No.530380
ITS HAPPENING
No.530381
4nd
No.530383
Ogre
No.530384
1rd
No.530386
In before vlasovite renegades and NATO banderistes
No.530387
So where are we now? Have the Ruskies reached Kiev yet?
No.530389
I blame NATO for shelling Ukrainians
No.530391
>>530387they are circling it. UK intelligence said 30 kms distance from Kiev center, but that was hours ago.
No.530392
i don't even know what to hope for in this situation anymore
i got nothing, i'm numb to this now
No.530395
nothing burger
No.530397
>>530389>I blame NATO for shelling Ukrainiansdid they? how
No.530398
Reminder that if Lithuania closes airspace to Russian airlines Kaliningrad enclave would be partially isolated from the mainland
<Estonia and Lativa already did
Escalating bit by bit
No.530400
>>530387They have almost encircled it already
No.530405
>>788629
>Cuba siding with chauvinists
No.530409
>>530401Lithuania is the real deal, read
>>530398 No.530410
What was the logic behind "deny all Russians entry" statements by some burger officials? Stupidity?
No.530412
>>530400I feel like the liberals before all this happened. Instead of waiting for an invasion to happen, we're now just waiting Russia to take Kiev. Could be today, tomorrow, weeks. Annyy moment now.
No.530414
>>530405what is cuba saying
i don't speak cubanese
No.530416
>>530409itd be inconvenient but you still can fly over the baltic sea
No.530418
>>530392For Ukraine to lay down arms, the US to stop fucking around in Ukraine politics immediately.
After being completely left to their own devices, they are still following America's agenda. The Ukrainian government needs to be skinned alive. Right along all the NATO bureaucrats and every single US politician. Their crimes against humanity can never be payed back.
No.530421
>>530416Yeah just realized it
No.530423
>>530419Exaclty. These madmans are giving out weapon to the civiliabs freely.
No.530426
>>530405I'm pretty sure Cuba just proved that you are the chauvinist here, Western chauvinist, in specific.
No.530429
>>530421still bad which is a shame cause I rly like aeroflot. I mean - gimme hammer and sickle in a logo and id even like McDonalds I am a simple man
No.530431
>>530407Why did russia allow baltics to join nato?
No.530433
>>530410wartime xenophobia
No.530437
>>530405<Criticizing a small AF nation struggling for survival in a world of giantsDon't be arrogant, context matters.
No.530439
>>530429AFAIK they've started partially removing it from their branding
No.530442
>>530418I don't know what that achieves
>After being completely left to their own devices, they are still following America's agenda.This is curious tho, Why are they digging their heels in at this point
Arrogance? Ego? Is there some secret deal with NATO to cause as much tragedy porn possible?
I don't think the last on is possible, The Ukrainian ambassador gave an interview how not to trust the us anymore
I guess this is just a pride thing at this point, which is foolish
No.530447
>>788662
show us the posts simping
No.530449
>>788662
yeah were literally the last resort. I am still not shilling for Putin but I am shilling for Russia
No.530451
>>530431Lol. The russia at that moment was powerless and absolutely pro-western
No.530453
>>530442If they give up they'd be skinned by nazis and nazis would also take control
No.530457
>>530440Didn't they learn from trying to astral project and fight Allah?
No.530460
How hard has the Russian economy been hit so far? Is it enough to push through for the time being?
No.530463
>>530455Fucking hell. No one is saying that russia is good. The thing is that russia is bad, but ukraine is much worse. Ukranina nazis were actually genociding russians in the eastern ukraine and were actually killing communists in ukraine.
No.530465
>>788662
Cry about it liberal
No.530467
>>788668
But people were actually preparing flowers for their glorious liberators… I even have Russian reports about it
No.530469
>>530462Understandable tbh.
No.530470
>>788668
>>Why they not surrender to invaders? I don't get it!
Yes, that's a valid question
Answer it
No.530472
>>788668
>die, die for NATO!
No.530475
>>530442Or Ukraine would like getting gibs from the EU, and for that you have to be atlanticist.
No.530477
>>788668
They are not invaders, They are liberators. At least for the eastern ukraine.
No.530480
>>530473Damn, americans really are retarded.
No.530483
>>530453what? really?
are there nazis in russian army that hate ukranians and are ready to do war crimes regard less of they surrender or fight?
wtf
No.530486
>>530463>a 1000 man regiment justifies an invasion where tens of thousands innocents will die or be displacedputinoids are unhinged
No.530488
>>530477>They are not invaders, They are liberators. At least for the eastern ukraine.And what are they doing? Liberating Ukraine from Ukrainians?
No.530490
>>530453Stop spouting bullshit. They only ones who are getting skinned are fucking ukranian nazis who wree genociding russians in the eastern ukraine.
No.530492
>>788688
Are you not crying?
No.530493
Putinoids are bad but "leftist" NATO shills are much much much worse.
No.530495
>>530490>>530483Skinned by the nazi in their own goverment fools
No.530497
>>530455This guy comics make me want Russia to bomb Ukraine into oblivion.
Obnoxiously cringe and smug.
No.530500
>>530490> who wree genociding russians in the eastern ukraine.OH MY FUCKING GOD
WTF IS EASTERN EUROPE
EVERYBODY IS NAZIS AND EVERYBODY HATES EACH OTHER??
I WISH THE USSR NEVER COLLAPSED, I'M SO SICK OF ALL THIS
No.530504
>>530486Stop trolling. Ukranian nazi swines in the government had 8 fucking years to sort out this situation. But all they did was further nazification of the country. They killed thousands and displaced tens of thousands of people.
There was no other solution. Rabid dog should be put down.
No.530505
>>788706
why anybody would want that?
No.530507
>>530500>In Eastern-Europe everybody is Nazi and everybody hates each other.^ this, unironically said by an american.
No.530509
>>530505To prevent another Ukraine
No.530511
>>530499Did you guise hear that Somalia got attacked by the US or something yesterday
Also what's the main reason for all this attention
Is it NATO drumming it up or because of racism?
No.530515
>>530504lets hope these arguments hold then, comrade.
No.530517
TWITCH STOPS PAYMENTS TO RUSSIAN BANK ACCOUNTS
Hard-hitting sanctions guys
No.530519
>>530499Only white people get any real sympathy in the mainstream media, everything else is empty posturing.
No.530521
>>788688
>You don't need a reason to not want to surrender to invaders.
Now i understand why zelensky forbidden men to leave ukraine, he really wanted them to join the pleausre of dying for a pointless cause.
No.530526
>>530495Fail to see the problem, nazi on nazi violence
No.530528
>>530511>Is it NATO drumming it up or because of racism?Both.
No.530530
>>530519Ukranians aren't white. Only nations with a history of successful colonization are white.
No.530535
>>530500This is unironically true. Yugoslavia, Caucasus, Ukraine. Every conflict had a lot of nazis (or at least religious fundamentalists)
No.530537
>>530517Heh, will NFKRZ become pro-Putin now?
No.530541
>>530530>this much copecan't tell if ironic or not
No.530544
>>530532scary lol
but why should I care for one pack of nazis over the other
No.530548
>>530493>"leftist" NATO shillsThese exist in droves in state media like twitter, but on leftypol anybody who doesn't kowtow to Putin's anticommunist agenda is branded a NATO shill.
No.530554
>>530544You shouldn't just saying why the clown still insisting on fighting the russians instead of giving up and going to israel
No.530560
>>530550Ukrops are considered white in all other white majority countries. Cope.
No.530564
>>530558Oh fuck that's huge news
No.530566
>>530548Dude, fuck putin. But fuck zelensky with his faggotry thrice as much.
No.530568
>>530548Only libshit think that critical supporting russia against Nato is equal to supporting putin. The majority of /leftypol/ hated him while he was repressing kazak workers, while the totality of western media was cheering him for "restoring order".
No.530573
>>530558Why cucking themself like this?
No.530575
>>530560Ukranians living in the USA? Somewhat. Ukranians living in Ukraine? Nope.
No.530577
>>530558A jó édes kurva anyádat, te geci Orbán.
No.530579
>>530568Exactly. Liberals are braindead. Even talking to a rightist is not as pointless.
No.530584
>Today I spoke again with the Prime Minister of Hungary, V. Orbán. And he once again assured me of his support for far-reaching sanctions against Russia. Including about blocking the SWIFT system.Prime Minister Poland
https://twitter.com/MorawieckiM/status/1497533422146887684?s=20&t=PiF2FvazKSCMUs6YDiCENg No.530586
>>530582>>530558AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ITS GETTING 2MULTIPOLAR4ME
No.530587
Remember, Orban is still a rightist dictator
No.530589
>>530560What the fuck is a white? What is this retarded americanised nomenclature?
Ukranians are ukranians. That's it. Nothing more nothing less.
No.530591
>>530587If you think Orbán is a bigger (bourgeois) dictator then Merkel, you out yourself as a liberal.
No.530593
>>530584But whyyyyy he's cucking himself
No.530595
>>530589Yet they get all the attention from the media while brown people in the same situation don't. Curious.
