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 No.1800541

Hey y'all. I am curious to learn about Robert Mugabe, a figure whom for imperialists, liberals and the far-right alike seems to be an icon of the inability of African countries to govern themselves without any assistance from the West. I see headlines such as "MUGABE RETURNING LAND TO WHITE FARMERS AFTER CRASHING THE ECONOMY" and get the sense there's some gross oversimplification going on here, not to mention good old fashioned racism.

I'm genuinely curious about this guy who was apparently a colleague of Nelson Mandela and Desmond Tutu, and seems to have taken his country on a similar path away from white supremacy as South Africa. So why is he so scorned? Why are there so many tabloid-esque headlines written about him? Why does his image in Western media strike me as the punchline to a big laugh everyone's having about Africa's slow, brave crawl out from colonial slavery and exploitation?

 No.1800544

Because he made their job easy.

 No.1800593

He was an opportunist and a demagogue, but as far as those go he was not nearly as bad as his detractors say. He followed through on redistributing land to the peasantry and waited much longer than many other soviet aligned 3rd world leaders to accede to international capital. Not an especially good or admirable leader, I dont know enough about the history to speak to the scale and severity of the gukuruhundi (it def happened to some extent however) but hysteria about him being an exceptionally evil dictator is enough to discount someones evaluation of him

 No.1800599

obligatory Mugabe is based because he triggers whitey post

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>>1800541
One thing to keep in mind is that some white Rhodesian die-hards continued to stage hit-and-run attacks from across the border in South Africa.

But Mugabe could be pretty out there. He seemed to have a petty and vain personality, ironically quite the Anglophile, sent his army into a profligate proxy war in the DRC, and killed around 20,000 people in the Ndebele-speaking region in the south where his one-time ally Joshua Nkomo's supporters held sway (and what was up with the Hitler-esque mustache?). Nkomo led a different rebel group during the war of liberation that was backed by the USSR (Mugabe was backed by China and the DPRK). Archbishop Desmond Tutu once told a South African newspaper, "He was one of Africa's best leaders, a bright spark, a debonair, well-spoken and well-read person … but he seems to have gone bonkers in a big way."

Interesting to read about other figures in the government in the 80s and 90s. Speaking of the 'stache, one might read up about Chenjerai "Hitler" Hunzvi (pic), really his nom de guerre was Hitler, who boasted about being "the biggest terrorist in Zimbabwe," chaired the Zimbabwe war veterans association until he died in 2001 (more than likely of AIDS), which functioned as Mugabe's personal goon squad (targeting not only the political opposition but white farmers in land seizures), and was eventually charged with lifting tens of millions of dollars from the war veterans' fund.

There's also the story of Canaan Banana, the first president of Zimbabwe (Mugabe was the prime minister and later made himself president) who was arrested for allegedly molesting male staff members. The bodyguard of Banana's wife then shot to death a policeman who he called "Banana's wife." Some of the better headlines at the time included "Banana Denies Buggery" and "Mugabe Slips on Banana." Then when the disgraced ex-president fled the case, "Banana Splits."

 No.1800616

Mugabe‘s problem is that he didn‘t do the things triggered white demons accuse him of and that was annihilating the entire white population when he took power. Bonus points for enslaving them.

 No.1800636

Blud genocided 20k africans in the west region because he was part of a different tribe

 No.1800654

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Mugabe had the opportunity to be based as fuck and indiscriminately kill any whitoid on sight but he didn‘t and now this potential will only remain falsehoods spread by triggered whities to frame him as bad from the perspective of their warped moral conceptions

 No.1800657

>>1800654
>he was gonna be soooo based for the win until he got into power and killed his fellow men
Wow, it's almost like class position matters more than things like the color of your skin.

 No.1800658

>>1800654
This goes to show though that when you decolonize you definitely should indiscriminately kill all whites. Because if you don‘t they will claim that you did anyway to frame you as bad but then you don‘t even get the benefits of actually having done it

 No.1800661

>>1800657
He didn‘t do it out of class but because the West would have fucked him even harder if he did. Plus, he was a pussy.

 No.1800666

>>1800661
Lol, sure.

 No.1800670

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Leftists will correctly push back against notions of things like 'Europe for Europeans' based on ethno-nationalist grounds but then swing and start blabbering about how 'indigenous people' should exclusively own all the land in places like America, Africa or Palestine. Strange.

 No.1800673

>>1800670
Is this bait?

 No.1800675

>>1800670
Really excites my neurons, indeed

 No.1800677

TOTAL MAYO EXTINCTION

Seriously, mayonnaise is gross

 No.1800678

>>1800670
Indigenous liberation movements aren't ethno-nationalist. That's why.

 No.1800680

>>1800678
They should be though. Indigenous people need to recognize their innate supremacy and drive the white leeches off of their land.

 No.1800681

>>1800677
mayonnaise may be gross but it makes toasted sandwiches edible.

 No.1800682

>>1800670
This has more to do with the fact that all white nations have no proletariat class or revolutionary potential and are all imperialist bastards rather than ethnonationalism, and because most natives are pissed then empowering them might lead to a opening for socialism where as say, all Americans are fucking idiots who just want 99 cent chicken nuggets and for it to be the 80s again, not the Falklands, world on the edge of nuclear war, recession 80s, but the "Dude I love the hecking Terminator Predator video games arcades, I love retro culture" shit.
Whether or not this becomes weaponized by other parties malicious to the western proletariat is irrelevant.

 No.1800686

>>1800682
Exactly, from a materialist standpoint whites should be wiped out for possessing no revolutionary potential. The coming decades will only consist of imperialist nations driving the rest of the world to the brink of destruction to maintain what they have.

