No.584202[Last 50 Posts]
Quickly developing situation. Might be nothing burger or something burger.
JERUSALEM — (AP) — The Israeli military says that a number of Palestinian militants have infiltrated into Israel from the Gaza Strip. It has ordered residents along the border area to remain indoors.
The announcement came just over an hour after militants in Gaza began firing dozens of rockets into Israel.
Hamas said the leader of its military wing, Mohammed Deif, planned to make an announcement later Saturday.
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/world/israel-says/4QQZ5ZTR4ZIQRE5XCWSAEWRMSA/ No.584203
These wars always happen the same way.
Israel will slaughter over 1000 Gazans and Hamas will keep shooting over rockets that do virtually nothing.
This "war" will be over in 10 days if that.
No.584204
A number of militants from Gaza have entered Israeli territory, the Israel Defense Forces said Saturday, shortly after a barrage of rockets left one person dead and at least three injured.
The IDF has warned Israelis who live near Gaza to stay in their homes.
One person died and at least three were injured when a barrage of rockets was fired from Gaza toward Israel Saturday morning, Israel’s Magen David Adom (MDA) rescue service said.
The rockets, which were witnessed by a CNN producer in Gaza, prompted sirens as far north as the Tel Aviv area, east to Beer Sheva, and many other locations in between.
A woman in her 70s in Kfar Aviv in the Gderot region died following the barrage, the MDA said.
Two other people in the Ashkelon area were lightly injured, the rescue service said, while a fourth person – a man in his 20s in Yavne – was moderately injured by shrapnel.
The rockets were fired at about 6:30 a.m. Saturday morning local time (11:30 p.m. ET), when most Israelis are likely to have been asleep.
Muhammad al-Deif, the general commander of the Al-Qassam Brigades, the armed wing of Hamas, will make a statement soon, the Palestinian militant movement that runs Gaza said Saturday.
It did not say when or what form the statement would take.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/07/middleeast/sirens-israel-rocket-attack-gaza-intl-hnk/index.html No.584205
>>584203This is a little different. From videos on twitter the Palestine guys actually landed inside of Israel and
are roaming around
No.584206
>>584202>>584203>>584204Why does Hamas do this? They know they can't possibly win an armed confrontation. Is it just to provoke a reaction for propaganda purposes?
No.584207
>>584206That's the point. They know these missions are suicide but do them anyway in order to gain mass global sympathy.
Israel is a terror state but let's not pretend Hamas is innocent. They're corrupt as hell.
No.584208
JERUSALEM: The elusive leader of Hamas’ military wing says the armed group has launched a new military operation against Israel.
In a rare public statement, Mohammed Deif said that 5,000 rockets had been fired into Israel early Saturday to begin “Operation Al-Aqsa Storm.” Israel also reported an infiltration from Gaza.
“We’ve decided to say enough is enough,” Deif said as he urged all Palestinians to confront Israel.
Deif, who has survived multiple Israeli assassination attempts, does not make public appearances. His message was delivered in a recording.
https://www.arabnews.com/node/2386836/middle-east No.584209
Defense Minister Yoav Gallant has approved a wide call-up of reservists per the IDF's needs, his office says.
https://x.com/manniefabian/status/1710528130606072237Unverified footage from the Gaza Strip purports to show Hamas terrorists with the body of an IDF soldier taken from Israel during the attack this morning.
No.584210
So does this mean Israel will be toppled now?
No.584211
Reports of terrorists taking over police and MGB vehicles in Sderot
(Orly Alkalai)
BREAKING: Palestinian infiltrators have taken over the police station in Sderot. There are several casualties, shootout ongoing - KANN
https://x.com/kann_news/status/1710529158856540322 No.584215
>>584214Sderot is mostly poor Mizrahim and Ethiopians.
No.584216
I condemn the indiscriminate rocket fire by Hamas terrorists against Israeli civilians. I am in contact with Israeli officials, and fully support Israel's right to defend itself from such terrorist acts.
Chargé d’Affaires ad interim, U.S. Mission to Israel
Https://x.com/USAmbIsrael/status/1710528006685380673
No.584218
Video showing Palestinians controlling the Israeli Army tank hit by Anti Tank missile/ Kornet near Gaza Technical Fence
https://x.com/LocalFocus1/status/1710531190967419372Video showing Al Qassam Elite Forces spread inside Israeli territories in southern Israel
https://x.com/LocalFocus1/status/1710531604462891443 No.584219
Ok Israel is gonna bomb Gaza to rubble now, this was a bad fucking idea
No.584220
>>584219No. The Palestinians will win. They're playing chess while Israel is playing checkers.
No.584221
>>584220>The Palestinians will winlol
No.584222
>>584221They literally crossed the border and took over a town (Sderot).
No.584223
>>584220They won't, as long as the Egyptians and Jordanians are cucks who bow to Israel
No.584224
Documentation: Terrorists on a military jeep that was allegedly taken from the IDF and Al-Qassam men returned to Gaza with it
(Orly Alkalai)
https://x.com/kann_news/status/1710533095902847225The deputy leader of Hamas, Saleh al-Aaruri, in his first response: "The Al-Aqsa flood system is a campaign to destroy the Israeli enemy and it is a response to the crimes of the occupation. The jihad fighters in the Gaza Strip began an extensive operation to protect Al-Aqsa and to free the prisoners."
https://x.com/kaisos1987/status/1710533151255122117 No.584225
>>584223Hamas has Iranian weapons and you know Hezbollah will start firing at Israel from the north.
No.584226
>>584222>>584225Oh I thought you were joking. Dude, you're fucking delusional if you think Hamas can actually win. Even Hamas doesn't think Hamas can win, they're doing this, as another anon said, for sympathy when Israel over-retaliates
No.584227
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/07/hamas-launches-surprise-attack-on-israel-as-palestinian-gunmen-reported-in-south
<Palestinian gunmen have infiltrated areas of southern Israel and rocket barrages were launched from the Gaza Strip on Saturday in a surprise attack claimed by the Islamist movement Hamas.
<Mohammad Deif, a senior Hamas military commander, announced the start of the operation in a broadcast on Hamas media, calling on Palestinians everywhere to fight.
>“This is the day of the greatest battle to end the last occupation on earth,” he said, adding that 5,000 rockets had been launched.
<One Israeli woman was killed, according to emergency services, as ambulance crews were deployed in areas around the Gaza Strip and sirens sounded across Israel, including Jerusalem.
>“A number of terrorists have infiltrated into Israeli territory from the Gaza Strip,” the military said in a statement, adding that residents in the area surrounding the Gaza Strip had been told to stay in their homes.
>“The Israeli defence forces will defend Israeli civilians and the Hamas terrorist organisation will pay heavy price for its actions,” it said.
<It also said it was launching its own strikes on the Gaza Strip.
<Prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office said he would meet top security officials in the coming hours.
<In Gaza the roar of launches could be heard and residents reported armed clashes along the separation fence with Israel, near the southern town of Khan Younis and said they had seen significant movement of armed fighters.
<Israel’s ambulance service said teams had been dispatched to areas in southern Israel near Gaza. No.584229
UPDATE: Video of Al Qassam Elite Forces controlling an ISF military jeep inside Gaza.
https://x.com/LocalFocus1/status/1710533352334172242 No.584230
>>584228>>584229See, that's how you know they can't win. They're acting like taking a jeep is a major military victory lmao
No.584231
>>584226How do you know they can't win?
No.584232
We are under attack, and no one is coming to help us. For more than an hour and a half there has been non-stop shooting. They are slaughtering us here, there is no army.
One of the residents calling Ynet. Israel news outlet
No.584233
>>584231Because they've spent 35 fucking years fighting and have jackshit to show for it
No.584234
>>584233Look at how unstable Israel is right now. A massive Palestinian uprising aided by Hezbollah and Iran could easily take Israel down.
No.584235
>>584234Israelis may fight each other over pointless political shit but when it comes to killing Arabs they are united
No.584236
>>584235Look at how cowardly they're responding to this attack by Hamas. They're scrambling. Hamas clearly has a victory here.
No.584237
The residents of the Otaf are begging for help: "We are being slaughtered here, there is no army and nothing. We have been abandoned"
In localities near the Gaza Strip, residents are confined to their homes and report heavy gunfire. One of them said: "No one came to help us. More than an hour and a half with non-stop shooting." After the witness: "Terrorists go between the houses and try to enter." A driver who encountered terrorists while driving: "There was a squad of 30 people in front of me, they shot at my car. I got out of there miraculously"
https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/byjc5d0lt No.584238
>>584236Ok either you're baiting or you're huffing some serious copium. I mean, don't get me wrong, I wanna see Israel collapse too, but it's not gonna happen. Not like this, at least.
No.584239
>>584231>>584234>>584236Hamas has zero power compared to Israel. Plus they lack any dual power.
No.584240
Israel caught lacking
No.584241
god the reprisals for this are going to be horrific.
No.584242
>>584239Like I said a massive intifada from both Gaza and the West Bank AND Hezbollah will destroy Israel.
No.584243
Some uyghas at the top of idf are going to get the gulags for this
No.584244
>>584238If Israel is attacked on three sides (Gaza, West Bank, Lebanon) they can't win.