No.530597
>>530519Stop making everything about race god
No.530599
>>530524<Azov>Size: Regiment<Aidar>Size: <300do putinoids really think these shitters warranted a 20000+ man invasion that will displace tens of thousands?
No.530602
Directly from hungary about swift
READ!
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=486387686287863&id=100047499063575Péter Szijjártó (Hungarian: [ˈpeːtɛr ˈsijjaːrtoː]; born 30 October 1978) is a Hungarian politician who has been Minister of Foreign Affairs and Trade since 2014
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A9ter_Szijj%C3%A1rt%C3%B3 No.530603
>>530599How about the whole Ukranian Nazi government armed to the teeth with American weapons?
No.530606
>>530599It's pointless talking to you. I already said that invasion was the only solution to the quagmire created by the ukranian nazi government that has ALREADY killed thousands and ALREADY displaced tens of thousands of ukranian people.
No.530610
>>530558How will this do anything other than just fucking destroy Russia? Do you brain-broken fucks think this will usher in multipolarity? This will reinforce unipolarity; Russia will be made an example of and no other nation will dare go against NATO. Only suffering of the Russian working class is to come.
No.530613
>>530602Orban is an asshole, but he sounds more resonable than the rest of yurup right now
No.530615
>>530593Orban had the cornellian dilemena of choosing between European gibs and Russian gas.
Turns out you cannot buy gas without money anyway…
No.530616
>>530602>wants peace but calling for more sanctionswhat a retard
No.530620
>>530595Ukraine is in the europe and with direct cahoots with nato. Nationality and race has nothing to do with it.
No.530622
>>530558why does this matter?
it's just one country right? what is swift? are there like only few members
No.530630
>>530610>Only suffering of the Russian working class is to come.Why did putin do this anyway? Did he not expect all this backlash
No.530632
Denazification of Poland when?
No.530634
>>788768why delete your shitty post?
>>530626 No.530641
Germany still hasn't openly committed to swift sanctions
Will the german do it?
No.530642
>>530599Kremlinbots don't care about multipolarity or NATO containment, they just like to say based Putin is fighting the Nazis baby eaters (source: RT)
No.530644
>>530632I wish China to denazify the U.S.
No.530646
>>530622swift is the system that automatize transactions between banks in differents countries.
No.530648
>>530630>Why did putin do this anyway? Did he not expect all this backlashNato is interfering with his empire
No.530651
>>530608>three arrowsBold. I wonder if he could place other famous antifascist symbol there without the threat of getting jailed by Ukraine for it :^)
No.530654
>>530488Literally yes. The Ukrainian government was killing them.
>>788668Dying a pointless death seems like the life mission of liberals. At least Nazis die for their corporate overlords knowingly. I hope you die according to your principles, meaning, I hope you die a pointless death for CNN reporters to use you as tragedy porn, showing your torn body for a salviating american to "stand with you".
No.530656
>>530453to save lives? imagine how many lives could have been saved if germany just capitulated to the soviets in 1944 once it was clear they couldn't possibly win.
The Ukraine ain't gonna win, the question is just how many innocent lives the government once to throw into the russian meatgrinder before it accepts its fate.
No.530658
>>530627I hope for a swift victory indeed
No.530661
>>530652Fucking hope it will shut up khokhols shitting on my cozy dvach thread. But also sad that ukrainians now will have even more brainwash aimed at them
No.530663
>>530656>>530656>to save lives? More to save their own lmao.
No.530666
>>530642Show us the posts.
No.530668
I know it's meemshit
But I genuinely am starting to believe in the we live in a simulation theory
I hate it but I feel it now
No.530672
>>530661Get back on dvach, bydlo.lol.
No.530674
>>530642Why did you reply to yourself, retard?
No.530676
>>788817
say that to the dead children of donbas
No.530680
>>530597kinda hard when the global hegemon bases their politics and spectacle around race
No.530682
>>530668That's because your main mean of getting informationd about what's going on in Russia is trough the lenses of classical and social media which are highly prone to manipulation
No.530684
>>530678What does this mean for USSR 2
No.530687
>>530678They are wrong. Germany hasn't committed to swift sanctions yet
No.530691
>>530648So will this or will this not bring about multi polarity??? Stop pussyfooting.
Reminder Europe depends on Russian gas.
No.530693
>>530678Oh no no /pol/ bros we got too cocky! I thought no more brother wars between based trad EU states?!?!
No.530695
>>530678do it! do it! Cut yourself more than you cut Russia. Stop paying for the gas and beg for Qatari oil for just 4x the price
No.530697
>>530690I was going to stop you there for a second, Sir, because I thought you forgot to type in the second y in Mr. Zelenskyy's name, but it seems you wrote it correctlyy so yyou are free to go.
No.530699
>>530455>having a nuanced opinion on the issue means you love putinthis feels like a seminal moment for the left, in many ways this mirrors 1914 or 2003 with the whole "you either 100% support Germany/the US/the Ukraine, or you are the enemy" mentality going around.
No.530701
>>530690>NATO will likely interveneIf that happens then it's pretty much WW3.
No.530707
>>530699Yeah, it is really a dividing point.
No.530709
>>530691The swift ban is on, means we will have another major international financial exchange system, means multipolarity is there
No.530711
>>530678Excellent news the burgers might be forced to support peace initiatives to avoid this which would mean an end to the war otherwise the dedollarisation of the world economy begins which is also good
No.530713
>Italy to support EU line on Russia sanctions, including on SWIFT -PM's officeREUTERS
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1497550848074919936?s=20&t=-hWRwqoDTL-r4RWY2L7Xyg No.530715
>>530670While I sincerely doubt Ukraine has any chance here, it would be beyond hilarious if they gave Putin a bloody nose and ended the war in a shitty no-side-happy ceacefire. Would probably make Russian state collapse or at least get 1905'ed.
No.530716
>>530691>So will this or will this not bring about multi polarity???Only a war with China will bring about multi polarity
No.530718
>>530709Wait did they actually do it ? Did they ban them from SWIFT ???
No.530721
>>530715You really are a schzio
No.530722
Putin did predict all these sanctions right?
No.530724
>>530718Hasn't happened yet
No
No.530725
>>530718They will soon. The nuclear option short of real nukes really.
No.530729
>>530670>we believeWhat a worthless statement, they would need to consider all statenents by the ukrainian MoD as pure fact to come to that conclusion.
No.530731
>>530722Of course. Most probably he made a deal with Biden beforehand actually.
No.530733
>>530715I think their strategy is just to make Russia hurt as much as possible
No.530735
>>530716The belt road initiative is probably the next NATO target conflict. If the BRI continues, China will overtake the US in the coming short decades.
No.530736
don't feed trolls…
No.530738
>>530690Typical nazi behaviour. Nationalists are the biggest enemies of their own nationalities.
No.530739
>>530722One would guess so. But then you remember how BASED LUKA shat the bed with his plane stunt and completely fucked Belarusian economy by basically making everyone outside CSTO think they are a rogue state.
No.530741
>>530727Is this true? Did Jon Stewart really retire?
No.530743
>>530739where is bealrusian economy now
No.530745
>Prime Minister Morawiecki in Berlin: I came to shake the conscience of Germany so that they would finally decide on genuinely crushing sanctions that will affect the Kremlin's decisions, on #Putin's decisions , to stop attacking Ukrainehttps://twitter.com/tvp_info/status/1497549062714896386?s=20&t=kMPwIGzyFjiMmlwOSmrwoQNothing official just they are pressuring germany. This was posted 20 mins ago by polish news
No.530747
>>530682Should I drop into Ukraine or just avoid getting the news
No.530750
>>530745EU committing suicide in real time. Love it.
No.530751
>>530727Wait for the apology video. Trevor Noah is not allowed to have opinions that Pelosi wouldn't approve.
No.530755
>>530722Actually yes they have an alternative to swift, their own chip fabs, they are food independent and they moved from visa/Mastercard to Mir since 2014 precisely to be the most immune possible to sanctions.
No.530758
>>530743Well, all I know is that they completely lost all their massive grey-market export pharmacy goods income they got in NATO countries. Also their fertilizer income. Also all the income from international flights.
No.530760
>>530748shut the fuck up mark
i am not a leftist and russia is not the soviet union anymore
i would simp hard for the ussr, not for russia
No.530762
>>530748>comparing a defensive military operation to an act of terrorism on civilian populationthis glows like the sun
No.530763
>>530750Indeed.
If this whole avanture with ukraine plays well, the nato and the eu will stop existing in their current form. The whole usa-centered world system may start crumbling.
No.530765
>>530718Not yet but in a couple of days
This has freaked the burgers out enough for them to suggest to the ukrainians making peace by declaring neutrality ie. no NATO ascension
Maybe Ukraine will just keep pushing for the swift lockout they seem to be feeling a bit betrayed by the USA as of now
https://eventsinukraine.substack.com/p/the-west-gave-us-weapons-becauseEither way something good comes of it, an end to the fighting or the US dollar losing its status as the global reserve currency
No.530767
>>530715IIt will be Iraq all over again, first the Ukrainian state get steamrolled after that armed groups wears off the occupying forces with constant guerilla.
