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 No.35172

Classic yet controversial genre. Of course, it falls into tropes and mythologizes this era. At the same time, you have to admit, it can be good media. Share your favorite films, books, games and etc.
My favorite western scene was the end scene of The Searchers. I don't know why but the music, the framing of the shot. And maybe its because it was the first film to properly introduce me to western films, but I love it.

 No.35173

Fun fact: Stalin loved westerns.

 No.35176

Spaghettis:
I think my favorite I've seen so far was Once Upon A Time In The West. Top tier movie.

Good the, Bad, and The Ugly was pretty good but the characters, plot, and pacing had problems.

A Fist Full of Dollars was meh, the poor mans Yojimbo.


American Western Movies:
All American Westerns I've seen never really left that much of an impression on me. I've seen Shane and Magnificent Seven and probably a some others a long time ago, but they were kinda hoakey to me from what I remember. Treasure of The Sierra Madre is a classic. Good through and through

Saw The Shootist recently. Was kinda good. Nice acting and characters but I think a lot of problems with the plot.

Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid is another classic too.



Western TV:

Saw some episodes of Wagon Train and uhh I forgot something else on TV at a hotel a few months ago and they were surprisingly well acted and had complex stories for television.



Modern Western movies:

"Modern Western" as in present day I liked: Hell or High Water. Really good film, I recommend.

All the remakes I've seen were kinda meh and forgettable. Can't remember if I've seen any of them besides 3:10 to Yuma


Fievel goes West was one of my favorite movies as a kid. The animation is balls to the wall. Probably some of the best ever done.

 No.35336

The Iron Horse, a sort of Western film, John Ford's first, made in the 20s so it's silent. It's about the workers that build a railway and the villain is a capitalist.

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Unforgiven (1992) is definitely one of the best contemporary/revisionist westerns. It's similar to The Irishman in that it's looking back on decades of genre films and stripping away the romanticism.

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>>35173
Not just him.

 No.35367

>>35366
The Appaloosa. Great acting and a good small-town frontier story.

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>>35172
My fav overall might have to be the Cohen Brothers' True Grit. Fantastic film. I absolutely loved Shanghai Noon when I was younger, too.

Otherwise, some Westerns that I find interesting are:

High Planes Drifter. It sticks out to me more than most. It's unusual for the time in that the protagonist is clearly a bad person - not just an outcast like in the Sergio Leone Westerns, but a genuinely unlikeable man who sexually assaults a woman early in the film (though weirdly, it is treated as a romantic moment by the score; I have a feeling it was meant to be more shocking and uncomfortable than romantic, however).


Here's two you may not have heard of: Last Man Standing, starring Bruce Willis and Last Man Standing starring Sharon Stone and Gene Hackman. Fist is kind of a gangster film set in a frontier town, can't really remember much about the second other than that Gene Hackman is an evil sheriff. It's been ages since I saw either of them, so I can't remember how good they are.

Finally, Dead Man starring Johnny Depp and directed by Jim Jarmusch. Solo guitar score, black and white. Weird, but worth seeing.


>>35337
Seconding Unforgiven, I'm quite fond of it.

 No.35373

>>35371
> (though weirdly, it is treated as a romantic moment by the score; I have a feeling it was meant to be more shocking and uncomfortable than romantic, however)
Yeah she immediately tries to murder him. Composer probably just didn't get the memo.
>Last Man Standing starring Sharon Stone and Gene Hackman
You mean The Quick and The Dead but typed the same title twice. The movie also has Russell Crowe and Leonardo DiCaprio. It's a Sam Raimi directed spaghetti western about a gunslinger tournament. It holds up pretty well tbh.

 No.35374

The japanese remake of unforgiven is gut

 No.35375

>>35173
>>35366
Hitler as well. Though I don't think you can really extrapolate anything from it. The Western was simply a super popular adventure genre for kids and adults and American South West was one of those places that was a big mystery to the rest of the world still. Though I do find it funny the books Hitler read as a kid was written by a German who wrote them before he ever visit America lol

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The Ballad of Buster Scruggs is pretty divisive, mostly because people expected a standard movie about the titular character but it turns out to be an anthology based on several short stories. Tonally it's all over the place, as much as it could possibly be. It goes from Looney Tunes straight to Kafka. If you can get past that, there are some gems in here. The prospector story starring Tom Waits in particular is a popular one.

However, one of the shorts has a shockingly dated (racist) depiction of Indians, treating them like video game mooks charging straight into gunfire with no sense of self-preservation, losing maybe a dozen just to attack two people. Indians don't otherwise appear in a meaningful capacity and that particular short revolves entirely around Indians acting like orcs, so it's extra glaring. Idk what they were thinking with that one and tbh they definitely deserve to catch shit for it.

 No.35380

Brazilian cinema had a few western-inspired movies about the cangaço era and the most famous director, Glauber Rocha, just happens to be a massive Marxist with his favourite topic being religion as the opiate of the masses. Deus e o Diabo na Terra do Sol (known internationally as "Black God, White Devil") is about a cattle herder who kills his own boss and flees to join the religious zealot criminals he meets along the way, and Dragão da Maldade contra o Santo Guerreiro (also known as "Antonio das Mortes") is a sequel about the previous bounty hunter antagonist who is guilt consumed about being hired to hunt down the last remaining cangaço group and ends up joining them against the town's oligarch. You can find both on YouTube with decent English subtitles and I deeply recommend them if you enjoy third world surrealism, characters ranting in long proses, and wacky kayfabe fights.

 No.35391

>>35373
>You mean The Quick and The Dead but typed the same title twice
Whoops, my mistake. I didn't know Raimi directed it as well? That's pretty cool. As I say, it's been a while since I've seen it.

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Is anyone else going to watch Scorsese's new Western film that's coming out?

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Anyone seen Sisters Brothers? Saw it sometime last year. I'm too smol brain grug to write a review so I'll just say I enjoyed it a lot. Loved the ending. Suprisingly comfy at times.

Really appreciate the small moments of them doing & experiencing things like simply getting food, the toothpaste, visiting the big city, showering in the hotel. Solidifies the setting as more than just pastiche. Even depicts pre-cartridge revolvers accurately. They actually swap out cylinders to reload mid fight. Thought the gunfighting was great as well. There's a heft and power to how the revolvers sound.

 No.36086

>>35176
For a Few Dollars More is arguably the best of the "Dollars" series, which often is associated with Once Upon a Time in the West and Duck You Sucker / Fistful of Dynamite.

Fievel Goes West is like a fever dream, especially with the context of the original American Tail movie clearly taking place in the 20th century and having a much more serious tone. That kind of heightens it to feeling mythic. It's also notable for having Jimmy Stewart's last role.

>>35371
The Coen version of True Grit is great. One of the few times Matt Damon is used well in a more recent movie, where he feels like an actual character in the world and not milking star power. The whole cast is perfect and it nails the nihilistic tone it's going for.

High Plains Drifter is a classic and one of Eastwood's first films as director. It really leans into the surrealism and mystery without going full gonzo like El Topo or something. Dead Man is kind of similar to that but more restrained, it feels like it works on an almost "fairy tale" logic but also has the nihilist/absurdist tone perfect.

Shanghai Noon gets points for Chinese representation in the West (surprisingly not a lot of examples despite the rich story potential as well as the large Chinese movie market today). Only other example that springs to mind if Blazing Saddles which I'm kind of surprised nobody mentioned yet but maybe it's just too low-hanging fruit. It's also more of a Hollywood-meta parody film than a western anyway, so maybe it doesn't count.


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