white-washing. The lore literally says there are no female Custodes and explains WHY, so retroactively changing this is retarded tokenistic pandering, especially since, in doing so, you lose the entire Roman-fascist satire that The Imperium is about as >>41704 mentions, OR what we get are literal savage gay fascists. Good job!

Also Games Workshop has made a lot of retarded changes to WH40K lore over the years and it's almost never been liked by anyone, even when it had nothing to do with gays and women, the ONLY reason it's getting any attention now, is BECAUSE of the idpol involved. Not every game or movie or whatever needs to be inclusive, this is a bourg marketing way of thinking. There is media that is primarily aimed towards specific interests of girls or boys, men and women, gays and straights. You don't expect a man to go to chick-flick and demand more action-hero men to be involved, or for someone to play a gay VN and demand there be a straight option.
>giving third place to a model of an Ork trukk (the Orks being a species of stupid and violent savages who are basically the setting's comic reliefs) flying the Confederate flag was an endorsement of Confederate ideology.
<complaining about Orks on /leftypol/
This is JUNGLE GANG territory, newfag.

>>41705
>You don't expect a man to go to chick-flick and demand more action-hero men to be involved, or for someone to play a gay VN and demand there be a straight option
companies would probably make more money if they did this though

>>41706
LOL no, they wouldn't, not in the long-run. There could be a few niche releases with such 'expectation-subverting' content, but if you start applying it to the whole genre it loses cohesion and interest. You see this pretty obviously with Star Wars, people weren't uninterested in female MC's but when every new story is wanking women off and poorly written, people lose interest, which is why Rise of Skywalker made poorer figures than Last Jedi and why subsequent Star Wars TV-shows have been hemorrhaging money.

Just as an aside, an example of what I mean by Games Workshop fucking up the lore is what they did with the Necrons in the 5th Edition. The old Necron lore was pretty good, tortured souls serving eldritch gods who took advantage of their suffering, cursed to fight forever or until destruction while trapped in unfeeling metallic bodies. Turning it into discount Space-Egypt Mummies that USE god-fractions for battle, even thought it undermines the C'tan being arrogant bastards that got most of themselves killed because of it.

Like I haven't really indulged in WH40K like others do, I was more in it for the stories and whatever rather than the literal table-top aspect, but I've lost interest because of the changes. Sure, not all the changes were awful, but most were.

>>41707
this makes me realize no one suggests adding male sisters of battle

>>41709
There you go.

>>41709
no one wants more moids but every trve male wants space marine amazons.

>>41709
people do that usually when female space marines are mentioned.

>femboy sisters of battle
yes please

>>41709
Now I want to see that just to witness the trainwreck that would be GW way of handling it.

>>41705
1) The chinlets first started getting mad at GW because they released a statement saying that fascism was bad and the Imperium is supposed to be villainous.

2) Custodes aren't space marines. They're not even related to them, they're an entirely different thing. There has never been any lore that contradicts the possibility of female Custodes because the Custodes are created by mysterious and highly secretive achaeotech from the Dark Age of Technology and *don't* use the emperor's geneseed.

3) Le jungle meme wasn't about Warhammer orcs, but LotR orcs, due to bad early Eastern European translations of Lord of the Rings actively attempting to turn the novel into a Cold War allegory.

>>41725
>chinlets first started getting mad at GW because they released a statement saying that fascism was bad and the Imperium is supposed to be villainous.
<implying that everyone that liked or played as the Imperium is a chinlet and not just someone roleplaying a tabletop game.
<implying people only got mad at GW for changes to the Imperium
They said fascism is bad, but they didn't just say "it was villainous" because that's redundant; EVERY side of WH40K is villainous in some regard, there is not a single faction of actual good guys because every race or faction is some sort of fucked up,. That's the ENTIRE point, it's ALWAYS been the point. Also /pol/ literally did not care, they embraced the "bad guy" narrative because it's the narrative they get anyway, so it changed very little for them.

People have been getting mad at GW for a long time and for many more reasons than "muh Imperium", I later give the specific example of the Necrons, and that change being wildly unpopular, along with other changes in the 5th Edition that had nothing to do with inclusivity or political 'goodness' of the Imperium.

>Le jungle meme wasn't about Warhammer orcs
Actually yes it is, idiot. Also it's ORK's if you're going to be playing at semantics.
>LotR orcs, due to bad early Eastern European translations of Lord of the Rings actively attempting to turn the novel into a Cold War allegory.
That's not why at all, and you're wrong about the translations too, muddling The Last Ringbearer and actual translations. The Jungle Gang meme comes from Josep Borrell's statement about "Europe is a Garden" and that the (evil) third/second world countries are the untamed jungle savages trying to invade it. The orc part of it comes from memes about liberals claiming LOTR orcs are black people (which is retarded, see the LOTR thread) and an earlier /pol/ post on 8ch/leftypol/ about how the Alt-Right sees its fight with communists and 'subhumans' as "humans vs orcs" which wasn't LOTR specific and actually has massive WH40K influence, there's LITERALLY a screencap of that post on the booru and in the fantasy thread.

