No.7011
I fell for this shit for way too long just because I was a brainlet when in came to psychology in general.
Look into Jung's biography and how spooked he was. Jungian "psychology" is quite literally astrology (I thought it was a hyperbolic joke for the longest time):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_astrology>[b]Origins[/b]>In the twentieth century, the western esoteric tradition inspired the Swiss psychiatrist and founder of analytical psychology, Carl Jung to formulate his archetypal hypothesis, influenced by Plato's theory of ideas or forms.[2] In his research into the symbolic meaning of his patient's dreams, conversations and paintings, Jung observed recurring mythical themes or archetypes. He proposed that these universal and timeless archetypes channel experiences and emotions, resulting in recognizable and typical patterns of behavior with certain probable outcomes.[3] Jung claimed to observe a correlation between these archetypal images and the astrological themes or traditional 'gods' associated with the planets and signs of the zodiac. He concluded that the symbolic heavenly figures described by the constellations were originally inspired by projections of images created by the collective unconscious.[4][5] Jung wrote "Astrology represents the sum of all the psychological knowledge of antiquity".[6]It primarily functions as a typological tool for use and exploit by employers in the service sector.
No.7015
INTP chad reporting in
No.7019
>>7015You sure? You barely seem literate.
No.7020
Alfred Adler > Carl Jung
No.7025
>>7009>hobby engaging in pseudo-psychologyWhen did /dead/ come here?
No.7026
I am an Animawlkin®™ Penguin, MBTI®™ INFP, Enneagram®™ UwU, star-sign Pope Paul V, anal-sign Prolapse
Take the Animawlkin™ test at Animawlkin Society of Totally Legit Psychologists®™, I saw all my favorite influencers take it on Facebook®™ and they told me to share, comment and hit that bell button (of course I was already subscribed to BuzzFeed®™ haha) and so I shared it, branded it, never stopped talking about it and my psychological issues to my Friends™, my colleagues, my managers, my boss, cashiers, police when they wake me up hung over in a ditch, my psychic, my (((therapist))) :DDDDDDDDD
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VERY MATERIALIST OBFUSCATION
No.7028
>>7027No
obnoxious [b]stupidity[/b] allowed.
What's that gif, are you pretending to be a nihilist spooked by feudal star signs?
>The revolutionary is a doomed man. He has no private interests, no affairs, sentiments, ties, property nor even a name of his own. His entire being is devoured by one purpose, one thought, one passion - the revolution. Heart and soul, not merely by word but by deed, he has severed every link with the social order and with the entire civilized world; with the laws, good manners, conventions, and morality of that world. He is its merciless enemy and continues to inhabit it with only one purpose - to destroy it. –— Catechism of a Revolutionary, Sergey Nechayev
Both Bakunin and Nechayev would slap the shit out of you for your pretentiousness.
No.7058
>>7031NOOOO THANOS GOT MAE
No.7070
>>7032This
At least horoscopes have cool symbols and goofy magic shit associated with them. MBTI is just lame.
No.7080
>>7073At least horoscopes
are fun. There's a bunch of wacky nonsene associated with them like dating compatibility. At least "which Hogwarts house are you" is about wizards and shit. MBTI is totally dry corporate phrenology.
No.7084
im a gemini sun + moon and enfp
i think mbti is a dumb gimmick that only works somewhat well when paired with enneagram and if one uses the functions + its stacks but at that point it is no longer within the normie realm
(hate using the word normie just dont know how else to word it)
No.7104
>>7080whatever you say faggot
No.7105
>>7009I don't care about Jung or his convoluted crap. Astrology is not a science but one can say that it can be disturbingly accurate for what is essentially mysticism. (I.e. zodiac traits). It's also useful for navigation because you learn the constellations.
No.7107
>>7105>disturbingly accurate for what is essentially mysticism?
No.7112
>>7105It's 'disturbingly accurate' because everything related to astrology is a Barnum statement
>"your sign gains energy from being around friends, but you also often need time to recharge alone">OMG that's literally me!!! No.7113
>>7112>A barnum statementStop reading the shitty stuff and do research m8. It gets more specific than that with real astrologers and not online scammers.
No.7114
>>7113If astrology is real then why couldn't any of them win the 'million dollar prize'?
No.7115
ENTP GANG
No.7116
>>7114the James Randi one?
