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>>1826468Stalin was against zionism
No.1826593
>>1826585To be fair the early Israel wasn't as fanatically genocidal as it is today. There was some tension between a labor movement and a chauvinist wing. In the end the reactionnaries won but it's understandable that at some point some left wing figures gave it the benefit of the doubt.
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>>1826794
A careful reading reveals that the other anon (not me) wasn't denying that early Israel was genocidal, but was merely saying that it wasn't quite as genocidal as contemporary Israel. Yes it was always a genocidal settler-colonial project but the fanatical devotion to this project has increased over time, as evidenced by the increase in the scale of killing. They went from simply pigeonholding Palestinians in Gaza, to depriving Gaza of water/electricity, to bombing Gaza, to invading Gaza, to blockading food from entering gaza, to bombing food aid drops, universities, and hospitals. It has gotten worse over time, no?
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>>1826799I didn‘t say that the other Anon claimed Israel wasn‘t genocidal before. I understood them the first time and am saying it is has been the same level when it comes to their genocidal attitude. You are making a consequentialist argument, which is fine, I was referring to attitude though. I would explain every fluctuation in outcome based on Israel‘s capacity to follow its goal, which may be restrained in one form or the other depending on context.
No.1828831
>>1826593It was just as genocidal, retard. Ever heard of the Nakba? Zionism was denounced by leftists, including Jewish ones, as early as the late 19th century.
>>1826458Truth Nuke
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>>1826458this is wholly negated by the fact that the ussr doesn't exist anymore, and that china has never been in better shape than today
No.1830826
>>1830234> china has never been in better shape than todayThe people of China would disagree.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tadu_mSTJC0 No.1830833
>>1830826 Imagine back then when you and other leftists clashed in views, you could just go to the nearest military base, take a tank, and reason with them. Why not use tanks against liberals? Because all the liberals have already been sent to the Gulag.
试想一下当年你和其他左翼人士在观点起了冲突你可以直接去最近的军营拿走坦克和他讲道理
为什么不去用坦克对付自由主义者？因为自由主义者已经全部去古拉格了。
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>>1830826In absolute power, China has never been more powerful than it is now. In living standards, the average quality of life far exceeds that of the past. Only in relative terms could you say that China is relatively weak. I guess people aren’t educated on what the 20s and 30s were like.
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>>1836216Lol is this made with ai?
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>>1833379>are taquerias petit bourgeois hahahahah
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>>1832237>>1832239this is is like what a liberal graphics arts student makes after reading 1984 for the first time
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>>1826593>To be fair the early Israel wasn't as fanatically genocidal as it is today. Google "the Nakbah"
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>>1826468>>1826585"Zionism—a reactionary nationalist trend of the Jewish bourgeoisie, which had fol- lowers among the intellectuals and the more backward sections of the Jewish work- ers. The Zionists endeavored to isolate the Jewish working-class masses from the
general struggle of the proletariat. Today the Zionist organizations are the agents
of the American imperialists in their machinations directed against the USSR and
the People’s Democracies and the revolutionary movement in capitalist and colonial countries." - notes in Marxism and the National and Colonial question
stalin only supported israels creation because he believed it would weaken british influence in the middle east, only for him to realize it had the opposite effect and increased imperialist influence in the middle east later one
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>>1844648>>1844659>>1844661>>1844663I like how the noose just sticks out of Gitler's head every time. sovl
No.1848568
>>1803210K es esa wea de ir a la barber todas las semanas y ocupar ropa pirata que simula ser de lujo
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>>1848472first one is kek
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>>1811648nah. he says "see you on sunday" he still needs someone to read it to him.
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>>1850104I like the idea but a) don't know how Plato connects to materialism / dialectics / socialism
b) I would rewrite the question as well, into "Who was the brainlet what ruined communism?" , otherwise this sentence could be formulated differently or the premise could be reformulated
Apart from that like the premise tho.
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