No.584245
Hamas terror leader, Ismail Haniyeh celebrating and praying for the current terror operation in Israel. He's highly likely in Qatar
https://x.com/no_itsmyturn/status/1710536766556377107Just saw an image of 2 dead IDF soldiers, bodies were transferred to Khan Younis according to the sources close to Hamas terror organization.
https://x.com/no_itsmyturn/status/1710535950181314792 No.584246
>>584245How many Palestinian casualties are there?
No.584247
From the pictures published by Palestinian media outlets it is clear that at least one border post near #Gaza was overrun by Hamas
https://x.com/michaelh992/status/1710537886347522261 No.584250
Anyone else suspecting Israel will launch a full-scale ground invasion of Gaza?
No.584251
A well known Palestinian news account just posted very graphic photos purporting to be of four dead Israeli soldiers who were allegedly killed inside their military barracks
https://x.com/lookner/status/1710539145758568515 No.584252
Five people were killed by #Hamas rocket attack according to Israeli media
https://x.com/michaelh992/status/1710538719902466095 No.584253
>>584217>>584227Words can not describe how disappointing I am in you YPG anon. I thought you were better than the ziggers, but here you are cheering on the mindless murder of civilians.
No.584254
>>584250Highly, could be some huge backlash
No.584255
>>584253Israel has done way, way worse to Gaza. Not saying killing civilians is justified on either side.
No.584257
Khamenei posted these 2 days ago
The Zionist regime is dying.
No country is willing to accept foreign interference, but they’re forced to. Why? Because they’re alone. If we’re united, the US won’t dare to plunder, show aggression, & interfere in our domestic affairs.
Countries leaders & elites should think about this & their own interests.
Which country won’t be able to plunder & show aggression if Muslim countries are united? The US.
If countries like Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Saudi Arabia,& others adopt a united policy in fundamental issues, aggressive powers won’t be able to interfere in their affairs.
Governments that are gambling on normalizing relations with the Zionist regime will lose. As the Europeans say, “They are betting on a losing horse.”
This is the Islamic Republic's definite position
The usurper regime is coming to an end. Today, the Palestinian youth and the anti-oppression, anti-occupation movement in Palestine is more energetic, more alive, and more prepared than ever during the past 70 or 80 years. God willing, the movement will achieve its goals.
Imam Khomeini once described the usurper Zionist regime as a cancer. This cancer will definitely be eradicated at the hands of the Palestinian people.
https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir No.584259
>>584255yeah it is bad and at the very least just a bad strategy, but israels hands are way, way bloodier, cant be any pretending that its even equivocal. im not going to justify the killing of civilians, but israel doesnt get to indiscriminately murder palestinians and then act like its incomprehensible barbarism when hamas does it. this is the kind of war they started
No.584261
Palestine propaganda accounts with big followings are posting the dead uncensored on their Twitter accounts like 300k follows. They are pretty fucking stupid they are going to get banned
No.584263
Is there anything confirmed about that video of Hamas paragliders jumping the border? If so, that's fucking insane.
No.584264
>>584250Absolutely. If not, they're going to bomb every major building. This was a really fucking stupid thing to do, even by Hamas standards.
No.584265
>>1618172
If anything will tip Israel over the edge, it will be this.
No.584266
>>1618172
I don't see a win scenario there. Even if Israel pisses off the Arab world enough to make them invade, they've still got nukes, the most advanced military in the region, and Uncle Sam backing them.
No.584267
>>584248Horrible but this looks fake.
No.584268
>>584265This. Israel will kamakaze itself due to this.
No.584269
If Israelis don't want to be attacked, they should just move to the USA which is full of philosemitic Evangelical Christians
No.584270
More Hamas terrorists are reportedly infiltrating Israel again with motorized hang gliders.
5 mins ago posted
https://x.com/Global_Mil_Info/status/1710544341867905040 No.584272
>>584270No way Israeli intelligence didn't know this was coming. I'd bet money they deliberately let this happen as pretext for a ground assault on Gaza.
This is gonna be absolutely fucking horrendous.
No.584273
>>584270There's another video of a paraglider coming in under fire. Fucking insane.
No.584274
Here's what's gonna happen
>Israel invades Gaza, massacres fighters, assassinates as many Hamas leaders as they can
>Systematically expels majority of Palestinians from the strip
>De facto annexes the whole area and lets Israeli settlers pour in
anyone who thinks there's any other outcome is on weapons-grade copium
No.584275
>>584270Palestine will win.
No.584276
>>584272This was my first thought. Unless the IDF/Mossad are actually that incompetent. How did they not anticipate this massive build up? Dozens (if not hundreds) of infiltrators? Where's all the US money going if they let this kind of thing slip through the cracks.
No.584277
>>584274Israel left Gaza in 2005 because it was a failed settlement.
No.584278
Gazan women holding a captured M16 which is allegedly captured from an IDF soldier
#Gaza
https://x.com/no_itsmyturn/status/1710543347369087308 No.584279
Hamas should really thank Biden for the $6B that was released to Iran
No.584280
>>584237Doesn't the IDF regularly patrol those areas? wtf is going on?
No.584281
>>584277The situation has definitely changed since then. They don't wanna fucking deal with Hamas anymore and they're willing to bite the bullet and take a PR hit to get rid of them.
No.584282
/r/Israel is in full meltdown mode as usual. I wonder when they'll private the sub like they did last time.
No.584285
>Iranian president says Tehran will spend the $6 billion released in prisoner exchange ‘wherever we need it’https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/iranian-president-says-tehran-will-spend-6-billion-released-prisoner-e-rcna104475
>U.S. officials say Qatar’s central bank will oversee the funds and Iran will be permitted to use the money only for humanitarian purposes in accordance with U.S. sanctions.QATAR lol. The place hamas leadership is celebrating now
Biden doing his best to destroy amerikkka
No.584286
>>5842531. Not Cheering.
2. I'm covering what's going on
Killing civillians sucks, and Hamas is corrupt but I have no sympathy for Israel.
No.584287
Pictured Palestinian militants entering Israel through breach in the Gaza fence
More than 80 wounded brought to the Soroka Medical Center in Beersheba as a result of the Hamas attacks on Israel, the hospital says. Several in serious condition.
https://x.com/michaelh992/status/1710549782907752740https://x.com/manniefabian/status/1710548551162302914 No.584289
>>584288This will be the end of Israel.
No.584292
>>584288When's the last time Israel declared a war and how did it go?
No.584293
The burgers have been looting ammunition from everywhere they can for their ukraine conflict.
No.584294
Israeli Minister of Defense Yoav Gallant following an operational situation assessment held this morning: The Hamas [terrorist organization] has made a grave mistake this morning and launched a war against the State of Israel. IDF troops are fighting against the enemy at every location. I call on all of Israel’s citizens to follow security instructions. The State of Israel will win this war.
https://x.com/JoeTruzman/status/1710552681952227816 No.584295
>>584291Israel will lose this one.
No.584298
>>584292Did they declare war in '06 or '08? This might be the first time since '73.
No.584300
oh no, those poor zionist settlers :(
No.584302
>>1618224
>>1618227
They're competing at how much they can diss something
No.584303
>>1618227
tfw Zionists in MEMRI accidentally make Palestinians look more based
No.584304
>>1618224
>>1618227
It goes hard though.
No.584305
>>584298I've seen it from more credible and measured sources as a declaration of "readiness for war" rather than a declaration of war
Now suppose that the uprising does dent the occupation–how is everyone now forgetting that Israel also has nuclear weapons? I seem to remember some doctrine they adopted where they would lob nukes at everything in range, Euro capitals etc, if an actual existential threat presented itself
No.584306
The leader of Hamas, Ismail Haniyeh, in his first comment: "We are waging a battle of resistance and respect for the defense of al-Aqsa, under the title - 'Storm of al-Aqsa'. The storm began in Gaza and will continue in the West Bank and beyond, and wherever our people are."
https://x.com/kann_news/status/1710553893271154858 No.584307
>>584305The Samson Option?
No.584308
>>584306lmfao they think gonna invade run right up to jerusalem?????
No.584309
>>584301Leader of Palestine was received with full honours by communist China.
>>584225Talking of which, the burgers seized ammunition from a ship destined for Yemen,
and also most of Israel's artillery stock. No.584310
>>584308They can and will.
No.584311
>>584280Israel was in the middle of negotiating normalizing relations with Saudi Arabia, too.
No.584312
>>1618214
Hamas restored relations with Assad in 2022 though
No.584314
>>584307Yes, that is exactly the one I was thinking of, thanks anon
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option No.584315
>>584309No fucking way you're saying that the dog Abbas being received with honors is proof of China's anti-Zionsim.
That's like placing Philippe Pétain as the leader of French liberation.
Fucking Ztards.
No.584316
>>584309China is Israel's third largest trading partner.
No.584318
>>584316China is first for most countries.
>>584315He was treated as a head of state, suck it up kids the line is Palestine is a state.
No.584319
Saying that they freed a prison. Is there an actual source for this?
https://twitter.com/intelFromBrian/status/1710542217503195356#m No.584320
>>584252Seems significant. Is anyone getting a cytube goin?