No.530770
>>530739Why do you hate refugees?
No.530773
>>530748Standing with Russia is the incorrect take. We stand against NATO-backed imperialism. Russia AND the Ukrainian people are victims of it. The Ukrainian nazi puppet state must lay down arms and go.
Get your head out of your ass for fucks sake.
No.530775
>>530765>Maybe Ukraine will just keep pushing for the swift lockout they seem to be feeling a bit betrayed by the USA as of nowMan you are smart. Ukraine has no political leverage like that. If all these countries are agreeing in unison the USA wants these swift sanctions. Ukraine doesn't have much to offer these countries to convince them
No.530777
fighting NATO is a form of class war
No.530779
Huge propaganda victory for NATO and Russia is now isolated and its military humiliated.
No.530782
>>530767The guerilla may not happen. Russians are not as retarded as americans to bomb the fucking cities. So far no civilians were harmed directly by russians.
They even avoid the city fights for this reason. Not for this reason alone, though.
No.530784
>>530777Cursed numbers and Mussolinian take
No.530786
>>530767Also true. I think people are underestimating how bad partisan resistance would be if any part of Ukraine gets occupied properly.
No.530792
>>530779What the fuck are you talking about?
No.530794
>>530784you will remain silent, liberal
No.530796
>>530630Long-term they will be fine, they recovered from the previous set of sanctions after a couple of years, they effectively called natos bluff on ukraine and assuming that this doesn't drag on Putin will only be more popular.
No.530798
>>530782>So far no civilians were harmed directly by russians.What?
No.530802
>>530748Natural Gas doesn't melt Onlyfans Discounts
No.530804
>>530711FUCK NO DE DOLARIZATION NOW FUCK PEACE MAY THE DOLLAR DIE
No.530806
Just in: Peskov has said that "In light of failed negotiations, Special Operation resumes"
RUSSIA WAS PULLING PUNCHES TODAY. For fuck's sake.
No.530808
>>530748Was wirklich ist, das ist vernünftig
No.530809
>>530798200 civilian deaths confirmed.
No.530813
>>530770I'm talking about the time he stopped an international flight over Belarus because it had an Azov guy inside. No matter your opinions on the man, that is a really fucking retarded thing to do foreign policy wise, basically a mini-Soleimani killing, but done by a country that isn't an influential hagemon.
No.530815
>>530792He's saying that NATO and the West are Ah Q
No.530818
>>530777NATO is proletarian because they don't have oligarchs like russia does
No.530821
>>530798Russians were not shooting at cities. They were not bombing cities. The only ones doing this right now is the ukranian army of the deranged.
No.530823
>>530748innocent people didn't deserve to be killed or get mesothelioma
No.530828
>>530806Absolute state of russia. Ukraine doesnt even want to negotiate with them.
No.530830
>>530806Zelensky, meanwhile, was gloating that he was winning diplomatically, and that in negotiations with Russia he would annex Donbass
Is it delusion or what. What the fuck
No.530832
>>530690Breaking: Canadian truckers board ships to ukraine to oppose mandates
No.530834
>>530809Collateral damage
No.530836
>>530823>mutts>innocentlets not get carried away here
No.530837
Why has the thread been filled by glowfriends so suddely?
No.530839
>>530821Imagine how we would react to posts like this if it was 2004 and it was Burgersimp anons saying this about US missle strikes.
No.530841
>>530821what is the russian army doing exactly? just getting their shit in and standing around?
are they talking to Ukrainian officials
No.530844
http://solidnet.org/article/Urgent-Joint-Statement-of-Communist-and-Workers-Parties-No-to-the-imperialist-war-in-Ukraine/
> Urgent! Joint Statement of Communist and Workers’ Parties
< No to the imperialist war in Ukraine!
< An independent struggle is needed against monopolies and bourgeois classes, for the overthrow of capitalism, for the strengthening of the class struggle against imperialist war, for socialism!this fucking board is truly full of Putin-stanning reactionaries and r/GenZedong teens
No.530848
>>530837my bad, i invited my friends over
No.530850
>>530823I buy my coffee at Starbucks and 10% of the price goes to supporting buying shoes for African children, therefore I didn't deserve to die.
No.530857
>>530844is r/genzedong stanning putin?
can't believe i just typed this sentence, i want to vomit
No.530859
>>530830Western media has been calling Putin deranged for saying the Ukranian regime are drug addicts
Zelensky is an entertainment personality he's probably high on cocaine
No.530861
>>530844Shit take.
Check out the statements made by the UKRANIAN COMMUNISTS and the PSL instead.
No.530864
>>530857yeah but they flat out fall for the denazification meme instead of - seeing the bigger picture and at least critically support Putin.
No.530866
>>530839You see, you are factually wrong making this comparison.
I can assure you that if there was a single strike of a russian missile at the city the whole fucking tribe of western propaganda sources would be whining about.
No.530868
>>530857iive been to r genzedong most of the users there hate putin
No.530870
>>530854It was revealed to me in a dream.
No.530872
>>530857>>530868they don't like him but support the war at large
No.530877
>>530868People here (leftypol) were way more critical of Russia and Putin 2 months ago
Now it's far more sympathetic and supportive. I'd think tide there changed too
No.530879
>>530844You forgot the part in the statements where they blame NATO expansion for everything and the reactionary elements within the Ukraine government that allowed it. Putin's actions as despicable as they seem are still a product of NATO aggression. The party line agrees with me. To be anti-Putin and anti-war is to be anti-NATO.
No.530882
>>530839My dear grillpilled schizo. Since the second world war, if you assumed the US was on the wrong side of a conflict you'd be right in basically ALL the cases. I ask you, why is this time different?
Note:
Standing with Russia is the incorrect take. We stand against NATO-backed imperialism. Russia AND the Ukrainian people are victims of it. The Ukrainian nazi puppet state must lay down arms and go.
Get your head out of your ass for fucks sake!
No.530884
>>530775The Kiev regime has a a lot of blackmail material on the Washington regime
Burisma for example
No.530886
>>530599while I personally don't believe the Russian excuse for Invasion, claiming that Ukraine doesn't have a deepseated and critical problem with anti-semitism is delusional.
If you come with that fake-ass pew research study map I will disregard it No.530890
>>530879>to be anti-NATO is to support NATOwhat
No.530892
>>530875Yeah, i'm not clicking that, dude.
No.530894
>bbc news links
Can you not
No.530896
>>530879I blame NATO as much as Putin too, still doesn't justfy the war and Russia should gtfo
No.530899
>>530884Dumb. Ukraine has no power, they are a puppet
This is USA leading the way on sanctions
No.530901
>>530877I thought it was the opposite.
No.530903
>>530610anti imp retards have been arguing on here that the west will suffer and russia will win from getting cut from SWIFT, if it actually happens its the most devastating sanctions imposed in the modern era just shy of a total military blockade.
No.530905
how long will it take for sanctions to really bite
No.530906
>>530877Well, you know. Sometimes it just so happens that that the world around you changes and thus you have to change your view on the world.
I know, it may sound egregious but that's just how the cookie crumbles, pal.
No.530911
will ukraine or russia shut down the internet access soon in their country?
how do journalists post despite that?
networks being shutdown, not even mobile posting would be allowed no?
are there special satellites for that
No.530913
>>530911why would Russia shut down its own access?
No.530914
Ahem, hello this is me, POTUS Beau Biden from Bizzaroworld timeline. I am making this statement to the bloodthirsty Cuban dictator Castro and the Cuban army. If you want the violance to cese then please overtrhow Castro and we will call it a day. Elsewise we'll just have to continue this occupation and also take all your powerplants! Oh, and btw you are doing warcrimes by recruting civilians to resist us.
No.530916
>>530911Russia already has started blocking Facebok, Twitter works extremely slowly for some, they also prohibited the media to call it war and not "special operation", so we expect full censorship mode that will not be lifted later
No.530918
>>530905three hours forty five minutes and eight seconds
No.530920
>>530903russia will suffer in the short term but cutting out a big economic partner like russia out of the dollar system, will accerlerate dedolarization
it will get rid of putin while at the same time fuck over the us in the long term
No.530922
>>530913idk, not to get information out? to stop communication
my country shutsdown the internet if a whatsapp rumor spread a little
No.530924
>>530914Imperialism is when America doing stuff, stop being childish
No.530928
>>530903both Russia and China have (shitty) alternatives already and cutting Russia of is an irreversible step FROM the petrodollar. Not that you are wrong but neither am I
No.530930
>>530903Exaclty. That's why it won't happen. Russia is not a fucking iran. Europe is fucked without russia. Only americans will be okay after such a decision.
No.530932
>>530916tor is also blocked at least the default bridges
No.530934
>>530796the last round of sanctions were nothing getting cut from SWIFT is getting cut from 90 percent of global Capital.
