/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

The burger experience is a constant bombardment of propaganda telling you to be afraid of everyone and everything and that no one is coming to help or save you.

>>1794928
Because those "don't step in my property" people just want excuses to shot and kill random people and the people they don't like. Like self defense bulshit and stuff like that. Is not unusual to see those assassins get praised by the media for being "real americans defending their rights" or some shit

>Guns are made to kill people
not true. they are also made to kill game

Guns are tools, not toys. If you only use your gun to shoot targets, then the gun is merely a toy in the hands of a child. Guns are made to kill people. Gun rights exist solely for the bourgeoisie to defend their property. You cannot fault the bourgeoisie for using their tools as intended. Your radical liberal moralism blinds you to this.
>>1794944
Wrong. Take the most popular model of gun: the handgun. Handguns are not for killing game. Most guns are handguns, so most guns are for killing people.

>>1794946
"handgun" is a wide category anon. do you have data to back that claim up?

>>1794949
name one handgun that's designed for hunting.

>>1794928
They imagine themselves as feudal lords without any of the LARP fun of the Renaissance Fair, D&D-playing, dungeon-synth listeners (see pic). They just have their jealously guarded McMansions which would not withstand a prolonged siege – especially considering the destructive power of modern weaponry.

I had a run-in like this recently. He didn't pull a gun but I took a detour down a street that had these McMansions while jogging with my dog. My pup got behind me and stopped and immediately dropped to take a shit on this guy's lawn and he *immediately* came out of his house. He seemed high strung. By the time I made eye contact, I already had the plastic dogshit baggie in my hand and I gave him a wave with the bag wrapped around my hand, reached down and picked up the poop while maintaining eye contact the entire time. He was one of these porkine white guys around the age of 50. You know the type.

Note this was half an acre away – roughly half the length of a football field. Perfectly manicured lawn the whole way. So there was some distance. Then he shouted "SERIOUSLY?!?!?!" And I stared at him some more and told me him to excuse himself, then he turned around and went back inside – I assume he didn't want to escalate it any further. I kind of matched him without insulting him. I had never actually stepped off the pavement.

>>1794949
It is self-evident. Stop denying reality and check your own facts.
>>1794953
They exist, but they are rare. I mean anything from a .22 pistol to a 7.62 Draco as a handgun. Hangun in the colloquial sense, not how the bourgeois state may define it.
>>1794949
it is self evident. Must i prove that water is wet?
https://www.texasgunclub.com/the-most-common-types-of-guns-explained/#:~:text=Pistols,pistol%20is%20the%20most%20common.
<The types of guns in American homes vary but the most common is the handgun or pistol, 72% of gun owners have these. 62% of American adults who own guns have a rifle while 54% have a shotgun.

>>1794958
https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/is-water-wet#:~:text=Most%20scientists%20define%20wetness%20as,liquids%20can%20be%20considered%20wet.

Is water actually wet? Scientists aren't sure
We dive into the surprisingly deep scientific debate.
Most scientists define wetness as a liquid’s ability to maintain contact with a solid surface, meaning that water itself is not wet, but can make other sensation.

>>1794960
>the "scientists" don't know if water is wet
This is a metaphysical, ontological problem. This is not science.

ok

>>1794958
Handguns are not effective at hunting distances, and running as fast as you can past a distance of 10 yards is going to evade a shooter with a handgun relatively easily.

>>1794957
>>1794928
I've gotten some shit from this before when talking with right wing gun owners, but there's a genuine culture of fantasizing about people coming for your home/property so you can mag dump them. Like there was that clip making the rounds about some old guy who gunned down a couple robbing his house, and I think he explicitly mentioned one of the robbers was running away and started screaming she was pregnant, but he just shot her in the back.

You can easily see the comments celebrating him for gunning down a fleeing intruder, which makes right wingers trying to talk about how there isn't a culture of just wanting an excuse to kill someone in this country absurd. I don't think it can be reasonably argued that the guy was actually in fear for his life when gunning down a running woman. Then you have that Facebook Boomer that caused some viral storm by saying he grabbed his gun when a little girl rung his doorbell looking for her lost dog.