No.584321
>>584305I have no idea what's actually going on, but Yoav Gallant (defense minister) is calling it a war. I'm not sure if that means the Israeli state has officially declared a war.
No.584322
The IDF has announced: Operation "Iron Swords" is underway. Fighting is currently taking place in a number of localities in the area surrounding Gaza. Preparations are being made for an escalation on the northern front and in the Gaza Strip.
@ItayBlumental
https://x.com/kann_news/status/1710557914635624936The IDF added - as part of the operation, a ground entry is also possible. Reserve mobilization of tens of thousands is expected
@ItayBlumental
https://x.com/kann_news/status/1710558377208697005WARRRRRR
No.584323
>>584313Sauce for first claim
h/ttps://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/over-one-million-rounds-ammunition-seized-en-route-iran-yemen-transferred-ukrainian-armed
URL mutilated for hygiene purposes, remove the / after the first h to load.
Sauce for second claim incoming in a bit.
No.584324
Statement from Ismail Haniya, head of Hamas' political bureau:
>The enemy besieging Gaza has planned to surprise it and escalate the aggression against our people in the Gaza Strip, in addition to the settlement and aggression that continues every moment in the West Bank, which seeks to uproot our people and expel them from their land, and the crimes of the occupation against our people in the 1948s, as it stands behind all the killing and assassination operations there, and the occupation’s continuation of detaining our prisoners for decades, and reneging on agreements when he re-arrested those liberated from the swap deal.
>For all of this, we are waging a battle of honour, resistance and dignity to defend Al-Aqsa, under the title that was announced by Brother Commander-in-Chief Abu Khaled Al-Deif, “Al-Aqsa Flood”. This flood began in Gaza and will extend to the West Bank and abroad, and every place where our people and nation are present.
No.584326
>>584322>a ground entry is also possible. Reserve mobilization of tens of thousands is expectedCalled it.
No.584327
>>584322Fuck, here we go. Hope it's worth it, hamas, you dumb cunts
No.584329
>>584322Ah, that explains why it felt so premediated by Israel - it's because it was.
No.584330
>>584326>>584329Isreal's wanted do this since 2006. It's going to be a massacre on an unprecedented scale.
No.584331
>>584330They won't succeed. There are Hamas members who are heading to Jerusalem right now.
No.584333
>>584325>the reddit cutTouch grass
No.584334
How many Palestinian deaths?
How many Israeli deaths?
I've seen the photos from Sderot and they're horrific. Gaza must be worse.
No.584335
>>584330And what the fuck were they waiting for? Massacring civilians too hard?
No.584336
>>584328> permission to use some of the supplies in emergency situationsYou're not suggesting Israel doesn't have stockpiles and production of their, right?
No.584337
>>584335They needed some kind of cover. The atrocity propaganda is perfect.
No.584338
ROCKETS ARE NOW HITTING JERUSALEM
No.584339
According to Al-Jazeera, air strikes have begun in Gaza. Apparently they already hit the Indonesian Hospital.
No.584340
>>584337They could've held the cage open while whistling innocently at any point in the last decade.
No.584342
The head of the Shaar HaNegev Regional Council, Ofir Liebstein, was killed in the exchange of fire with the terrorists who infiltrated from Gaza
https://x.com/kann_news/status/1710560605596262828 No.584343
>>584341attention whoring retard
No.584344
>>584340I'm not sure what the exact reasoning for the timing is, maybe the anniversary of the Yom Kippur War, but it's clear some factions within Israel wanted this to happen.
>>584341Maybe he can send Hamas some subs.
No.584345
>>584344It's the 50th anniversary of that war
No.584346
>>584341Musk should arrange a deal where he can stand between the two sides and let them fire all their weapons at him in exchange for peace.
No.584347
"The military arm of Hamas, the Al-Qassam Brigades, announced: 'Our forces managed to capture more than 35 Israeli soldiers and civilians from the [Israeli] settlement of Sderot, and they were transferred to the Gaza Strip'"
(from Ynet news)
https://x.com/lookner/status/1710559917420032416 No.584348
>>584345If "magically significant number" is the actual reason for this, I will make sure every church and temple gets burned to the fucking ground. I hate idealists so fucking much.
No.584349
We’ve seen many injured civilians. People are using their personal cars to bring the wounded to waiting ambulances. Soldiers and police on high alert about Palestinian infiltrators. Heard small arms fire in the distance.
News reporter in Israel
https://x.com/TreyYingst/status/1710561819985862755 No.584350
The Israeli evacuation from the areas around Gaza does not appear orderly
https://twitter.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1710556140231369201 No.584351
IDF says dozens of fighter jets carrying out strikes on Hamas sites in Gaza
https://x.com/manniefabian/status/1710562379572838661 No.584353
>>584344>>584345It's Simchat Torah in Israel.
No.584354
habbening?
No.584356
>>1618306
The struggle will never end until victory is achieved
No.584357
>>1618306>>584356Israel has handled this in such a messy manner they may lose this one.
No.584359
>>1618309
The Israeli's seem to be the ones dying, from all sources
No.584360
>>1618311
Look at how sloppily Israel responded to Hamas crossing the border. The Palestinians can win if they're strategic, which they're proving to be.
No.584361
>>1618317
You haven't seen the carnage coming out of Sderot? Israelis were gunned down in their bomb shelters.
No.584362
A Gazan reporter enters Israeli territory with the armed men and reports from one of the surrounding settlements
This is going to end well. Hope for his safety
https://x.com/kann_news/status/1710567124823945489 No.584364
>>584348>>584345>>584353>>584344Ackshually it's because today is Vladolf Putler's birthday
No.584365
More than 140 wounded brought to the Soroka Hospital in Beersheba as a result of the Hamas attack on Israel. The medical center says around 20 of them are in serious condition.
https://x.com/manniefabian/status/1710569456101896521 No.584366
Israel just bombed the Palestinian Interior Ministry
https://t.me/PalestineResist/13289 No.584367
>>584362Jesus fucking Christ
No.584368
I've identified six Palestinian armed groups that have either participated in the infiltration of southern Israel or have fired rockets during the initial stage of the conflict. I expect this number to climb as more statements are published by the groups.
https://x.com/JoeTruzman/status/1710569538243514646 No.584369
Question: am I the only one who thinks this war is going to be a PR disaster for Hamas (and Palestine in general)?
No.584371
Why was mossad so bamboozed?
Am I in the wrong for being incredibly suspicious?
No.584372
>>584369Sure, among libs who never supported Palestine in earnest but only did so to feel better about themselves
No.584373
>>584369I think that any left person who screams free Palestine during this invasion on social media or glorifies the deaths with smug apathy will scare off people who are already very critical of far right Israel government and they just sit on sidelines. It will activate their emotions to say wow okay Israel is now the victim and look past their shitty actions. I think if people on left kind of both sides this one it would be best. Will look blood thirsty if take it too far
I could be wrong though it is only day 1 we will see
No.584374
>>584370The attacks came out of nowhere. Israeli civilians were killed at a higher rate than usual. It's one thing to kill IDF it's a whole other thing to kill grandma.
Plus Arab countries don't seem to care about Palestine anymore. Palestine has no allies other than Iran and Algeria IIRC. No one is going to be on their side with this.
No.584375
>>584369Oh fuck off, people like you will only ever accept a victim existing if they're perfect and never defend themselves. Perfect victims don't exist, and it is right to struggle against fascism even if American liberals don't like it.
No.584376
>>584375The Palestinians have zero real support outside of Iran. I don't see any leftists on Twitter cheering on the acts of Hamas like they would normally do.
No.584377
>>584369No and I want the israeli intelligence people to fuck off from this site, where's that article about them posting on "harmful sites"
No.584378
An official quoted by Israeli media says Hamas took over several buildings in Kibbutz Be'eri, multiple casualties and hostages reported. Israel
https://x.com/michaelh992/status/1710572039931650175?s=20 No.584379
>>584377I don't support Israel idiot. I'm saying the world is going to look at this and see Hamas as being in the wrong.
No.584381
Serious question
Are there really civilians in Israel since they all have like 2 years of military training?
No.584382
>>584380Who are Palestine's allies apart from Iran?
No.584383
>>584374Shut the fuck up, moralcuck. That grandma was ruling class. The struggle will never die, not until the oppressors are fucking exterminated
No.584384
Nearly 300 wounded at various hospitals as a result of the Hamas attacks on Israel this morning, medical officials say.
https://x.com/manniefabian/status/1710572837692407891 No.584385
>>584382Like state allies? Probably no one. They do have non-state allies like Hezbollah (who so far have sat this one out).
No.584387
>>584381In 2005, 77% of Jewish men served in the IDF, a figure that dropped to 69% in 2019. The percentage of women serving in 2005 was 59%, dropping to 56% in 2019.
https://m.jpost.com/opinion/article-696722 No.584388
>>1618340Yes
>>584379Gtfo back to twitter uygga, not the ones who actually have the power to change things.
No.584390
>>584386“Occupied Palestine” 🤓
No.584393
Channel 12 reporter: “Hamas now controls several population centers in southern Israel. I can’t believe I’m saying this. The residents are begging for help.”
https://x.com/EylonALevy/status/1710571167348637701 No.584395
TV anchors interviewing woman sheltering at home as her husband physically fights to defend home from terrorists who invaded her kibbutz.
https://x.com/EylonALevy/status/1710575540724277671 No.584396
>>584393Palestine will win.