No.530936
>>530920guys we're forgetting the most important question
does this mean GPU prices will go down
No.530937
>Banderovites and neonazis were using "jihad-mobiles" to stall Russia advances. They are now popularily called 'bander-mobiles"
No.530939
>>530914Cuba is socialist therefore they deserve uncritical support. Rope.
No.530940
>>530936This means that the price on fucking bread will go up, idioit.
No.530944
>>530886>nazis = anti-semitismTerribly american take.
Israel is basically a nazi state.
No.530946
>>530942Look at that. The USSR wished it had propaganda like that. Fucking monstrous.
No.530948
>>530940How? If they stop giving chips to russia then wouldn't there be more chips to go around to the rest of the world?
No.530950
>NEWS: France & Italy now support ejecting Russia from SWIFT banking network. UK, Canada, Netherlands now publicly advocating for it, @business reports. Germany last big hold-out. This punishment, considered the “nuclear” financial option, seemed to have zero chance just days ago.Bloomberg
https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1497559693195157506?s=20&t=MdZ3ffRHGihSHsx-P8Pchg No.530951
>>530939Ok change it to iraq then illiterate americanoid
No.530953
>>530892AFP and Reuters tell that Ukrainian Department of Health has confirmed 197 civilian deaths 2 of them children.
No.530957
>>530896I agree, but for that to happen, NATO needs to GTFO, and Ukraine government either needs to stop existing or yield.
No.530959
>>530930>Only americans will be okay after such a decision.no they won't. americans are already super grumpy these days and they really don't like inflation and high gas prices. the country won't run out of gas, but it will be seeing rising prices all over.
No.530961
>>530942Welcome to the brave new world.
No.530967
>>530951Was Iraq building Chinese or Russian military bases on its soil?
No.530969
>>530942It warms my heart that redditors will taste absolute defeat in the coming days. Not much, but warms
No.530971
>>530948You can't build no modern shit without oil. And it just so happens that russia is one of the largest oilt producers.
No.530973
>>530911Russia has blocked access to Facebook.
No.530975
>>530964I hate anti-imperialists so much, It's unreal
I have been saying this for so long, I don't trust any anti-imperialist that doesn't call themselves a communist also
No.530977
>>530967So you admit it's about geopolitics and not "le hecking nazis"?
No.530979
>>530969They tasted defeat while cheering on Palestine too against israel during their conflict.
Does that mean they shouldn't have supported them?
No.530981
>>530964tank poster exposed :OOOO
No.530983
>>530975They often call themselves communist
No.530984
Do any of you guys remember WASBAPPIN that guy who used to be on twitter and was super fucking obsessed with overthrowing Assad and wanted to nuke Russia over the Tulsa Massacre?
https://substack.com/profile/35348090-wasbappinI am proud to tell you the guy is writing articles on Substack and it is the most deranged shit imaginable.
No.530986
>>530964This pretty much sums up the state of leftypol. SAD!
No.530988
>>530964the cancer that plagues this board in 1 image.
No.530991
>>530953Yeah, it may sound strange, but i'm not going to believe ukranian propaganda.
No.530993
Reports of provocations Ukrainians are preparing to meet Russia troops. Mainly, training snipers to shoot at civilians ala Maidan, to create panic amongst civilians and to produce the required TV picture
No.530995
>>530928You are right but China rivaling SWIFT is decades away, they will inevitably reach equality with the West but Russia will enter an economic tail spin that will make the great depression and USSR crackup look like a slowday on the markets. They would be cut out from 90 percent of global capital.
No.530997
>>530903>>530920>>530928all correct, non contradictory takes.
No.530999
>>530975Saying that you're anti-imperialist and a communist is redundant, being the latter automatically makes you the former.
No.531001
>>530983Not from my experience, I have outright seen anti-socialist imperialists on twitter
That's what makes my blood boil
No.531003
>>530964any hope for the first requires the second tho
No.531005
>>530979>redditors cheering on PalestineOh sweet summer child, you haven't been on reddit those days, haven you?
No.531007
>>530964Anti Imperialism is the highest stage of class struggle. Breaking American hegemony is the same thing as defeating capitalism.
No.531009
>>530959No shit. But americans are only gonna get grumpy, when the europeans will be totally fucked.
No.531014
>>531005????
Reddit shit all over Israel for the last year all the time
No.531017
>>530500It'ss what happenss when reactoids suddenly find themselves not being actively oppressed. They fuck everything up for everyone, it's in their nature.
No.531019
>>531007Im sure the ukrainians are really enjoying their socialist utopia right now
No.531020
>>531009i don't know how much grumpier they can get before something snaps, is what i mean
No.531022
Anti-war protests in Israel are being surrounded by riot police
No.531024
>>531019Ensuring Ukraine does not enter NATO and purging it's military and state institutions of nazis will be a rudimentary first step towards it.
cope
No.531025
>>531012Then you're a sad occidentalized fool. Many third world communists, from Che to Ho Chi Minh, were anti-imperialists first before becoming communists. You can be an anti-imperialist without being a communist, but you can't be a communist without being anti-imperialist.
No.531028
>>531022based settlers??????
No.531031
>>531007>Breaking American hegemony is the same thing as defeating capitalismthey're not the same thing, but you have to do the first before there's any chance of doing the second
No.531034
>>530964>>531031bitches don't know what a prerequiste is and using it as the greatest gotcha.
stay in school kids.
No.531036
>>531030Redditors attack Israel non stop on any article about them
And post stuff supporting Palestine a lot especially during conflicts.
That poster made no sense
No.531038
>>531024Just admit the war is an imperialist conflict and drop this noble anti nazi bullshit. Putin won't change a single fucking thing in Ukraine
No.531040
>>531031and people just spontaneously forgot how the soviet union ended, to now pretend NATO is basically an UN like organization
No.531042
>>531025Ask me how I know you're american
No.531044
>>531038Just wait a couple days and we will see just how retarded was the opinion of yours, pal.
No.531045
>>531044I'll wait patiently. Capitalist states don't care about fascism
No.531047
>>531040This. People expect that any socialist revolution won't be met with bellicose opposition from NATO.
No.531049
>>530975nobody calls themselves communist anymore
No.531051
>>530690>Seems like all of them.Turning Ukraine into a new Libya is the kind of thing NATO would do.
>But NATO will likely intervene before Ukranians drag Zelenskyy through the streets.However, coming true for non-Nazi allies is not.
No.531056
>>530928They’re going to have to rely on each other or die.
No.531060
BROS!!!
>The federal government must commit itself as soon as possible to excluding Russia from the payment service provider #SWIFT together with its western partners !
>The federal government of Germany must commit itself, together with its partners, to excluding Russia from #SWIFT immediately.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Socialists_in_the_SPD
>Young Socialists in the SPDhttps://twitter.com/jusos/status/1497543748384804867?s=20&t=MdZ3ffRHGihSHsx-P8PchgGermany socialist don't support Russia
No.531062
>>531053I'm sure you get many friends that way
No.531064
>>531047I srsly just think theyre shills or even worse - Americas that are not ready to break with their empire. Just dont believe in people making you think youre crazy - theyre not even honest
No.531066
>>531042I'm not. As far as I'm concerned it's still early morning in the States. If anything, if you're not a Westerner nor American it's pretty pathetic that you're against anti imperialism as much as you are. Many working class people stand by against imperialism at all forms, and the ones most susceptible to socialism are the ones who feel that socialism is the only path for their liberation. Che was an anti-imperialist first before communist, and so was Fidel, and so was Ho Chi Minh. I can quote some literature if you do so please.
No.531068
>>531060German socialists (socdems) killed Rosa, they dont even pretend to be socialist after their own words anymore.
Pls just write socdems or SPD or Rosa-Killers or whatever
No.531073
>>531058That's a special kind of a retard
No.531075
>>531003This was the context of that discussion as well and anglos take it out of context and cry about evil tankies opposing their empire.
No.531077
>>531070I propose we make "as a russian" folks who feel so bad for attacking Ukraine pay for the restoration of Ukraine and Donbass out of their pockets when the war is over.
No.531081
>>531062Well yeah they say a communist org isn't a social club but who are we kidding
No.531082
> The next Russian weapons can be produced in 3-4 months – if even that. They have no raw materials. What was previously supplied mainly from Slovenia, Finland and Germany is now cut off.
No.531084
>>531081your only friends are literal glowies in those orgs
No.531086
>>531025Did I say I'm not an anti-imperialist?
I'm talking how anti-imperialism has been turned into a joke on this board and online
No.531088
>>531082What does it even mean?
No.531090
>>531075Anglos should be given IP flags like in /pol/. Would save up a lot of time.
No.531092
>>531071it's over for russia
NATO wins by doing nothing
No.531095
>>531049I do and others should continue to do so
Commmunists are the eteranl boogeyman of capital, We should be proud of being a terror
No.531098
>>530991But you trust Russian? Their defense ministry announced no russian has died in the war
No.531099
Why would you be afraid to declare yourself a communist lol?
No.531103
>>531060>supporting liberal sanctions as a socialistIt’s weirdly comforting to know that these “socialist” parties around the world are ideologically bankrupt and it’s not just where I live.