Now, saying all that, I'm not in favor of a gun ban, but I'd say that guns as a commodity in America have a style of marketing where they're playing to people's Death Wish or Punisher fantasies. Like the couple in OP's pic, at no point did BLM protesters even remotely threaten their homes as far as I know, yet they came out with guns drawn and started pointing them at people. What did the GOP do? Well, celebrated them, gave them a chance to speak at CPAC. The message is clear: there's social rewards for being quick to draw on people for minor disputes.

>Why do people shoot at people for stepping on their yard.
>Maybe try being a little more social. Can't have socialism without the word social.
Have you considered that these might not be people who care about socialism, or for that matter, a collective society whatsoever?

>>1794946
>saying "Wrong." while (correctly) moving your goalposts to exclude a factual reply
Come on, don't be a douchebag.

>>1794960
A technical scientific definition of a term does not invalidate a common definition of a word. They exist simultaneously.

>>1794991
Yea, i re-thought it and yes, i think water is wet. I will not die on this hill trying to say otherwise

>>1794991
>Come on, don't be a douchebag.
this

>>1794988
>I'd say that guns as a commodity in America have a style of marketing where they're playing to people's Death Wish or Punisher fantasies.
That's it – the commodification. It's an industry that wants to sell you guns. It's not only that, but for a tool that will last for 100+ years with basic maintenance and probably won't depreciate that much (I still have my grandfather's pistol manufactured in the 1940s), unless you blow the barrels out through excessive firing. Then the companies are also competing with each other, and investing (I imagine) in new and better precision tooling to make more fine-tuned guns, which is a cost to them.

I have to go back and read Marx about value and price and the costs of new technology leading to profits to fall across the board. But there might be something like that going on, so they have to expand the market to as many potential buyers as possible, and the ideology of guns is rearranged or expands to serve the needs of the industry.

I post covers of this magazine because it's so sleek and presents guns as compatible with an infinite number of uses (guns in space!) or "let's arm EMTs with submachine guns" or even identities, they can also appeal to identity politics outside of the traditional conservative white guy demo – and all heavily armed against… everyone else? Possibly, or theoretically. Eh, why not? You can never be too careful these days… and it's the only way to maximum production.

>>1795016
>(guns in space!)
I endorse fully-automatic luxury gun space communism

What I don't understand about American suburbs is that if people care so much about the line separating their property from the public sidewalk, why don't they just put up a fence? And by that I mean an actual fence, not those weak little wooden obstacles that everyone over the age of twelve can easily step over. If there is a fence, only those would step on the property (by climbing the fence) who actually have bad intentions. Why is the front of the house open? It's not like people come and to go hang around in other people's houses all the time only on the basis that they are neighbours. When people do hang around, they organize an actual party, inviting people they know and they usually do it in the backyard. So what's the point?

>>1795046
Why build a expensive and laborious fence when you can have the funnier option of shoting people instead?

At least, where i live, where basicaly no one can have guns, too expensive, too much regulation, they have very big fances with sharp glass on top, or stuff like that

I don't fucking want random people wandering around where I live and grow food. Like no shit, deal with it.

>>1795071
If you're a rancher trying to protect your herd from bandits then okay but I've read more than one story of McMansion warriors (who do not grow food on their property) executing someone from a cable company for walking up to his door, or terrorizing the neighborhood children for tossing a football onto the lawn.

>>1795046
People think fences look bad, I mean why do you need one, do you live somewhere with criminals? They want instead psychological fences backed with the force of law, and yes, they want to shoot people.

>>1795078
picrel

yea

>>1795078
thats fair king

I watched this YouTube where this guy was interviewed by police after he shot someone for parking in a disabled parking spot. he really acted like he waned to be a cop and shoot someone. the way he was dropping jargon to the cops
yes sir, I neutralised the target sir. I used the twenty foot rule sir. I was using force multiplication sir!

https://youtu.be/sv0iN5J-9mk?si=roK14mf4fteJdCjR

Pretty normal in rural NC for people to cut through my yard and IDGAF. Their only only option is to walk along a 55mph road and all that is in my barn is trash. I even find evidence that people have slept in it and don't care.