No.7122
The 16personalities test is not MBTI/Jungian at all, it's just OCEAN/Big Five that uses Jungian terminology and MBTI categories. They explicitly state this in describing their personality model ("NERIS Type Explorer"). Actual MBTI is pure pseudoscience.
That being said, INTP gang represent.
No.7124
>>7105>It's also useful for navigation because you learn the constellations.Astrology is not astronomy, retard.
No.7541
>>7011And now you fell for the pop culture skepticism. Nice.
No.7542
>>7541No argument? Nice.
Advocate for Jungianism from a materialist perspective.
No.7544
>>7124I know idiot, I studied astronomy. What the fuck do you think the zodiacs are based on, idiot.
No.7606
>>7544Then you should know they are just planets and stars like our Sun, there's nothing mystic with them, dumbfuck.
No.7610
>>7606Nobody said there was something necessarily mystic about the planets retard. Did you even read what I said or are you just bringing about your knee-jerk reaction about "muh astrology" Just shut up, moron.
No.7615
>>7610>Nobody said there was something necessarily mystic about the planets retard>>one can say that it can be disturbingly accurate for what is essentially mysticism. (I.e. zodiac traits)That's your words, you senile.
No.7616
>>7615Learn the difference between accuracy and precision you imbecile. TO call it accurate is not wrong. For example Gemini zodiac traits tend to be fairly accurate, as do others. is there some scientific evidence proving causation? No, I never claimed this. There IS however strange correlation, which was my entire point, you fucking assmad contrarian.
No.7617
>>7112now explain why my irl personality overlaps perfectly with my Sims zodiac, which applies numbers to explicit traits rather than relying on barnum statements.
(i played the sims before i knew what zodiac signs were, so it's not the case of making the evidence fit the hypothesis.
although i may be being facetious when i act like the sims traits are a serious attempt at quantitative astrology)
No.7640
>>7616If there's no scientific evidence then it's bullshit, Bunkerchan is a materialist chan so get your crystal shitball out of here.
No.7650
>>7640Suck a dick pretentious moron.
No.7652
Are you an obsessive, a hysteric, a pervert or psychotic?
No.7660
>>7650No, they're based while you're high on esotericism.
It's clear to me that this leaves you the 'pretentious' one.
No.7770
>>7080Horoscopes are more fun for sure- plus more astrologists? astrology writers? Idk what they call themselves - that leverage aspects of astrology and horoscopes to give legitimately useful advice and methods for self-reflection and growth. MBTI can function the same way as a medium for self-reflection but more proponents of it are corporate clowns who write productivity blogs about how the productively write productivity blogs.
No.7771
>>7660It's clear to me you're butthurt.
No.10192
>>7024Would you say you often get disorganized? Or are you usually on top of the ball?
I'm trying to figure out if I'm INFP or INFJ. I figure I'm definitely intuition dominant and I use Tx almost as much as Fx
No.10197
>>7115What is it like being the best person?
No.10216
>>7115GANG
>>10197I'm far too humble to see myself that way but thanks for the compliment.
No.10571
>>10216your welcome, thank you for the sincere answer
I love that a lot of entps are like a bubbling geyser of crazy and preposterous ideas and will talk for hours about them if you get the chance to do a back and forth
No.10574
>>16907
yes mbti is pseudoscience but can you not with the fucking Christchurch footage, I don't need this negative shit right now
No.10575
>>10574It's a spambot. The exact smae video with a different filename is in cyberpunk and on threads in /anime/ and /tech/
No.10689
>>7009I have no idea, every time I do the test I get something different, but the only trait I always get is Introverted. No matter the result, I never take it seriously because I also identify with the other types I tend to get.
No.10747
>>7011>It primarily functions as a typological tool for use and exploit by employers in the service sector.that implies it has truth value tho
No.10748
>>10574>yes mbti is pseudosciencewhy?
No.10751
>>10747More like a lot of decisions are arbitrary and sorting people by type makes it easier to get away with doing that.
No.11040
>>11039*note
plato's the TiFe and Aristotle's the TeFi
No.11059
Pseudoscience is unironically cool. Go back to /r/heckyeahscience.
No.11066
>>10192different intj here. I was dumb enough to pay for a certified exam and lean pretty heavily towards one side in all four metrics. I'm pretty disorganized physically, in the sense that I don't bother to make sure my room, office, etc. are prim and proper. my note taking and general organizational ability is pretty sloppy as well. however, I place more emphasis on my mind being organized and having things I immediately need at hand. probably why I hate mundane work where there's a lot of chances to make small mistakes.