No.531106
>>531079Guerilla warfare in sucha situation is only possible by taking civilians hostage. That's what nazi collaborators were doing until 1950s there
No.531107
>>531099I mean I can understand in countries where it is illegal but other places it is kinda stupid not to
No.531109
>>530850Hating America is not a personality trait. Grow up.
No.531111
>>531084No I'm not in the CPI lol
No.531113
>>531058tbh this actually makes the OG "tank man" look like a fucking idiot in retrospect
No.531114
Which do you imagine is harder to defeat for our russian communist comrades
Putin's regime+ now ukraine vs NATO puppet regime that US would install
Do we know who is the planned or suspected NATO peopel in russia who would take power
No.531116
>>531104Luxemburg was wrong and had she listened to Lenin she wouldn't have been killed.
At least the Russian Revolution was victorious and didn't end after a week.
No.531118
>>531090Mods could do it but they won't. Not even for a trial 2 week period. It would improve posting quality immensely.
No.531120
>>531098I don't trust russian either. But i've been browsing telegram channels both russian and ukranian for the past 2 days and i have not seen the destruction of homes of civilians. Besides the ones in DNR and LNR. They are being bombed a plenty.
Both cases of the damage of ukranian civilian districts were caused by ukranian army themselves.
No.531122
>>531104This is why women should run the world.
No.531124
>>531104>personally set up the conditions for the USSR to fail in 1991how
like what specifically
No.531126
>>531107We are surely not talking about Iran or something. Communist party openly works even in Ukraine (they have a court decision to ban one communist party but it wasn't enforced and is still on appeal)
No.531130
>>531114NATO and Putin are on the same side when it comes to crushing socialists, nothing will fundamentally change in this front.
No.531133
>>531106They are doing this now. Ukranian army is stationed inside the cities. In the civilian districts near the schools and hospitals.
No.531135
>>531128Uh-huh, Russia being depended for weapon production on Slovenia, Germany and Finland. Who are they taking us for, complete morons?
No.531137
>>531130That I agree
But who is easier to defeat you would say for the russian people
It would be NATO I imagine seeing how they are losers in Venezuela and couldn't install that dude
No.531139
>>531128if it's not written in Cyrillic I assume it is lies
No.531141
>>531130Still think they aren’t crushed as easily under Putin.
No.531143
>>531088Russia will run out of ammo because it imported the material to make them from the west and the west won't trade with them anymore.
No.531145
Public support of Russia's actions in Ukraine can be punished in the Czech Republic by prison - Prosecutor General's Office
No.531147
>>531124This is the same narrative pushed during his speech justifying the operation. Evil Lenin created artificial nations which fueled nationalists who destroyed the USSR
No.531153
>>531104You are invited to read right of nations to self determination with us at Continental Floppa matrix and make a fool of yourself
No.531155
>>531128I don't believe anybody anything anymore especially when the source is a random Ukrainian officer. This is just QAnon shit for libs.
There is an insane amount of disinfo going on, it feels like there are no sources on the ground, just whatever the Ukrainian government tells you. I watched a video of a CNN reporter claiming the soldiers in the background were Russian, only to refer to them 3 minutes later as Ukrainian.
No.531157
>>531104There is nothing vague about self-determination. It is the right to secede and form one's own nation. This is extremely well established. Lenin's counterargument is quite clear on it, while Rosa's is muddled.
Read here:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/self-det/index.htm#ch09We happen to have a reading group that will be discussing this text today, at 6pm UTC. You are invited to join and off a counter-argument from a Luxemburgist perspective, if you are so inclined.https://matrix.to/#/!mjlMGagFTDhvgxMWhY:matrix.org/ No.531161
>>531104She is the true successor of Marx. Throw your Lenin books in the garbage.
No.531163
>>531139It is lies. Says that Russia is dependent of fucking Slovenia for weaponry production. Also, tries to blame Russians for panic, and to AGAIN to prepare civilian sacral sacrifices and to blame the Russia for it
No.531165
>>531135They are taking us for liberals i guess
No.531168
>>531161She was theoretically wrong on several crucial issues, including economics and politics. The only Luxemburg fags I've met IRL were full blown libs that liked lukewarm red aesthetics. Keep coping.
No.531169
>>531159Surely, but that's what it means.
No.531171
>Prime Minister @MorawieckiM in #Berlin 🇩🇪:
>Today there is no time for the selfishness that we see also here in #Germany.
>This is why I came to @OlafScholz to shake Germany's conscience so that they decide on firm and crushing sanctions that would influence Putin's decisions.https://twitter.com/PLPermRepEU/status/1497551601585823749?s=20&t=L2K3Nm8O6gxopiERhw5zfQ-Permanent Representation of Poland to the EU
Stałe Przedstawicielstwo RP przy UE
No.531173
>>531128All this is based on Ukrainian Intel. Those morons don't read what their actual intelligence and military experts write but listen to unreliable drivel that pleases their ears. I didn't believe at first but I'm more and more inclined to think a good chunk of the western political class are redditors with suits.
No.531175
>>531128False flag operations to make Ukrainians look mad looks like a realistic perspective, the rest is bullshit
No.531178
>>531060>SPD calling themselves socialists, cheering on for imperialism/naziismA tale as old as time.
No.531180
>>531161Rosa is social chauvinist, naturalized chauvinisim from being raised in an imperial country. First worlders love Rosa because of this and because she was made a martyr while being social chauvinist. Occidentalists get fucked
No.531182
>>530455>leftist is fit and slim, pushing correct line on Russia>rightoid is fat and cringe, incoherent politics as expectedoh I get it, it's a variant of the chad vs soyjack meme.
No.531186
What did Marx think of the self-determination of nations?
No.531189
>>531180>Rosa is social chauvinist, naturalized chauvinisim from being raised in an imperial country.any book or article recommendations on this?
No.531191
>>531186That it was cool and based
No.531194
>>531135Probably high-tech components for the missiles.
No.531196
>>531071Why would a Ukrainian officer have access to Intel from Putin's secret lair? I would question this even if it came form the Americans. I smell cope and a propaganda op.
No.531200
>>531186What did Marx think of the internet?
No.531202
>>531189Read the thesis that Lenin responds to in Right of Nations to Self Determination. Or just read that with us today at Continental Floppa matrix
No.531204
>>531184>indiscriminatebased intersectional MLRS
No.531206
>>531186Marx was a freeloader retard, who cares what he thought
No.531209
>>531202>Read the thesis that Lenin responds to in Right of Nations to Self Determination.I already did, like 3 years ago.
No.531214
>I thank my friend Mr. President of 🇹🇷 @RTErdogan and the people of 🇹🇷 for their strong support. The ban on the passage of 🇷🇺 warships to the Black Sea and significant military and humanitarian support for 🇺🇦 are extremely important today. The people of 🇺🇦 will never forget that!-zelensky president of Ukraine
15 minutes ago
https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1497564078897774598?s=20&t=L2K3Nm8O6gxopiERhw5zfQ No.531215
>>531206Being a freeloader is based though
No.531216
>>531204Chauvinistic Ukranians:
>Nooooo! Only men should die!!!!! Women have superior right to life!!Feminist Russians:
>woosh woosh boom boom bitches No.531217
How is the ukranian volkssturm performing so far?
No.531218
>>531184Marxist-Leninist Rocket System
No.531219
>>531214This Twitter guy said this about Zelensky tweet
>Turkish readout didn’t mention any decision to close the straits to Russian warships. I think this is just a request
>Montreux Convention gives a clear right to Russians to return their ships to their original ports in Black Sea even in the time of war, even Moscow is belligerent.
>So there is no way out of ithttps://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1497566426118463489?s=20&t=L2K3Nm8O6gxopiERhw5zfQ No.531220
This is the first day where it feels like a nothingburger. Are Ukrainians putting that much of a fight?
No.531221
>>531209🧠😎🧠 Read it again. Or, look up any more stuff by her on marxists.org.
Or read Right of Nations to Self Determination by Lenin with us in Continental Floppa
No.531222
>>531062I have openly supported North Korea and my friends barely care
No.531223
>>531214Ah yes Erdogan the humanitarian. I'll put this one next to the Bush quote.
No.531224
Any updated map on the confilct?
No.531225
>>531217So far they have been successful in securing the existence of their people and a future for Ukrainian children.
No.531226
>>531217Pretty good, been fighting Russian saboteurs all day and night. Saboteurs are suspiciously civilian, some crazy people think that these are actual civilians and giving weapons to them was a mistake.
No.531227
>>531224https://liveuamap.com/it's shit and very Western-biased but I've seen no alternative.
No.531230
>>531128>Trying to nigerian prince NATOnice
No.531232
>>531217They seem to have some success in halting Russian advance in Kharkov.
No.531233
>>531226Also important to remember is that saboteurs will pretend to be part of the national guard
No.531234
>>531214Turkey has a lot of money invested in Ukraine's MIC. Unlike China's investment, they can't just not comply since they really needed that money considering the current state of Turkey's economy.
No.531235
>>531217They are shooting themselves. Literally killing echother.