 No.1800688

>>1800670
It’s not strange at all. Being a leftist simply means you hate white peoples

 No.1800690

>>1800688
Literally

 No.1800694

>>1800688
Digits like that confirm.
In order to fulfill the true revolutionary stampede of change of the MOP across the globe, this cannot be done without rivers of blood of white people to fuel the machine.
Engels said this about the huns, but we must now realize this is applicable to all whites period. These people cannot be reasoned with, the only thing left to do is revolutionary genocide that shall summon forth a strong enough Afro-Pagan egregore that will kill capitalism. This is the only way.
Total cracker death, billions of whites must die.

 No.1800695

bait thread on main board, cool. sure smells like hexbear libshittery in here

 No.1800766

>>1800657
The SACP had an article about the shifting class structures in Zimbabwe:

>After its landslide 1980 election victory, Mugabe's ZANU quite rapidly began to change character. The upper echelons formed the political elite in the post-independence government. The second-layer leadership became officers and NCOs in the new army. Thousands of rank and file combatants were demobilised and returned to their remote peasant farms. From there they could hardly influence the ongoing evolution of post-independence affairs. Urban students and trade unions had been supportive but largely marginal in the struggle. In the early years after independence they were organised as tame appendages of the ruling party.


>These developments were unfortunately similar to those that have characterised many former liberation movements on our continent. After ascendancy to political power, the class alliances within the liberation movement shift from the pre-independence alliance between the working class, the peasantry and progressive sections of the petty bourgeoisie to a new alliance between these (formerly) progressive elements of the petty bourgeoisie and sections of local and international capital. This is usually brought about by the marginalisation of the working class and the peasantry in the post-independence reconstruction programmes. Without participation of the masses, the petty bourgeoisie, now in control of state institutions and within the context of the domination of imperialism, seeks to advance its interests in accumulation into an alliance with sections of local and international capital. The end result of these developments has always been the continuation of the economic structure of the colonial era, albeit under new circumstances, thus sacrificing the interests of working class, the peasantry and the poor.


>The growing bureaucratisation of ZANU-PF, as a result of similar processes, left it vulnerable to external pressure. In the late 1980s and through the 1990s Mugabe was unable to resist pressures from the World Bank and the IMF, and was forced to implement harsh structural adjustment programmes. Growing hardship amongst the urban masses saw the once tame ZCTU pursuing a more militant in the 1990s. The election results basically shows that ZANU-PF has lost the support of the organised working class, the urban masses, and the former ZAPU support in Matebeleland.

https://www.sacp.org.za/content/lessons-zimbabwe

 No.1800769

>>1800766
same as it ever was

notice how morons like >>1800661 will blame da evil west as if non-white bourgeois are somehow worth defending as a communist

 No.1800828

The reason for the famine(s) and higher food importations was the fact that during the bush war, most white farmers either willingly or not grew food to support the war effort. Once the war was over they and any new black farmers reverted to the African kulak routine of growing cash crops to sell.
Also note that there's a myth that white farmers had their land expropriated immediately after the war but that's not true. They stayed the majority of land holders until 2000 when the expropriations actually started since the Lancaster House agreement forbid seizing their land.
Either way, both white and black farmers before or after 2000 operated the same way as any sub-saharan kulak.

Still, Mugabe was a retard for many reasons. Chief among them:
>agreeing to the lancaster house agreement
>implementing (at best) socdem-tier reforms
And most importantly
>not actually collectivising the land but instead giving it as private property to fellow guerilla leaders and personal friends

 No.1800945

Good things about Mugabe: Killed white people
Bad things about Mugabe: Didn’t kill enough white people

 No.1800986

>>1800541
Black porky

 No.1801002

>>1800828
This. Mugabe was a very mild socdem tier leader at best. It was the veterans of the bush wars who, demanding land ownership pushed for land reform policies. Which under his rule was botched into a clientelist resource network rather than true collectivization.
The whole image of Mugabe being some radical anti-white despot is primarily just racist image cultivated by Anglos due to their colonial hangups. By all account Mugabe was very fond of Western culture and trappings.

 No.1801025

i hate mugabe after reading all the atrocities he commited against whites and then learning it was all fake
i mean how incompetent can you be? if you cant even implement proper cracker control you’re not fit to rule a country

 No.1801100

The problem was that Mugabe liked white people, specifically Anglos, too much which kept him from doing the moral thing which is to indiscriminately kill all white people in Zimbabwe.

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 No.1801208

Weird how 'board culture' changes.
I remember when you faggots used to vehemently defend Mugabe as le based anti White Real communist or whatever devoid from reality autism.

 No.1801212

>>1800670
>but then swing and start blabbering about how 'indigenous people' should exclusively own all the land
I've never heard anybody say this, at least irl. The reality of countries like Rhodesia and South Africa was that tiny white minorities (usually around 10% of the population) owned almost all the land. That economic disparity was a cornerstone of apartheid and obviously needs to be dismantled.

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>>1801002
>By all account Mugabe was very fond of Western culture and trappings.
He liked three-piece suits with a pocket handkerchief and Rolls Royces. If you search for Mugabe and Anglophile, a lot of results turn up, including his friendship with Nicholas Soames, the last British governor of Rhodesia. But one post-mortem quote from a British official said he understood them so well that was good at annoying them when he wanted to.

 No.1801458

>>1800828
>>1801002
Good info here, thanks. I don't know why my thread triggered so much insanity but do you know any books I could check out about the history of Zimbabwe?

 No.1801486

>>1800769
Mugabe was friendly with socialist countries and suffered in the 90s due to the collapse of the USSR in the same way as Nelson Mandela and the ANC. Also he gave refuge to Mengistu at his own expense.
>non-white bourgeois are somehow worth defending as a communist
It was a national liberation movement and it was progressive unless the settler state of Rhodesia was ever going to become socialist.

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>>1800670
why not both?

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