No.1790865[Last 50 Posts]
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68526972
>Princess of Wales: Kate image withdrawn by three news agencies amid 'manipulation' concerns
>Three photo agencies have retracted a picture of the Princess of Wales over concerns it has been "manipulated".
>The image, taken by Prince William and issued by Kensington Palace for Mother's Day, showed Catherine with their three children.
>But Associated Press was the first to pull the image as it "did not meet" the agency's photo standards. The agency noted an "inconsistency in the alignment of Princess Charlotte's left hand".
>Kensington Palace declined to comment.
>The photo shows the princess sitting down, surrounded by Princess Charlotte, Prince Louis and Prince George, the latter wrapping his arms around her.
>It was the first official photo of the Princess of Wales since her abdominal surgery two months ago. Since then she has stayed out of the public eye.
>The image was posted on the Prince and Princess of Wales's social media accounts with a message from Catherine which said: "Thank you for your kind wishes and continued support over the last two months.
>"Wishing everyone a Happy Mother's Day."The latest edition of the iconic thread.
We need to shut this country down until we can figure out just what the hell is going on here!
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I think it's time for a return to tradition. Execute the royal family and put a Norwegian in charge.
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pure private school physiognomy
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>>1790873Well can we get resurrected Haakon VII then?
"I am also the King of the Communists"
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>>1790889vampire physiognomy
No.1790937
Most portraits of royals were manipulated. The artists never drew their blemishes, scars, or wrinkles.
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>>1790937Most pics of anyone vaguely famous are manipulated
No.1791291
>>1791033Exactly. We had Photoshop and before that, euphemistic sketch artists/sculptors.
AI generated imagery is just an umpteenth mode
No.1792672
Labour ‘will use maths lessons to debunk conspiracy theories’
>Labour will overhaul maths lessons so that children are not fooled by dodgy statistics and conspiracy theory claims on social media.
>Children are being exposed to misogyny online but also to social media posts from rogue states that threaten democracy and leave them panicked about the state of the world, she said before a speech to head teachers, due on Saturday.
>Maths teachers will be expected to give examples of plausible-looking but egregiously manipulated figures from conspiracy theorists, or political actors such as Russian bots, and to teach how to pick them apart.
>Phillipson, who will unveil her plans at the conference of the Association of School and College Leaders, said: “The world is changing fast and young people are exposed to more and more material online. I want them to be able to challenge, to scrutinise, to be able to analyse what they’re seeing. Some of what they see online is misogynistic but it’s about the health of our democracy and national security.”
>The MP for Houghton & Sunderland South also told The Times she wanted older boys to become mentors in school to counter toxic masculinity and the messages of figures like Andrew Tate.
>“They can be really strong role models within their school communities, demonstrating leadership. It has a great impact in influencing what’s going on in their school, but also countering some of the negativity that young people will see online,” she added.
>“It’s often been the case that girls and young women have raised concerns around misogyny in school but this isn’t a problem that girls can solve alone.
>“And it shouldn’t be left just to girls and young women. It’s about young men, being a big part of that positive change within our schools.”
>Peer mentors could be used to shift the culture, call out unacceptable behaviour and help demonstrate to boys “how to be a young man in modern Britain”, she added.https://archive.is/xBi73 No.1792676
>>1792672This is actually pretty interesting. Even most PhD's are garbage at using statistics and rely heavily on cookie cutter methods. Data literacy in general is pretty low.
No.1792678
So is kate middleton dead or something?
No.1792684
>>1792676If you trust the party of Iraqi WMDs to teach schoolchildren about misinformation, I don't know what to say.
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Government unveils new definition of extremism
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68556914>Under the new definition, which comes into force on Thursday, extremism is "the promotion or advancement of an ideology based on violence, hatred or intolerance, that aims to:
>negate or destroy the fundamental rights and freedoms of others; or
>undermine, overturn or replace the UK's system of liberal parliamentary democracy and democratic rights; or
>intentionally create a permissive environment for others to achieve the results in (1) or (2)." No.1794522
>>1794377The royal family is literally a constant extremist threat under this definition, monarchists themselves would be persecuted if you applied this at all consistently
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>>1794377this country is so fucked
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>>1794515Thankfully they are mainly targeting the far-right and homophobic islamist groups - for now.
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>>1794562Anon this is false.
Look into each of the Islamic orgs listed, and there websites display them as liberal groups and/or social justice esque ones similar to Christian or Jewish liberal or social justice orgs.
This is about silencing, suppressing the Asian Population in this country, it is a racist policy and I bet it is down to the issue of occupied Palestine.
Sooner or later these so called anti extremist policies will go against us communists and socialists.
Left rhetoric, orgs and so on have been listed in prevent documents increasingly the past few years, including banning anti capitalist material in schools.
In truth we're not fucked in the future, we are already fucked now.
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>>1794377Interesting that this doesn't mention the protection of the monarchy in any way?
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Anons every time I connect to YouTube on any fresh account with any UK ip I get recommended this video type which is; man hangs around a filth station or MOD site and films, maybe fly drones around until pigs turn up and ask for naked and address so he says 'no' and they bicker about it for a bit and that's the whole video.
It's weird as fuck, is it a new trend? What's the point?
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>>1794707I wouldn't want to use police power to clamp down in people making fun of Kate's Brazilian butt lift disaster either
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>>1791241>bluecheck>censoredKill you're self
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>>1794719With the implementation of ULEZ, the nascent 'anti speed cameras' movement has morphed into full on right wing animosity towards the police/council, and lacking anything better to do they often provoke them for pointless videos
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>>1794918>the nascent 'anti speed cameras' movement has morphed into full on right wing animosity towards the police/councilAnd why exactly is this not a good thing?
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>>1794926Because it's on completely unsound foundations, they hate the government for lockdown, and speed limits, and other dumb shit that protects the public (I'm not gonna say there's not an element of exploitation in speed cameras but considering motorists are the most coddled demographic in the UK I don't feel that bad for them).
It's the same kind of shit as sovereign citizens in the US, funny because they piss off bootlickers but they're just schizo reactionaries.
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>>1794927>Because it's on completely unsound foundations, they hate the government for lockdown, and speed limits, and other dumb shit that protects the public Lockdowns and speed limits both disproportionately hurt the working class in a very direct way. It's entirely valid that people are upset about getting a £1000 fine for going a few mph over the speed limit, or exceeding their state-mandated one hour outdoors time.
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>>1794956Getting sick and dying also hurts the working class directly. Working class people also disproportionately are pedestrians or people who can't afford private healthcare so are more liable to die of COVID.
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>>1795446The group most likely to die of COVID (although the risk is still extremely low) are elderly people, who are by far the richest demographic in the country.
If speed limits were to protect pedestrians they wouldn't exist on motorways or A roads.
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>>1795531And do you think that of all the elderly people in the country it was the rich ones or the poor ones who were dying most?
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>>1795531I agree speed limits on the motorways are too low and are silly in general. I just don't really care one way or another about the speed camera hating people, but as for ULEZ I do actually care a bit since I don't want to breathe poison.
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>>1795532It doesn't matter. The government instituted an unnecessary lockdown which irreversibly psychologically and economically destroyed young people, just to protect pensioners from a glorified cough they have a 99.9% chance of surviving anyway.
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>>1795531>The group most likely to die of COVID (although the risk is still extremely low) are elderly people, who are by far the richest demographic in the country. Dying isn't the only negative outcome from catching COVID. There's all kinds of physical and mental complications that can result and end up crippling people possibly for life, and there's all kinds of other potential subsequent reactions that we have no way to anticipate.
And aside from that, "the elderly is a wealthy demographic so it's okay for old people to be killed" is fucking evil and insane and retarded.
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>>1795676Oh, so you're just a crazy person.
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Why do all the children look disgusting
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>>1795676peter hitchens ahhh take
No.1796857
Why do they hate megan? An esoteric analysis:
The caste system derives its name and meaning from the colour of skin, or more wholly, the fairness of the person's features, where the lighter are regarded higher than the darker. This is not simply to lock in the values of bare racism, but to set a beauty standard, which was present in india during the time the aryans ruled.
The evidence of a "beauty standard" being enshrined into legal code survives by records of inter-caste weddings where the higher would choose a lower (this also existed in feudal europe and was seen as literal "social mobility". This is also present in plato's explication of higher metals being born from lower ones and thus aspiring higher in the spiritual order). This we see too in the concept of beautiful angels around the throne of God within the great chain of being, where satan as the epitome of ugliness sits at the bottom (many popes in history have also referred to their boy prostitutes as "angels" where they stand as God)..
So in the traditionalist worldview, authority is granted by beauty since beauty is closest to God, we see this too in contemporary culture with celebrites being our "beautiful people" who are scouted as children to be groomed into fame.
The aristocratic system begins this way, as a line of rightful nobility; of physical and mental excellence, but the lack of outsourcing leads to paranoia and inbreeding. The line becomes tainted and the natural right is lost.
This creates political ideas of a supernatural right of rule which protects the falling stock of the royalty. In britain we have the same, and most today of course with our total surrender of the king to parliament.
Megan appears however as a black woman, a lower caste person, but she is beautiful, and has the instability and machiavellianism of ages past, yet she is hated for all these qualities, because today's royalty is somewhat of a decadent anti-royalty that has lost its right, and when megan shows up she begins to split it apart, then the queen dies. Now the king has cancer.
She is beautiful but she is black, so she is almost the spectre of the new face of britain, a new and rightful queen who seems like she would bring back absolutism, and so she is forbidden from participation. The monarchy dies in vain and in spite of its succession.
So basically, megan markle defeats monarchy because she embodies the traditionalist idea of caste proper by being a new aryan that is denied.
