/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

It will probably liberalized in the next few years or so.

Last I checked the Councils for the Protection of the Revolution are still active in every neighborhood, if the Party haven't lost all those organizers and activists it's unlikely for the government to be overthrown.
>>1803064
It'll be like China but with tourism instead of manufacturing as the main industry outside of world class healthcare and social work. The alternative to the nightmare Cubans live under now is the one in Haiti.

I knew this waa going to happen after their oil tanks blew up several months back.

>>1803059
Nothing ever happens

>>1803059
Everybody hates Cuba here in south florida, muh "patria y vida" and Amerishart propaganda

Cuba has survived worse.

>>1803352
<Everybody hates Cuba here in south florida, muh "patria y vida" and Amerishart propaganda
I think comrade Bug's might be onto something here in picrel…

>>1803059
We have this thread once a year and the protests or reported end of Cuban socialism never transpire to anything.

>>1803362
state full of gusanos and manipulated working class cuban-americans constantly barraged with readymade CIA propaganda
it's crazy how reactionary cubans suck up to the rich whites and northern conservative Florida who pretty much hate them

All it would take is one big promotional "Ally in distress" campaign in China and Russia's consumer markets, with the usual token nods to socialism and solidarity, to promote tourism and Cuba's products. Then a few rounds of investment, preferably kept in the public sector by both sides, and problem solved innit? The US has it's soft power in tatters since Ukraine, and now Israel's Nakba2.0 is sucking up the rest of it dry.

And besides, how much could it cost to China, assuming no return for investment but a competent administration, to keep Cuba afloat? Probably pocket change for the scale of their economy.

Better Cuba become a dependent Chinese satellite and future weapons platform because history is a flat circle than the not-quite-dead-yet horse the US keeps around to beat for clout and political entertainment.

>>1803384 (me)
Like, the USA can't afford a good try to finish off Cuba, much less a very public spat with China to stop them from helping.

>>1803059
>What do you think of Cuba and its future?
I hope they get food aid and switch to a cooperative market economy. Cuba is too small country to produce everything they need so they need imports from friendly countries.

>>1803452
Kinda hard to export to Cuba when you risk of getting sanctioned by USA.

>That's partially true, says Johanna Cilano Pelaez, a researcher with Amnesty International. "But it's irresponsible to blame U.S. sanctions alone for the state of the Cuban economy," she says.

https://mx.linkedin.com/in/johanna-cilano-pelaez-49a17547

<She is the founder of Government and Political Analysis AC and content coordinator of the magazine “Desafíos de la Democracia en América Latina” by DemoAmlat. Member of the Network of Political Scientists #NoSinMujeres

https://www.idea.int/es/donors

Main sponsors: Sweden and Estonia

Can anybody explain to me why Estonia, but no South American Country, has a interest in promoting Latinas in PolSci? ESTONIA?

<International IDEA & the Netherlands Reaffirm their Partnership for Democracy with Six-Year, 12-million-euro agreement

<International IDEA & Switzerland reaffirm their partnership for democracy with four-year, 3.3-million-euro agreement

She's getting millions for this.

>>1803384
China values its trade with the US far more than it values Cuba's revolution.

>>1803456
as the world becomes more multipolar the embargo will be less of a powerful disincentive for trade (it still will be a huge obstacle for cuba since its really close to the united states)

>>1803558
China has its own people to take care of in addition to the international obligations. It is easy to blab about how easy it is to evade sanctions or whatever as some Western poster online with no skin in the game. If the defense of the revolution were so easy why haven't any Western communists stepped up to defy the sanctions that the Americans imposed, to truly break the embargo with force if necessary and not just protest ineffectively against the Yankee cruelty?

It's making headlines now. Same shit as in 2021.
Im guessing this is because the Russians are deepening military ties.
>Combat Approved recently made a trip to Cuba.
>Thank you retard Hinkle for throwing Cuba under the bus.
>America is truly the great Satan and Cuba is Job from the bible.

