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Quick Debunks Anonymous 2024-02-12 (Mon) 09:05:40 No.1758387

Is there any resource where I can get quick info/copypastes to BTFO anticommunists? I know leftypedia was possibly going to have something like this but couldn't really see anything about it on there. Does anyone else have any ideas for how to compile this?

Anonymous 2024-02-12 (Mon) 09:20:50 No.1758396

1) choose a topic
2) pirate all books related to that topic
3) read all the pirated books related to that topic
4) congratz you can now debunk anything related to that topic

>but I want it NOW and I want someone ELSE to do it
too bad. you're a part of the left now so grow up and do your damn job.

Anonymous 2024-02-12 (Mon) 09:22:03 No.1758397

there's this thread with a google doc
https://leftypol.org/edu/res/4210.html

Anonymous 2024-02-12 (Mon) 09:37:14 No.1758405

Snopes.com

Anonymous 2024-02-12 (Mon) 09:43:03 No.1758407

>>1758396
>too bad. you're a part of the left now so grow up and do your damn job.

the amount of time it takes to try to debunk the 'muh gorillions' thing is not an effective use of it since it comes up so often, it would be much easier to just have a stock response

Anonymous 2024-02-12 (Mon) 10:15:19 No.1758422

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>>1758387
We used to have infographic posting generals.

Anonymous 2024-02-12 (Mon) 10:16:36 No.1758426

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>>1758396
>too bad. you're a part of the left now so grow up and do your damn job.
Shut the fuck up. >>1758407 is right.

Educating people takes time. We should consider and share ways to make this more efficient rather than waste time on unnecessarily re-inventing the wheel. If we can guide skeptical people to an FAQ wiki which answers all their what-ifs and i-gotchas, then that's perfect.
It is completely achievable to make debunking more anti-communist bullshit more efficient than generating it.

>>1758387
This isn't a proper answer to your question, but it's worth knowing the booru has some good guides. Someone posted a work-in-progress wiki on /edu/ somewhere inspired by the leftypedia Rhetoric articles, I think the idea is great but it's only got two articles so far and those need a bit of work to make them less 'youre wrong' in their delivery.

Anonymous 2024-02-12 (Mon) 10:21:51 No.1758431

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>>1758426 *
Inforgraphics - https://lefty.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=infographic
Debunks, which aren't tagged as infographics - https://lefty.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=debunk+-infographic

>>1758422
Now that you mention it, I remember seeing one a few years ago. If you have some, make a thread. If you don't want to, I'll download a few and make a thread.

Anonymous 2024-02-12 (Mon) 10:26:11 No.1758433

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>>1758431

Anonymous 2024-02-12 (Mon) 10:30:38 No.1758436

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>>1758431

Anonymous 2024-02-12 (Mon) 10:36:43 No.1758439

>>1758433
>under socialism, the working day is as short as possible because the labor pool is maximized
Wrong. The working day is as long as socially necessary, according to goal of maximizing the forces of production.

Anonymous 2024-02-12 (Mon) 10:37:28 No.1758440

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>>1758431

Anonymous 2024-02-12 (Mon) 10:44:31 No.1758443

>>1758439
Socialism isn't a productivity cult

Anonymous 2024-02-12 (Mon) 10:53:22 No.1758452

>>1758387
>I know leftypedia was possibly going to have something like this but couldn't really see anything about it on there
This seems like the best place to have resources like this. Plenty of debunks can be found across internet with few google searches but these should be centralised in one place for /leftypol/ users.

https://marxistbonkers.medium.com/6-anti-communist-arguments-debunked-fc802371a3f3

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDeprogram/comments/14kckr7/anticommunist_arguments_debunked/

Anonymous 2024-02-12 (Mon) 10:58:15 No.1758458

>>1758443
A definite condition of the development and dominance of the socialist mode of production is that it must achieve an intensity of productivity which capitalism couldn't've attained. See Communist China's socialist mode of production for proof of this.

Anonymous 2024-02-12 (Mon) 12:07:30 No.1758506

Genuinely less than useless

Anonymous 2024-02-12 (Mon) 12:14:36 No.1758508

>>1758506
et tu

Anonymous 2024-02-12 (Mon) 12:17:21 No.1758510

>>1758508
Not talking to you, am I

Anonymous 2024-02-12 (Mon) 18:13:21 No.1758836

>>1758422
>>1758436
>>1758440

I like these

Anonymous 2024-02-12 (Mon) 19:52:53 No.1758944

>>1758836
>>1758468

Anonymous 2024-02-12 (Mon) 20:47:59 No.1759027

>>1758422
These are right, but there's really no point in moralizing a mode of production. As shitty as capitalism is, it is a necessary stage of development towards socialism. Instead we should focus on how technological and social progress has outgrown capitalism's potential and how this gives rise to irreconcilable conflicts of interests between classes, leading to exploitation, social unrest, genocide, famine, war and a million different things.

Anonymous 2024-02-12 (Mon) 20:55:19 No.1759039

>>1759027
Another way moralising capitalism is a problem is that libs can point to the several achievements of capitalism and act like it is a morally good system, even though morality should've never been part of the conversation to begin with.

Anonymous 2024-02-22 (Thu) 18:55:08 No.1769585