As time goes on we will get more aryans reincarnating and filling in the space of the spiritual gerontocracy and there will be a rebirth.
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>>1796857why do they hate Megan?
An Materialist Analysis: Racism.
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>>1796901>"It is worth noting that the question of whether Galloway will move beyond the dead-end path of reformism remains up in the air."He won't
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>>1797296terrorist is whatever the government declares as terrorism, leftoids find out
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>>1797296This is going to get a lot worse under Labour btw. Think about that before you vote for them.
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>>1797310I mean I really don't think it makes any difference whether it's Labour or Tories, this has bipartisan support. But yeah I won't be voting Starmer labour.
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>>1797338The Tories at least have a libertarian faction who occasionally lobby against this crap out of principle. You are right though, we're broadly fucked whoever wins later this year.
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what can i as a lone schizo neet individually even do to practically help improve the situation at all on this shithole island?
i feel like we're beyond any help, rejecting marxism and taking the anarcho-nihilist pill at this point
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>>1797477Kill yourself and everyone around you
No.1797928
Nothing quite screams British like seeing the native American inclusive LGBT flag hanging from shop fronts in Cardiff
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>>1797827Buy a car and you can legally do that with the carbon emissions
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>>1797477Eh just join a pressure group like extinction rebellion, you can agitate for change and go to rallies and stuff, or a tenant union or any other group like that that actually does stuff.
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Angloids
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>>1797296At the very least it's a prevent guideline, meaning it's as toothless as you'd think.
If the US tik tok ban is any indication, they won't come to directly outlawing narratives but simply attempt to strong-arm media platforms for state control.
>>1797310The party that wants to outlaw VPNs? No, couldn't be…
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>>1797477Organise a Maoist cell. It's hard but possible.
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>>1797477>>1797938Yea this but I would say join Palestine solidarity orgs.
It'll stop you being as much of a schizo and neet maybe.
>and taking the anarcho-nihilist pill at this pointWhy? Anarchy is not popping in the UK and hasn't for a decade after some cmpaigns of repressions and the reprecusuons of neoliberalism and gentrificationand etc, everyone real invested in that moved for the most part and those who didn't… Well you see even those who only do propaganda zines from that tendency are imprisoned.
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>>1798044The only thing wrong about this is the white male idpol. In fact i'd recommend this treatment to Arab, Indian and Korean men too, who suffers from an extreme surplus of disaffected and nihilist young men due to worsening economic conditions.
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>>1798056>The only thing wrong about this is the white male idpol.I think the idea is these police get the whites and Prevent gets the browns.
Idk who gets the Koreans tho sorry.
More importantly, have thry ever had a Korean on love Island? I think not… thats the real racism here.
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>>1798056I'm sure "the hate monster is too eurocentric" was not the criticism they expected to get from this campaign.
>>1798091Has there ever even been an east asian male on Love Island?
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>>1798044>US racial pescriptivism has reached the team responsible for counter-radicaisation effortsAmazing stuff, love to see it.
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>>1798044>>1798211You can imagine with absolute irony the conditions in which the prevent teams are encountering what they chart as 'white-male entitement'. These are sexist, mysgonistic, and racist presentiments that have become inculcated as a result of what they rightly highlight as conditions of poverty; but they are not there to counter the root cause, the unequal distribution of wealth, but solely to monitor and police the social acceptability of an individual's thought.
The entire situation is entangled with the dual irony that is typical of the liberal bourgeois state: the society that gives rise to violent radicalisation necessary for the services of Prevent is one endemic of the success of capitalism, thus the longer it continues the worse it will become.
Thatcher haunts Britain from beyond the grave with her affirmation that there is no scoiety, only individuals. Society itself cannot conceive of cohesive social movements which premise a historical and social context for its participants because it is deadlocked between one in which the sole purpose is for the reproduction of the
individual itself; the individual of idealist bourgeois thought.
The legacy of the conservatives may be pockmarked by catastrophic failures in government, but this simply the direct result of their own success. It is wealth, for wealths sake. The longer factions of British society remain stuck or glued to their political horshoe, which in itself can be seen to be a farce with Starmer's identical positioning in his policies to the Tories, the worse things in general will become. Again, McDonald was right when he tried to press part of the Labour party into responding, in some sense, to what is liberal socities own existential threat: poverty. But nothing will happen.
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>>1798253>the world's mixed races combine to form a man who is more white than white peoplewhat did he mean by this?
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>>1798103>Has there ever even been an east asian male on Love Island?Assumed not but never seen the show tbqhwy.
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>>1791436But anon, beauty is only skin deep
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>>1792672Any political party that adds "safety measures" to young minds to "counteract evil" is cringe or amoral or immoral.
Adults need to get their own shit together before drowning kids in bullshit.
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>>1792684Okay class,
If Sadam Hussein owns an oil field and has had the capacity to enrich Uranium for 20 years, statistically what level of sanctions must be applied before 1 million innocents are dead prior to an invasion?
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>>1798948wtf did they suck the head tho?
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>>1798253It looks like a depiction of four Spidermen casting their web on their unsuspecting prey.
No.1799578
>>1799515Because I don't want to give the security services a fucking welcome mat to install their spyware for doing something that's about as radical as using Facebook.
No.1799582
https://archive.is/h5ZR8It's a hype-piece
<Rachel Reeves channels Margaret Thatcher in City of London speech
>A Labour government will be as economically radical as Margaret Thatcher, Rachel Reeves will say on Tuesday as she pledges to “fashion a new economic settlement” to restore growth and prosperity.
>In an analogy that is likely to be controversial within her party, the shadow chancellor will use a speech in the City of London to say that the UK stands at an “inflection point” similar to that in the late 1970s.
>And she will pledge, like Thatcher, to restore growth by rejecting “managed decline” and delivering the supply side reforms necessary to “equip Britain to compete in a fast-changing world”.
>Reeves will say that under Labour all future budgets and spending reviews will be assessed for the extent to which they contribute to economic growth with a strengthened enterprise and growth unit within the Treasury.
>She will also pledge a period of “active government” with planning reform and a National Wealth Fund to invest in the industries of the future.“When we speak of a decade of national renewal, that is what we mean,” she will say. “As we did at the end of the 1970s, we stand at an inflection point, and as in earlier decades, the solution lies in wide-ranging supply-side reform to drive investment, remove the blockages constraining our productive capacity, and fashion a new economic settlement, drawing on evolutions in economic thought.”
>Reeves will insist that, Labour’s plans, unlike Thatcher’s, would ensure that future growth would be “broad-based, inclusive and resilient”. But she will argue that it needs a similar kind of radicalism to reach Sir Keir Starmer’s mission to deliver the “highest sustained growth in the G7” by the end of the first term of a Labour government.
>“I remain an optimist about our ability to rise to the challenges we face. If we can bring together public and private sectors, in a national mission — directed at restoring strong economic growth across Britain, she will say.
>The Treasury must be ready to “get to work from day one” on prioritising growth which needed to be “hardwired” into budget and spending review processes.
>As part of this the enterprise and growth unit, which was set up under the last Labour government in 1997, will be expanded to scrutinise all Treasury tax and spending decisions.
>A report from the Institute for Government think tank said the unit was underpowered with less influence now than in the past and no involvement in the management of fiscal events. “We need to do more to enshrine that core growth mission within our economic architecture,” she will say.
>“The answer today is an economic approach which recognises how our world has changed. Building growth on strong and secure foundations, with active government guided by three imperatives: guaranteeing stability, stimulating investment through partnership with business, and reform to unlock the contribution of working people and the untapped potential throughout our economy.”
>Reeves is delivering the Mais Lecture, regarded as the City’s foremost event for the banking and finance sector.
>Laura Trott, chief secretary to the Treasury, said: “Rachel Reeves may be promising a ‘new chapter’, but it will be the same old Labour. No plan, just more borrowing and more taxes, exactly how the last Labour government wrecked our economy.” No.1799598
>>1799515why not? i dont see the reason, used tor a few times just fofr this site and it was too slow for me, also tried using opera builting vpn but its banned for being right wing :(
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>>1799578>tor is spywareHe says while probably posting this from google chrome.
>for doing something that's about as radical as using FacebookPeople get arrested every day for their activity on facebook
>>1799598>it was too slow for meHow old are you?
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>>1799582>economically radicalReeves will go native in the treasury after all of 5 minutes, everyone can see it. She reminds me of the woman minister from the second series of the Thick of It.
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>>1799598>why not? i dont see the reasonBeing in the UK should be reason enough.
I'm not sure how aware you are of what a deeply authoritarian place the Isles have become.
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>>1799582This line in particular stands out:
>Reeves will say that under Labour all future budgets and spending reviews will be assessed for the extent to which they contribute to economic growth with a strengthened enterprise and growth unit within the Treasury.When the comparison to Thathcer is made, they mean it.
They're going to begin issuing spending reviews which require access to funding being barred behind measures of efficency. Not just that, but only ones that 'promote economic growth'. The first and most immediate uptake to be given is that it will do nothing to promote wage growth outside of those set by businesses themselves. The central issue on which voters took to the polls for the last ten years, immigration, will be completely sidelined as importing labour is found to decrease business expenditure or variable capital costs, 'improving' efficency.
This is to say nothing of the fact that it will most likely slam an ice axe into the back of the head of the private care industry; real costs for care will increase whilst wages stagnate and what are effectively slums for the elderly are built on the guiding principle of 'efficency'.
Foreign or overseas labour will be picked up to staff the NHS whilst paid-graduate opportunities for the same positions will remain dead (graduates must volunteer a set amount of hours as part of their course requirement), meaning that anybody who does so is effectively choosing between remaining in the UK or emigrating to earn double their wage overseas to pay off their hefty tuition loan.