>>1803230
it does if people dont get their bread

>>1804431
i know what you mean but also im sorry, i still believe in internationalism that exists outside of a stock portfolio. cuba fought in angola & namibia even when the USSR told them it would be too provocative.

>>1809477
kill yourself

>>1809505
Cope

>WFP says
Don’t care.
Until I here something specific from Cuban sources themselves it’s a nothing burger

Is a Fizzle or Sizzle?

>>1804431
>China has its own people to take care of
Yeah and the sooner the US is sidelined the sooner they will be able to take care of them without the threat of imperialism.
>in addition to the international obligations
It's international obligations like supplying the US with cheap consumer goods and sustaining its economy?
>If the defense of the revolution were so easy
It's not easy, which is why its unreasonable to expect more from the tiny Western communists movement than you do from an ostensibly communist superpower.
>to truly break the embargo with force if necessary
Break the embargo how? Do we own any ships or planes? Do we have any goods we can ship to them? Once again, China could easily break the embargo and provide Cuba everything it needs. They simply care more about maintaining their lucrative trade with the US.

So it was a nothingburger all this time?

>>1811181
It's 'Fo rizzle my nizzle, extra sauce on the frizzle.'

>>1811188
>China could easily break the embargo and provide Cuba everything it needs. They simply care more about maintaining their lucrative trade with the US.

China should just start ww3? You're delusional.

>>1811220
You realize that foreign ships already trade with Cuba? The US navy isn't literally blockading the island, rather the Americans simply impose additional sanctions on whoever trades with them. For example any ship that docks in a Cuban port is banned from docking in an American port for the next 6 months, meaning that doing business with Cuba means a loss of business in the much larger American market. The issue isn't that people are being physically prevented from trading, it's that the threat of these sanctions is an effective deterrent. However it's only effective on people who consider trade with the US more important than trade with Cuba.

China to the rescue

>>1814542
Based

>>1814542
Based

>>1814542
Dengoids, I kneel
Only took them a gorillion years

>>1814542
Oh nice. Did they do this despite the threat of the US sanctioning them or are they still in line within their terms?

>>1814558
There's no "i" in dengods

Do some Canadians still like Cuba? I still do and some of the boomers I used to talk to said positive things about them.

>>1814615
Canadians like Cuba, but also Canadians are wholly consumed by anticommunist brain rot. The friends I know who have gone are convinced that things would be "better" with Burgerland-style "democracy" even though its the Burgoid blockade that's starving the island.>>1814615

the cuban bureaucracy sucks balls
people have to stop excusing the embarrassment that cuba is on "sanctions", ever since the special period capital has comfortably settled on the island
even obama tried to "lift the embargo" as a way to officially acknowledge the us and american corporations trade with cuba and are established in the country

>>1814615
they like to travel to Cuba but that's not an endorsement of the politics. I know a guy who claims to bring extra suitcases full of clothes to give away to people

>>1814775
Imagining these weird snowburgers giving you oversized lclothes saying 'for you. communism bad' in slow English.

>>1814736
kys stupid fucker

>>1814858
im pretty sure the cuban proletariat, which have been protesting against budget cuts for a while now, appreciates your dashing counter-argument
https://www.zedmariel.com/en
the bureaucrats have not prepared the island materially nor culturally to withstand the lack of soviet support and simply opened the economy to the predations of foreign capital

>>1814970
China will save cuba dont worry about It
Cuba will become the center for semicondutor production in south América, trust me their gdp will go to the moon soon

>>1803059
Actually this rings a lot with the parallels to our CIA backed protests in the early parts of the return of market economy. Food shortages in at least 2-3 years is expected as the entire planned system is reorganized. Back then in 1997 about 43000 farmers, vets and liberals did the same. It’s just libs taking advantage of the chaos of reorganization to make trouble. The idiot ass students at tiananmen did it too.
https://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biểu_tình_Thái_Bình_1997

>>1814736
once again the leftcom proves lenin completely right by carrying water for international capital under the pretext of "the revolution not being the way i wanted it to be"

>>1815124
international capital supports the cuban bureaucracy. else they wouldnt invest in their sez or would topple their regime
>"the revolution not being the way i wanted it to be"
right slashing the budget for basic goods and services for the proletariat while the party bureaucrats live comfortably and make business with international capital is very revolutionary
are you going to acknowledge the internal factors that fueled the ussr collapse or are you going to blame the west for everything like a drone without the ability to make self-critique? because the cuban bureaucrats are the ones killing the revolution, and its been that way since the special period

>>1815143
>>1815143
>are you going to blame the west for everything
At this level of discussion, yes.

