No.20297
>>20295when you say not that heavy how heavy are we talking? In kilograms if possible
No.20298
>>20295 After you guys are done mods should merge this into the HEMA thread on
>>>/hobby/3859 No.20299
>>20297It varies wildly.
English armors were different from German armors were different from Czech armor, etc.
What I can say, is the "heaviest" part of the armor is actually the chainmail by far.
>A complete suit of plate armour made from well-tempered steel would weigh around 15–25 kg. The wearer remained highly agile and could jump, run and otherwise move freely as the weight of the armour was spread evenly throughout the body. The armour was articulated and covered a man's entire body completely from neck to toe.>A short-sleeved shirt of chainmail typically weighs around 7 kg. A long-sleeved shirt reaching to the mid-tights or further is called a hauberk. Hauberks like that can weigh 10 kg. A hauberk with coif attached weighs 1.5 kg more whereas a separate coif brings about 2.5 kg to scale. An additional pair of mail mittens or gloves weighs 1 kg. The legs can be protected by a pair of chausses which adds another 4 kg. To cover the whole body this adds up to about 18 kg.If the plate is fitted properly, the weight will distributed evenly across below the waist, and mostly on the hips for above the waist.
There are many different configurations and layering that different European nations used throughout a span of over 1000 years, so it's kind of hard to generalize.
>>20298I cant believe I missed the hema thread wtf
No.20300
>>20299>I missed the hema thread wtfthe board is slow, it's not a common topic
No.20316
>>20295Another important part that is hardly ever covered in Hollywood is the grappling. If you get their ass on the ground, now they're a sitting duck, and the fight is pretty much over.
The only problem with the video is that they didn't mentioning
ending the enemy rightly with the pommel. No.20333
>>20296I used to want to be a choreographer
But then I had a motorbike smash my knee :(
No.20341
>>20333Kek, nice reference
>>20296Reminds me a bit of Predator Dark Ages
No.20451
>>20448Kek literally an ancient Touch Grass meme
No.20452
>>20333checked
>>20321This sounds exactly like the kind of pun a Jester'd use before killing someone.
No.20964
>>20962Maybe I'm stupid but wouldn't the shields from Dune just result in people using more blunt force? At least in the movie version the shield might stop the attack from connecting to your body, but we see the force still transfers with kicks and so on, so if you bop someone around with a maul or trip them with a staff it should still work, right? Maybe the dominant strat would be to wield a spear so you get reach and leverage to knock or trip someone to the ground and then maneuver the spearhead under the shield once they're off their feet. Shad thinks they'd use shorter blades for up close, but you can still keep someone at a distance with a spear. Maybe there would be some tension between the two methods, IDK.
He also makes the point at the beginning that if you just stop the blade at the barrier, then the speed is 0 and it doesn't take a lot of effort to move the blade slowly through the shield. It makes the shields seem kind of self-defeating if they don't at least make the blades bounce off, since the shield blocking the blade does the work for you of decelerating the swing, so you could just swing normally for the most part. I think it's just one of those things that has more of a thematic purpose and is difficult to really explain or portray in a way that makes sense.
No.21339
>>3859Goblin Slayer is pretty interesting in its discussion of armor and arms in (essentially) spelunking of deep tight caverns.
No.21355
>>20962>>20964>>21008I think the Dune shields have a fatal vulnerability.
If you put an explosive on a stick with a trigger in the tip, the shield would let the explosive pass through (if the stick is gingerly wielded) and then contain the fast moving blastwave within the shield, turning the shield wearer into instant mush.
POP stickThere are variations of this method: A blowtorch/flamethrower on a stick( heat is fast moving particles and therefore the shield should also be a near perfect insulator, which should make for some crispy results). A compressed air hose on a stick or overpowered tazer on a stick would work as well. A spray of supercooled ethanol-dry-ice slurry would freeze the guy in the shield.
To make this into a ranged weapon you mount the stick on some kind of remote controlled vehicle or flying thing.