No.584397
>>584382The sad reality is that the commitment of states to causes of liberation tends to vanish when it confronts the calculus of nuclear war
No.584398
Prime Minister Netanyahu's statement: "We are at war, not an operation. Hamas has launched a murderous surprise attack against the State of Israel and its citizens. I ordered first of all to cleanse the settlements of the terrorists who had infiltrated and ordered a large-scale mobilization of reserves. The enemy will pay a price he has never known."
https://x.com/kann_news/status/1710574340465455580 No.584399
>>584393This is the start of decolonization.
No.584401
>>584382Wouldn't you like to know, agent smith
No.584404
Why is everyone treating this like it's real.
Does no one find it SUPER suspicious that just when Israel was at the peak of internal division that suddenly the IDF starts sleeping on the job and a massive assault happens which will inevitably get people to rally around the state again?
I GUARANTEE that the IDF saw this coming and decided to let it happen so that the protests stop and everyone is temporarily united against Hamas.
No.584405
>>584404Doesn't matter. Palestinian fighters have taken over several Israeli towns and are now taking over the Ashkelon prison. This is HUGE and the start of a mass-scale decolonization.
No.584406
>>584404Seems sus. Usually they shoot kids who get within 100m of fences, now they're able to cut holes and orderly march in..
Oh and look and that, Israel is now in a "state of war". I expect massive pogroms and purging of the population in response.
No.584408
>>584406<hamas attacks strategically NOOOOO!!!! THIS IS ALL ISREAL'S STRATEGY 😱
No.584409
Maybe some Israeli is reading this thread and wonders:
What will happen next? What shall I do now? 🤔🤔🤔
Simple.
Put popcorn in microwave.
Say this: I testify
“La ilaha illa Allah, Muhammad rasoolu Allah.”>These Arabic words mean, “There is no true god (deity) but God (Allah), and Muhammad is the Messenger (Prophet) of God.” Once a person says the Testimony of Faith (Shahada) with conviction and understanding its meaning, then he/she has become a Muslim.Source:
https://www.islamreligion.com/articles/204/how-to-convert-to-islam-and-become-muslim/Take popcorn out of microwave. Enjoy!
No.584410
>>584362A Palestinian reporter rolling in with kibbutz raiders has got to be the ballsiest reporter on the planet. Holy shit.
>>1618350There was a coup plot in Jordan in 2021 that was rumored to have Israeli and Saudi ties. Probably looking to oust the Hashemite monarchy for a place to dump ethnically cleansed Palestinians and then call that a "two-state solution."
>>584369Maybe but I think that ship has sailed and they don't care. It's a radicalized mindset. The attack was brutal. Bibi is saying Israel is at war.
No.584412
>>1618340
>Israel isn’t fascist and violently killing their citizens is not what you should do,
It's what will likely happen as revenge for decades of oppression in the world's largest open-air prison. Similar to raping, pillaging and burning of Nazi Germany (followed by mass ethnic cleansing) by the Red Army as revenge for the genocide inflicted upon the Soviet Union.
You cannot fuck people over for decades and then expect them to turn the other cheek. It doesn't matter if this is some PR stunt that will get Palestine ostracized or whatever, the various fighting groups got through the period of 2000s when the Global War on Terror was at its height, they'll get through this as well.
No.584413
Am told IDF Apache gunships are operating near the Gaza border at this moment.
https://x.com/JoeTruzman/status/1710582003136151562 No.584414
>>1618334
>muh ancestral lands.
You're a bunch of Europeans lmao
No.584415
>>584301under Bennet - sure. Netyandao - no fucking way.
No.584416
>>1618393>The Nazis committed genocide on Soviets? News to me.see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost No.584418
Anti semitism among far right and even normie right has grown astronomically in past 2 years or so. On top of the absolute hatred for groups like the adl
I think there will be a level of push back from right in the fight for Israel rhetoric that didn't exist 10 years ago now. Of course every right wing politicians is going to support Israel but the citizens I believe will be really divided on it now.
No.584420
>>584373Dude it's now or never. Either HAMAS conquers Israel or all Arabs will be ethnically cleansed from Palestine. If Israel prevails then they will probably finish off the remaining Arab population of Palestine once and for all. My hope is that early victories by HAMAS will lead to a greater revolt by Arab citizens of Israel and West Bank.
No.584421
>>584379Kill yourself, liberal. Decolonization is always violent and the colonized need not care about dumbass first world "leftists" when resisting the terrorism inflicted upon them on a daily basis.
No.584422
When I go thru my twitter feed the vast majority of pro Israel post I find are by indians lmao
No.584425
Is it true that the Israelis have been completely caught off guard and did not see this coming?
No.584426
>>584425No. This is Israel's plan
No.584427
>>584425probably not. its probably mossad and IDF letting it happen to punish israeli liberals for protesting the further concentration of power into the executives, and in the meantime reunifying israelis and manufacturing consent for further military dominance
No.584429
>>584233whenever they shoot the rockets it drains the israeli economy millions
No.584431
>>584419Absolutely based. How long were they planning this shit?
No.584432
Female Israeli civilian captured by militants. She is shoved into jeep by many men while resist. They whistle and shout allahu Akbar while they get her inside.
https://twitter.com/JoeTruzman/status/1710591662760849504Crazy stuff
No.584433
1618420
Adultery is haram
No.584434
>>584390That's what it is, Israel is a false state, Palestine is occupied by settler-colonists backed by the world's imperialists.
Occupied Palestine.
No.584437
>>584436kek, did she shit herself?
No.584438
There is no such thing as “innocent Israeli civilians”
They are all enemy combatants, liars and thieves.
Look at this post and tell me this isn’t an irreconcilable war of absolute enmity.
https://x.com/BryanLeibFL/status/1710586471399207251?s=20 No.584439
>>584436LMAO she shat her pants. Owned
No.584440
>>584436She may be a member of the IOF but let me just say I do not envy her situation right now.
No.584443
>>584441Enemy combatant, she deserves death.
No.584444
>>584443didnt say otherwise i just said it was blood relax
No.584445
>>584442
I hope your family in Israel gets shot by Hamas
No.584448
>>584447Even more blessed
No.584449
>>584441Whoever raped her deserves to be punished.
She still deserves death, though.
No.584450
What's KKE's position on this?
No.584451
>>584449yeah because that person has a scat fetish, very bad
No.584453
>>584449agreed on both counts, though it is probable that the blood on her pants is just from sitting on her bloody hands & arms
No.584454
Reactionary Arabs are crying that this is disrupting the normalization process between Saudi Arabia and Israel.
https://x.com/amjadt25/status/1710570651256230074?s=20 No.584459
>>584424Is that the same merkava as the earlier vid?
No.584463
>>584462pretty basic gore of people being shot laying down in a building
No.584466
>>584460This is bad and fucking epic as well. lol
No.584467
>>584466how is it bad? she seems completely safe
No.584468
>>584467She is a holocaust survivor…
No.584469
>>1618476
go back to reddit please. may as well call us anti-white racists while youre at it since we also cheer on expelling imperialists from african nations
No.584470
>>1618476
go back to reddit, european coloniser
No.584471
>>584468how do you know and so what, she is living in an occupied territory that has been retaken by the occupied force and it seems like theyre treating her well, as they should with an elderly non-combatant. fail to see the problem
No.584472
>>1618476
fuck off cunt
No.584473
>>1618476
If it was the 1940s, you'd be coming into anti-nazi threads calling the posters anti-german racists
No.584474
>>1618482
no, but it is reddit to concern troll and equivocate an offensive against israelis in a perpetual war of occupation that israel maintains with nazi antisemitism. assuming an occupied people are fighting back due to some essential racial resentment is more like /pol/ than anything
No.584476
>>1618488
>No way you just compared Jews to Nazis 💀
you need to go back
No.584477
>>1618488
Zionists are just fascists with a jewish coat of paint
No.584478
Am i the only one that feel like israel will go full genocide on Gaza and the remaining arab populations after this?
No.584480
>>1618492
gotta be bait
No.584481
>>584478they will, it will be very very ugly
No.584482
>>584478Depends on how this plays out. The fact that Hamas could even pull this off shows that the myth about STRONKEST ARMY IN MIDDLE EAST was just that, a myth.
No.584483
>>1618488
nope, I'm comparing the connection between anti-semisweet and anti-Zionism to the link between anti-Nazism and anti-German sentiment.
At the end of the day, anti-naziism was anti-german
the same way anti-zionism (or anti-communism) are anti-semitic
No.584484
Just mindless butchery with no real goal, and Israel is going to retaliate with even worse in the Gaza strip. Awful nothingburger.
No.584485
>>584477>Zionists are just fascists with a jewish coat of paintThis implies that jews are inherently leftist which is bullshit. In fact the opposite is true.
No.584487
>>584484>with no real goalKill as many jews as fast as possible?
No.584488
>>584483>At the end of the day, anti-naziism was anti-germanConsidering there were plenty of anti-nazi germans
until most of them were killed and repressed by said nazis this doesn't exactly add up.