>>1815143
>are you going to blame the west for everything
Yes, unquestionally lol. They can fuck off.

>>1815143
>international capital supports the cuban bureaucracy.
and that is why cuba is embargoed by the strongest arm of international capital, to reaffirm said capital's support for its socialist government
>right slashing the budget for basic goods and services for the proletariat while the party bureaucrats live comfortably and make business with international capital is very revolutionary
this why left communism is an infantile disorder. you must be perfect in all ways as a revolutonary regime, otherwise you are a degenerate. external factors don't matter, just build the revolution bro. but be careful: if you commit one mistake you should just let capital take it all back because you failed. critical support is for fascists.

my dude, you don't seem to understand that even tho there was still a difference between the quality of life of ussr party bureaucrats and the proletariat, the difference was absolutely tiny compared to the insane 100:1 and higher differences that you find in advanced capitalist economies.

the same thing applies to cuba: they do what they can with what they have, and they don't have much because, unlike what you claim, international capital is committed to starving them out. and yet it's still a lot better over there for the proletariat than in comparable capitalist countries.

>>1815948
>and that is why cuba is embargoed by the strongest arm of international capital, to reaffirm said capital's support for its socialist government
international capital supports the cuban bureaucracy. else they wouldnt invest in their sez or would topple their regime
https://www.bis.doc.gov/index.php/policy-guidance/country-guidance/sanctioned-destinations/cuba
https://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2016-02-15/apnewsbreak-us-oks-first-factory-in-cuba-since-revolution
https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/nation-world/world/article60440516.html
…or maybe this means that obama and the democrats are comrades?

this why dogmatism is an infantile disorder. you must compromise in all ways as a revolutionary regime, otherwise you are an ultra. internal factors don't matter
>critical support
im glad you recognize the internal failings of a degenerated workers state
>international capital is committed to starving them out
or maybe they relied too much on whatever the moscovite bureaucracy demanded and didnt develop means of production as a way to materially prepare their population and simply established a sez and market reforms under the name "special period". maybe, just maybe, international capital is not omnipotent, contradictions still exist during socialism and the party is responsible for whats happening in cuba

>>1816069
So what do you suggest to address the immediate needs of the cuban people?

>>1816082
organize the rebelling masses into a vanguard party to dispute political rights (internal democracy, expulsion of the parasitic bureaucracy, widespread union rights)
as the organized cuban proletariat become an influential political actor, they will be able to dictate economic policy based on needs and their own interests (meaning, not simply brokering deals with international capital in favour of this or that minister, but developing means of production and/or possibly seizing sez industries to sustain a welfare state)
this may ripple within latin america and fuel mass movements, which in turn could possibly create steady, profitable regional trade and economic synergy

>international capital supports the cuban bureaucracy. else they wouldnt invest in their sez or would topple their regime
cuba allows managed relations with international capital in order to survive in a situation where they are literally besieged from all sides. international capital seeks to topple the cuban government, but a limited form of cooperation with it can also ensure some form of defence against it. the sez is a necessary compromise with capital for a state such as cuba in a world where there is no socialist hyperalliance to defend them in the event of reactionary aggression.

i call myself a communist, and unconditionally support this state of affairs over the alternative as the absolutely correct course of action for all communists, because the alternative is a literal blackest reaction that will turn that country into fucking haiti. read lenin.