The upshot of which is that public services, already strained, will be threatened with complete reviews and driven towards the guiding principle: profit. Educational targets, house building targets, healthcare targets, anything under the sun that can be driven towards revenue (except of course increasing wealth taxes) will be.
Their investment initiatives which will attempt to attract foreign companies will be a complete gamble; companies that are not driven by the acquisition of state business loans for contracts to provide government services must essentially battle between the UK (with minimum wage legislation) or a 'developing economy'. All of which is reliant on headwind from global investors at a time when major economies are suffering from the effects of sustained contractions (the UK officially entered a recession last year).
>>1799620Nothing about it is radical. What's radical is what's about to happen to strained services and councils that cannot cope. Fundamentally they believe that in repeating the commercialization of the 80's and 90's they can begin operating government departments like little businesses. They could pay for all these spending reforms by increasing the higher income tax back to where it was 60 years ago and then bringing in the windfall tax on energy profits. But they refuse to because, as it probably doesn't need to be said, they are as much in the pockets of big business as the conservatives. Whereas the conservatives simply stand for siphoning off private contracts through nepotism, Labour believe they can do so to some sustained effect. Gaps in the quality of living are going to widen and it will be a generational effect. Already first-time house buyers will in 10 years be further down the line in the amount of shit they have to eat (read: the deposit and income requirements they must meet), not to speak of the entire bracket of those already living in poverty who will simply be told to 'get a better job' (be told by their jobcentre to 'upskill') - read again: eat shit.
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>>1799639The only thing that I have to add is that the service economy, which functionally runs on the built-in poverty of its employees, will be caught in this yawning gap.
A couple of things can happen after this. Either Labour fail to drive the necessary growth in the economy, falter in a wage rise, and the gap between the minimum wage and the median wage grow even further apart. Or equally, a wage rise is instituted early on, but the median wage remains depressed, and after the failure of both to match inflation, workers in the UK grow poorer on average.
I can tell you now what they absolutely cannot do: they cannot institute a wage increase and not expect businesses in the service economy to react. Large chains will simply cut hours and reduce their labour pool to what they call 'lean staffing'. Small and independent businesses will simply raise costs whilst keeping wages at the lowest they can be proportionally, probably dropping even further in terms of the already tight net-revenue they generate.
The UK will continue to rest on the iceberg of what is essentially its institution of poverty.
Care workers in care homes are paid less than agency staff for example simply because agency staffing services rely on labour availability and can hence negotiate a better price for their employees. But those who cannot subsist on temporary or scarce employment must take the lowest rate and be contracted by the care home directly (what usually happens is that agencies will hire foreign students, who come in huge numbers to this country, who want to make a bit of money on top of whatever they are given, but are restricted in the amount of hours they may work).
Again, this could all be circumvented by raising the top bracket of the income tax back to where it was 60 years ago, and redistributing it rather than pressing for 'efficency' drives like we're living in some Orwellian fucking society.
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>>1792672people get arrested for online talk because they say exceedingly stupid, self-incriminating shit on facebook with no sense of filter.
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>>1799638>Why is Labour (and basically all the mainstream left) so mired in idealist thinking? You cannot change the world by changing only ideas,Because that's what politics is and has been for the last 30 years. Most everything ceded to the private sector and the art of ruling without materialy controlling anything.
Think ; Driving a Boeing with your hands tied and a spare blindfold to put on when you start plummeting.
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
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>>1799798Yeats, Second Coming, nice.
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>>1799515Why would i do this?
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>>1799578The spyware is for active organizers blud. At least install Tails to a USB and boot and post from that. It'll prevent spyware and obfuscate things enough so that your posts aren't correlated to your home address. /leftypol/ hosts the one of the most counter narrative Palestine threads anywhere in case you didn't notice. Normies in other heavily monitored countries recognize the value of TOR, you should too.
>inb4 they can id you from your keystrokes or some shit No.1800306
>>1800018https://nitter.poast.org/CraigMurrayOrg/status/1754446919441567992<The High Court in London has ruled that people in Scotland and Northern Ireland will not be permitted to log in and witness online the crucial "public" Feb 20/1 Assange appeal hearing.<They warn to do so will be contempt of court and up to 2 years in jail.There are endless reasons, here's one
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I have made 100s of posts on leftypol from my home network.
It's pretty much too late now. Might as well just go on.
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>>1799852>Yeats, Second Coming, niceIt to my mind sums up how we should see and understand current day perfectly, with the direct political analogy of the collapse of the center in politics to the wider anxieties which in Yeats case culminated in WW2 and our case who knows along with the understanding that something new must be born but, well, what can be borne from all this, what 'rough beast'?
It's IMHO very apt and useful way of explaining to people utilising something thry might already know.
I like it.
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>>1800309>I have made 100s of posts on leftypol from my home network.Do you have a dynamic IP address? I'm surprised you haven't been perma'd by the mods.
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>>1800486I have been posting on leftypol ever since OldBO was in charge of it on infinitychan. I have also only been banned for lile 2-3 time for 24hours for stupid low effort troll posts when I was bored throughout this entire time.
I'm on plenty of lists right now probably. Might as well just wing it.
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>>1800509Life writes the greatest drama. The Ring ring tone, the gig work, lmao. Instant contemporary classic.
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>>1800509And that's how I met my wife. :)
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>>1800305Literally all I do with my day is spend my time reading, in a cytube channel, or looking after my dad.
I'm not going to add the perverse fantasy of paranoia and its subsequent evasion into my life. If you need to use sketchy computing tools in your daily activities without any real reason you really need to ask yourself what you're doing in the first place.
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>>1801239>Israel has the right to self defence Human rights lawyer ladies and gentlemen…
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>>1801353Israel is a key ally in the international security interests of Britain. I've said it before in the Palestinian thread, but the reason western nations are towing this line is that if they are seen to be questioning what is believed to be Israel's right to self-defence, they are not only casting a shadow over Israel's existence, but the regional security of the middle east. With a rebellion in his party Starmer is likely well aware of both sides of the argument, but believes that only by working with the system can they achieve the desired outcome that works for both the Israelis and the Palestinians.
The reality is that there is a yawning gap between the technocratic liberal ideals at play in the heads of Brtiish statesmen and that of the reality on the ground for those trapped in Gaza. One sees Israel as a bastion of western democracy in a chaotic and unruly middle east. The other see a fascistic zionist nation that has spent the past half century annihalating their rights and oppressing their very existence.
The absolute irony is that those powers that are bent on international accountability for Israel are denounced as third-rate democracies, while those that continue to deliver arms behind the backs of their citizens that are most likely to be used in massacring innocent children are heralded as the defenders of the democratic ideal.
It genuinely makes you wonder what it must take to become a politician who favours the status-quo.
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Hello, people of Scotland and the fetid southern regions
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>>1801637I return to you now, to tell you
KATE IS DEAD.
that is all.
No.1801665
>>1801650I don't know a Kate sorry.
Have fun tho.
No.1801786
Lads, when Keith rightfully ascends to his position and becomes General Secretary of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Who will throw a pie in his face first?
No.1802138
>>1801786>Keith… Keith.. K..<KATE!I CRACKED IT.
Future Sage came to tell us that Keith after his focus group mandated sex change in order to finally give a labour female leader in the books will be assassinated due to the deteriorating security apparatus and plummeting living standards.
Be ready anons!
No.1802209
interlinked
No.1802420
>>1800509What did he not know his wife delivered food for that company? If he did he probably shouldn't have ordered from them lmao.
No.1802539
>>1801650Nah, she's got cancer though lmao
No.1803036
>>1801636Sage how are you enjoying your new first minister?
No.1803050
>>1802539thank god she has cancer.
hope it gets worse
No.1803063
>>1802577>princess of Wells I thought Kate Middleton cooked meals on TV like a celebrity chef kinda thing.
How does anyone remember these fuckung people?
No.1803066
>>1802577AI generated video btw
No.1805730
>>1804427tf is going on here?
No.1806039
>>1800651>I'm not going to add the perverse fantasy of paranoia>without any real reasonWatch The Act of Killing (2012) directed by Joshua Oppenheimer or read The Jakarta Method by Vincent Bevins. Don't fool yourself and learn from history.
No.1806918
Is Galloway a grifter or nah? Seems like Corbyn won't touch him with a 10 foot pole, or is he just being a pussy?
No.1806919
>>1806918>Is Galloway a grifterto me, yeaahhhhh kinda.
No.1806929
>>1806918Grifter I think is reductive. He believes what he says, he is also just massively self interested and willing to do most things to empower himself. He isn't cynically pro-Palestine, but at the same time will hide that when talking to white working class audiences. He is a Personalist, and as such should be treated at a minimum with immense suspicion.
No.1806946
>>1806918>Seems like Corbyn won't touch him with a 10 foot pole, or is he just being a pussy?Corbyn is just being a pussy, as per usual.
No.1806951
>>1806918What is he grifting about? I think he genuinels believes anything he says. That's literally the opposite of grifting.
No.1807034
What's the direction of internet censorship in Britain.
It's quite easy to imagine that the situation in ten years will have worsened, but will we be on the verge of a new order of state enforced censorship?
No.1808569
>>1807034>What's the direction of internet censorship in Britain. Your mistake is assuming these policies have any real direction or long-term goals.
No.1808582
>>1808569Indeed, assuming that Britain in general has any real direction or long-term goals at this point is a mistake. Aside from the usual preservation of the privileged and parasitical classes and running the largest money laundering centre on the planet, everything is the realm of amateurish improvisation topped by a sordid political theatre as rancid as the usual EastEnders storylines.
No.1808594
>>1806929He definitely has some kind of bizarre charm that allows him to periodically get pussy much younger than him. He's at his fourth marriage, he has six children.