>>1794928
Why don't amerimutts have fucking fences? It's like a recipe for disaster. Like no shit people are gonna step on your property, it's fucking open.
>>1795046
This
>>1795082
>People think fences look bad
While they're at it they should remove the locks from their doors and windows, because they look le bad.

>>1795097
DID YOU RAPE THEM?

>>1795093
is he with tyrone now?

>>1795103
A fence isn't picturesque enough. The point is to look inviting and open - to the owner.

>>1795103
and
>While they're at it they should remove the locks from their doors and windows, because they look le bad.
the type of people to blast you for ringing their doorbell absolutely think like this. You shouldnt' be going into someone's home uninvited in a way that a lock would have stopped you, so they're justified in shooting you instead of locking the place.

>>1795103
I didn't say it was rational. But yeah like I really don't care if someone is in my yard. Then again I don't have one, maybe if I was actually a homeowner I would go full psycho mode about it

>>1795104
Not yet. Usually if I suspect its happening I wait till the next day and check to make sure they weren't trying to burn the place down with bottle meth.

>>1795078
>I've read more than one story of McMansion warriors []executing someone from a cable company
holy shit

>>1794928
i'm not a lawyer but i think you have to ask someone to leave before shooting them or else it's murder

>>1794931
came here to say this. it's actually insane, like mass hysteria almost at times it feels, the level of delusional atomized narcissism and paranoia that infects the most fundamental aspects of the burger psyche

>>1795151
In theory but when you kill the other guy who is there to contradict your story?

>>1794988
I wonder how much of it is a justice fantasy. Like you say, Punisher. Those people entered that man's house, therefore he considered it righteous to pursue and kill those criminals. It's not about actual self-defense once the aggressors fled, but it may be about [perceived] justice rather than sadism.

Reminds me of Big Joel's analysis of the Minnesota Police Department report, where police were engaging in extrajudicial punishment, like assaulting a confused jaywalker while giving a shitty one-liner, and assaulting people who committed the same victimless crime multiple days in a row.

>>1795170 *
Minneapolis

>>1794928
Burgers never had a right-to-roam movement like Brits, they have an absolute concept of property drilled into their heads from birth. Bris at least have the debate over the people's rights vs. property owner's rights.

>>1794946
>handguns are not for killing game
always lmao when a fucking noguns has an asinine opinions on guns. yes, guns are for killing whatever you like and that's what makes them useful. they are also fun for shooting inanminate objects. tools can have multiple purposes, wow!

>>1795202
forgot my pic

>>1794988
he's a crypto pro abortion / womens rights advocate

>>1795139
>Not yet.
marxism never ends

>>1794988
Killing lumpenproletariat vermin is based though. Being robbed is different than having some imaginary line violated, and killing a robber means you probably saved someone else's life down the line. I would happily go to jail for having pursued and killed robbers who tried to harm my family, zero guilt. If they're willing to commit violence against human beings for personal gain then removing them is a net benefit for society just like removing fascists and capitalists, and if they're pregnant you're just saving someone else from being born into a lumpen criminal life.
Burgers are violent apes on the other hand, they just want any excuse to commit legal murder. You can't hunt Indians or have legal duels anymore, so baiting somebody to cross your property line is the only way they can commit societally accepted murder and get their psycho jollies off without risking life and limb joining the imperialist military.(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

>>1795209
>Killing lumpenproletariat vermin is based though.
>Burgers are violent apes on the other hand
lmfao

>>1795209
>Killing lumpenproletariat vermin is based though.
wanna get married? i am not ghey though i guess i will have to accept this new life

>>1795212
>Burgers are violent apes on the other hand
its true tho

>>1795209
No way that someone wrote this sincerely.