No.11156
>>11039>>11040So ENFP Plato vs INTJ Aristotle then?
Also ngl 'becoming one with the universe' sounds more rad to me than 'achieving excellence and becoming a master'
The self is limiting, no man is an island yadda yadda
No.11538
>>7610I think there's more to said about a seasonal typology than actually astrology. It would make sense that infants who spend the first few months indoors vs outdoors would have lasting effects.
No.11576
>>7009Whenever I take this stupid test I end up being on a different quadrant.
I can legit claim that I was on every personality at least twice.
No.11580
>>7129James randi was a scum artists
Google about that german bretherian
also proving the paranormal exist will lead to you getting epsteined
No.15611
Bump
No.15615
>>11576I've always gotten the same result. Don't reply based on your mood of the last 5 minutes.
No.15617
>>11580This ,why whould any paranormal being agree to publially out himself
Not only that but randi literally clamed that mediums and shit should win at odds 1000000 to 1
Like sorry but if someone can guess what i am holding behind my back 9/10 times i whould tottally be spooked even if its in theory possible statistically based on luck
No.15633
can someone (preferably critical of jung) explain to me how the fuck jungian cognitive fucnctions are supposed to work? specifically with Ni
No.15637
>>7028>that quotethis is unironically me. how do I stop thinking about revolution and get other hobbies
No.15638
>>15637Fuck, that's >literally me! as well.
Maybe that's why I feel so much more alienated than usual.
No.15642
I'm a leo.
No.15848
INFP
Genocide all **TJ
No.15890
>>15642Based and Lion-pilled
But what's your Chinese Zodiac sign?
Pro-Tip: Tiger and Dragon are the only cool answers
No.15936
>>15937INTJs bottle it up until they go on a shooting spree.
No.15941
>>15940*teleports behind you*
Nothing personnel, kid.
I deleted and reposted 15934 as 15937 just as they were replying, so I reported it to a mod to fix the broken link. No.15942
>>15941I didn't know you could do that. After years of not visiting 4chan I still haven't fully understood the potential of the report button on a small imageboard.
No.15957
>>15942Yep. Works about half the time, more often on slower imageboards where the report queue is empty and mods aren't too busy hammering raiders.
I've seen a couple of people do it in old generals to ask them to add useful links to the OP or fix broken links.
No.15973
>>7009All ESTJ are psychopaths
anarcho-communismAnarcho-Communism No.16430
>>15973going off of big five data we have for psychopaths it's probably more like ESTP because of the association with lower conscientousness that the condition carries
No.16432
>>15978intuitive perceiver+sensor judger
nah lol. Maybe INTP plus INTJ tho
No.18514
>>15978INFPxINFP
>INTPAka the the peak midwitt reddit guy "I could be an epic genius like Haisenberg if I tried but I don't want to" personality.
>ISTJSounds like autism tbh
No.18521
>>18514That's why it's a good pairing.
No.18522
INFP, here.
No.18525
>tfw ESFPs and ESTPs are Gods gift to INTJs
I love you bastards
No.18526
>>18525oh hey it's socionics time.
No.18533
>>18514>MBTI is when stereotypesCope
No.18535
>>18534Has any thread on /hobby/ actually died since bunkerchan? Outside of the old /fit/ thread hitting bump limit. It barely counts as 'necrobumping'.
Also you are probably a low-functioning INTJ.
No.18536
This is now a Big Five thread. Post your results and discuss psychometrics.
https://openpsychometrics.org/tests/IPIP-BFFM/16personalities.com is fine too, just convert your results to Big Five/OCEAN and be skeptical about their personality profiles.
Keep in mind that even the best peer-reviewed psychometric models have been criticised by scientists, and always be careful to avoid pseudoscience like MBTI and astrology!
No.18543
The only personalities are Gamer and Non-Gamer
No.18548
Mine. No surprise, I'm a fucking emotional wreck.
>>18546Based transcendant neet monk stats
>>18539>>18537>>18536Pure reddit Muskbro logic guy stats. Looks like we have a midwitt infestation.
No.18551
>>18550Mentality is what counts
No.18552
>>18548You have nearly the same stats as we do faglord.