>In a 2016 New Internationalist interview, Galloway speculated that an incident of sexual abuse from a colonel, which he suffered when he was 12, caused a "lifelong fear of being gay and this led me into ostentatious, rapacious heterosexual promiscuity".>"I travelled to, and spent time in, Greece with lots of people, many of whom were women, some of whom were known carnally to me. I actually had sexual intercourse with some of the people in Greece. And if the British public and BBC Scotland think that's of interest they are welcome to broadcast it". No.1808599
>>1808594I mean he's also pretty rich and famous
No.1808602
Do people realize that with just some minimum amount of fame it's 100-1000 times more lucrative and better paid to be grifting the other way round, right?
No.1808618
>>1808599True, but let's say a woman is interested in just getting with something rich and famous. If she's driven and motivated enough, she may look for someone that's at the same time rich and famous, but not controversial as he is. There's some "bad boy" element in him and, believe me, some girls just can't resist. Obviously, if he was a poor unemployed from North Wales the pool of women potentially pursuing him would be much, much smaller. Also, he's a smooth talker and a talented speaker. It works for him in politics, I guess it also works for him in his personal life.
>>1808602This. He stands for a few things that don't make you look good in the eyes of the Bri'ish establishment. And he's been very consistent and coherent about that. He was even violently assaulted - with impunity, it should be added - for standing for Palestine. A few days back, I don't even remember what I was watching on yt, and in the suggestions I got this video by some "Jewish voices" or something like that stating in the title how he was a literal monster. Say something like that about a mainstream mp and you'll get the old bill knocking at your door within the next 24 hours.
No.1808622
>>1808618>>1808602I think that Galloway definitely believes the things he says to some extent but that doesn't mean he's not a grifter, just compare with the widely acclaimed speaker, writer, journalist, and political analyst Caleb Maupin et al. Not everyone can be on the Israeli teat, that space is too crowded, but the Russia Today griftosphere is also perfectly profitable for a few dozen people. Being anti imperialist is one thing but cozying up to Russian shills just proves you're willing to look the other way about their country for cash. As I posted above who the hell would hang out with Steven Segal that wasn't being paid for it?
No.1808729
>>1808622So he is a grifter because he supports Russia against NATO?
No.1808736
>>1808729Supporting Russia from your bedroom is one thing but when you start taking their money to go on RT then that's something else IMO.
No.1808738
>>1808622I am sorry but Steven Seagall, as cringe as he might be, still is a fucking Hollywood star and childhood hero for literally millions of people lol.
No.1808739
>>1808736What about almost getting almost murdered for openly advocating against genocide and interventionism?
No.1808745
>>1808739When did this happen to Galloway?
No.1808904
>>1808745https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/dec/11/george-galloway-attacker-jailed-respect-mpHe was kicked and beat up with blows to his head and while he was laying on the floor that left him scarred for life until constituents that asked him for a picture earlier stopped the attacker, one of which happened to be a doctor.
No.1808905
>>1808904That's one of the reasons while he is wearing hats in public.
No.1808937
>>1808935sinn fein supermajority imminent
No.1808938
>>1808622>who the hell would hang out with Steven Segalyoure definitely underestimating how many people like him and arent even aware hes considered a joke, i know a couple of them myself who would be legitemately surprised if you made fun of him
No.1808944
>>1808935Irish Unification 2024 lets fucking go boys.
No.1810318
I've seen a poster for Galloway's Workers Party in my Area.
There is plenty of critcique to be made against galloway, from grift-like and unneeded social conservatism to discrepancy and double standards with party propaganda.
However, the anti-imperialist foreign policy to get out of NATO and economic policy that endorses planning, and acting as actual opposition to labour, especially with being pro palestine, I see also positives.
So I think if, there actually is a candidate, like the poster is advertising, I'll be voting for Galloway's Workers Party, and honestly encourage people here to do so.
Maybe, with increasing numbers and members in the party, we might see a range of views and hopefully a push to unified one message propaganda, and social progressivism.
A quick google shows that WPB has more members than the CPB, 2000 to 1000, generally.
No.1810428
>>1810419Are you sure thsts victoriana? Brickwork looks fairly modern, neater than you'd see on a victoriana house or traditional cobbled road.
No.1810734
>>1810318>unneeded social conservatismThat's for the muslim vote.
>hopefully a push to unified one message propaganda, and social progressivism.The latter will lose the muslim vote.
No.1810741
>>1808935SFchads just can’t stop winning.
No.1810756
>>1808904>Masterson, who had recently converted to Judaism,always the convert who go radical
No.1810757
>>1810734This is cope, in Rochdale his campaigns culture war screeds were reserved for non-muslims.
No.1810759
>>1810318To be fair. Ones a vanguard party, the other is aspiring to be a mass party
No.1810762
>>1810760On reflection this was wrong. None of you go outside enough to warrant any observation ololol
No.1810766
>>1810762touching grass is something famously associated with M-Ls.
No.1810767
>>1810734This is stupid, this is an assumption and a steteotype that all asian people are socially conservative and not progressive, you'd be suprised although you shouldn't be, that a people, any people are not homogenous but heteterogenous in views and opinions.
And with religion, all abhramic religions although plenty of critique to be made on their massive negatives, are incrementally reforming in how they are socially practiced to be progressive, and most members of a religion find themselves in it as of birth, as a marker of identity, a label almost ethnic like, just like jews, and thus many just aren't super religious or bothered, there are many debating schools.
No.1810768
>>1810759Yeah agreed, thats fair.
No.1810776
>>1810760When is the YCL ditching the CPB for the CPGB-ML then?
No.1810781
>>1810760this is criticism for the sake of criticism unnessecary, you want a large social movement, our best bet right now is with trade union consciousness and thus to build up unionization.
No.1810783
>>1810781>build up unionizationWhat incentive is there? And with who? For what?
Look at what the average person is told to dream of in this country: wealth. It'd be like trying to wake up a coma patient.
No.1810784
>>1810783oh well i guess we might as well just give up then and become blairites because it's hard.
No.1810785
>>1810784Oh me oh my.
See, your problem isn't that you haven't got the answers, it's that you don't even understand the question.
No.1810795
>>1810784Thatcher broke the strikes; unions that retain power have been shackled to the cause of maintaining a status-quo which simply aims at the redistribution of profit and not ending the system of profit production once and for all.
Workers in Britain are indentured to the system of privileges they are afforded as a nation within the core. They may hope for change but to reconcile with the reality that it means the absolute revolution of the standing order is something that in an instant they would decry, because they would it recognise in it a change that would displace the benefits they are granted from the unequal distribution of resources within the world.
You are contending with a nation that has one foot in asset speculation, housing, and another foot in the grave, the population of its elderly.
It's absolutely laughable that party members of obscure and long-dead socialist parties in this nation tout the line: "Workers, unite". They already have, they've just decided they like capitalism better. Even if it comes at their own general immiseration.
Calling for the return of the unions is like calling for someone to turn the clock back 60 years.
No.1810796
>>1810783People may dream of wealth, but it is just that a dream.
In reality, although let's say many people want to open a business, they will be working jobs that are exploitative as all jobs are in the economic sense, pack that with cost of living and standards of living, you will see that dream for wealth is dream for better lives, and with hard impacting issues hitting people we use that as our justification to unionize whatever sector You and I are in, ultimately it us up to those in important roles to unionize many sectors and industries, the entire country.
No.1810797
>>1810795Come up with something better then, or stop crying. Also UK is becoming poorer year on year, the majority of people in this country are not enjoying that much benefit from 'a system of privileges' anymore.
No.1810799
Come up with something better or stop crying is ironically the position of Realsozialismus enjoyers.
No.1810801
>>1810795To build up the communist movement and parties we need a base to work off, people to pull in.
The movement is where it was when Marx and Engels were at before writing the manifesto, some would say at, so surely we need to unionize, surely we need an international association of the oppressed and workers.
Ultimately yeah we don't have a movement, but hey at least unipolarity is dwindling, The Global North is declining and the Global South is rising, lets see what economic conditions this creates for us and if we can take opportunity somehow.
No.1810932
>>1810734Actually the flyers Galloway sent to white voters were the one doing the most SOCONspeak. The ones he sent to muslims was just the usual "fight da zionist powah!!" third-worldist slop you'll see as a Jason Unruhue tweet.
>>1810760>They all look a certain way with unkempt or alternative haircuts, clothes that might not look or fit right and of course hundreds of badges on their lapels– proclaiming to the world everything from their trade union membership, vegan leanings, and the minority identity they’ve adoptedThis is true. But also pic related is the author of the article so…
>Try to have any form of conversation with these people and you quickly find they have none of the same interests and ambitions that most other people haveThis isnt true. Actually that description fit the eternal MLs/"Stalinists"/"Anti-woke communist" much more. These freaks always spend their time talking about completely irrelevant autistic beef from the 1920 and about how they're going to punish their ennemies (which is most normal people) when they'll become a futurr nu-KGB agent in the upcoming nu-Juche revolution. It's weirdo LARP.
>The obvious question here is why? Why does the left attract such a high proportion of these Activist Losers who exist on the fringes of society?Same reason why the far right does. It's a fringe movement.
>the left in many ways holds a position that they are the “wounded” and therefore cannot imagine themselves in a form of power against their enemiesThis is true but it's a consequence of the Abrahamic slave morality (power corrupt, being too strong is le bad, being too rich is le bad etc) that have infected the left for centuries, lots of right-wingers have it too. It's a civilizational problem.
The political radicals of the west only manages to let go off the slave morality when things have deteriorated so bad nothing matter anymore. Robespierre, the nazis, the bolsheviks and many others were products of the decay of their time, they had no other choice but to destroy all morality.