No.531236
>>531233Ah, yes! Wearing uniform to disorient brave defenders
No.531237
>>531217Impossible to tell as both sides have been remarkably good at OPsec, I have only seen them setting up checkpoints. They likely complicate matters for Russia moving into urban areas though, Infantry pushes are a non-starter now so they will need to bring up a large amount of armor.
No.531238
>>531200Marx said the trustworthiness of what you see posted on the Internet isn't correlated to its position on the NATO-Russian oligarchy interests axis.
No.531239
>>531223Erdogan was actually pretty chill for years until like 2016 where he was into some neo-ottomon phase
man seems like he chilled out the past year though
No.531240
STATEMENT BY GERMANY READ
>German Ambassador to the US
>Russia does not have the economic and financial power to back its military power. Its gross domestic product is that of a medium-sized European economy.
>The West’s sanctions will drive Russia to ruin.https://twitter.com/GermanAmbUSA/status/1497567369933250566?s=20&t=WguqzeD1oIAcT9Yg5wDPMQ No.531241
>>531226Lol. The fucking ukranian policemen today killed their own SBU agent
No.531244
>>531239Erdogan had to put water in his wine because his domestic economy cannot follow his ambitions
No.531245
>>531231>>531242wish we could upload .svg
I had this problem dozens of times
No.531246
>>531241lel they’re eating eachother
No.531248
>>531226The only thing they will succeed in is making russian soldiers shoot civilians at the drop of a hat.
No.531249
>>530610>Russia will be made an example of and no other nation will dare go against NATOAnd do you think letting NATO establish bases in Ukraine and then getting Finland to join later would have put Russia and the working class in any better position you stupid fuck? Right now the West can threaten Russia with sanctions which is still terrible for the working class but better than threatening Russia with a mass of NATO troops right at their doorstep in addition to sanctions. A neutral Ukraine is a lynch pin for continued world peace which apparently nobody but Russia wants and somehow many fail to understand including yourself. For such an important and complicated topic, there seems to be no shortage of people eager to express their hasty uninformed opinions.
No.531250
>>531227Lol. This site says "access denied" for russian IPs
No.531251
>>531250correct decision, imo
No.531252
>>531217They're performing well as a target practice for each other.
No.531255
>>531249Correct. Why is this so hard to understand for liberals?
No.531257
>>531240They really underestimate the punishment a country can take. It's always like this with them but Cuba Iran and North Korea are still going strong
No.531258
>>531251Meh. Militarymaps.info is a better alternative either way
No.531259
>>530686Dunno if its an imperialist war but Ukraine isn't NATO
No.531260
>>531251they don't want to mislead russian army imo
No.531262
Why isn't Russia right now not getting into full war economy? Just full out planned economy
No.531265
>>531257Russia doesn't have a principled Pro-Putin population. Economic downturn means Putin easily looses approval and intense internal turmoil. If things go as NATO wants, Putin is out before the end of this decade.
No.531266
>>531254>crimea and sevastopol become useless over nightI did not see this coming
No.531267
>>531242Ukrainian forces are trying to pull back from Severodonetsk to Kramatorsk and Slovyansk, but are getting stalled. Desperate attempt to escape encirclement. Russia moves to cut them off to destroy "nationalist battalions" completely, with the order issued of taking no prisoners.
No.531268
>>531147Someone's been reading Rosa Luxembourg
No.531269
>>531262>Playing too many map gamesThis is not a long term conflict, no need to mobilize the economy
No.531270
Georgia and Moldova are neighboring countries of our Union, they are our partners and friends. To their presidents, I reaffirmed this morning our determination to support them against any attempt at tension and destabilization. United in the crisis, we will be.
-macron president of France
4 minutes ago
https://twitter.com/EmmanuelMacron/status/1497570453237342208?s=20&t=GZYVTzexK3hYvwwpJdV13A No.531272
>>531263It's been 3 days only. Tomorrow everything will be over though.
No.531273
>>531263can't use all your best weapons at the start of war, man.
No.531274
>tag SOV
>delete army
>tag UKR
>op SOV
heh, nothin personnel
No.531275
>>531273so… Tsar bomba when?
No.531276
>>531263It took the Americans over two weeks to take Baghdad back in 2003 and Iraq is roughly half the size of Ukraine.
No.531277
>VIENNA – Ahead of a meeting with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and Lithuanian President Gitanas Nauseda in Berlin Saturday afternoon, Poland’s prime minister has urged Germany to put aside “selfishness” and “egoism” and offer substantive support to the people of Ukraine.
>“Nothing is going to stop Putin if we are not decisive enough,” Mateusz Morawiecki said in Berlin. “This is a very historic moment… we have no time to lose.”
>Morawiecki said Germany’s aid thus far — of military helmets, not weapons – is a far cry from what’s necessary to help Ukraine defend itself.
>“What kind of help was delivered to Ukraine? Five thousand helmets? This must be a joke,” Morawiecki said.
>He added that the sanctions on Russia need to be “crushing,” calling for the exclusion of Russia from the SWIFT global financial system and for measures targeting Putin himself, oligarchs who back him, and Russian business more broadly.-AP
27 MINUTES AGO
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-united-nations-general-assembly-kyiv-boris-johnson-business-2db2e7aeab196d941e7b66492feca14b No.531278
>>531263Ukraine is the second largest country in Europe, just behind Russia. There no way Russian were going to traverse the whole thing in a few days.
No.531279
>>531263it's not even 3 days, ukraine is big as fuck and russia is still in its foreplay phase
No.531280
>Banning Russia from SWIFT could cause significant damage to its economy, but also to countries worldwide - including Germany - as it would affect companies and banks that trade with Russia.
>But what is SWIFT exactly?DW (Germany public funded media) made a short 1 minute swift video just now
https://twitter.com/dw_politics/status/1497572659889983489?s=20&t=jsaA0pEOCak1XM9kmgRTdg No.531281
>>531278Hungary is the third largest country in Europe and it took Russia 1956 minutes to conquer it.
No.531282
>>531265I hope so. I don't want to live in a dystopian hellhole
No.531284
>>531280IMO the whole universe except burgers and their EU cucks should be banned from SWIFT.
SWIFT should be limited to "international community", not these apparent extraterrestrials that make the majority of earth's population.
No.531286
>>531274I've seen an Ukr playing Vic2 as Russian Empire, mobilizing everyone, and marching Russian pops through Siberia to kill them.
No.531287
>>531217<At once two People's Deputies of Ukraine Yulia Paliychuk and David Arakhamiya confirmed the friendly fire on Obolon.The townspeople, who were given weapons, in an atmosphere of confusion, mistook the truck and the anti-aircraft installation of the Ukrainian Armed Forces for enemy equipment and opened fire on it. The Kievans shot the crew of the truck, and the anti-aircraft gun managed to leave, crushing a civilian car in a panic.
Also looting has started in Kharkiv, and reports of looting in other cities as well.
No.531288
>Dear 🇩🇪Federal Government, how much longer do you want to stand by and watch as we Ukrainians are 🇷🇺murdered by the air force and rockets and cities are bombed in front of your eyes? We urgently need 🇩🇪ANTI-AIRCRAFT missiles to protect people. That would be real solidarity-Ambassador of Ukraine to Germany
https://twitter.com/MelnykAndrij/status/1497499312300826629?s=20&t=9y2bseVdl-ddR8Mvb7jsXQ4 hours ago
No.531289
>>531282>I don't want to live in a dystopian hellholewrong century m8
No.531290
>>531281USSR was stronger than Russia, that's all there is to it.
No.531291
>>531276and Iraq spent the prior 10 years being disarmed and sanctioned to death. ukriane spent the last 8 being flooded with weaponry.
No.531293
>>531284DAmn Bro I didn't know the Space Comrades have been on Earth this Entire time and they were just anyone that isn't Western Europe and the US. Holy shit bro I been talking with ETs this entire time when I was talking with the Mexicanos.
No.531294
>>531280banning russia from swift is retarded
A whole nation shouldn't get punished for one man actions
No.531295
>>531294did you wake up from a multi-decade coma? sanctions are the primary way the US deals with countries they don't like
No.531296
>>531294it actually punishes everyone. burger and euro proles will all get poorer too. all for their stupid fucking power games.
No.531297
>>531294Banning Russia from SWIFT is retarded because Europeans will have to pay enormous American prices for gas. Meanwhile, China is willing to buy more and more Russian gas. It will fucking murder European industries. If EU cucks follow US lead, they'll basically suicide themselves
No.531302
>Spoke with 🇮🇳 Prime Minister @narendramodi. Informed of the course of 🇺🇦 repulsing 🇷🇺 aggression. More than 100,000 invaders are on our land. They insidiously fire on residential buildings. Urged 🇮🇳 to give us political support in🇺🇳 Security Council. Stop the aggressor together!-zelensky president of Ukraine
1 hour ago
https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1497555947023224836?s=20&t=UmHcSM9afCMomXTmiRU6yA No.531304
>>531295Russia economic footprint is big enough to hurt everybody though
>>531296This
No.531307
>>531300Frist one was legitimate as fuck, given that US and EU were propagandizing imminent attack for months.