>you must compromise in all ways as a revolutionary regime
you say this, and yet criticise them on the point of international trade, as if they have a realistic choice in the matter. compromises also mean compromising with capital if you are not in a position to challenge it. the alternative is the death of the revolution, but hey at least it remained pure amirite

>im glad you recognize the internal failings of a degenerated workers state
yes, there are failings. it's not perfect. and yet: full support for cuban comrades in their battle for survival against capitalist robber barons. the whole "degenerated workers state" thing tho is trot nonsense that implies revolutionary purity above all otherwise the state irreversibly fails, i don't accept it in the slightest. cuba is politically in a better position to build a marxist state than any of its capitalist neighbours, and that should be enough to unconditionally support their survival.

>or maybe they relied too much on whatever the moscovite bureaucracy demanded and didnt develop means of production as a way to materially prepare their population
clearly therefore they should give up and succumb to said capital. maybe the communist parties are also not omnipotent? ask castro (or the cia for that matter) in the 80s whether they believe the soviet union is about to fall apart, and they would consider you "out of touch".

and then there's the implication that one can just wish productive forces out of thin air. need i remind you that the catalyst for the ussr's rapid industrialisation was a robust system of trade for tools, machinery and expertise with western capitalist nations?
<inb4 this is what made it into a "degenerate state"

>>1816097
>(internal democracy, expulsion of the parasitic bureaucracy, widespread union rights)
>(meaning, not simply brokering deals with international capital in favour of this or that minister, but developing means of production and/or possibly seizing sez industries to sustain a welfare state)

Oh, i see, you are an fellow anarchist! Welcome to the club!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism_in_Cuba

>>1816126
>cuba allows managed relations with international capital in order to survive in a situation where they are literally besieged from all sides
*the cuban bureaucracy, worried about its own survival, and not the welfare of the cuban proletariat. they know that they cant relinquish its control over the political apparatus nor economic policy because its against its own interests
>international capital seeks to topple the cuban government
due to internal dissent and the worldwide receding left international capital is in full capabilities to topple the cuban government. they dont do it because which bourgeois would be interested in owning the cuban market? its too small to exploit. they can broker whatever deal they want with the party
>the sez is a necessary compromise with capital
in what sense? its a free economic zone, 0% taxes, reliant on brutally low wages, no technological exchange whatsoever. no benefits for the cuban working class in sight
>unconditionally support this state of affairs
if we cannot make internal critiques we delegate this task to the reaction
>the alternative is a literal blackest reaction
>the alternative is the death of the revolution
reviewing the liberalization of the economy and giving the proletariat full political rights after 60 years of socialism means that the blackest reaction will take over? i guess the partys been doing a shitty job
>the whole "degenerated workers state" thing tho is trot nonsense
so i guess the ussr just rolled over and died because reasons
>maybe the communist parties are also not omnipotent?
the party had 60 years of political dominance they have no excuse for doing what theyve been doing after the special period
>the catalyst for the ussr's rapid industrialisation was a robust system of trade for tools, machinery and expertise with western capitalist nations?
cuba hasnt been taking advantage of its sez to develop its own means of production
>>1816130
im not an anarchist

I feel about Cuba the same way I assume American jingoists feel about Israel. Like if there was a way to straight up give money to the revolution the way you can give money to expand the state of Israel I'd do it.