>the response is often to retreat into decrying bigotry. Or when facing state repression, to hysterically bemoan how badly the capitalist government is treating themIt's true but it's also something everyone who is not in power does. It's not left-specific.
>In the 1960’s with the rise of postmodernism>ITS DA POMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOIf you're not a postmodernist in 2024 you are not only obsolete, but also not relevant. Every succesful regime and political movement today is a postmodernist project. Truth don't exist and people have never spilled their blood or did genocides in the name of truth.
>So next time before you leave the house, perhaps reconsider the spiked leather jacket or the Che Guevara beretI fully agree. But this org also do protests with goddamn Stalin portraits in 2024, they clearly don't get the message. They worship antiquities and bad look. It's the left equivalent of a fat hick waving a swatsika.
This article have a few correct points, namely when it comes to aesthetic and presentation, but given the author and org looks and activities, they check every bad categories mentionned. It's the classic case of having your "based redpilled non-pomo" marxist org just being a book club for boomers and alienated autists. It's Infrared without Haz being funny as an excuse.
No.1810938
As much as i care for both aesthetic and appearing "normal". One must also understand that the irrelevance of the left is not due to bad aesthetic or being "freaky". Many succesfull revolutionary movement were both freaky and had lackluster aesthetic compared to their ennemies.
The French Revolutionaries did not have anything as good looking as Versailles and the Nazis had nothing as good looking as the Neuschwanstein, but they won over the old guard nonetheless.
No.1810941
>>1810932>This is true. But also pic related is the author of the article so…That's a normal cut anon….
No.1810946
>>1810941He look bad and don't makes you want to follow him in The Struggle is all.
No.1811012
Oh no, a revisionist is calling people losers! Whatever shall we do!
No.1811014
>>1810941he's a a real 4 or 40 candidate though
No.1811081
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c51j64lk2l8o
>JK Rowling in ‘arrest me’ challenge over hate crime law
>JK Rowling has challenged Scotland's new hate crime law in a series of social media posts - inviting police to arrest her if they believe she has committed an offence.
>The Harry Potter author, who lives in Edinburgh, described several transgender women as men, including convicted prisoners, trans activists and other public figures.
>She said "freedom of speech and belief" was at an end if accurate description of biological sex was outlawed.
>Earlier, Scotland's first minister Humza Yousaf said the new law would deal with a "rising tide of hatred".
>The Hate Crime and Public Order (Scotland) Act 2021 creates a new crime of "stirring up hatred" relating to age, disability, religion, sexual orientation, transgender identity or being intersex.
>The law does not protect women as a group from hatred.
>The Scottish government is expected to include this later in a separate misogyny law.
>Ms Rowling, who has long been a critic of some trans activism, posted on X, external on the day the new legislation came into force.
>She wrote: "Scottish lawmakers seem to have placed higher value on the feelings of men performing their idea of femaleness, however misogynistically or opportunistically, than on the rights and freedoms of actual women and girls."
>She added: "It is impossible to accurately describe or tackle the reality of violence and sexual violence committed against women and girls, or address the current assault on women’s and girls’ rights, unless we are allowed to call a man a man.
>"Freedom of speech and belief are at an end in Scotland if the accurate description of biological sex is deemed criminal."
>Ms Rowling highlighted some criminal cases, including transgender rapist Isla Bryson and Andrew Miller, who abducted and assaulted a girl in the Scottish Borders.
>She described them as men in a series of posts, that also included transgender campaigners and other individuals.
>Ms Rowling said: "I'm currently out of the country, but if what I've written here qualifies as an offence under the terms of the new act, I look forward to being arrested when I return to the birthplace of the Scottish Enlightenment."
>Police Scotland said it had not received any complaints over the posts.
>The maximum penalty under the new act in Scotland is a jail sentence of seven years.
>A person commits an offence if they communicate material, or behave in a manner, "that a reasonable person would consider to be threatening or abusive," with the intention of stirring up hatred based on protected characteristics.
>Stirring up hatred based on race, sexual orientation and religion was already illegal in Great Britain under the Public Order Act 1986, but that will also now fall under the new act in Scotland
>The bar for this offence is lower than for the other protected characteristics, as it also includes "insulting" behaviour.
>In England and Wales stirring up hatred over race, religion or sexual orientation by threatening behaviour remains illegal.
>In Scotland, the new act also consolidates existing laws on crimes which are "aggravated by prejudice" towards a protected characteristic.
>This can be taken into account by a judge who might issue a longer sentence or a higher fine.
>A protest group of around 200 people gathered outside the Scottish Parliament in Edinburgh on the morning the new law came into effect.
>The Scottish government said the Hate Crime Act would provide protection from hate and prejudice without stifling individual expression.
>First Minister Humza Yousaf said it was designed to deal with what he called a "rising tide of hatred" in society.
>In response to general criticism of the act, he said: "Unless your behaviour is threatening or abusive and intends to stir up hatred, then you have nothing to worry about in terms of the new offences being created." No.1811094
>>1811081 JK Rowling getting arrested wouldnt change shit because this wont change the mind of braindead faggot nonces wont realize that they are hateful and just validate her.
No.1811095
>>1811081I really don't understand why we need to criminalise hate speech it's literally just words grow the fuck up.
No.1811097
>>1811095Because they're liberals who think racism or sexism will stop being a thing when people use the right words.
No.1811102
>>1811094Look at the law you fucking moron, nobody cares if Rowling is arrested. This is an incremental but important step in the growth of police powers to curate social media.
The absolute irony is that in trying to create a more equitable world by use of law they will repress all alternative political viewpoints in order to do so. If you need this to be spelled out for you: what do you think will happen when it is used to sanction arrests on pro-Palestinian groups?
Once it is in force, there is no turning back. The courts will selectively apply the most appropriate sentences depending on the severity of the offence but this will almost certainly just be used to target the already powerless, as nobody in any position of wealth will find it in their interest to contravene the law, let alone go against the context of the ruling.
If it is ever overturned, it will be because it has catastrophically failed in its own purpose.
No.1811118
>>1811081Evil article. It's basically a PR piece for Rowling.
>>1811088>>1811102This is liberalism and defeatism. You're relegating socialism into an 'alternative political viewpoint'. Free speech is an illusion along with liberty in bourgeois republics. We already live in a police state anyway. Crying over new censorship laws is just a lib thing to do and you should be better than that if you are legitimately prepared for a revolution.
>>1811095I imagine because you haven't experienced it. Are you being sarcastic?
No.1811119
>>1811118>Are you being sarcastic?No.
No.1811120
>>1811118>You're actually NOT socialist for pointing out the hypocriscy of free speech in the liberal state.Brave and stunning move on your behalf.
No.1811121
>>1811118Also
>You're relegating socialism into an 'alternative political viewpoint'How thick are you?
No.1811125
>>1811081>The maximum penalty under the new act in Scotland is a jail sentence of seven years.lmao what?
I could even semi-understand if you fined someone with a ticket, but seven years is nuts. It's like they want give reactionaries the perfect foil to bitch about.
No.1811128
>>1811095Honestly would be fine with it if we lived under socialism and it was done to combat reactionary propaganda. But that's not the case and liberals are useless at fighting against racism anyway.
No.1811133
>>1811128>Honestly would be fine with it if we lived under socialismFor the liberation of the entire working class (except the ones who say naughty words)
No.1811139
>>1811125It's an upper limit, you can speculate about the types of rulings judges will make.
If this is taken seriously then there will be a sudden increase in the number of hate crimes being reported, to what extent is up for debate.
If the police are forced to carry out investigations into all their open cases for convictions then the law will be seen as a success in curbing hate speech, but the reality is really that it will just drive its expression into unmoderated spaces.
You can see the perfect storm coming: policy makers will simply seek to crackdown on access to these. Labour has already tried to propose a completely backwards motion banning VPN usage in order to augment the powers of the OFCOM department created by the conservatives for holding social media monopolies to account, claiming that it doesn't go far enough.
There's no historical certainty, but the general trend by progressives to clamp down on freedom of expression under the guise of targetting extremist language simply beckons into inevitability the establishment of at very least some form of soft-censorship within Britain.
The most apt comparison is that it will be like a modern day blasphemy law. The true test of strength is whether they do really arrest Rowling. If the enforcement of this bill is soft to the bite, none of this may happen. But literally all it will take is a liberal-aligned governemnt stupid enough.
No.1811145
>>1811133>except the ones who say naughty wordsIt would have to be provable that they were doing it for reactionary propagandistic purposes or extreme cases of continual targeted harassment, but yes.
No.1811152
>>1811145How many times can I say the n-word before getting shot?
No.1811156
>>1811152You will need to exchange your labour tokens for an N-word pass, at which point you will be entitled to one valid n-word for the duration of the ticket's validity.
All unauthorised n-word usage will be met with forced labour.
No.1811159
>>1811152depends on the context if the state gets involved, but there would also be "fighting words" laws where you might get your ass kicked depending where you say it and how, and this would also be permissible for the one doing the ass kicking.
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>>1811156>>1811159Both of these are incredible posts in their own right.
No.1811171
>>1811081>>1811081Ideally she'd get the fucking gulag
No.1811392
>>1811095Because 30 or so years ago people like JKR decided that being racist/homophobic/misogynistic/islamphobic was basically Radical Hitlerism and pushed hard for said opinions to be silenced/banned/imprisoned even in the context of unconvenient scientific researches.
Now that the new kids on the block, trans people, also try to get a piece of the inclusivity pie (why wouldnt they?), it's creators suddenly have a problem with it, they do not like to share.
I just hope trans people will see throught the farce that are these hate speech laws and instead get on the total free speech train. Because really the only thing these laws ever did was to protect weird decrepit hags like Rowling, islamic terrorists and fags, it never protected trans peoples as the article
>>1811081 points out.