No.18555
>>18554oh hey your average /tttt/ user
No.18595
>>18536Based. Here's mine although personally I prefer the hexaco (6 factor) model because of the distinction between agreeableness and honesty/humility
https://hexaco.org/questionnaire_choose_versionkeep in mind this one is 100 questions long so twice as long, however it didn't take me too long to complete after doing the big five first
No.18597
>>18596Since I already posted mine:
>>18554 (me)
I just love him. He is hysterically funny to me. I love how he speaks. I love his "asexual sassy theater manager" menrisms. I can't get him out of my head. I let hin live there at his expense as big clown. We love it, don't we folks?
No.18599
>>18596Since I already posted mine:
>>18537 (me)
I just love her. She is hysterically erotic for me. I love her "robotic opportunist war criminal" mannerisms. I can't get her out of my head. I let her live there at her expense as big bitch. We love it, don't we coomers?
No.18605
>>18597Lmao, I never considered mr Trump as an asexual icon before. We love him yes we do.
I noticed you had a somewhat above average extroversion compared to most here, and it's interesting that Trump is very bombastic and energetic
>>18599Kek have you ever busted a nut to her? You have a pretty high emotional stability compared to most coomers I know but I guess "the least ugly american war criminal" is a refined taste
>>18600Interesting, what the hell is the background behind this photo?
No.18607
>>18595 (You)
>>18596 (You)
(me)
I just love him. He is hysterically endearing for me. I love his "Patient yet incredibly enthused housecat" mannerisms. I can't get him out of my head. I let him live there at his expense as big blin. We love it, don't we cooters?
No.18608
>>18597>He is hysterically funny to me. I love how he speaksKek, this but unironically
No.18829
Which are the most dogshit MBTI yt channels? For me it's CS Joseph and Love Who.
No.18836
>>18829not so much shit but I really enjoy frank james, especially his older stuff
No.19116
INTP (male) + INFP (female) in a romantic relationship
Thoughts?
No.19118
>>19116IDK what any of those personalities are
No.19123
>>19116Both of you are probably fairly reclusive and prone to fantasy/deep thinking. More menial task and organisation might be a challenge for both of you. Both types are similar with some differences, INTP being more analytical and emotionally detached, INFP being more emotional and emotionally sensitive. So you will likely face similar difficulties/aversions and strengths/preferences.
Anyways MBTI stuff is less important than how you actually get on with a person, it's just one way to think about your similarities and differences.
No.19141
>>19123Have you seen such a coupling IRL? If so how did it go?
No.19144
>>19141Sorry I haven't seen this specific pair IRL. I would suggest watching MBTI youtube channels if you want to hear someone's IRL experience. I'm assuming your interested in an INFP female you know? How do you guys normally go interacting with one another? How do you find your interactions with INFPs in general?
No.19145
>>7009>scientific astrology¬_¬
No.19146
>>18549>96 open-nessplease be my conversational partner
No.19147
Also lmao at 78 extroversion, 96 neuroticism and 2 agreeableness. What is you doin baby?
No.19149
>>19148you have a 3/10 personality for doing the 16 personalities one.Just kidding. It's just rebranded big 5 though, which means it's actually scientifically validated. INFP-T means high in introversion, openness to experience, agreeableness, low in conscientousness, and high in neuroticism, in that order.
Here try this one if you want your MBTI type
https://sakinorva.net/functions No.19150
>>19145It's not really astrology tho. Even if MBTI involves pseudoscience and false assumptions it is couched in personality differences between people. Perhaps you could say some people born at different times of the year would have some predictable differences in personality but I would consider MBTI to be on the contrary an actually useful if scientifically invalidated way of thinking about the differences between people's personalities. We also have Big 5/Hexaco chads in the thread if you wish to post your own evidence based personality test.
No.19151
>>19147What about this one?
>>18537 No.19152
>>19149Hey it's the one my boss made us do at work.
>>19150I would say that while MBTI is not /complete/ psuedoscience, it definitely falls into the trap of Barnum statements and so on.
