/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

They'd like to overturn both the sexual and civil rights revolution of the 1960s and what's left of the New Deal that preceded it while simultaneously calling themselves punk rockers and the reincarnation of labor Democrats.

>>1793067

whats hilarious about the "conservatism is the new counterculture" is that its really just a cope for being unpopular. Its not like conservatism is some underground music movement that no ones ever heard before like Punk rock or house/techno in the 80s/90s. It was already known by the majority and was simply rejected. It's not a counterculture, its more like a subculture than anything, similar to how emo kids were a distinct subgroup in the 2000s with their own music and fashion but disdained by everyone else. Or furries today.

>>1793091
"conservatism" in current year can be subversive since it boils down to getting based black guys to vote for trump and giving transhumanists AR-15s. If "demoncrats are the real racists" then republicans become the "real antiracists" or w/e until we have a 56% magacommunism cult like we basically already have.

Who is thrilled about that Rockefeller sponsored party in a time when like half of zoomers are incels. If they want to cull people then implement a one child policy not the cuck cage.

>>1793036
It's the most recent number. That's it really.

Stupid people like to boil history down to names, dates, and events, because it's easy. Obviously, the reality is that everything in history happens because of the larger context surrounding it. Individual people and actions can steer the specifics, but the broad strokes are way beyond any individual's control.

The social changes of the 1960s were a direct continuation of the social changes that had been occurring for at least a century prior, and were shaped in large part by changes in living conditions. It's something that, in one form or another, would've happened no matter what, and viewed in the larger context of history, wasn't even that radical of a change.

>>1793651
plus fundamentalist christianity was already destroyed in the 1920s due to urbanization and the scopes trial

>>1793651
>Stupid people like to boil history down to names, dates, and events
Liberals really think you can "turn back the clock".

60s is an internal burger meme, the spook about muh civil rights and muh liberation, and of course muh sexual revolution and other buzz, in reality 60s were the time of unimpended US imperialism, anticommunism and cia coups all over the world. Only thing it serve is to give an illusion of progress and change to brainwashed burger masses and employ the progressive crowd into the electoral cycles of deep state front end.

reactionaries are always looking back into the pat for the date the 'rot' set in. before this it was the French Revolution when all the 'evil' started. or maybe when Martin Luther nailed his thesis to the door.

>>1830888
Famous reactionary Matt Christman

>>1793036
It really boils down to authoritarian tendencies.
They see the side effects of giving people the idea that freedom comes with no responsibilities or consequences, and then when those same people get addicted or get STDs or end up with a single family household, thy demand the government pay up.
So what is their solution? Is it to destroy the state and bring it back to societal self-maintenance?
No, they want the state to outlaw shit.

They get the core argument right, that people are being "rewarded" for making bad decisions, but their solutions are always to impede on individual freedoms rather than preach morality and themselves help those in need as a society.

The founding fathers were all about how being virtuous is the core of a free republic. Some examples:
>George Washington
>“Virtue or morality is a necessary spring of popular government,”
>“Human rights can only be assured among a virtuous people.”

>John Adams
>“Public virtue cannot exist in a Nation without private Virtue, and public Virtue is the only Foundation of Republics.”

>Benjamin Franklin
>“Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom.”

>James Madison
>“To suppose that any form of government will secure liberty or happiness without any virtue in the people, is a chimerical [imaginary] idea.”

>Thomas Jefferson
>“No government can continue good but under the control of the people; and … their minds are to be informed by education what is right and what wrong; to be encouraged in habits of virtue and to be deterred from those of vice … These are the inculcations necessary to render the people a sure basis for the structure and order of government.”

But conservatives rarely practice what they preach.
They're quick to espouse their beliefs but slow to live by them, clinging to doctrine as a shield of superiority.

>>1793091
The concept of natives resisting a colonizing ideology meets w/ "grifters gonna grift" & "subversives gonna subvert". One could go on about NPC's, impressionable youths, organized religions, psychophysiology, etc

>>1831065
meds

ameriKKKan thread

>>1830882
yeah, this such an ameriKKKan thread. the 60's fucking sucked here in Brazil, the USA supported a military coup and and we STILL haven't recovered from that (Bolsonaro government and its consequences…)

>>1793091

a lot of the people who have heard of emo and furries etc have also heard of punk; a large portion of them probably decided it wasn't for them and didn't participate so it's not a very good analogy. also ignoring that emo came out of punk.

i for one would say that conservatives are somewhat correct in saying they are the new punk rock. punk wasn't just Crass, it was also a lot of shit like Jim Goad writing pro-rape zines.