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Why the fuck did you spoiler your OP image, it's not NSFW at all?
Anyway no, it's not unless they specify or use more specific Israel analogies later. Besides, going by Magneto's idea of mutant superiority, that would be rather anti-Zionist, considering that he both considers non-mutants as inferior and unworthy, and later forms an island mutant nation hostile to non-mutants and perceived mutant traitors.

Frankly this whole analogies shit is rubbish and has always been people projecting their politics onto the X-Men story. It's the same shit as people claiming it was meant to represent the gays.
>Stan Lee literally created the idea of Mutants because he was tired of creating hundreds of backstories for the superpowers his characters had, so it was just "the X-Gene" and it let him create characters more freely… that's it, that was the entire motivation behind the X-Men. And the idea of alienation and wanting to be accepted by society is a universal concept among all people. The flamboyant designs are also just because it was cool, and literally applies to most superheroes in DC and Marvel that have no relation to the X-Men. If gay people identified with it, then good for them, but it wasn't intended to be specific to any one person or group, and people trying to say that are projecting their own political views onto illustrated power-fantasies for children and teens.

>>41210
>The flamboyant designs are also just because it was cool
Don't forget that all these characters are competing with each other for attention and having a distinctive and eye-catching design is important for that.

mutant separatism is historically progressive

Menachem Begin was the leader of the Zionist military group Irgun, which revolted against the British government in charge of what was then Palestine in 1944. While the Irgun were classified by the British as a terrorist group at the time, Begin was later elected Israeli Prime Minister in 1977, and brokered a peace treaty between Israel and Egypt, for which he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.

As Chris Claremont explained to Empire:

"There’s a lot of talk online now that Magneto stands in for Malcolm X and Xavier stands in for Martin Luther King…but for me, being an immigrant white ( Claremont was born in England ), to make that analogy felt incredibly presumptuous" Claremont states. "An equivalent analogy could be made to Menachem Begin as Magneto, evolving through his life from a terrorist in 1947 to a winner of the Nobel Peace Prize 30 years later."

>>41213
"That evolution was something I wanted to apply to the relationship between Xavier and Magneto," he said. "It’s an evolving 150-issue arc." According to Claremont, his goal for Magneto was always to eventually become Xavier's successor as leader of the X-Men and headmaster of Xavier's School for the Gifted, mirroring Begin's own trajectory over his lifetime.

Mutants as allegory for real-world oppression falls completely the fuck apart as soon as you run into the fact that they have actual superpowers, which is not true of anybody IRL. Both perspectives in-universe make vastly more logical sense than their equivalent does IRL.
<Yes, mutants are "superior" to everyone else, because by definition they have what you could call the opposite of a disability, making "normal" people effectively disabled in comparison.
<Yes, mutants are actually dangerous to everyone else because so many of them have what are effectively weapons of mass destruction built into their biology which a very large percentage of them consistently use to hurt innocent people and do crimes against humanity.
No, allegory doesn't have to be 1:1 for it to work, but if you take the allegorical value of a story seriously when the power dynamics involved are this divorced from reality, you are a clown.

I don't know if this new series is but the original 90s cartoon was a bunch of Chris Claremont stuff so maybe ask him.

Also I hate the change to Magneto's costume and voice.

>>41215
Most mutants are just weirdos. One guy in the comics looked like a plucked chicken. I think his name was beak.

>>41210
Idk, just didn't want to spoil the new episode for anyone watching so I thought marking it as spoiler would help.
I know that, in the comics, Magneto has been portrayed as being anti-Israel in some issues. And even through I agree that people project too much of their own struggle / politics in X-men, it's was kind of a predictable outcome, and I don't see it as negative (even if some people are a bit insufferable about it), it makes the series unique or at least a vanguard of this kind of story telling.

>>4121
I disagree. The "mutant struggle" works in universe because, like anon said it above, not all mutants are x-men. And even for those that are, a lot of mutations are more maleficial to their "hosts" and others around them than beneficial. In the real world, we have people with autism that are geniuses and others that are non-verbal.
Also, most mutants doing "crimes against humanity" a lot of times are products of people's hate on them and their kind. Even fucking Apocalypse has been given some kind of tragic backstory related to his powers (not that it entirely justifies what he does, but eh)

>>41222
>just didn't want to spoil the new episode for anyone watching so I thought marking it as spoiler would help.
Fair enough

>>>4121
I assume you mean to reply to >>41215