>>1795218
patsoc produces best womens
>No way that someone wrote this sincerely.
burgers are that bad thru and thru

>>1795224
bahd

>>1795157
A surprising number of people admit to shooting without warning or at fleeing targets at considerable ranges

>>1795016
Y'know I think the most valuable lesson I gleaned from a marketing class, granted I might not be doing it justice, was one of my professors asked us on the first day of class what marketing was for. I think one girl said something like "To inform people about products" or "Help people buy what they need." He responded instantly with
>"A Marketers job is to create demand"

Throughout the course we learned about how marketing has changed over the years, and the most notable shift was that as production methods were standardized, you saw this shift away from huge blurbs where marketers explained why their product was "better" to advertisements that barely even referenced the utility of the product. A great example I saw recently was this car commercial: a whole family going on vacation, but they were all Vikings for some reason? Dad gets a call from work, and suddenly he's back to some normal white collar husband, he smiles and says "I'll get back to you next week!" And BAM! The family are Vikings again. In the Capitalism of yesteryear, there's no way any commercial like that would make sense, but it goes to show how the marketing techniques of Capitalism have changed over the year.

Another, more funny anecdote, was a company trying to market this new form of roach trap that worked so that a roach would go into a little black box, eat poison, and die; you wouldn't even have to see it! Only thing was, the housewives they were selling it too didn't want it, so they tried to figure out why. They asked women to draw roaches, and for some reason a lot of these women drew roaches as tulpas for their old exes and the like. So they took that data, and do this really indirect marketing to appeal to this subconscious "Kill your ex in a horrible way" desire.

And the thing with guns is, they get a lot of free marketing as is. Maybe more than any other commodity I can think of. Video Games, big Hollywood movies, and more. And a lot of these things can do what actual gun companies can't: advertise guns as a means of killing someone. Not even just that, but present that killing as fundamentally righteous and praiseworthy. One of the most bizarre encounters I've ever had while hanging out at a buddy's garage, is his brother came in and said that the news was reporting some carjacker was on the loose in the neighborhood. So he walks over to the gun safe, unlocks it, pulls out a glock, and loads it right there in front of us.

And my first thought was: Jesus fuck, I hope that guy doesn't come this way.

I know the mantra of "better safe than sorry", but at the same time I can't help but wonder if there was a kind of thrill in it. Like imagining yourself as some old timey cowboy while there's a bandit on the loose; you give him a couple new holes, and the sheriff comes over and tips his hat.

It's also why I'm slowly coming to see groups like the John Brown Gun Club, SRA, or Redneck Revolt in a different light. To me, the whole thing smells of the same kind of marketing that convinces 40+ year old divorcees that they should be patroling the border for illegals. It seems like it'd be a great opportunity to market guns to an emerging demographic. Shit, if I were a little less risk adverse, I think you could make bank opening up a "Leftist" Gun Store. Call it "Partisan" or something, have a big red fucking star in neon lights on the outside. Hang up pictures of Che and Mao on the wall. I can already see it making the rounds on the news.
>"So-and-So has a new gun store. The catch? It advertises itself as progressive."
>"They're opening up a MARXIST gun store, can you believe it?"
I can already picture some talking head on Fox News going on about how Commies took all the guns, how absurd and hypocritical it is to open up a gun store, and the owner just smiling and playing into the irony of it all. Shit, you could even include a Red Beret as part of the store uniform.

>>1795243
>It's also why I'm slowly coming to see groups like the John Brown Gun Club, SRA, or Redneck Revolt in a different light. To me, the whole thing smells of the same kind of marketing that convinces 40+ year old divorcees that they should be patroling the border for illegals. It seems like it'd be a great opportunity to market guns to an emerging demographic. Shit, if I were a little less risk adverse, I think you could make bank opening up a "Leftist" Gun Store. Call it "Partisan" or something, have a big red fucking star in neon lights on the outside. Hang up pictures of Che and Mao on the wall. I can already see it making the rounds on the news.
red fed outs himself