No.584490
>>584441anon, it's brown and her entire ass is caked with it wtf are you smoking?
No.584491
>>584490Blood tends to dry that shade of brown, especially on certain colors of clothing.
No.584492
>>584490Clearly lead paint chips are their drug of choice.
No.584493
Maybe its mud?
No.584494
>>1618488
still a coloniser, mate
No.584495
>>584488A lot of the Germans still supported Hitler, combine that with how easy it is to see an out group as a uniform blob, wouldn't it make sense that among non-Germans, anti-Nazism was a lot of the time associated with at least some anti-German sentiment.
Or is my logic flawed?
No.584496
>>584491yeah but her entire ass is covered with it? what did they do? shoot her in the ass?
No.584497
>>584490idk why you want it to be shit so bad. blood dries brown and the way its spread looks much more like she was sitting on her bleeding hands & arms in the back of that car. maybe it is shit but looks a lot more like blood to me
No.584499
So what's the point?
Israelis get shot and bombed.
Palestinians will get shot and bombed.
Rinse and repeat.
No.584501
I agree with
>>584493 it could also be from mud from keeping her on the ground or something. But it definitely isn't blood. Also blood takes days to dry brown from what you're describing.
No.584502
>>584499Havent been to leftypol in years. Have I by mistake arrived at libpol or something?
No.584503
>>584497it takes hours to days for blood to dry brown
No.584504
>>584501Why the actual fuck is this what the people in this thread decided to start arguing about
No.584505
>>584499>>584502Like are you in a Tel aviv office building doing your military service on the internet or something?
No.584506
>>584282r/Israel is currently private
No.584507
>>584504Argue about this instead then
>>584499 No.584508
>invasion
zionist thread
No.584510
>>584505>>584502I'm serious. This war is unlikely to lead to lasting change that improves the situation for either side.
No.584513
>>1618482
>No such thing as “anti-white racism”
exactly, so don't cry about it when we post dead israeli crackers
No.584514
Man I just woke up 5 seconds ago
No.584516
How far would Hamas have to advance into Israel before America directly intervenes or would they just get Samson'd before that happens?
No.584518
>>584516America wont intervene directly, not right now, you are insane.
>>584517Obviously this thread is going to attract a lot of tourists and people who come to explicitly derail, if you keep reply to their posts instead of using report funtion you play in to their hands anon.
No.584520
>>584253>I thought you were better than the ziggers,no one is better than ziggas. the sooner you realize and accept this the sooner you'll have inner peace.
No.584521
Once this is over Israel is going at commit one of the worst human massacres ever to be seen in modern times
No.584522
>>584521Pretty sure that is part of the arethmatic anon, the play from Hamas must be to try to set in motion something that either anyone in the region who is against Israel must join in on or be destroyed, as even outside the political hit they willt take for not they must know they will firmly be in the firing line of futre collective reprisals enacted by israel.
No.584525
>>584518oh no bro dont you know you have to reply to bait bro look at this "dont make me touch the sign" meme bro
No.584527
>>584526Zionists getting leg status'd?!!>!!>!???
No.584528
Call me suspicious. How did Mossad not see this shit coming? This is a massive operation
No.584529
>>584526>tiny fucking star-of-david on top"THOSE SUBHUMANS BOMBED AN AMBULANCE"
No.584530
>>584528Why is it so hard to accept that Pissraeli glowies are not as competent as people think they are?
No.584531
At least 7 Nepali injured, 17 held captive by Hamas in Israel: Nepal’s Ambassador to Israel to ANI.
https://x.com/ANI/status/1710620655962718421 No.584532
>>584524Honestly, we'll have to see.
If palestenian fighters actually start claiming territory and occupying it/ forming a government to adminstrate it, this may be it, but lets not get ahead of ourselves.
Destruction of the settler colonialist project means nothing if there isn't something there to replace it.
No.584534
>>584530Because they've been consistently top tier for decades?
Hamas must have identified every rat in their org and fed Zionist intel a lot of bullshit to make them miss this.
No.584535
>>584534>Hamas must have identified every rat in their org and fed Zionist intel a lot of bullshit to make them miss this.Which means that the zionists are incompetent as fuck. lol
No.584536
>>584528>How did Mossad not see this shit coming?they were too busy making "multipolarity will help israel genocide palestine" and "holodomor denial = holocaust denial" threads on leftypol
No.584538
>>584534They've been very visible, which is a good way for people to think they have a reputation. In practice, spies being visible is obviously just dumb, and will lead to shit like this happening.
Now, Beijing's spies, you haven't really heard of them. Who even knows what their agency is named? Does it have a name?
No.584539
>>584524Yea. i'm calling it the Third Intifada prematurely. If this does not set it off nothing ever will and the occupied territories are doomed.
>>584528The Guardian is already calling it The Intelligence Fail of the ages or Israel, more or less.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/07/hamas-stealth-attack-will-be-remembered-as-israeli-intelligence-failure-for-the-ages>>584530>>584535Come on anon(s), it is still a very big thing to miss. all the groups who would have forming around the entry points and all the communications that would have been going on, etc. It's to early to say obviously but part of me see this more as a opsec win on the account of Hamas than only a massive fail on part of Isn'treal.
>>584525>oh no bro dont you know you have to reply to bait bro look at this "dont make me touch the sign" meme broKek. i hate that other users could be so dumb as to point to that silly meme as any kind of serious argument.
No.584541
>>584535The point was that level of incompetence is a departure from norms. The Zionist entity has the level of cyber and physical surveillance over the Gaza strip that liboids fantasise about China having. They've also, again for decades, been very successful in creating rats through blackmail and bribery.
>Now, Beijing's spies, you haven't really heard of them. Who even knows what their agency is named? Does it have a name?Has this thread bought out all the retards? It's called the Ministry of State Security.
No.584542
>>584538>Now, Beijing's spies, you haven't really heard of themAn important rule for life anon is to never extrapolate personal ignorance onto others.
No.584544
>the industrial proletariat of palestine begins their revolutionary struggle against the settler-colonial apartheid israeli state
<CHINA CHINA CHINA CHINA CHINA
Seriously?
No.584545
>>584536>gets butthurt in other threads>come to the one happening thread to shit in itstfu loser, can we just enjoy the chaos?
>>584543big if true
No.584546
>>584530>Decades of Israeli occuption >Decades of dealing with Israeli counter intelligence>Decades of fighting said Israeli occupation >Ever expanding application of counter intelligence technologies which are now avaialable to the massesAre you honestly surprised?
Think of it this way:
<Call me suspicious. How did M16 not see this shit coming? This is a massive operation that has been going on in Ireland.<Call me suspicious. How did the CIA not see this coming? This is a massive operation that has been going on in Cuba. <Call me suspicious. How did Erdogan not see this coming? This is a massive operation that has been going on in North-Eastern Syria that borders Turkey It may be anon, but secret intelligence people don't always live up to having any "intelligence"
No.584547
>>584452>>584432They are taking prisoners to make deals for prisoners
No.584548
>>584537Kek, they're literally looting everything that's not bolted to the ground. The guy holding the camera is saying: "Take the bathroom siphon and the boiler, the boiler in my house is broken".
No.584549
This feels too weird. Mossad is "Minority Report"-tier of technology, how the fuck did they miss this?
It's obviously a kamikaze attack, all of them know they'll die at some point. Hopefully they don't start ravaging innocent people, that's all. Gaza already was sent back to the bronze age, now they'll just disappear.
No.584550
>>584543Damn, Abo Mazen still has a spine. Based.
No.584551
>>584545>>gets butthurt in other threads>other threadsi mean it's literally
IN THIS THREAD here: >>1618476
you can complain about people posting picrel if you want but it's not like people posting this zionist garbage ITT and on the catalog get banned really so at this point you're just complaining about people replying to normal posts
TLDR you're a bitch>>1618599push all israelis to the sea
No.584552
>>584547Or as human shields (who deserve to be used as such)
No.584555
>>1618599
Question: Was it antiwhite for South African Blacks or Native Americans to fight against settler colonialists with every means they got?
No.584556
>>1618599
I am sorry at this point israel officially a bolsonaro tier state,they are not any more secular than our palestinian comrades , there is literally nothing good about them
No.584557
>>584546Neither MI6 or the CIA ever had the kind of operations going that Zionist military and civilian intel agencies do against Gaza.
They must have seen signs and either discounted them or it is actual deep state glowie shit.
No.584558
No way Mossad didn't know about this uprising. This is going to be a pretext for a large scale invasion of Gaza with massive casualties. The best we can hope for is no genocide.
No.584559
Israeli bros, its over…
No.584561
>>584558The best we can hope is total Israel death.
No.584562
>>584559You might even say it's Ofir, Libstein.
No.584563
Ziggas be like: nooooo only Russia is allowed to launch speshul military operations! This was a grave mistake unlike the highly successful SMO!
No.584564
So does this discredit the Israeli right wing who insisted they were the only ones who could defend the country or does it give them a blank check to carry out the annexation they've been foaming at the mouth for?