No.19153
>>19151Nerdesque unsurprisingly, yet notably low neuroticism, congratulations Shinji
No.19154
>>19152>Hey it's the one my boss made us do at work.It's okay most people do that one and like I mentioned it's basically a mini big 5
>I would say that while MBTI is not /complete/ psuedoscience, it definitely falls into the trap of Barnum statements and so on.Yes that is fair to say
Not to be tooo weird but I think we may have just had a conversation about this judging by your result here and doing this for you work
No.19155
I should add, I meant over leftypol. That may sound kind of schizo and I pride myself in not sounding completely schizo all the time
No.19162
>>19123Oh I was asking mainly because I see people on youtube and personality related websites mention these two as 'The Golden Pair'.
No.19163
>>19158Very high Ti, would you consider yourself a nerd or scientifically minded? Do you spend a lot of time pondering? Looks very INTP to me. You are probably in good company around here
No.19164
>>19162Oh okay. Yes they are probably a pretty good pair, good mix of feeling/thinking and shared extroverted intuition, introverted nature. Lot's to relate on, similar energy/organisation requirements. But also that different preference for thinking/feeling so they can round each other out and keep things interesting
No.19165
>>19163>Very high Ti, would you consider yourself a nerd or scientifically minded? Well yeah I browse here of course I'm a nerd lol, although scientifically minded sounds too flattering for what I am.Do you spend a lot of time pondering? Yes, sometimes I lose sleep having conversations with other people I'll never meet inside of my head, or get lost in thought in the middle of performing a house chore and I'm very prone to daydreaming about how great my life would be if I became well adjusted again after so many years.
>You are probably in good company here.Well kinda, there is a fair bit of control freaks who make me uncomfortable but it's alright overall. What about you?
No.19170
>>19165I relate to what you said in the first paragraph a lot. Did you have a major interruption in life course?
No.19171
DATAMINE THREAD
No.19172
>>19171It's really not lol, nobodies even asking for identifiable info. Asking vague questions about people's personalities is a lot less useful than like aksing about people's locale and what praxis they do
No.19173
I for one am fascinated by other people, and their personalities, I can spend hours and days on end listening to people speak and trying to learn what makes them, them. I am interested about people and about humanity in general. I don't stalk or manipulate people and I am careful not to ask anything too personal or make people uncomfortable. I am also very introspective, so it's interesting to compare how my own personality and views diverge from other people's.
If I wanted to harvest users metadata I wouldn't ask them questions about their personality, I would tell and suggest to them "details about my own life" to see what they pick up on and return. A lot of people keep the inner workings of their minds a secret and that is OK and understandable. But still some people are happy to share
No.19176
ITT: tell us a bit about yourself and we try and guess your type
No.19178
>>19150the entire premise is backwards, its more of a test to see in what you are deficient and should work towards improving,
No.19179
Anyone who accepts these tests should be considered mentally ill. That is the true purpose of personality tests.
No.19180
Why did they decide that these specific traits are the pillars of our personalities? Why not take a hammer to someone's leg and see if they groan or scream, then try to find out how the groaners respond to certain things in contrast to the screamers and build a personality test around that. You could use all the same weasel shit to justify it that you see in this thread.
No.19182
>>19177what did you answer to get this? lmao
>>19180MBTI is a non scientifically validated system of categorizing cognitive functions that everyone uses and how people rely on and have developed these functions to different degrees. It is not a science, however myself and many other people find it is a helpful sort of (fuzzy logic) tool. It can help to think about the psychology and behavioral style of one's self and of other people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers%E2%80%93Briggs_Type_IndicatorIf this triggers you then note much of human knowledge is abstract and not grounded in real life. I have admitted MBTI is pseudo-scientific, not scientifically validated. My interest is not at all divorced from this realization so you can cope and seethe and read another thread if you still find what I am saying unreasonable.
On the other hand big 5 and Hexaco 6 factor are both scientifically validated and reliable measurements of objective qualities of human psychology e.g. introversion/extroversion, open-mindedness, conscientiousness etc…
No.19183
>>19182>Yeah I know astrology is bullshit but it helps me anywayYou cope and I will seethe.
No.19184
>19183
Is that what I said? In actuality or in intended message? Or are you being disingenuous on /hobby/ of all places because this is the internet and no one will be held to any sort of standards and code of conduct?
No.19185
>>19184What you said is nothing. Answer my question of why we aren't using groaning and screaming as the pillars of psychology. What you did was just exactly what I predicted you would, weasel yourself out of it by saying it gives you *something* even if you know it's bullshit, and then turn around and say these other horoscope tests are scientifically proven, without elaborating even a tiny bit.