>>1795243
>I know the mantra of "better safe than sorry", but at the same time I can't help but wonder if there was a kind of thrill in it. Like imagining yourself as some old timey cowboy while there's a bandit on the loose; you give him a couple new holes, and the sheriff comes over and tips his hat.
Guns are absolutely glorified, saynomore. And guns in themselves (in a vacuum) are a thrilling tool. It's an obviously powerful tool like a chainsaw or a fast car. People shoot recreationally and I enjoyed trying it when I visited Burgerstan. Sure as fuck beats golf. Even FPS and 3PS as a major major major gaming phenomenon, plus airsoft and paintball, are a testament to that, let alone action films.
But I don't know much about the transfer of that fantasy over to real life. It's just not in my culture. I understand the fantasy of defending and even of a sort of martyr complex, that theme of wanting to help others by violently defending against a threat. But extrajudicial execution for theft, that's something I would just think of as rare detached madness. Would they equally have stabbed the perp to death with a knife if they were confident doing so? Would they be satisfied with a less-lethal like sandbagging or tasering?

>It's also why I'm slowly coming to see groups like the John Brown Gun Club, SRA, or Redneck Revolt in a different light.
I honestly haven't seen them in any commercial light, but you make a point, they run a risk of recuperation and that Borderlands in-universe ad is a prime example of how one could commercialize the revolution or as we like to call it, selling us rope.
Do you know about Heart Attack Grill? Your proposal has the same cynical troll energy that I secretly dig.

>>1795296
>Would they equally have stabbed the perp to death with a knife if they were confident doing so?
no, the fatties and the infirm would have to be physically active for once after high school

>>1795296
Im an American. And I live in Floroda, which is a hotbed for gun ownership.
I went out to the shooting range.
It felt so unreal.
The fact that youre shooting hot rounds to a target for fun with a tool that easily is mishandled kinda made me nervous.

It was kinda exhilarating but I guess thats what distuebed me.

>>1795308
>but I guess thats what distuebed me.
liberal

>>1795310
You're a moron and I'm a much better shot than you.

>>1795312
you're a jewish nigger

>>1795325
did papa brandon not tuck u in tonight?

>>1795294
Whoever correctly guesses what branch of the federal government I work for will get a FREE copy of Elden Ring on steam.

>>1795296
>It's an obviously powerful tool like a chainsaw or a fast car. People shoot recreationally and I enjoyed trying it when I visited Burgerstan.

I think what a lot of people miss when they consume media that portrays guns is just how much force those things have. You're firing a fucking rocket through a tube at a target, it's fucking wild the first time you do it.

>But I don't know much about the transfer of that fantasy over to real life. It's just not in my culture. I understand the fantasy of defending and even of a sort of martyr complex, that theme of wanting to help others by violently defending against a threat. But extrajudicial execution for theft, that's something I would just think of as rare detached madness. Would they equally have stabbed the perp to death with a knife if they were confident doing so? Would they be satisfied with a less-lethal like sandbagging or tasering?

Dunno if you're a Euro, but I think understanding the American obsession with gunning someone down via firearms can be done best by understanding Scorsese's Taxi Driver. I believe the writer, Paul Schrader, said he was trying to write a European-style Existentialist novel but in an American context. How does the American context change it? Well, rather than the search for "authenticity" as so many Euro Existentialist heroes go for, the main character Travis is trying to become famous. Y'know, originally his target is some sleazy politico but when that doesn't work out, he goes after some scumbag pimp. The press later lauds him as a hero for taking out some piece of garbage that's pimping underage girls, but it's pretty clear the underlying rage and atomization in Travis is still there, just bubbling beneath the surface and ready to lash out again. At no point does "helping people" figure into it. Travis wants to kill someone and get famous for it, whether that someone's a scumbag politician or a pimp doesn't matter to him.

There's nothing good about it. Nothing heroic. It's just a desire to find a murderous outlet for a deep sense of rage. To impress your will upon another person in the ultimate act of extreme violence. The news crew that comes later and says "heroic gun owner shoots two robbers dead!" is just icing on the cake.