No.584565
>>584253Israelis are not civilians, they are subhumans
No.584566
>>1618476
>we just don’t want them to have their own country
We want to abolish the nation-state in the long term you fucking idiot because it's a fucking cancerous institution that leads to exploitation and war
No, we don't think any particular identity group deserves a state because we think states fucking suck and establishing one on identitarian lines regarless of the identity group involved inevitably leads to mass murder and atrocities like this
this isn't anti-semitism it's being consistent in your institutional views, fuck nazis and fuck the israeli government equally, because fuck fascists in general
No.584567
>>584214Israeli-palestine conflict is literally a neighborhood that hates the neighborhood next door.
No.584569
>>584286Israel is a state, not individual people tho
No.584571
Last I heard, 40 israelis have been killed, is it true?
No.584573
>>584561Not gonna happen. This is going to be a fucking disaster for the Palestinians. Bibi is a bloodthirsty motherfucker.
No.584574
>>584567Blame the Romans. Crackers been turning brown brothers on each other for millenia…
No.584575
>>584560Gaza is fucking tiny. The "Global War on Terror" involved CIA operations in several massive countries and they could never achieve something like the density of surveillance drones the Zionist entity has watching Gaza 24/7. The Gaza border by air, land, and sea, is controlled by the IDF.
No.584577
>>584288Well, Palestine was bad while it lasted.
No.584578
>>584571>is it true?We have no more way of knowing that than the newspaper you just read it from, anon.
>>584573We must see what happens over the coming days anon you cant know this. but if hamas are left without help, yea probaby.
No.584579
>>584569Of course, the israeli citizens that colonize and genocide palestinians are just victims too!!! unity between the rapist and their victims!
No.584580
>>584564In a decent world it should, but Israelis are stupid and prone to warmongering.
No.584581
>Another war in which "leftists" will pick a side between religious extremists/reactionaries fighting each other(why do regular users insist derailing like this is a good idea)
No.584582
>>584569>killing civillians is bad>that being said I have no sympathy for IsraelDid I stutter?
No.584583
>>584581This is why communism never won in the first world. Firsties are so racist they will ignore the people they oppress
No.584584
Inter-imperialist conflict
No.584586
>>584578Hamas will probably be left without help unless Israel does something really stupid like flattening Al-Asqa. It's not like the greater Islamic world really cares about the Palestinians.
No.584588
>>584582Colonizers arent civilians. Boers should be tied to stones and dropped to the bottom of the sea, Israelis should too. End of discussion
No.584589
>>584558This. Israel just started their op, they "spontaneously" call it "Iron Sword".
Hamas was founded by the Mossad as a counterweight to the Palestinian communists and the PLO btw.
https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/ No.584590
>>584581https://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1938/09/liberation.htm<I will take the most simple and obvious example. In Brazil there now reigns a semifascist regime that every revolutionary can only view with hatred. Let us assume, however, that on the morrow England enters into a military conflict with Brazil. I ask you on whose side of the conflict will the working class be? I will answer for myself personally—in this case I will be on the side of “fascist” Brazil against “democratic” Great Britain. Why? Because in the conflict between them it will not be a question of democracy or fascism. If England should be victorious, she will put another fascist in Rio de Janeiro and will place double chains on Brazil. If Brazil on the contrary should be victorious, it will give a mighty impulse to national and democratic consciousness of the country and will lead to the overthrow of the Vargas dictatorship. The defeat of England will at the same time deliver a blow to British imperialism and will give an impulse to the revolutionary movement of the British proletariat. Truly, one must have an empty head to reduce world antagonisms and military conflicts to the struggle between fascism and democracy. Under all masks one must know how to distinguish exploiters, slave-owners, and robbers!based ice pick man
No.584591
>>584587Hamas is as bad as Israel
No.584592
>>584581PFLP (Palestinian communist party) are allied with Hamas against Israel
No.584593
>>584206They only want revenge at this point. This slow genocide of Palestinians have made them desperate for any action.
No.584594
>>584592Shadow of the PLO
No.584595
>>584589Yup. This is absolutely premediated. Fuck Bibi and his merry band of psychopaths.
No.584596
>>584591In which case you should support giving them seventy years domination of the country to balance things out.
No.584597
>>584206Palestinian emirate
No.584598
>>584583half the people cheering for palestine in this thread are firsties you goon
No.584599
>>584598And the firsties in this thread are like one percent of their country
No.584600
>>584581I don't like ziggas but the history of both modern communism and even anarchism has always been clear about the Palestinians struggle, whether it is led by the PLO or Hamas or inshallah the PFLP. We understand Israel as an obvious extension of Western domination and imperialism.
No.584601
This isn't Palestinian actions, they are Hamas. Why are there communist here who think Hamas represents all of Palestine?
No.584602
>>584592PFLP is a rather irrelevant party.
No.584603
>>584598Not true, I'm an actual Arab.
No.584606
>>584564In the long term this is a definite loss for the Israeli right wing. Even if Israel wins military, this episode will have dire consequences for the future of its statehood. Israel's Jewish birthrate is upheld by ultra Orthodox nutjobs, and ultra Orthodox nutjobs can have a lot of kids because of the free land they get in the occupied territories. But what Israeli is going to want to settle anywhere near Palestinians after this debacle? Clearly the IDF can't protect settlers at all when shit really hits the fan. In that case Israeli demographics can tip in favour of the Arabs way sooner than expected and Israel can expect to get South Africa'd by the end of this century.
No.584607
>>584598Im a brazillan anon
No.584609
>>584604Actual human trash, may Allah destroy the Zionist nation forever. Ameen.
No.584611
Will Turkey enter?
No.584612
>>584605Never read settlers, you should probably go outside the anglobox worldview and read more :) but its telling that youre crying and shitting over the objective view that israelis should all be liquidated
No.584614
>>584606You are wrong. It's a huge win for the right wing. Israel is going to win military because how can they not and this will give them the perfect cover for invading Gaza and establish their litte Greater Israel utopia.
No.584615
>>584601You do realise that regardless of it being Hamas or not, Israel will still and try and use this as "justification" to kill more Palestenians and crack down on them harder.
No.584616
>>584614They voluntarily gave up Gaza numbnuts. The only way they could occupy it effectively would be by murdering the Palestinians there. Which would completely collapse foreign support for Israel.
No.584617
>>584616They will murder the Palestinians there and they will have enough support for it to survive as a nation.
No.584619
>>584613I'm sure if PLO and PFLP are communist they don't want to "liquidate all israelis" like ziggers are saying here. They want one socialst state with freedom of religion. Hamas on the other hand is Israel best asset. They can point at it to say how reactionary Palestine.
No.584620
>>584619Stop projecting your skinless "elevated" opinion on people facing extinction
No.584621
>>584215This. They rounded up all the Arab Jews in the world by false flag bombing them so they could turn them into their attack dogs against the other Arabs.
No.584622
>>584619Sure but neither the zigga or anti-zigga positions apply here. Both Hamas and PFLP go into action when Gaza is attacked. Ironically this is a similar thing to Ukronazis and Ukrainian anarchists fighting together against Russians, or the KMT and CPC against Japan.
No.584623
>>584618Those paraglider paratroopers go hard
No.584625
>>584617Not a chance. The Western sentiment for the tit-for-tat stuff has been shifting away from the Zionest entity. If they wiped out Gaza over a few hundred "civilians" there would be a boycott like what bought down Apartheid South Africa.
No.584626
>>584622Hamas arent nazis, Urkanians are controlled by GLADIO nazis
:)
No.584627
Settler status?
No.584628
>>584619meanwhile, the "innocents":
>>584604 No.584629
>>584623Is the use of paragliders pure surprise effect? You don't even need an AA gun to take one down, do you?
No.584630
>>584604But muh Israeli civilians!!! Hamas is worse!!! Because they are islamist???
No.584631
>>584622hate to say it anon, but you got a point
No.584632
>>584620I understand war is war and people die. The problem I have is what happens after. Hamas is not a good plan for the future. But whatever, they will lose either by communists or israelis.
No.584633
>>584598>halftry like 90% lol. /leftypol/ has always been and will remain a pro-palestine board
No.584634
>>584629I think they're mostly trying to get over walls. You could also go high enough in a paraglider to avoid small arms fire.
No.584635
>>584632Its not "war is when people die" but Palestine is facing genocide and might not survive the XXIst century. Israel is the one doing genocide. You nuance falls flat on the face of ethnic extermination. Any faction that manages to save Palestine and liquidate the genocidal colonizers is leagues above any that cannot manage that
No.584636
>>584625You have more faith in the West than you should. Israel is too strategically important for the US to give up on, regardless of what they do. Nobody really cares about genocide unless it happens to Westerners.
No.584637
>>1618599
notice how no one is calling for the eradication of any jews outside of Israel
No.584638
>>584632Gaza has no future, that's the point. People can bitch and moan about Hamas and Mossad supporting their rise but at this point Hamas is just another case of botched Western blowback. Like it not, Palestinian resistance, especially in Gaza, is the only thing keeping the Israelis from implementing faster methods of their open air ghetto genocide.
No.584639
>>584629The best thing to shoot at them would be a GPMG or HMG set up for the AA role with automated tracking. But that doesn't get made much since the vast majority of AA is SAM's currently, hence why drones are getting through so much defense.
