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 No.1794616

What is the general consensus on Wikispooks? I don't see it being talked about that often on here.

I think it's a good source for normalfags but gives too much credit to right wingers and neo nazis by treating them like innocent journalists that are snuffed by the big evil gov/corps. Also Independent Journalism thread.

 No.1794627

Undialectical unmaterialist glowslop.

 No.1794637

>>1794627
3 words

 No.1794642

>>1794616
another waste of time, and another conspiracytard website for morons who want a person to blame rather than capital itself.

petty bourgeois dipshits love to delude themselves into thinking that weaving together some vast evil conspiracy by magic necrons is some expression of a real struggle because they don't have actual jobs, and don't participate in the actual class struggle, and so, could never come to terms with the fact that the "final enemy" is a non-human, undead economic monstrosity known as capital, and needs no cultish maneuverings for its circuit to keep running.

 No.1794644

>>1794642
<another waste of time, and another conspiracytard website for morons who want a person to blame rather than capital itself.
/fred

 No.1794653

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>>1794616
>Wikispooks
>le Independent Journalism
No. There is only one good wiki on this Internet and its name is Psychonautwiki DOT Org.

 No.1794664

>Independent Journalism
Doesn't exist and will never exist.

 No.1794670

>>1794664
Elaborate. Because I disagree.

 No.1794677

>>1794664
You have too abstract of a concept of journalism.

 No.1794699

>>1794664
What do you mean? Are you saying it's all fake bullshit?

 No.1794703

You are always dependent on society. I'm a big Edward Snowden fan, but there is a simple reason, why he can't allow to critizise Putin. This is why there can't be independent journalism. Never and nowhere.

 No.1794709

>>1794664
>Journalism
Whatever we think the word means in current year, the Grayzone and Max Blumenthal are sources of it relevant to /leftypol/.
>>1794703
>he can't allow to critizise Putin
Obviously. Which is why he doesn't report on Russia. He's a stellar source on the western security state. Is this your first time considering geopolitics?

 No.1794710

>>1794670
There's no independent thought to begin with.

 No.1794716

>>1794664
uygha if I got out with a fedora and trenchcoat like an old timey journalist and start interviewing schizophrenic homeless people in my city that's independent

 No.1794717

>>1794710
Independent is an economic descriptor, not a philosophical one. Independents are petbourgs, while non-independents are proles.

 No.1794746

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>>1794664
>>1794670
Fundamentally, I think the problem is that journalism in a capitalist system has difficulty existing because it doesn't create the kind of instant profits that venture capitalists want. It might be possible in some sense when the people who own newspapers and other media outlets have some noblesse oblige or idealistic higher purpose that lets them accept relatively moderate profits instead of insta-gold. But we now live in an era of venture capitalist schemes, where rank idiots stumble into massive wealth and believe they're rich because they're smarter than everyone else.

When this happens, as it did in the Gilded Age, these morons run roughshod over the world around them.

Journalists also need to make enough money to live in order to practice journalism. It's easy for other people who already make enough money from something else to do punditry and analysis on the side. But journalists need jobs. But the only jobs are in service of the agenda of whatever douche buys a given publication at a given time.

 No.1794760

>>1794703
>You are always dependent on society. I'm a big Edward Snowden fan, but there is a simple reason, why he can't allow to critizise Putin. This is why there can't be independent journalism. Never and nowhere.
Putin and his censorship regime are not representatives of society, but the state arrayed against the society. The idea that the state represents the interests of everyone in the society is pure fiction.

 No.1794771

>>1794703
>You are always dependent on society. I'm a big Edward Snowden fan, but there is a simple reason, why he can't allow to critizise Putin
Why would that even be notable or desirable as he is a man famous for leaks due to his professional position not because he has anything insightful or interesting to say about Russia, a country in which hehas no special knowledge of, just that he's forced to live in.

 No.1794800

>>1794717
>Independent is an economic descriptor, not a philosophical one. Independents are petbourgs, while non-independents are proles.
What about indiemedia, retard?

 No.1794820

My book recommendation: Propaganda by Edward Bernays. This is THE BOOK about propaganda/journalism/public relations/advertising. (Btw the book itself is propaganda in favor of propaganda. It blows your mind!!)

 No.1794852

>>1794820
The Target Is Your Brain

 No.1794862

>>1794800
>Home Town Hero was an American rock band from Southern California active in the early 2000s. Founding members Aaron Bruno, Drew Stewart, and Jon Monroy began playing together while attending Westlake High School, where their early project was known as the Ice Monkeys. They were greatly influenced by the success of Southern California punk bands of the early 1990s and the grunge aesthetic popularized by bands like Nirvana and Pearl Jam. With the later addition of bassist Todd Burnes and drummer Ray Blanco, who replaced Ryan Cox, the band re-christened themselves as Insurgence. As Insurgence they began playing famous California venues, including The Roxy Theatre and Whisky a Go Go.
What?