I would say that it's no wonder mass shootings are so common in America, even when compared to other countries with high rates of gun ownership. I don't think other countries recognize the sheer rage simmering in America, day in and day out. It's a violence I think most of us possess deep in our hearts. Shit, as horrible as this might sound, I can tell you of plenty of times where I've dealt with some insanely entitled customer in my store or some asshole who cuts me off in traffic, and I've just imagined dragging them by their hair and pounding their skull into the wall until it's a bunch of red paste.

It ain't healthy.

>Do you know about Heart Attack Grill? Your proposal has the same cynical troll energy that I secretly dig.

The guy behind the Heart Attack Grill has some real supervillain energy in my opinion. If I recall correctly, he designed it as an attempt to warn people about the dangers of fast food by creating the most grotesquely obscene and unhealthy food possible. Difference is, it didn't fucking work. So I imagine overtime he just came to see it all with a sense of cynicism; shit I probably would, too. Looking at these fat fucking lard asses stuffing their faces full of greasy burgers, killing themselves slowly, mustard and ketchup staining their XXXL sized shirts. At a point, he probably relished in the fact that he was telling them to their face that his food was gonna kill them one day.

>>1795170
>I wonder how much of it is a justice fantasy. Like you say, Punisher. Those people entered that man's house, therefore he considered it righteous to pursue and kill those criminals. It's not about actual self-defense once the aggressors fled, but it may be about [perceived] justice rather than sadism.
>Reminds me of Big Joel's analysis of the Minnesota Police Department report, where police were engaging in extrajudicial punishment, like assaulting a confused jaywalker while giving a shitty one-liner, and assaulting people who committed the same victimless crime multiple days in a row.

The adoption of Punisher logos by the police department I think goes to show just how fucking dire the police situation is in this shithole.

The Punisher is a fucking sadist. Most people only know him for the watered-down image of him: "Oh, he's a gritty antihero who KILLS people!" But that ain't even scratching the surface. He's got the personality type of a fucking member of the Einsatzgruppen. He tortures people, viscerally. Not just the clean, Hollywood style of beating people to a pulp, this mother fucker actually drugged a dude, cut open his gut, and tied his entrails to a tree to "interrogate" him. Literally his only supposing "redeeming" quality is the fact the people he kills are so comically evil as to make their torture and murder a spectacle that's seemingly "justified."

Like your typical Punisher MAX comic follows some formula of: "There's a cartel of human traffickers that make baby snuff porn and run by former Nicaraguan death squads, Punisher then proceeds to systematically flay them alive while pumping them for information."

And the thing with all this pornographic "anti-hero" shit, is it always presumes these assholes have some kind of "code" that keeps them in line. Y'know, like the Punisher will let Captain America beat the crap out of him because he respects him so much, or he won't kill innocent people, but the thing with that is the type of personality who's wholly willing to engage in the sickest depravity known to man isn't likely to have any code at all. He justifies anything and everything to himself. If the fucker feels comfortable slowly cutting a guy's limbs off with a hacksaw while he's screaming for mercy, I won't trust that sick bastard not to rub it to kiddie porn or accept bribes (all under some insane, self assured idea of "justice"). I'd like to imagine a person with even a shred of humanity, if he saw a man (no matter how vile!) writhing in pain and begging for him to stop, well he'd at least hesitate. Unlike what that fucking retard Chris Kyle thought, The Punisher doesn't "kill bad guys", he indulges in a circus of unfettered depravity for no fucking reason than his own perverse satisfaction. And I think I know how that whole thought process works; the guy who sees some Cartel video of a dude getting burned alive isn't going to make a distinction between the guys doing the burning, and Miguel, the dumb fucking gang banger who, through a series of rash decisions, joins a gang to prove he's a real man.

The Punisher is nothing less than an excuse to engage in the worst kind of sadism, but have it justified under some pathetic veneer of having a "moral code."

>>1795356
Deep state, /leftypol/ monitoring division. Snowden told us about this division in 2013. Look closely at Alunya's collar.

I don't have Steam.