No.1811459
>>1811392This isn't your personal soap opera. The fact that some of you are caught up in the logic of "BaD wOmAn BaD!" is pathetic.
No.1811573
>>1811392>I just hope trans people will see throught the farce that are these hate speech laws and instead get on the total free speech train. That's optimistic.
No.1811579
I think most here are in agreement that the world would be a better place if the royal family got beheaded
No.1811593
>>1811579Dr. Cockshot says the royals are increasing their power
No.1812382
>>1812188Fickle and skin deep.
This is the legacy of the anti Iraq-war protests. The price of change outweighs that for which there is popular support. If they were not comfortable with letting Netanyahu loose then perhaps there should have been some form of political oversight demanded by the elctorate for the last 70 years in its relations with Israel.
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BREAKING: Officials working in the Department for Business and Trade have threatened to stop working over UK arms sales to Israelhttps://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1775924481430520016Their union, PCS, is backing them. We could get a strike for Palestine famrades.
No.1813112
>>1812995Woah! PCS is based if they actually go through with this!
No.1813122
>>1813113based beyond belief
No.1815549
>>1813119Desperation at the organisational level and greed at the individual level.
It seems that every business on our high street opposes pedestrianisation. They have posters in the windows, protests every so often, and of course the pedestrianisation argument has been turned into a party political battle, with Cons opposing it. Therefore, "Blue Owned" looks like a reality with business owners entering the culture war from this angle.
No.1815574
>>1815570What a weather vane of a ukraine-before-UK local councillor.
No.1815609
>>1815570You will lick the boot and you will love it.
No.1815960
>>1811171unironically this. if they arrest this dumb slag, i will personally campaign for the snp in every election for the next decade, i don't even care any more
>muh freeze peach precedentsdont care! this place is fucked anyway
No.1816025
>>1815960>i will personally campaign for the snp in every election for the next decadeRealistically you were going to do that anyway.
No.1816043
>>1816025nah, i was going to sit on my arse and do nothing while considering creative ways in which to spoil my vote. it's all on humza now to decide my future
No.1818790
Just learnt about a new group called the "Revolutionary Communist Party", founded about a month ago and sticking posters in most major UK city centres.
I looked them up. It's just the relaunch of Socialist Appeal, which is the British section of the IMT.
They're Trotskyites through and through, to put it gently. And exceptionally retarded for Trotskyites at that.
They go around denouncing every past socialist state and every other Communist party as being not *real* Socialism or Communists.
I decided to click on one of their articles, the page about their manifesto, where rather than talk about policies in any detail, the article talked largely about how the populist far right isn't a problem in the world nor will it be in future because according to their analysis from their little student bubble, all young people are uniformly left wing, and apparently right wingers can't take power or influence policies unless the majority of students support them.
Nevermind people like Trump and Milei won elections, never mind the influence Reform has on Tory policy.
It seems to the RCP that it simply isn't an issue that's real or that can effect society.
That's the level of idiocy we're dealing with "don't worry about right wingers, they don't actually pose a threat, instead get mad about how all the other leftists aren't real commies but are secretly evil fakers".
Also it seems they believe in both reform and revolution, meaning they believe neither will be adequate alone to cause societal change. Given they believe reform can prove effective, and on other statements, it seems like they might stand a few candidates in the general election if they can organise themselves in time.
No.1818792
>>1818790Regardless of whether they might have some bad takes, I approve of anyone that actually goes out and puts up posters to make our presence known.
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>>1816043>>1811081
>She wrote: "Scottish lawmakers seem to have placed higher value on the feelings of men performing their idea of femaleness, however misogynistically or opportunistically, than on the rights and freedoms of actual women and girls.">they value the feelings of men more than the feelings of womenLol quiet part out loud Rowling. Fucking so many feminists their only ideology is girls rule boys drool. Pretty sure the hate crime bill protects gay men as well.
>She wrote: "Scottish lawmakers seem to have placed higher value on the feelings of men performing sexual acts on men, than on the rights and freedoms of actual women and girls." No.1818804
>>1818792It's good people go out and do things, it's good normal people are getting made aware of Socialist thought in general.
I just worry when the mouthpiece in question also spends more time bashing other leftist organisations, trying to argue Trotsky was right about everything, or if their personal lack of experience with the very real threat the far right poses leads them to outright deny it.
Get people thinking, good. Misinform people about what Communism is, getting them following a distorted version of it, not so good.
Then again it's easier to deal with someone who is a leftist but kinda retarded than with someone who isn't a leftist at all, or who doesn't know what socialism even means.
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>>1818792Eh I mean their entire strategy inherently assumes any consumer of propaganda is a Communist; which is a weird honestly. They arent establishing the material base for a communist movement, just hoping that one already exists that is large enough to tap into.
At least when the IMT was a part of Labour they had a unique function within our body politic, now it is just trying to be the same thing as the SWP or SP.
Speaking of which, how the fuck do SP and TUSC have enough people to run for so many councils? I thought the unions pulled funding and shit.
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>>1818790I've been paying more attention to the IMT since they announced their rebrand, am considering attending their launch conference, they seem cool.
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>>1806951Salesmen always believe everything they say. "True Belief" counts for very little - if you track his actions over the last few years its clear his priority has been to get elected. Whether that's as the multicultural anti-war candidate, the Scottish Unionist candidate, the True Real Working Class candidate, or the Palestine candidate is secondary to the all important matter of being the winning candidate.
He's got a track record of truly believing in all those things as a Labour MP alone, but the strategic emphasis in each case makes it clear that he's acting less in service of a cause and more in service of himself - the Scottish Unionist jaunt had no working class or multicultural credentials and started infighting about foreign policy and actively (though minorly) undermined the cause it aimed to support by eating up anti-SNP votes and spitting out zero seats, while Galloway himself tried to boost Alex Salmond's chances of getting into debates in the hopes that it'd drag him in too, even though the net effect would be to boost pro-independence support since Salmond's grift party had far more of a base than Galloway's. The pivot between RESPECT and the early-post-Corbyn WPB was also deeply inelegant.
>>1808602You want to target a niche. Every PPE cunt wants to be a Laberaldemoservative MP, and if you've the fortune to be born north of Berwick you can also hop into the SNP for an easy ride. If you're in Galloway's position, the major party door closed the moment he was thrown out of Labour, but that gave him a national profile. As a minor celebrity known for being anti Iraq war and pro-Arab, you've only really got fringe left-wing pathways open to you.
Think by parallel to Alex Salmond: theoretically, ideologically, he's an ideal leader of the SNP. there's just one problem: he was already leader of the SNP, he stood down as quite a well liked leader of the SNP. Later on, he was publicly disgraced for his conduct and had to find a new means of supporting himself. Suddenly, to everyone's shock, he's running a poltical party that's more or less the SNP for people on the fringe of the independence movement. It would be implausible to suggest that the party's ideology was made up as the easiest path to get into parliament
period, but it's definitely the easiest way for
Alex Salmond to get into parliament again after burning his bridges with the SNP, which makes it a clear grift.
(Coincidentally, as well as one-man-band political parties both Galloway and Salmond also have their own little shows starring them.
At least Galloway's never been charged with sexual assault, I suppose)
>>1811088Precedent doesn't really exist.
>>1811095Because it's not just words, it's the act of pissing somebody off.
You can sit at home saying the N-word all you like if you live out in a cottage in Shetland where nobody hears you. That may officially be illegal, but as a practical matter nobody can hear you - nobody can report you! But if you do it in a London flat made out of paper, the problem isn't that you're "saying words", it's that everyone else can hear you and they think you're a cunt.
Defences of hate speech legislation often rest on the idea of there being some actual moral wrong incurred, rather than being more like the social version of banning jaywalking: The legislature has decided behavour is annoying, and if you annoy someone, you might get bonked for it. If you jaywalk when nobody sees it, no matter the law, you will not be prosecuted.
(Ironically, I'm anti-anti-jaywalking legislation. I'm just very pro- shutting people the fuck up.)
>>1811139There is always soft-censorship in any community. It is a human universal. What hate speech law really speaks to is not how sensitive we are, but how legalistic we are - in the old days ostracism for violating social norms could be conducted by the local community and a bit of public shaming. Nowadays, in alienated times, it's better to lawyer up.
The blasphemy law comparison is apt, but then if you went out on the streets in the Soviet Union preaching Friedmanite doctorines in the 1970s you'd also have a bad time. (One hopes you'd have got more of a kicking for the tedious preaching than for the ideological content of the sermon.)
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>>1821747>Salesmen always believe everything they say. "True Belief" counts for very little - if you track his actions over the last few years its clear his priority has been to get elected. Whether that's as the multicultural anti-war candidate, the Scottish Unionist candidate, the True Real Working Class candidate, or the Palestine candidate is secondary to the all important matter of being the winning candidate.
>He is grifting because he believes in what he says and also he tries to win elections.I am really sorry but I really fail to see where the grift is happening here. Can you please elaborate further? Those things alone. still don't constitute grifting. Grifting would be if he started leveraging his notoriety to give self-help courses or use his office to secure a lobby or media gig while leaving his followers into the dust.
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>>1821763The overall pattern of his behaviour demonstrates that winning elections and being in the public eye is the
end he is aiming for, not the means of achieving wider ideological aims. That is the grift - the only party Galloway has left that didn't collapse immediately is Labour. Some people sell self-help books, some sell themselves as media personalities (or perhaps talk show hosts…), and some people sell you on voting for them. He doesn't necessarily want the shirts off his supporters backs - but he does want to continue living the way he's used to as a figure in the public eye. Can you imagine him packing up, getting a 9-5 job and showing up to branch meetings as an ordinary member of someone else's political party after all these years chasing byelections?