The dune universe also has artificial gravity generators, and like in any other scifi series this gets overlooked. If you switch it on and off with alternating polarity a few times per second, nobody will be able to fight because they are to busy smacking against the floor and sealing.
No.23038
Complex hilted weapons, like basket hilts, are superior to beta no-hilt weapons.
No.23043
>>23038>hilts virgin v chad mentality Reassess your priorities and understandings
No.23496
>>23494Yes I have, but I am skeptical of dual wielding weapons. Sounds like a great way to cut your own arm off
No.25845
>>25836It's pretty cool ngl
You have real cool stuff from german-ish sources which are double ended, italians and french just turned it into a big sword, then the whole ingerlan tradition.
Would recommend if peeps already tried japanese stuff.
No.25846
>>25836also That's the Danish manual for you image source right?
No.30260
>>30257interdasting
thanks
No.35771
>>35770Keep in mind morningstars come in various designs and lengths. Technically, the demi human club and spiked spear are also morningstars.
The spiked spear was a pleasant surprise for me. They're clearly based on the various peasant-made examples from the 17-18th century. I quite like the rustic look of them. Great choice for a peasant roleplay.
No.35797
>>12498Shad makes his living off big tits and fetishists…
>reads the first post Oh… lmao, not shadman, nevermind
keeping this as is for the sheer laughs No.35983
http://willscommonplacebook.blogspot.com/2010/01/archers-mauls.html?m=1Something I found. So another sidearm archers would use besides swords were "mauls".
I'm no workman so I'm not really sure what they refer to in ye olde tymes or the present day. Seems to just be the everyday large working hammer repurposed/used for war. I read some threads asking if such things were used as weapons with replies amounting to "not really". I mean, if the artwork and records ain't lying, then I guess it's another case of overcorrection (the other end of the "not knowing wtf you're talking about" spectrum).
Curiously, Tod's selling a number of "archer's mauls" but they're simple one handed studded clubs weighted with lead. Not sure what they're based on or if they're an "educated guess" of something peasants could make. In any case, I do like the look of them.
No.36345
how dangerous/effective are brass knuckles against an unarmed person? a lot of people on reddit seem to underestimate them, and idk if that's true or it's just typical reddit brainworm.
No.38036
I really should just double post here as well anytime I post in /leftytrash/. I could make it longer and last as well.
>>36043Really late thanks.
>>37529I don't know if they realised what they were getting into. It's cute seeing everyone getting so excited add their input, Rawlings especially. He's just so giddy.
https://youtu.be/_0x5ur8znjIhttps://youtu.be/G04mX6HLX5ghttps://youtu.be/V3P_6wrmzpE No.38066
Lovely sparring with the rugger, bauernwehr, hauswehr or whatever kind of shorter messer everyday folk could carry. I guess they put in perspective what
langes messer are. Some thoughts from my amateur eyes:
>long enough that cutting plays are +/- the same and maintaining the bind is still feasible>possibly too short that your point can't reach opponent's body (go for arms?) if their arm is not in a shortened postion while in a bind (unless you have the strength/structure to collapse their extended arm?)>which means more cutting or thrusting away from the bind and less point work with opposition?>either way, offhand defense + grappling even more applicable simply from shorter distanceBeen thinking of how much knife fighting can be derived from the sword so this is fascinating. Die Freifechter has more stuff with them:
https://youtu.be/MyjyWnpZWsE (same fight, different pov)
https://youtu.be/ve_MBYkXNbs (another sparring)
https://youtu.be/-ND1SpgJdL0 (glasgow messer plays with bauernwehr)
Love watching Oskar at play. His form and flow are just *chef's kiss*. Fencers like him are so enjoyable to watch.
Virtual Fechtschule (Oskar), Die Freifechter and Messering Around are good channels if you are interested in messer.
No.41620
>>38066>>38036v nice
I also got two new 2nd-hand copies of McBane today. Feeling pretty good rn
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