>Custodes aren't space marines.
Where did I say that? Are you just copy-pasting this from reddit?
>There has never been any lore that contradicts the possibility of female Custodes
Yes there is; Custodes are the SONS of those deemed traitors to the human race by The Emperor. They received their position as a form of repentance for the sins of their families, a practice similar to some Ancient monarchist societies about taking the sons of enemies and making them servant-warriors, sometimes being castrated (the Custodes are incapable of reproduction if I remember correctly). The Silent Sisterhood is the female counterpart to the Emperor's other, male-centric hyper-elites.

Furthermore the Custodes, Thunder Warrior, Astartes and Primarch projects are linked to one another and none ever came up with female subjects because the entire point was to create super-soldiers of extreme power, and in the case of the Custodes a basically an asexual comrade-guard to the Emperor. A male body is biologically more powerful than a female's in the physical sense, making a female Custodes pointless, not to mention the fact that the process to create the Custodes or any enhanced project is so physically taxing that only a small percentile of the human population is physically eligible as a CANDIDATE. It's why the Sisters of Battle aren't about overwhelming physical strength relative to the male-centric groups (they're still strong, but they won't be beating a Space Marine in an arm-wrestling contest). Further-more as you literally confirm my words, the Imperium is fascistic; do you see a lot of openly fascist governments pushing for gender equality in their military forces? The Nazis were almost prohibitive, with what few female troops they had being extreme exceptions that confirm the rule of a male-only military. Do you understand why its contradictive as hell to both claim that "it's a parody of fascism" and then simultaneously pander to gender-equality that contradicts said fascistic narrative? As I said it's literally promoting a Gay/Female Nazis narrative, so if that's a good thing to you, then you do you.

Edit: Did some extra research to be sure
>The Emperor's Decree from Old Night during the Age of Strife: "These men are my bodyguards, their lives forfeit to the guarantee of my physical safety. Of their loyalty to me there shall be no question nor doubt. I, and I alone, shall have the authority to stand in judgement over them. No other commander shall they have in battle nor in service. None shall bar them from me and none shall hamper or stall their mission. So it is decreed!"

Finally, with the exception of the matriarchal command structure of Genos Regiments and Sisters of Silence, the Emperor had a strong male bias in his elite, top-tier fighting forces, as befitting a FASCIST EMPIRE.

>>41731
>genetic engineering so advanced it can create demigods but it can't bridge differences in muscle mass between men and women
retard

>>41731
>Custodes are the SONS of those deemed traitors to the human race by The Emperor.
Pretty sure this have been retconned a couple of times already

>>41817
to be fair , the entire setting is retarded.

>>41817
>retard
>it can't bridge differences in muscle mass between men and women
Why waste the time and resources for the extra step required to do this when it's easier to just take male candidates? It's a fascist regime, not a daycare center, retard.

>>41818
>Pretty sure this have been retconned a couple of times already
The Emperor's Decree I posted is actually on the wiki article for them. I don't think this has been retconned before. Then again I haven't played WH40K since the 5th edition and haven't been following for quite a few years either, so it's possible. Still stupid and still a retcon and directly contradicts the statements that "there's nothing in the lore saying there can't be a female Custodes".

>>41819
>Why waste the time and resources for the extra step required
No one knows what the steps actually are, because Custodes are made through highly secretive archaeotech.

What we do know is that, unlike space marines, the process of creating one of the Custodes actually starts in late infancy rather than late puberty, when the difference in muscle mass between males and females would be negligible.

>>41819
>Why waste the time and resources for the extra step required
Something the imperium famously never does! You might as well argue against the gold armor or get offended by female members of the imperial guard.

>>41831
>>41832
My point is that a highly patriarchal empire isn't going to go for females because they won't see the point of it and again the point stands, the lore on it is that they are the SONS of traitors and are called MEN by the Emperor so the claim that there were always women in their ranks or the claim that the lore does not contradict there being women in the Custodes ranks is untrue and IS a retcon. The company CAN retcon it, but they cannot legitimately claim that it "isn't actually a retcon" as they and their defenders have attempted to. Furthermore, it's a tabletop game, literally nothing is stopping people from playing it how they like, including making a female Custodes and ignoring the lore (as people have been doing for Space-Marines and others for years anyway, it's been done before. The company knows this so the only reason they're making this a public retcon announcement is for liberal clout and Edrama, successfully so.