>>1795356 (replying to me)
oh god i just realized that I'd been confusing The Punisher with The Phantom for the past four years and thought they were just a regular gun-loving vigilante. (i was never into capeshit)

>>1795146
It happened near where I live and the guy was convicted of murder, so that's something.

I don't know if you're from somewhere else in the world, but if Sakai was right about anything it's that this is might be the Settler-ism that he talked about. There are people whose relationship with the land they're sitting on and violence is like Boers in South Africa, but that might even be offensive to Boers for all I know because I don't know if there are people who act like this there.

But I've had an aunt threatened by someone for just pulling over in her car in front of someone's house (she's a nice Christian lady). My brother walked up to someone's house around a year ago and he started shouting from inside, "Stop! Don't move! Put your hands where I can see them!! STOP!!! DON'T MOVE!!!!!" He stopped and raised his hands and then said what he as doing (asking if he could rescue a dog on his property that had a broken leg with the bone sticking out – he rescues animals). The guy went silent, came out, and agreed to let him do it… but it wasn't his dog… but his crazy uncle who will get violent and crazy if he knew you were here ayeeeeee!!! Well, anyways, the dog had to have its leg amputated but it's fine now.

>>1795509
Yeah I definitely think it stems back to the native genocide - also the American obsession with scary monsters in the woods seems like it has a pretty obvious root too.

I think that decades false flag terrorism and of psy-ops about your neighbors being evil and your political 'opponents' making the world dangerous and rotten have legitimately gotten to the people at large. There is an undercurrent of misanthropy in it. Like property owners frequently will illegally claim ownership of public lands and waters, and lay barbed wire traps or open fire on people that are just trying to kayak down a river or something. I don't know if this is putting the cart before the horse but we desperately need some kind of right to roam in the US, like a legal right to 'trespass' and camp etc. in private fields and forests and all.

>>1795556
>your neighbors being evil
this is tru though

>>1794991
>A technical scientific definition of a term does not invalidate a common definition of a word. They exist simultaneously.
language games pilled

>>1796101
>Language games
Autist trying to understand socializing

>>1796364
>Autists trying to understand [X]
Anon if you don't like philosophy just say so.

- They see gun ownership as a right, as opposed to seeing gun wieldership as a responsibility to one's community.
- The gun collects dust in a cabinet because fuckall happens where they live.
- Legal technicalities and cops being biased in favor of fellow conservatives means they can get away with shooting anyone that is technically on their property, like a spider waiting on it's web.

>>1796378
anal phil IS autistic af

>>1796390
> like a spider waiting on it's web.
why is this so accurate?

>>1796530
lol

>>1796530
equality

>>1794928
>Why do people shoot at people for stepping on their yard.
Gun fetishism paired with radical individualism fostered on the workers.

A gun's only purpose is to kill. Add to that the constant propaganda that having a right to guns is part of your identity and you get people itching to use them.. Add security forces derived from slave catchers, apartheid enforcers, strike breakers and capitalist cold warriors and stir.

To "have to" shoot a person with a gun becomes cathartic, a rite of passage into proper national identity and a point of pride.

>>1794988
least unhinged gun nut

>>1795191
The small size of the British Isles means that they've been forced to make these sorts of compromises since there's not enough land for everyone to have land that actually private.

>>1795294
He's right, and you're using TOR. Sorry that unionizing and joining the SRA isn't all there is to life and the most obvious solution that appealed to you might have some doubts around it.

>>1797627 (Me)
Some of us have to wonder why certain people get burned alive in their cars while Mike Prysner and the SRA go about their merry business.

>>1797627
>>1797628
puppets

>>1794928
Why are you so worried about being shoot for trespassing? Why are you hanging around in the yards of strangers?

>>1797996
Even the forests of rural america are "no trespassing" but every square mile of the eastern half of the country is dotted with boomer suburban housing development which prevents poor americans from being able to even walk through the woods without potentially being shot for "looking suspicious". This isnt a problem in europe because they have a concept called "the right to travel" which puts the rights of people to walk wherever they want above the rights of private property owners. It's a simple contradiction of priorities, nothing more.