I used to take these tests too when I was young and retarded, but they truly say nothing about who you are, all they do is say who you think you are.
No.19187
>>19185So since you are being rather rude you are incapable of nuance yes? You have fact brain? Do you have autism spectrum disorder? These are serious questions, if a little rude. I am not weaseling or making excuses out of anything because I am being entirely transparent with what I mean and have nothing to hide. Maybe if you were less autistic and chan brained you would take a moment to reconsider what you are replying to, as I just have re-reading your reply. I'm assuming you have taken note that I mentioned MBTI is objectively pseudo-scientific. Assuming we are on the same page, the other two personality measurements I mentioned the Big 5/Hexaco 5 factor are indeed scientifically validated measurements of a person's psychology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Five_personality_traits https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HEXACO_model_of_personality_structure These tests have replicable results near universally accepted by the scientific community, it's not a matter of contention on if these traits exist, only the finder intricacies of them, which you know nothing about. I seriously doubt you would be willing to deny the dichotomy for example between introversion/extroversion nor how it would relate to you yourself or people you know, unless you are being willfully pigheaded for the purpose of "winning" an argument. Here take this test and post your results, I already have an idea of what you will get and I am curious if I will turn out right:
https://openpsychometrics.org/tests/IPIP-BFFM/ No.19188
>>19187>I seriously doubt you would be willing to deny the dichotomy for example between introversion/extroversionI'm not denying a dichotomy, I'm denying that these are fundamental aspects of who we are. Whether you're an introvert or an extrovert may be dependent on whether you've had your breakfast.
Now, I'll ask again, please go and explain to me why I should give a fucking shit about this dichotomy.
>Here take this test and post your resultsI've taken these before, and I'll get some variation of INTP and ENFP.
No.19189
>>19188> I'm denying that these are fundamental aspects of who we areOkay but they are though, objectively speaking.
>Whether you're an introvert or an extrovert may be dependent on whether you've had your breakfast.Yes factors like this fluctuate over time and under different circumstances, however they remain stable over time as tendencies. Some people will always be more extroverted or introverted than others, etc. And this has a large and predictable impact on how people interact with one another. For example closeminded people tend to be more conservative/right wing, extroverted/introverted people are more common in certain occupations, and so on.
>I've taken these before, and I'll get some variation of INTP and ENFP.The test I linked you is for the big 5, i.e. an actually scientifically validated one.
No.19190
>>19170>Did you have a major interruption in life course?TL;DR: Everything spiraled out of control and don't know how to get back up.
Yes, when I was in my mid teens and was being pressured to 'pick a path in life' I came to realize, by observing the lives of people that at the time I looked up to and analyzing the overall trends of the economy, that this whole fairy tale about "following your dreams and finding your passion, realize your potential through meritocracy" was a load of bullshit. People were constantly complaining about suffering abuse in the workplace, feeling alienated and unfulfilled, and over all even if they made a respectable amount of money, by their admission, had been dealt a shitty hand and only used ad hoc justifications (eg. having children) for continuing a miserable existence no one wants. You would have to be braindead to want such a life for yourself, and heartless to want it for others. Thankfully I never went through with my rushed decision to go to law school out of depression.It hit me very hard because people around me molded my identity around performing well in this technocratic hellhole by attending a private school (thanks to a student grant given due to my grades) for the illusion of upwards class mobility into petite-bourgeois, so having everything I had known until then shattered left me confused, resentful, directionless and ashamed of not knowing what to do for the first time in my life. I couldn't tell anyone how everything felt out of fear of being ostracized by my peers and 'loved ones' who didn't love me but their image of themselves in me, so I just bottled it up and when passive-aggressively chastised about why I was starting to do worse socially and academically I just made shit up like falling in love with a girl I met through the internet but lived far away in Mallorca among other things to deflect.Eventually I further drifted away into isolation, losing friends little by little, missing opportunities for meaningful romantic relationships, getting out of shape, abandoning any notion of grooming and eventually dropping out of high-school in my last year, after which I basically just laid down to rot for two years.Eventually I would finish high-school through alternative means while jumping between unemployment, shitty dead end jobs with horrible wages and environments and working in the informal economy for little yield, all while not having friends since I left school and only having a few short lived flings in terms of intimacy. All while my 'loved ones' talked shit about me behind my back for being introverted and because I wasn't their vessel to vicariously live through and then wondering why I don't want to have much to do with them as they faint concern over my decay for the sake of their self righteousness rather than genuine care.Nowadays I'm doing a bit better as in more stable by feeling liberated out of meaninglessness, I've been accumulating literature on improving my social skills, how to become more goal oriented, looked into getting a career, have been working out hoping it would put me back on track but it just doesn't seem worth it given the direction of the world on top of me not deriving meaningful enjoyment out of basically anything for years now, at best I can muster feeling amused or distracted by doing something like browsing imageboards or watching videos. Even the drive of curiosity for new knowledge and it's interconnections that drove me to excel at school and wanting to socialize when I was more innocent is completely gone, I constantly space out when trying to read and simply don't feel like I want anything out of life just to disappear and be forgotten. I want to pursue my interest but I don't have any, and don't know how to resurrect that drive, how to live again after so many years wasted.Today the most I feel is a burning desire to tear all of these institutions down, but feel frustrated and embarrassed by not knowing how to do so without reproducing this hellscape under a different presentation by repeating the mistakes of past movements. No.19192
>>19189>objectively speaking, scientifically validated, trust me bro etc. etc.You're boring.