No.531310
> Some Russian media like "Novaya Gazeta" didn't hear our warnings. They are publishing fake information created by band of nationalists high on drugs and security agents. - Ministry of Defense said. Earlier Russia threatened all outlets publishing information without strict adherence to official state sources and calling the de-nazification operation "war" with persecution.Novaya Gazeta said that MoD doesn't respond to official requests for information so they'll continue their activity.
https://t.me/novaya_pishet/36533 No.531312
>>531300why does he look like zelensky here? Oh nevermind I see. "Zelensky stays president after minor facial surgery"
No.531314
>>531077As a slav from a NATO-cucked country I am willing to receive money, that would otherwise be spent on NATO arms deals, into my personal pockets.
No.531319
>>531297That's why the success of this operation will destroy american hegemony.
No.531322
>>531214>>531288>>531302replacing country names with flag emojis is peak cringe
No.531324
>>531322also not working in my opera
No.531326
>>531307This.
t. glowing NATO shill who doesn't support liberating Ukrainians from their lives
No.531329
>>531302He does nothing but talk and talk pointlessly. Pizdabol
No.531332
>>531307Would have been better if he just camped his troops on the border then did nothing for years while the west howled about him.
No.531335
>>531326You again, faggot? Your drivel only works on brainwashed liberals.
No.531337
>>531332By better, I mean funnier
No.531339
>>531329Cocaine is a helluvadrug
No.531343
>>531322zelensky is just channeling the european politicians-cum-instagram influencers
No.531344
>>531332Wake up dude. That's what has been happenign for 8 fucking years since all this bullshit started.
No.531346
GERMANY STATEMENT
>After a #SWIFT exclusion of Russia, energy supplies from #Russia may still be paid for in the future. Our high dependency on gas supplies from Russia is therefore not a viable argument against the sanctions that are now necessary. (FM) #Ukrainechairman of@CDUof Germany. Group leader @CDUCSUBT Friedrich Merz (FM) and his team (tm) tweet here
https://twitter.com/_FriedrichMerz/status/1497574324240371714?s=20&t=TABsscbsFfh5JPUl5FE5Dghttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Merz
>Friedrich Merz (born 11 November 1955) is a German lawyer and politician, serving as Leader of the Christian Democratic Union (CDU) since 31 January 2022 and as leader of the Union parliamentary group and Leader of the Opposition of the Bundestag since 15 February 2022.[1] No.531348
>>531281>Hungary is the third largest country in Europelove how people left this unchallenged
No.531350
I have some insights I think I can patch together with the available data.
Putin is probably surrounded by a host of yes-men even in this critical arena of military. Tis probably explains the slow adaptation of troops on the ground, confused conscripts surrendering, not knowing they're in Ukraine, etc… The paratrooper drops without support. Negative feedback is part of our evolution, like putting your hand on a hot stove. Obviously, something/someone is ignoring a lot of this negative feedback on the first 2 days of the invasion; and given the immense stakes involved, that ignorance is willfully happening despite instincts to change in the chain of command. That is a telling sign, I believe.
Ideologically speaking, Putin is a Tsarist-Bolshevik-Nationalist. He borrows from all three of these ideologies much like a swiss army knife. Each tool serves a purpose and appeals to a major demographic that he needs to keep supporters on board. He never leans too heavily into either too much. Nor does he lean out of either too much. But this invitation is like the perfect coalescence of these three elements, combined with an inflated ego of near unlimited power plus yes-men, this invasion looks more like an invitation for Putin. Easy pickings.
When looking at maps of territory held by Russians. The big red blob they're in doesn't represent troop positions. Russia is only going to park troops in towns or cities. So the space between them is empty. They're going for deep-strike operations it seems, and their BTGs are not entirely suited to it without a large paramilitary (read: cannon-fodder) support element to protect the flanks and make up for the low ration of materiel to men.
Zelenskyy going for negotiation was implied from the beginning. He does not want to be under attack. He's willing to negotiate because that means less/no fighting is happening. Diplomacy is about sending out as many feelers as you can to gauge the temperature of the other party. Of course, he'd prefer to bargain from a position of strength, but there is strength in the fact that there are relative levels of annoyance that Kyiv can manufacture for Russia in perpetuity. That's no exaggeration. What we're witnessing may be the largest nation-building and identity-forming event in the last 50 years. A puppet regime may be installed, but the idea of a free Ukraine with its own destiny free of a Russian leash cannot be wiped from Ukrainians' memory. The West learned from the Baltics during the Cold War: recognition of states' original borders despite however long it takes for them to become free, works.
This leads me into the long game for Putin. Still hard to see what he realistically aims to get without bogging Russia in a massive regime-support quagmire a la Afghanistan. This isn't Syria where there's a leader in a city who just needs control over the rest of the territory. Nor is this like the Georgian conflicts in 2008 where the separatist enclaves had existed for 6-7 years before and had been established in generally internationally-approved ways. Demilitarisation and denazification obviously aim towards kangaroo courts and a range of punitive measures against what Putin believes are elements in Ukraine's society that are anti-Kremlin. But everyone knows that. If I had to guess, I believe he's looking to completely annex the territories of his perceived "Novorossiya" territories (the South-East region of Ukraine), and then install a puppet to rule over rump Russia-approved Ukraine in the North and West.
Lastly, I think the implications of this war for the world are huge. Nothing happens for a decade, and then a decade happens in a week, Lenin said. We're seeing a total paradigm shift away from the post-Cold War order for Russia. How that'll take shape will be determined in the next 2 to 6 months.
Other predictions: Kyiv needs to last at least a week to keep Ukraine in a good bargaining position and to make costs high for Putin. By "Kyiv lasting" I mean that Spetznaz groups haven't made it into the centre and dragging Zelenskyy and other Verkhovna Rada deputies out by the hair to stand trial for "Nazism" or whatever dumb shit Putin has pre-arranged. I think there's a very good chance for this to play out, because of how resilient Ukraine's military has been so far. The next 2 days are vital because there'll be no snow. But from Monday to Friday there should be snow, which should make movements slower and defending easier. Ukraine needs to keep a western corridor open from Kyiv to L'viv to facilitate transport of materiel. Ukraine also needs to drastically up its pressure on the west to keep increasing sanction pressure.
No.531351
>>531343Well, zelensky was a comedian on the tv before his presidency. No joking.
No.531353
The propaganda is getting out of hand
They paint a mobile trash incinitator as a mobile crematorium.
https://nypost.com/2022/02/24/russia-has-mobile-crematoriums-that-evaporate-the-dead-report/ No.531355
>>531329he's a telephone kurba
No.531357
>>531287>gives you gun>expect you to fight and die in their stupid war for the west> loot shit insteadMy uyghas
No.531358
>>531350>Zelenskyy going for negotiation was implied from the beginningNo he isn't. Zelensky is only stalling for time.
No.531360
>>531350Copy pasted from reddit, kys.
Also
>taking every ukranian MoD statement as fact and making insane assumption for russian plans No.531363
>>531300Clearly Caleb even with his job at RT, either wasn't in "the know" about Russia's plans with ukraine, or had an idea and wasn't allowed to say. I think that information was too important for caleb to know, so he wasn't aware russia was gonna invade ukraine and has been trying to spin it since. He's been great at criticizing USA but Russians don't like being criticized
No.531365
>>531353already shooting insults like AK47 automatic rounds onto redditards but its shooting into a mental void
No.531367
>>531357That's khokhols for you
No.531372
>>531350>Ideologically speaking, Putin is a Tsarist-Bolshevik-NationalistFuck off redditor
No.531374
>>531350Actually god analysis, rare thing here lately.
No.531379
>>531350>how resilient Ukraine's military has been so farIs that why they have been recruiting children for the past 2 days to throw at the meatgrinder?
No.531381
>>531186He said it was cringe and spooked
No.531383
>>531374Lol. Stop replying to yourself, man. It's embarrasing
No.531386
>>531350Tell me you didn't write that and found it somewhere only to bait here
No.531391
>>531377No civilians were killed, gladly.
No.531393
>>531186marx said TRANS RIGHTS
No.531396
>>531297America and Canada will almost immediately sign a deal for cheaper exports, the sharts would be absolutely retarded to give up what would effectively be reviving the Marshall plan. The idiots talking about this weaking US hegemony are fools this will strengthen the US massively, crush Russia and tie the West irrevocably tighter.
No.531400
>>531383Now you will call me a liberal and tell to fuck off, right? Tankie echo-chamber makes all dissenters samefags i guess.
No.531406
>>531398makes no sense even as a joke, it should the other way around
No.531409
>>531400Lol. Stop replying to yourself, man. It's embarrasing
No.531411
>>531346>Swift expulsion>we will still trade with Russia thoughLol, Germany De-dollarizes
No.531413
>>531398We are all romanian
No.531415
>>531186He supported Ireland and Poland but thought Czechs and South Slavs were cringe.