As it is, it allows for them to get pretty deep into territory and, unlike most paratrooper deployments, potentially back out on their own.
No.584640
>>584637uygha just don't bite.
No.584641
>>584635And how will Hamas manage to save Gaza from extinction exactly?
No.584642
>>584637Jews =/= Israelis
Liquidation of colonziers, regardless of their creed or ethnic background, is a noble goal
No.584643
>>584436what a nice group of young men. I'm sure nothing untowards will happen to this young woman
No.584644
>>584641By forcing the Israelis to retreat and stall? How will your flaccid nuance outgun Israel? Im not sure why you prefer to shit on Hamas over Israel. Yor racism glows my friend
No.584645
>>584643If genociders dont want to have their women raped, maybe they shouldnt rape Palestinians
No.584647
>>584646Right, they should just give up their land right? Become morally righteous and ideologically pure and be the perfect victims and martyrs right? Go fuck yourself
No.584648
>>584632>its war is war and people dieyou have a point anon, but last time I checked, one side was facing genocide from a settler colony for decades and the other is the settler colony.
Granted, the Palestinians as a whole aren't unified under a communist bloc- and yeah, that sucks, but their liberation from Israel as well as an end to Israel would be a step in stopping that genocide- considering Israel is founded on Zionism which in it of itself is genocidal.
>but won't the Palestinians enact said genocide against IsraelisWe won't know that until we see it and if its made official policy. Im certainly hoping they don't as I don't find genocide justifiable on any accounts. But im pretty sure re-claiming stolen land lost to you via genocide isn't genocide in it of itself.
No.584649
>>584636>Israel is too strategically important for the US to give up on, regardless of what they do.So was Apartheid South Africa. All the Arab states surrounding the Zionist entity except for Syria are now effectively US client states. The only real threat to US hegemony is Iran and the Zionist entity offers little strategic position against Iran.
US support for Israel is coasting on its significance during the Cold War.
No.584650
Yeah you are lucky this conflict has historical baggage. But you know that when more conflicts start in countries that didn't know existed yesterday, between reactionary leaders mobilizing their respective population towards carnage, you would still be picking sides.
No.584651
>>584644Nothing can outgun Israel. If they want to flatten Gaza to the ground they will do it and the current Israeli government is insane enough to do it. War is only useful if you can win and there is no way Hamas can win this. It's just a suicide mission at this point.
No.584652
>>584650<pwease just accept US hegemonyOrganise one worker.
No.584653
>NOOOO, HOW DARE THOSE HECKIN EVIL BAD NO GOOD INDIANS DO A HECKIN TERRORISM AGAINST THE GOOD PURE ARYAN SETTLERS!!! THIS IS LITERALLY 1984!!!!!
This is how you sound, sittleroids.
No.584659
>>584655"Kiev is just about to fall" type vibes
No.584660
>>584649I hope you're right, but I can't help but think that you are being a tad bit too optimistic here. The Israeli lobby is still pretty strong in the US and they have money and resources.
No.584661
>>584654If this is actually a big brain play to draw the IDF south before attacks from Lebanon then the situation is going to be so bad that the Zionists are going to be tempted to use nukes.
No.584662
>>584447mens rea right there
>>584460blessed
>>1618476>deny the holodomorthe double genocide myth is a form of holocaust denial you dumbfuck. see the latest "clean Waffen-SS" shit using it to justify the actions of Ukrainian SS volunteers
>>584655source xir, please and thank you
No.584663
>>584202Nentahu has colluded with Hamas and bitches don't know 😂
No.584664
>>584660Most of the Zionist lobby is Jews, most of whom are going to keep voting Democrat. Or Evangelical Christians which will keep voting Republican.
No.584665
>>584661>the Zionists are going to be tempted to use nukes.Sure, if they want to do autogenocide.
No.584666
>>584663Yeah dude, Israel supported the islamist powers of Palestine which forced their dominance, which means that they are friends and allies of the Isralis right? Brave mujahadeen who fight for freedom and all that
No.584667
Been a few hours since I last checked, anyone wanna give me a QRD on new developments?
No.584668
>>584665They've literally threatened it in the past.
No.584670
>>584654holy shit
>>584663>when the religious terrorist group you funded to suppress socialists winds up doing terrorism Yeah damn, like we haven't seen this before.
No.584672
One of you uyghas get a thread prepared with some links or an intro please and make it when this one runs out. I was op of this one and added nothing to it
Thank you
No.584673
>>584664Problem is that a large part of the US jewry is so invested in the future of Israel that they might start to vote Republican if that help Israel to survive.
No.584674
>>584202Only thing I know is that the mediterranean will be heated
No.584675
>>584673False as god. Most jews in US detest Israel.
No.584676
>>584656I've been looking for that image forever, anon
thank you
No.584677
>>584675Holy shit kill yourself for saying these things. Something like 1/3 or all Israelis are from the USA
No.584680
>>584658The point is probably to provoke a massive IDF ground invasion of Gaza where shit will get extremely real, and maybe even draw Hezbollah in the north, and maaaaybe Iranian units in Syria from the east.
No.584684
>>584675Yeah, no. Birthright and Israeli propaganda is still going strong. There are small pockets of reform jews who are critical of Israeli, but most jews will define themselves as zionists when asked.
No.584685
>>584680If that's the plan, it's a shit one. Hamas and Hezbollah definitely can't beat the IDF, and even Iran wouldn't stand a real chance. Gaza is a goner, this is what you get when you trust Islamist tards. They should have stuck with the PLO.
No.584690
>>584685Palestinians werent pure enough, therefore they should shoulder extermination
No.584691
>>584681It is most of the reform jews as well. They might be increasingly critical of the Israeli right wing turn, but they still support the idea of an Israeli state.
No.584693
>>584656>>584662[spoiler]it's based on areas with reported combat and partisan activity, not what Hamas actually controls, but still pretty impressive[/spoiler]
No.584694
>>584690Not about being pure or deserving anything. Don't be an idealist, it's unbecoming.
No.584695
>>584685the PLO was also incompetently led btw, having a good party line didnt make up for anything. hamas & IJ are the ones fighting for liberation now, even if they are doomed and made a major strategic blunder (we cant know that yet), the smug dismissive attitude is inappropriate
No.584697
>>584685>They should have stuck with the PLO.If you actually consider yourself a Marxist you should investigate why support has collapsed for the PLO after the "peace" process instead of blaming the masses for not picking the right group.
No.584698
>>584677Yeah, that is why I said jews living in the US, retard.
No.584700
>>584696uuhhh, leopard status?
No.584701
>>584651>nothing can outgun israelbig "we're the chosen people" vibes
no, you're not special
yes, israel will we wiped out
No.584702
>>584695>smug dismissive attitude is inappropriateIt's a little warranted because all the Palestinians living in Gaza are absolutely fucked and gonna get either killed or """relocated""" because Hamas is more interested in going down in a suicidal blaze of glory than protecting the people they supposedly govern.
No.584703
>>584202How will this affect the devolpment of the Nintendo Switch 2 tho?
No.584704
>>584688I would like to know how many jews who identify as Zionists before I drew any conclusions from that.
No.584705
>>584697I know the PLO was shit, but they at least wouldn't have done something this suicidally pointless.
No.584707
>>584702Exactly. I'm worried about a full scale genocide here.
No.584708
>>584702Wahhhh what else could they doooo? Not being reactionaries? Wahhhh
No.584710
>>584702>it's le suicide attack!yes, the alternative is laying down and being genocided anyway
stop being a bitch
No.584711
>>584705Don't fight, just sit down and take Israeli cock like a good little piggy. Thoughts and Prayers, though!
No.584713
>>584710>>584711You can fight without being retarded about it. Every guerilla warfare theorist in human history would agree that that was a bad move.
No.584715
>>584702>>584707I am worried about that too. That doesnt mean im going to think dumb shit like "thats why you dont follow le islamists" like youre commenting on a badly coached football game
No.584716
I don't care about the bait. Maybe Palestine be free
No.584717
>>584715It's an important conclusion, because a lot of people STILL think Islamists are capable of being a progressive historical force despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
No.584718
>>584705The point is that the conditions in Gaza caused by the Zionist entity are so bad that the masses support a group like Hamas. At some point in degradation you either give up and become a slave or you fight even if it will lead to your death.
No.584719
FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA, PALESTINE SHALL BE FREE
No.584720
>>584713Taking territory might be new for them, but last time round they already successfully overwhelmed the iron dome with the missile barrage.
Simply doing that again without taking territory would would be plenty effective, but also not really a development in terms of tactics.
Fact of the matter is, they were able to take territory with minimal losses, therefore it was a good idea for them to do so. Now, we must see if they are able to hold on to it, develop supply lines, mine their borders, etc.
No.584721
>>584615>you cant defend yourself, they will just use it as justification for more repression !with that line of thought, no anticolonial or revolutionary struggle can be justified. It is only a reasonable arguments against pure adventurists, and as internal debate to decide if you, the one suffering from the repression already and after, should do the operation. Libs going "b-but you just gonna get flattened!" as if they werent getting slowly exterminated already are objectively on the colonizer side.