If you think "hey, this applies to most Labour MPs too", you're right! It's just that most of them are forgettable cannon fodder for a big organisation that props them up, while Galloway has to do all his own marketing - which makes it more obvious when he abruptly changes tack. Labour itself has ideological aims, but these are often miles away from the purported aims of Labour's MPs.
>>1821769a better reply would've been mocking the fact that I'm supposedly "pro-shutting-the-fuck-up" yet wrote the longest post in the thread.
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>>1822603>we must do all we can to prevent a wider regional war That is literally the challenge as of now. If they cannot contain this war it will become a sheer drop.
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>>1822603>Israel airstrikes Iranian consulate in Syria I sleep
>Iran retaliated by drone striking IsraelReal shit
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did you hear of this?
https://jacobin.com/2024/04/starmer-labour-anonyvoter-scandal-democracy>On March 18, the Metropolitan Police’s cybercrimes unit announced it had launched an investigation into the Labour Party’s selection process for the new seat of Croydon East. The contest had been suspended following allegations that members’ details had been tampered with — allegations since confirmed by party sources. Joel Bodmer, a candidate on the party’s right, subsequently withdrew before the contest recommenced.>The scandal in Croydon was followed by a jaw-dropping report in the Telegraph suggesting that Labour’s parliamentary selections may have been systematically rigged using Anonyvoter. Anonyvoter is the online voting software used by local Labour Party branches to choose their candidates for the next election.>Leading those complaints is Sam Tarry, the MP for Ilford South and a former shadow minister sacked by Keir Starmer for appearing on a picket line. Tarry, who was deselected in October in favor of a candidate from the party’s right, has since submitted an official complaint to Labour. He alleges tampering with membership lists, raises concerns that the Anonyvoter system was misused in his deselection, and has even threatened legal action against the party.>He isn’t alone. Beth Winter, the socialist MP for Cynon Valley, narrowly lost a reselection battle to a Starmerite shadow minister in June in highly controversial circumstances. Once again, Anonyvoter and alleged membership list tampering featured prominently in complaints. Remarkably, in both cases, Tarry and Winter were winning their selection battles (via hustings and postal votes, respectively) — until Anonyvoter came into play. No.1826540
The IMT have said that their new/reformed British wing, the Revolutionary Communist Party, will be registering as a political party in May, meaning they'll aim to be standing candidates for the general election I presume.
Looking at the Electoral Commission website it seems like they haven't applied yet, so by May they means the month that they'll first submit their application, not the month they are accepted as a party. Which means they're cutting it pretty tight in terms of registering in time.
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Leninhat, what is the communist party's line on the tory government banning fags and smoking? surely it is one of the few proletarian pleasures that the bourgeois are trying to eradicate? it also helps with organisation and class consciousness. I say this as a non smoker.
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>>1825274Any election that uses electronic means of counting should be treated as invalid.
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It was confirmed that the photo is very heavily edited, and if you take a deeper look at it, it is a pretty badly done work. Actually, the photo hides her wheelchair. They are lying to us on even such mundane things and it is very obvious
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>>1826988>Vile degeneratesFirst they came for the coomers, and I did not speak out…
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>>1826988Fuehrer dubs confirm rishi is the true hitlerite option on the ballot
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>>1827074They gave you enough bread and the
right kind too. :') Now where are the circuses?
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>>1827089That comes later when i pick up some slag
Or have a wank
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>>1827074people who hate british food are bourgeois
t. person who was lucky enough to go on a school trip one time to the UK and enjoyed a breakfast from a pub
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>>1827127A full english breakfast is the feast of kings!
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>>1827127>people who hate british food are bourgeoisYeah. It's mostly self-hating middle-class libs and BAMEs who have this weird obsession with shitting on British food.
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>>1827127Hating slop is based and revolutionary.
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>>1827369>>1827369>It's mostly self-hating middle-class libs and BAMEs who have this weird obsession with shitting on British food.sus characterizations you're making there. People shit on British food becasue it's industrialized hydrogenated sugarslop full of nitrites. I'll eat a full english that isn't that anytime.
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>>1827378>People shit on British food becasue it's industrialized hydrogenated sugarslop full of nitrites.To be fair, that's more a result of capitalism than a purely British phenomenon. Shitty industrial food hurled out by agroindustry metastasized in the entire world and come in various fake local flavors.
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Ive read that the memes about British food is an old stereotype that came about because they continued to ration food until well after WW2 ended
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I always took it that by "bad" they actually mean unsophisticated, dunno why everyone else in history had the time and resources to ponce about with their food but apparently a beef wellington was the absolute limit for historic Brits.
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https://consortiumnews.com/2024/04/15/revolt-in-northern-england-no-ceasefire-no-vote/
>There is a rebellion brewing in England, particularly in the north, where voters are fed up with the similar, repressive policies of both Labour and Conservative Parties, in particular when it comes to Gaza.
>This movement is being spearheaded by a surge of independent candidates for local council elections slated for May 2, and by George Galloway’s new Workers’ Party of Britain. Galloway became the first member of the party to be elected to Parliament in February representing Rochdale, outside Manchester.
>Former British diplomat Craig Murray is now standing for Parliament in Blackburn with the Workers’ Party, and Andrew Feinstein, who worked closely with Nelson Mandela in South Africa, is challenging Labour leader Keir Starmer for his seat in Holborn and St. Pancras in London as an independent in the general election to be called later this year.
>The independents and Workers’ Party came together in Blackburn on Saturday to tell both major parties there’s a new movement in the land and it’s gathering force.
>Below are Parts One and Two of the conference, followed by individual videos of addresses by George Galloway, Craig Murray and Andrew Feinstein. Speakers list at the end.Britsters, we are SO back.
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Out of interest, has George Galloway actually done anything of note since becoming MP of Rochdale?
>>1827411Really need the coordination of all left wing parties to focus all resources on individual candidates in a select few constituencies. What is the point if support is spread thin and no one gets elected?
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>>1827381>To be fair, that's more a result of capitalism than a purely British phenomenon.Seems like a very Anglo phenomenon. Many countries know the value of fresh unprocessed food and make the effort get it every day, even objectively poorer working class communities in places like Portugal . Not in England. It's like that other poster thinking it's BAME or posh or self hating or whatever.
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>>1827618I mean, from what I've seen the criticism isn't that everyone's eating tinned spaghetti hoops, but rather the actual traditional dishes that you can cook freshly are attacked as bad.
Again, I think just because our traditional dishes seem to lack the "sophistication" of other cuisines which ironically can be as simple as just having a kind of seasoning not native to this part of the world. For example, not much native to this country is spicy and therefore few of our traditional dishes are spicy, but the assumption is therefore made that white people just can't handle the spice and I guess people from nations that do traditionally eat spicy foods feel that this is something to pat themselves on the back for?
Overall cuisines are a really fucking dumb thing to derive a sense of superiority or inferiority from, people should just eat whatever they like.
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>>1827789White British people can't handle the spice*
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>>1827792i used to be a very picky eater and i thought this meme was funny, then i started eating more and now it bothers me because my spice tolerance level is high but it just doesn't impress me. it feels like a boring gimmick that people overhype. "food that makes your mouth a bit tingly" wow, i'll file that right below "bright flashing lights and loud noises" in things that are really, really impressive… to a fucking child.
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>>1827794The stereotype is an absolute menace for some people's self-esteem, sitting in a curry house and your mate's eyes and nose are absolutely streaming down his red face with a pained expression and it's like Gary, mate, you don't have to get a vindaloo every time to prove anything to anyone. Absolutely no shame in ordering something you can actually taste.
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>>1827802The American attempt does look tragic tbf, I think the irony of Americans commenting on British food being bad is seeing them trying to cook while not following a specific recipe on Instagram. Maybe they're just fucking with the rest of the world, because you'd have to be insane to think crushed up Pringles can be a stand-in for mashed potatoes, or that an entire block of cheese without being grated or sliced but covered in mashed up Doritos and dumped in an air fryer is cookery.
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>>1827127Having good taste is objectively proletarian so no, fuck British food.
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>>1827824contradictory statements
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>>1826988Honestly, it is needed by any government tbh.
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>>1827826t. Only tasted British food
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>>1827831nah i'm just not a snob. my favourite foods aren't british, but most british food is unpretentious but fine. (which naturally means it's horrible to those who've got to make what they input so they can output shit into a fashion statement.)
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>>1827855It's almost like it was a troll video
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>>1827824British food is p good, cope.
This is the part where you cope and seethe about how most of it doesn't count because they were STOLEN by IMPERIALISM which is BAD! and WRONG!
In short, cry more.
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>>1827855what if they add less sugar than it comes in the sugared version
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>>1828983How did angloids become this cucked
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>>1829039By hating poor people so much that everyone desperately tries to prove to themselves they're not one of the poors by voting like cunts.
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>>1828983Imagine if the first sentence was like this:
>U.K. Prime Minister Rishi Sunak called for an end to Britain.A man can dream.
No.1829875
>>1828983>reruns exact same austerity script that was rolled out post 2008>Labour did it too>cost 100,000 excess deathswe deserve another 100,000 if we don't revolt
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>>1830057You vill not leev ze prison island
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>>1828983he is just throwing bombs out before he leaves office.
banned deepfakes, banned smoking, banned mentally ill people
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>>1830057thank god I have birthright irish citizenship
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>>1829875Britain deserves a lot more deaths for
2019.