No.531417
>>531393based marx
truly ahead of his time
No.531420
>>531353>mobile crematoriumsBurgers love being lied to, and the more sensational the lie, the easier they believe it.
It’s kind of incredible how the bourgeois have psychological conditioned them this way.
No.531423
>>531353Most army have incinerators in their logistical trains though. What would you do of the bits of people body parts charred remnants etc without it? Just stroll with a convoy of refrigerated trucks? Let them rot and pollute the water? War is messy, people just don't realize it
No.531427
>>531360wow
no way, that's why i had a lib feeling while reading that putin analysis
they always create such a mythos about him
No.531429
>>531420But of course, the only ideology is a communist ideology. And the only propaganda is a communist propaganda.
That's what they are always saying
No.531431
BIDEN TO MEET WITH SECURITY TEAM AT 10am ET, 30 minutes
No.531435
>>531425Would deng be happy?
Deng would probably try to still trade with Russia while trying to show the appearance of holding sanctions
No.531439
>>531433me
i'll keep you posted specifically anon
No.531441
>>531104tfw Putin was a secret Luxemburgist this whole time
No.531444
China is a snake in the grass. Everyone should mow their lawn.
No.531446
>>789294
go back to newsmax
No.531452
>>789294
hello uncle kumar
No.531454
Squad of Ukrainian soldiers that was said to have perished under an extreme Russian bombardment of the Snake island in the Black Sea and which were supposed to be post-humosly awarded medals…
ARE ACTUALLY ALIVE AND SURRENDERED TO THE RUSSIANS.
Ukrainian soldiers were transported to Sevastopol by the towboat "Sahtyor" and after certain procedures, they will be allowed to return to their families.
Source:
https://t.me/rt_russian/95045 No.531456
>>789296
why can't china into german diplomacy :(
No.531458
>>789298
>vasyl cuck
No.531460
>>789300
>RT
No.531462
>>789300
No the people in the boat died for nothing because they were morons but the people on the island were smart and surrendered.
No.531464
>>789300
I would keep them in crimea for a while, the ukrainian regime might "disappear" them to maintain the myth
No.531466
>>789300
I hope this is true and that none died for that stupid faggy rock
No.531470
I feel like in today's world it's become completely impossible to have the Correct Analysis (R) on any major international event, there's just so much disinformation and lies being spread around that no one knows what to believe anymore.
No.531474
>>789289
No. You misunderstood the situation. Start again from the top.
No.531476
>>789308
Russia has suffered zero casualties, stop watching propaganda
No.531482
>>789300
This will be remembered as the nicest invasion in history
No.531484
>>788934
Post link to the Ukrainian communist statement
No.531486
>>789300
This is from 2014, yo mods delete this shit, it keeps getting spammed.
No.531490
>>789317
proof
No.531494
>>789317
proofs?
Looking at the uniforms it doesn't seem like 2014.
No.531496
>>789309
It's pretty easy to tell lies from the truth if you're not retarded. Most propaganda is aimed at non-discriminating people.
No.531498
>>789296
it's not "masterful diplomacy", they're going to get shoot themselves to hurt the bear.
the pic is rel to burgers, if anything, pitting europe against russia so that both are hurt while burgers come on top. current stock changes are one indication: european and russian stocks are falling, while us stocks are rising
No.531502
>>789316
Search for it in the leftypol_archive.
An anon translated it, here's the text. I don't have the link on me:
Just copy a segment of the sentence and search.
An open letter of appeal by the participants of the rally "Peace to the people of Ukraine!" in the city of Cherkasy to the President of Ukraine V. O. Zelensky and the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine on ending the fratricidal war in eastern Ukraine
We, the participants of the rally "Peace to the People of Ukraine!", held on the day of the 104th anniversary of the creation of the Soviet Army and Navy on the Hill of Glory, appeal to the President of Ukraine V. O. Zelensky and the Verkhovna Rada [parliament] of Ukraine with a demand to take immediate measures to end the fratricidal war in eastern Ukraine.
Further delay in resolving this fateful issue will lead to even greater human losses and to the irreversible loss of a significant portion of Ukrainian territory.
Unfortunately, it seems that the top leadership of the state does not need this territory and the people in it.
Apparently, such a scenario was envisaged back in 2014, when the “Bloody Pastor” Turchynov [Oleksandr Turchynov, Ukrainian politician] sent troops to eastern Ukraine, inventing the so-called anti-terrorist operation, and together with the savage Nazi volunteers launched a fratricidal war on Ukrainian citizens who had the opposite opinion from those who, with the help of the United States and some countries of the European Union, seized power by force in Ukraine.
Probably for the same reason, President Zelensky did not want to sit at the negotiating table with the leadership of the self-proclaimed DPR and LPR and implement the Minsk agreements, even though they were approved by the UN Security Council. This was, as recent events have shown, a great mistake. Still, Volodymyr Oleksandrovych [president of Ukraine] and the People's Deputies of Ukraine should have implemented the Minsk agreements, which had no alternative, because they made it possible to save people and territory.
We have not forgotten that Zelensky promised the people of Ukraine to become president of peace. But he did nothing to ensure peace in Ukraine, thus becoming a demon of war.
After all, peace in eastern Ukraine depended on Zelensky, not only as President but also as Supreme Commander-in-Chief. Only he could give the command to shell the territory and the people behind the demarcation line. If he gave the command to fire, it means he did not realize that it could lead to a hot phase of the war. Or maybe he did, since such a large number of military units and military equipment was deployed to eastern Ukraine, as well as weapons and ammunition imported from the U.S., Great Britain and other NATO countries.
Is it not to repeat the aggression of 2014-2015 under the pressure of Ukrainian Nazis and to draw Russia into this military conflict at the behest of the U.S. and NATO countries?
And did you, the demon of war Zelensky, and you, the grantoids [“грантоїди”, “hrantoidi”, Ukrainian slur for organizations or individuals who exist on foreign grants] and the 5th column of the West in the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, think about the consequences for the people of Ukraine and its territory?
The U.S. and most NATO member states are dreaming of a military conflict between Ukraine and Russia, and of a perpetual quarrel between the Orthodox East Slavic peoples [“східнослов’янські православні народи”], while they themselves, like jackals, tear apart Ukraine in accordance with the EU’s restitution laws.
Isn't that why at the Munich conference on February 20 this year, Zelensky was blessed with applause for the escalation of the conflict in eastern Ukraine and the involvement of Russia in this conflict and the refusal to implement the Minsk agreements?
We saw how it ended on February 21 in the decisions of the Russian leadership on the recognition of the self-proclaimed DPR and LPR. Maybe this will cool the hotheads and force President Zelensky and the People’s Deputies of Ukraine to find a way to a peaceful settlement of the situation in eastern Ukraine, so that peace may reign in our Ukrainian home, so that people have jobs, decent wages and pensions, affordable prices and tariffs, so that Ukraine regains its power and prosperity, as it was in the Soviet socialist period of our history.
This letter of appeal was adopted unanimously.
City of Cherkasy
February 23, 2022
No.531504
>>789246
Putin just showed up to my house and beat me up :'( *this is a fact* *don't ask me for sources just trust me*
No.531506
>>789183
"Man this sucks everyone else is driving tanks and btr's while I'm in this fucking hippe van"
No.531508
>>789333
checked
No.531510
>>789207
lol, thats why a decent nation enlist people in the army and give them uniforms and training before sending them to die
fucking nazis and their volkstrum
>>789244
>slow adaptation of troops on the ground, confused conscripts surrendering, not knowing they're in Ukraine
>Putin is a Tsarist-Bolshevik-Nationalist
>Zelenskyy He's willing to negotiate
10/10 bait, lib redditors prolly eat that shit like candy
No.531512
>>789313
if you paint a capital zee on your vehicle it goes faster
No.531514
>>788966
In what kind of oligarchistic shithole country do you live?
No.531516
>>789317
actual NATO shill
No.531518
>>789282
only the dollars transaction, so basically nothing
No.531520
>>789313
Z stands for Zelensky. These are his escape vehicles. Buhanka and a nano-car for his micro stature.
No.531524
>>789317
It isn't. The ukranian uniform is not of 2014 model.
No.531528
>>789362
ERA protected the tank from an RPG hit.
No.531530
>>789047
<1-4 days
We are just 60 hours in, HOLY COPE.
No.531532
>>789314
so after the war what happens to soldiers who surrendered? will they be imprisoned for betraying their country?
No.531534
>>789349
Seethe more
No.531536
>>789269
Suuuure, US will export gas below it's production price.
No.531538
>>789362
Kontakt-5 ERA works pretty well I guess.
No.531540
>>789309
>>789309
bullshit. The geopolitical reasons and balance of power in the war are clear as day. Now the exact events ? Thats just fog of war filled with propaganda, but it literally doesnt matter.
No.531542
>>789373
what the fuck ? you're insane
No.531544
>>788641
Based Cuba as always in the antifascist struggle
No.531548
>>788606
>>788842
ur an absolute moron russian imperialist
No.531550
>>788888
Quints of truth that everyone needs to see.
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