All colonial struggle are made from an inferior military strength, its about inflicting enough damage to make it politically and economically unsustainable
No.584722
>>584715I think most of us know (I hope) that the Palestinians have little choice but to follow the islamists, but that doesn't mean it is a good thing. The situation is looking pretty dire. The Israelis are bloodythirsty bastards and Hamas is usually pants on head retarded.
No.584723
>Look at those stupid Trotskyists supporting ISIS
<Nooooooo Hamas will save Palestine don't you see
No.584725
>>584689Did you expect them to have the mobile crematoriums?
No.584726
>>584713The Palestinians tried all the standard guerrilla warfare theory for over seventy years. What it got the Gazans was being locked in an open air prison.
No.584727
>>584723hmmm i wonder who was funding ISIS and who were they fighting against………………..
No.584728
Sup fellow ziggers
I'm fucking enjoying seeing all the zionists fucking losing it. Lots of cope in this thread lmao
No.584731
>>584729Does this mean escalation will happen?
>>584728I never thought I'd side with the z-tards in a thread
No.584734
https://twitter.com/LocalFocus1/status/1710654703837602192High tension between ISF and Hezbollah operatives at Northern Israel borders/ Blue Line. ISF opened gunfire at a group of Hezbollah operatives riding motorcycles and approached the Technical Fence; No injuries reported
https://soundcloud.com/yotu-xdd/hela-hela-hel-hamas-al-qassam No.584735
>>584728Some of us just have the foresight to realize that the temporary dopamine hit from stealing some jeeps and taking over a base or two isn't worth a subsequent brutal crackdown and probable genocide.
No.584736
>>584732Dude, we're on leftypol. Nobody except the shitty tourist trolls think that way. Stop shitting up the thread with bait
No.584737
>>584731Probably means as much as all of us "supporting" Palestinians.
No.584738
100 Israelis dead
200 Palestinians dead (via airstrikes)
No.584739
>>584728Mf here probably said Kiev would fall in 2 days
No.584741
>>584735Bibi is probably rubbing his little grubby hands together and planning his next move.
No.584742
>>584735They were already being genocided you fuckwit. People aren't going to follow you if you tell them to just sit and wait for another few decades of oppression because continued militancy is futile.
No.584745
>>584740Is there a phonk montage out yet?
No.584746
>>584742It'll become very apparent in the next few days that there's a difference between "genocide" in a rhetorical sense and actual industrial ethnic cleansing. I hope to God I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. Israel's reprisals for a few rockets have consistently been brutal, and this is way way way beyond that.
No.584748
>>584744Well if they weren't gonna get involved before they sure as shit are now
No.584751
>>584744I wish Iran actually had nukes.
No.584752
>>584739seethe. Israel is dying
No.584753
>>584743As an Arab, I'm honestly surprised how some Israelis can pop out some perfect Arabic when they need to.
No.584754
Israel intelligence knew this would happen, they just let it to counter the recent protests against the Israeli government.
No.584755
>>584682you have been visited by the fleeing festival settler of the Levant
Palestinian liberation will come to you
but only if you reply "run hippie run" to this post
No.584756
>>584746>"genocide" in a rhetorical senseget the fuck out mossad
No.584757
>>584746>industrial ethnic cleansingwhich is what israel currently does, yes
No.584758
>>584751They have but are lying to the west since international sanctions exist.
No.584759
So what did Netanyahu did this time that people need to be distracted from?
No.584760
>>584756>>584757I don't know what to fucking tell you. What's happening Gaza is atrocious and brutal, but when you see mass graves and untold slaughter, you'll realize there IS a difference
No.584762
>>584759I don't know but it probably involved horse cum
No.584763
>>584758 (me)
"International" aka cracker sanctions.
No.584764
>>584754Now they finally have a pretext for invading Gaza and everyone is going to forget about that pesky, little juridical reform.
No.584765
>>584759Opposition to the Israeli government has been increasing.
No.584766
>>584746The Palestinians were already industrially ethnic cleansed. And that is the point. This isn't some temporary situation where some light could be seen beyond like trying to survive in the concentration camps until the Allies arrived. There hasn't been any movement on the "peace" process in decades.
So at some point people either give up or are willing to die fighting even if it is futile.
No.584768
>>584760how about you tell us you're leaving and going back to Tel Aviv
No.584770
>>584764Yeah but it seems like the Gaza resistance is ready for inflicting maximal casualties, if IDF KIA reach into a few hundred (or even more), you're gonna see some political blowback because Israelis have been casualty averse since 1990. This is going to be the bloodiest fighting since the Yom Kippur War if Netanyahu is serious about this.
No.584772
>>584768Man fuck off, this isn't a game. Thousands of people are going to get slaughtered for this, will you drop the spectator mentality for five fucking seconds
No.584775
>>584769They've already been suffering for decades upon decades, but god help them if this fails.
No.584776
>>584769Not really a hot take. That's why hamas doesn't let elections happen.
No.584777
>>584769Innocent palestinians suffer every day, lad.
No.584778
>>584760>>584772back 2 >>>/europe/ pls, zionist cretin
No.584780
>>584770I bet Netanyahu is dead serious about this. I just hope that there will be blowback if they start going full genocide.
No.584781
>>584772Thousands in Gaza have been getting slaughtered for decades year in year out. If this were France or South Korea or Burgertown, USA you might have a point about needless suffering. But just like the Warsaw uprisings in the 1940s, you either take up arms to force your own destiny or you let the genocider do it for you. There is no future for Gaza under Israeli domination.
No.584782
>>584778I'm talking about Palestinians you fucking retard. Do you even care how many of them are going to die when Israel strikes back or is this just like a sport for you?
No.584784
>>584781I see your point and I understand that desperation is causing this. But, there has to be a better choice than just pressing the collective suicide button.
No.584785
Make new thread please someone
No.584787
>>584784you're a fucking waste of oxygen and water on this rock.
No.584788
>>584782>dont do anything<israel bombs you>do something<israel bombs youwow big fucking choices we have here
>inb4 b-but this time they'll do more!!you've yet to demonstrate that not doing these attacks PREVENTS or REDUCES israeli strikes
your position rests on trusting that the zog zombies will not just use another excuse
OR USE NO EXCUSE AT ALL LIKE THEY USUALLY DO SINCE ISRAEL CAN DO LITERALLY ANYTHING UP TO AND INCLUDING ACQUIRING NUCLEAR WEAPONS WITH ABSOLUTELY NO CONSEQUENCES No.584789
>>584784It won't be a genocide because the resistance won't let them. Imagine if reports of mass murders a la Sabra and Shatila come out, there is no way it doesn't spark domestic Arab anger inside Israel proper, and there's no way Iran and Hezbollah don't spark the northern and eastern fronts. Israel is in an extremely precarious position.
No.584790
>>584769Knowing how Israel will indiscriminately lob in any Palestinian resistance with Hamas regardless if it was them or not- Sadly so.
That being said, why should we give a fuck about what this guy has to say?
No.584792
>>584789>Warsaw uprisingsWhitout a red army behind, useless. Good analogy.
No.584793
>>584789I wonder if Israel even cares about domestic anger at this point.
No.584794
>>584793Israeli Arab riots spooked them very heavily in the last Gaza incident, they're used to West Bank chaos but Arab resistance in Israel proper amounts to a de facto civil war.
No.584796
>>584713they already do that
israelis already do that
israelis are already ethnically cleansing palestine of palestinians, please my guy you are so tiring
No.584798
>>584792Yeah well it's not like they have better options. Plus Hezbollah is a more reliable ally than the Soviets were to Polish nationalists (not that can of worms needs to be opened, I'm not blaming Soviets)
No.584800
>>584771life comes at you fast
No.584801
>>584795It's so fucking ofir, ziosisters…
No.584802
>>584794I hope that the Israeli arabs rise up if Israel invades Gaza.
No.584803
>>584795> motorcyclessounds pretty fuckin limited at the moment
No.584804
>>584672<3 thank u anoni can try to work on a new general, gimme a few
No.584806
>>584803Do Hezbollah have tanks?
No.584811
>>584805And there it is, rip Palestine, you will hopefully be avenged one day
No.584813
>>584805>By the end of today, there will be no more living terrorists left in Israelso all the israelis will die? based if true
No.584814
>>584809Two week anti terrorist operation
No.584819
>>584815That's a Merkava I or II. Didn't think they were still operating them.
No.584825
>>584824>which many reports are saying came from the Biden administrationCritical support for Dark Brandon in this Intifada
No.584826
>>584823This is your brain on Russiagate
No.584829
>>584827>reactionary identitarian government supporting anothertracks
No.584830
>>584828pretty sure thats from the last war
No.584833
>>584805>israel is going to commit mass suicidebased beyond belief
No.584834
>>584827Hindutvas trying to dick ride Israel while being ignored is hilarious.
>>584830They are doing it again.
No.584835
this comes at a time when israel is in the middle of negotiations with saudi arabia who will only normalize relations if the arab peace initiative is implemented
No.584837
>>584835Just as planned
/Iran
No.584838
If all of the non Jews within Israel (1948) borders coordinated and stopped working they could cripple Israel internally like how apartheid fell because the townships were lost
No.584843
>>584841Maybe the Arab anon ITT can do it.
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