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Haven't seen lelninhat posting of late, and then I found this;
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/british-traitor-fighting-for-putin-says-he-has-been-given-russian-citizenship/ar-AA1nnPfV>A British traitor who is fighting against Ukraine claims he has been granted Russian citizenship by Vladimir Putin.>Aiden Minnis, 37 from Chippenham, posted a video showing his Russian passport, thought to be given to him as he’s a ‘useful propaganda stooge’.>Minnis bragged: ‘I have a Russian passport. I am now Russian. I am relieved because now I know I am safe, safe from prosecution in the UK, safe from false and bogus charges just because I want to come and fight for Russia and fight for a just cause and the people of Donbas.’>But the ‘passport’ Minnis showed off actually only denotes citizenship and is not valid for foreign travel – and wouldn’t save him from prosecution and jail in Britain nor extradition to the UK if he travels to the West. >He earlier vowed to continue putting slain Ukrainians and English mercenaries ‘in wooden boxes’.>‘I reiterate that I condemn my country or origin. I hate it for what they have done to the people of Donbas, to Russia, and what they continue to do. And I am looking forward to starting a new life….’ No.1833151
>>1831124>A traitor to *Britain* for working against *Ukraine*How does that work?
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>>1831124>Haven't seen lelninhat posting of lateCause i killed him.
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Sunak: We will put the UK defence industry on a war footing
https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/pm-sunak-we-will-put-uk-defence-industry-war-footing-2024-04-23/Warsaw, April 23 (Reuters) - Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said on Tuesday he would put the British defence industry on a war footing, announcing 10 billion pounds ($12.43 billion) of extra long-term funding for munitions in light of the war in Ukraine.
"We will put the UK's own defence industry on a war footing. One of the central lessons of the war in Ukraine is that we need deeper stockpiles of munitions and for industry to be able to replenish them more quickly," Sunak said at a press conference in Poland alongside NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg.
Earlier Sunak had warned of the increasing threat to global security but added: "We must not overstate the danger. We're not on the brink of war, and nor do we seek it."
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>>1834338poor horse I hope it is ok now :(
No.1834382
>>1834338is that the horsie's blood or some
creature else's?
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>>1834382It's the horse's, it ploughed into a parked car and seemingly cut itself on the broken windows
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>>1834370>Ireland ranks above UK, France and JapanLmao imagine actually believing these meme statistics.
No.1834464
>>1834459it's per capita dipshit. ireland is wealthy-ish, they're a popular tax haven
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>>1834464It's median income ppp.
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>>1834464Yeah and do you seriously believe the average person is earning $30,000/year in a country whose only function is to launder money?
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>>1834479It's PPP adjusted.
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Anyone else got some banger NHS stories?
>5 years ago or so I needed surgery on the NHS for organ problems
>after 1 year on the waiting list finally get told it's time for me to get an appointment
>get told the NHS can't treat me so the NHS will pay for some private sector surgeon to treat my condition an additional 1 year later
>have to travel all the way to London for surgery (I live in the North), now after waiting 2 years for treatment
>all seems well at first after the surgery
>after a while start developing significant constant chronic pain inside my body where I had the op
>eventually get sick of it, it becomes unbearable
>do the 8 am rush to get an appointment at my doctors about my pain
>after 3 or 4 GP appointments i finally get referred to a specialist
>specialist department says they won't treat me because my problems come from a private surgeon THAT THE NHS OUTSOURCED ME TO AGAINST ANY CHOICE I HAD
>they tell me to go find the original private surgeon and ask him to fix whatever problem I have
>he's retired and living in abroad now + I don't have the money for private treatment even if I used all my savings and went to the private clinic he worked at
>NHS are adamant i'm not their problem because they outsourced my treatment to a private surgeon, refuse to do anything besides saying I need to personally contact that private sector surgeon I saw years ago even though I was sent to him BY THE NHS
it's so fucked up its unreal. im still fighting the system to try to get seen by somebody. the NHS cant just refuse to help me because they outsourced my treatment in the past. I wont let them.
meanwhile im left in constant chronic pain while i can't even get on a waiting list to get help for now.
i can only imagine cases like this will increase in quantity as privitisation of the NHS increases. it's a total disaster unfolding as we speak that will only escelate.
send the patients to do a wild goose chase between various different NHS and private services, each sending you in a circle telling you it's the other side who should treat your condition
of course Wes Streeting that fucking Labour party DOGTURD of a politician has said he wants increased use of the private sector to do surgeries
and in the odd case where surgeries have long term problems years down the line like for me, there will then be nobody accountable or willing to help those patients
/vent
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>>1834636This is fucking incredible and sounds highly illegal wtf.
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>>1834636Jesus christ man I hope you find a solution.
The only issue I've had is with the mental health services being unavailable when they're meant to be and psychiatrists not following up apapointments. Also getting your prescription now is a massive ball ache as GPs no longer just give you the leaflet, it has to be sent through email to a pharmacist which can take several days.
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Sadiq Khan: I'm so glad we have reclaimed St George's flag from the far-right"England is a nation small in size but grand in vision. On this day of celebration, it is an opportunity for people to come together and mark with joy our country’s traditions, culture and history.
The England I know and love is a country where we are proud of our heritage and our heroes. Where we look after one another, especially in times of crisis. Where we cheer each other’s triumphs. And where we take pride in remembering all that we have achieved. We are a nation which gave birth to parliamentary democracy. One of our proudest daughters pioneered computer science, one of our proudest sons invented the World Wide Web. We are responsible for giving the world the words of Shakespeare and Jane Austen, and the songs of The Beatles, Amy Winehouse and Stormzy.
For me, the greatest feature of our country is the limitless opportunities it affords its people. This country gave me – the son of a bus driver and seamstress – the chance to go from a south London council estate to being Mayor of the greatest city in the world. Serving as Mayor of our nation’s capital is a profound honour and privilege because it is a chance to support Londoners to meet their potential, just as I was supported throughout my life.
As well as celebrating our successes, St George’s Day is often a time when we discuss what it means to be English. History shows it is not always easy to define. Many will recall the reductive, cruel Tebbit test – coined by the former Tory MP and Cabinet Minister – which sought to determine the strength of allegiance of all South Asian and Caribbean immigrants and their children by which cricket team they cheered. It is of course entirely foolish to believe that a person’s loyalty to our nation can be measured by the feelings invoked by a badge on a set of cricket whites. It is measured by a commitment to protect our democracy and the rule of law, to preserve our institutions and to uphold shared values like respect for others, equality and justice.
One of the many great principles underpinning our country is that we can have multiple identities and are not subjected to a bogus loyalty test, where we are forced to choose between our flag and our family history, our home or our heritage. I am a proud son of Tooting, I am proud to be a Londoner, English, British, of Pakistani ethnic origin and Asian heritage, European and of Islamic faith. There is no contradiction between any of those. And no tension between patriotism and pluralism.
At a time when forces are trying to divide us and tear at our social fabric, we must reject those who claim to be patriots by talking down our country and trying to narrow what it means to be English as a way of excluding others. There is nothing more patriotic than wanting your country to be better. And a true patriot is someone who pushes it to be so. Patriotism can be seen in our nurses who care for the sick, and in the churches, synagogues, temples, gurdwaras and mosques that have fed their communities and provided comfort during the cost-of-living crisis. It can be seen in those who serve in our Armed Forces, in business owners who provide the dignity of a job and a living, and in the countless, everyday acts of kindness, decency and solidarity.
I was raised to be proud of being British – and I have been for as long as I can remember. But the enormous pride I now feel in being English took longer to develop. When I was growing up, the St George’s flag was associated with the far right. But for me that changed when I witnessed England famously demolish the Dutch at Euro 96. After the final whistle, tens of thousands waved the red cross at Wembley and sang of football’s return home. It was pure ecstasy. In that very moment it was as if the St George’s flag had been transformed into a symbol of national unity.
As we commemorate our national patron Saint – and as we approach another Euros – let us do so by flying our flag with pride. Let us honour all our timeless traditions, except the one about underachieving in football tournaments on foreign soil! And let us stay true to our values by channelling that famous English spirit, and by cherishing and celebrating our diversity.
From my family to yours, Happy St George’s Day."
https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/st-georges-day-flag-sadiq-khan-england-b1153253.html No.1834718
>>1834696Anon got his fucking internal organs backdoor-privatised and this mayor faggot is soying over a flag he probably got from China with an American doing the resell.
Fucked. No shame.
No.1836172
Is nobody excited for the collapse of the Scottish government?
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>>1836172I imagine sage is coping and roping hard right now.
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I also didn't see the soc-dem poster for a while. I think he succumbed to an embarrassing accident in his wardrobe while having a wank. 😭
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Got in a fight with a security guard cunt today because he started stealing our shopping from my partner that I payed for pretending she stole it, leading to one of those fistfight altercations you see on every highstreet down these country.
These cunts will charge you for the food y ou need to work and steal it from you with the other hand.
Perfect summation of everything in this country IMO. Shameful place.
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https://www.theguardian.com/music/2024/apr/25/shocking-truth-money-bands-make-on-tour-taylor-swift
>For this article, the Guardian has seen 12 tour budget sheets for various bands and artists varying from up-and-comers to firmly established and successful acts, all of whom regularly undertake headline tours across the UK in venues ranging from 150 to 2,500 capacity. Almost all of these result in losses. Understandably, most shared their balance sheets on the condition of anonymity. One four-piece indie band, whose last two albums went Top 10 in the UK charts, reported a loss of £2,885 from a six-day UK tour. The only tour that shows anything resembling healthy profit was a 29-date tour for a solo artist who came away with £6,550. Not bad going for a month’s work but, as Martin points out, ‘that’s then his touring done for the next six months. So it’s not enough money…. The question is: who else will be able to afford to pursue music as a hobby? ‘It depresses me how many middle and upper class people there are in the music industry,’ says manager Potts. ‘Because the working class just can’t afford to fork out £150 a day for van hire. The only artists doing that are people who have deeper pockets and can afford to take the hit.' Unique IPs: 134