 No.1794907

Wikispooks feels like if old r/Conspiracy (before it got taken over by r/The_Donald migration and astroturfing) made a wiki with the worst of schizophrenia filtered out.

 No.1795110

The most pathetic thread I've ever seen, with active glowie participation to boot trying to get people to take drugs.
>>1794642
Cope and seethe. Leaked Hillary Clinton emails revealed NATO killed Gaddafi to stop the formation of a United States of Africa.

 No.1795580

>>1795110
The funny twitter joke

 No.1795585

>>1795110
>Cope and seethe. Leaked Hillary Clinton emails revealed NATO killed Gaddafi to stop the formation of a United States of Africa.
That was wokileaks retard not your schizowiki.

 No.1795608

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NYT twitter transcriber
>Take the L sweetie
Blumenthal
>Data, facts, reporting.
This example # 65894576 is why I'll always shill the Grayzone and Blumenthal as examples of classical journalists. Nobody ever engages with their research or reporting because it's incontrovertible. It's why all journalists and DC elite read them and why places like the Intercept steal their reporting.

 No.1795668

>>1795585
>>1795110
Oh nooo he reused a meme from Wikileaks (on a wiki for the characters associated with it rather than just raw documents) my autistic brain can't take it reee
>>1794616
Strongly underrated by people on this thread. It's a wiki, so yes not everyone is going to agree with you most likely lol. It is really not /r/conspiracy I challenge you to find me examples of them acting like that

 No.1795669

>>1795668 (ME) turn back on the names I liked it just expand the pool
They're like Taibbi fags

 No.1798396

Interesting site I've discovered recently. Slavoj Zizek and Nick Land write for them regularly.
https://dev.compactmag.com/

 No.1798424

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>>1794664
I do independent journalism but the only audience is me and I won't tell anyone the secrets I know.

 No.1798463

>>1798396
>Namechecks NATO Zizek and Misanthroland
Who owns, operates and controls your discovery, anon?

 No.1798809

>>1798463
Compact actually glows harder than anything I've ever seen in my life I use them as a kind of lookup for GLOW

 No.1798836

>>1798396
Also, IIRC they are Zionists as well

 No.1798996

>>1798463
>Who owns, operates and controls your discovery, anon?

I don't know, tell me.

 No.1799007

>>1798396
>Socdem mag
>Peter Hitchens as a commentator
Thanks for reminding me that I need to bully this retard on twitter again. Coward has never replied once to me since he knows I know way more than him.

 No.1807047

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>>1795608
<le journalism cannot exist
Meanwhile the Grayzone journalists just keep doing that old school journalism, exposing the lies that the NYT used to justify the Gaza genocide. was

 No.1807187

>>1794616
I've made threads about this before but socialists should not be meddling with conspiracy theories, which are almost all reactionary in origin.
To make the case against the United States-Israel-NATO power bloc and all its abuses, we need not rely on conspiracy theories. We already have plenty of on-the-record atrocities that we can publicize without fear of scrutiny, not the least of them the slaughter of Palestine. The thing I notice is that in on-the-record conspiracies, such as the assassination of Fred Hampton, the Iran-Contra affair, or the aforementioned atrocities in the state of Palestine, the victims are people of color. Maybe that's why it's hard to get people to care.

 No.1807201

>>1799007
what was that about? his so called trot phase?

 No.1807212

>>1807187
But the unknowns are so much more seductive though and the "knowns" are easily revised. Everything that happend before 1990 is discardable as a different time.
Everything past, a new world being born. Everything recent is assessed by truthiness only far below the source and how socially rewarding it is to know or say. Measures you don't set.
Nobody cares you know about the deep lore of Yugoslavia or the financial intricacies of imperialism. They only care you know about Israel because it's been a sanctioned part of the western culture wars for so long and… all those people who care deeply and want to know more will ,at best,forget about you the moment the next worthy victim becomes the current thing that is socially (and financially if you are into that) rewarding.

Best of all, you can offer nothing material, so whatever measly chips you make into the liberal cultural hegemony will be swept away like so much grease from Teflon by a few temporary concessions and some extra rounds of propaganda.

 No.1807218

>>1807212
Very misanthropic + immaterial + idealistic + you're white

 No.1807326

>>1807218
el oh el

 No.1807781

Guys, I need your help.I can't open pdfs on my windowsphone. Can somebody please copy the text from this pdf and post it here? It's a new text by julian assange. Many thanks! https://cryptome.org/2024/02/WikiLeaks-and-Empire.pdf

 No.1807801

>>1807781
its not even text that we can easily copy my dude, its scanned
you sure you cant open it in your mobile browser ? never interacted with a windows phone but Id be surprised they didnt have a native way to open them

 No.1807821

>>1807801
>its not even text that we can easily copy my dude, its scanned

Oh, that's bad. Nevermind, thank you for checking it out. I will have to look it up later on a different device.

 No.1807844

Ok, I did it! I used a online pdf to jpg converter, now I can read it!

 No.1825869

I think they really did it lads…
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9-11/Israel_did_it


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