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>>19190I read everything you said.
I can relate a lot.
Do you have narcissistic parents as well?
Anyways this isn't the sort of world people are meant to be living in, it makes perfect sense that an out of the box thinker would grow up in dysfunction and existential dread.
>>19193very high openmindedness and introversion as well I see, low conscientousness. It makes sense that you are a nerd/deep thinker haha
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>19192
I am serious, post big five, contribute to this thread
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>>19196Is everyone on this website this damaged?
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>>19196Interesting results for honesty-humility, looks similar to mine for that factor:
>>18595 Well, I wouldn't say narcissistic they simply are completely different personality wise, but they definitely had a conception of parenting akin to playing with a Tamagochi as in throwing food and commodities and not even to a decent rate, and considered themselves good parents because they didn't put me through the same suffering their parents did (beatings, child labour) and for that I'm thankful for. they would make me feel defective for being introverted and/or not intuitively understanding a small fraction of social norms sometimes even mocking and insulting me, on top of emotionally manipulating me to attend social events full of adults that I didn't want to attend to 'straighten me up' and make me 'normal' I never felt like their loved child, just a trophy to be paraded around due to my grades Just from this little snapshot that sounds like emotional abuse and neglect dude. Not trying to shame your parents or anything or make you feel bad, or imply they were bad parents. But that must have been really hurtful growing up. No.19208
>>19198Yes, everyone here is mentally here, otherwise we wouldn't use imageboards.
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After reading this whole thread, when you think about it, it's pretty funny that Bee, an INFP by admission, started this thread and probably has already forgotten about it.
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>>18829>channelI really liked INFP & INTJ cafe, the INTJ girl was very cute.
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>>19295Oversensitive sperg.
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>>19295>dominant introverted intuitionHello there
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>>19315This INTJ are psychos meme is stupid imo. intuitives tend to be nerds/deep thinkers/little scientists/visionaries. That type of mindset isn't well suited to naked egoism. Probably most dark personalities are gonna be extroverted sensors. Even machievellians would be more like ISTJ/ISTP again imo, with the notable exception of ENTJ which is the most practical and material focused of intuitives.
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>>19325what is that all about?
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>>19399jungian psuedoscience
No.20679
Have you guys identified as different types throughout life?
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>>19399A somewhat pseudoscientific way of classifying varying personality traits according to types, with a focus around what cognitive functions a given person will use more or less, and how that effects a person's personality. It's not based in hard science like say the big five or hexaco models of personality traits, however personally I find it useful for getting a vague idea of what someone is like according to how they would classify themselves. Feel free to try the tests posted here and report back with your results if you are interested.
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>>20679I frequently type switched in a fbi.gov about the MBTI just to fuck with people.
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>>20731lol
>>20914wtf I hate mbti now?
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Anyone else feel slightly embarrassed over taking MBTI too seriously in the past?
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>>22596not at all
I have none of the shame I should be having
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>>22596What about you? Also what type are you?
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>>20948good point
it is kind of just a weird self inflicted caste system in a way or like some mental illness identity but whatever I get the sense anyways that it is helpful for thinking about the similarities and differences of people, in a package stimulating and memeish enough to not roll right off my polished smooth and ADD addled internet receptacle organ
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