>>1816181
>the cuban bureaucracy, worried about its own survival
without the cuban bureaucracy the american bureaucracy sends in the troops for a "peacekeeping mission"
>they dont do it because which bourgeois would be interested in owning the cuban market? its too small to exploit.
lmao, i guess it tracks that leftcoms don't understand economics. there is no such thing as a "market too small", the falling rate of profit dictates ever increasing rates of exploitation. read marx
>in what sense? its a free economic zone
in the sense that it allows capital a form of managed exploitation so that they at least slow down with their demands for toppling the entire cuban state. also, it only has exemptions from employment taxes and customs duties, the other taxes (profits, sales, services) were timed and have since expired, so they do actually see some economic benefit from it too. even then porky criticises it for not "going fast enough", see https://www.adrianoplegroup.com/post/zone-profile-mariel-sez
>if we cannot make internal critiques we delegate this task to the reaction
we can make internal critiques, but i hope you realise that the things you demand are literally impossible to accomplish at this time without weakening the cuban state to the point where porky will try to reassert himself
>i guess the partys been doing a shitty job
ye fr why haven't they overtaken the usa in gdp yet
are you for real? everything was fine as long as they had the ussr as a trading partner. you do know that autarkies dont work, right?
>the party had 60 years of political dominance they have no excuse for doing what theyve been doing after the special period
absolute nonsense when you are on the doorstep to capitalism's biggest enforcer who is actively trying to collapse your economy at every opportunity
>cuba hasnt been taking advantage of its sez to develop its own means of production
so you do accept that it is the correct course of action within their current material circumstances?

>>1816207
>without the cuban bureaucracy the american bureaucracy sends in the troops for a "peacekeeping mission"
correction *because of the cuban bureaucracy the american bureaucracy sees no need to send in troops for a "peacekeeping mission". accumulation for international capital is already guaranteed by the party
>the falling rate of profit dictates ever increasing rates of exploitation
foreign capital molds itself to internal markets, they dont increase productivity rates. thats why, for example, latam bridgestone hqs have low productivity compared to hqs established in the developed west
>in the sense that it allows capital a form of managed exploitation so that they at least slow down with their demands for toppling the entire cuban state
this is just wishful thinking
>weakening the cuban state
the cuban proletariat have been rightfully protesting against the bourgeois economic solutions of the politburo. apparently meeting their demands and diverting resources from luxury hotels and sez to meet basic needs "weakens" the revolution. if cuban people can get rid of those parasites, good riddance. they are the ones who guarantee porkys profits in the island
>porky will try to reassert himself
they dont really need to do anything to worsen cubas state nor want to take care of cubas economy
>everything was fine as long as they had the ussr as a trading partner
*ussr as subsidiary. setting a welfare state without taking into account that they were khruschev's puppet was a recipe for disaster
>autarkies dont work
im fully aware. im not advocating for an autarky
>actively trying to collapse your economy at every opportunity
not since the special period
>so you do accept that it is the correct course of action within their current material circumstances?
im arguing that sez are a futile attempt at sustaining socialism that doesnt work and instead sustains capitalism inside the island, the cuban bureaucrats are signing up the cuban proletariat to be exploited in exchange for pennies and misery and it doesnt help cubas economy

>>1816251
>correction *because of the cuban bureaucracy the american bureaucracy sees no need to send in troops for a "peacekeeping mission". accumulation for international capital is already guaranteed by the party
exactly. this is a good thing in the current material circumstances.
>foreign capital molds itself to internal markets
that makes no difference to cuba, only to porky who will want higher productivity but rather than simply imposing worse conditions on the workers, he has to deal with an entire government as the mediator. this is another good thing.
>this is just wishful thinking
no lmao, thinking that a leftcom revolution can occur in cuba without international repercussions is wishful thinking
>the cuban proletariat have been rightfully protesting against the bourgeois economic solutions of the politburo.
as well they should. but calling for the overthrow of the party is retarded, especially by foreigners
>they dont really need to do anything to worsen cubas state nor want to take care of cubas economy
total nonsense lmao, again read marx. if international porky could easily turn cuba into an ancap paradise with minimal government, he would at the drop of a hat
>ussr as subsidiary
what the fuck does that mean? a subsidiary is a company controlled by another company, so are you implying cuba controlled the ussr? what?
>setting a welfare state without taking into account that they were khruschev's puppet was a recipe for disaster
this is more nonsense lmao, you say you dont want an autarky but you are against all foreign agreements and trade, especially with states friendly to cuba and invested in its survival. the contradictions are palpable
>not since the special period
even more nonsense. in the last decade the cuba sanctions were a political football, us relaxes them then tightens them then relaxes them again
depending on which ghoul is currently president
>im arguing that sez are a futile attempt at sustaining socialism that doesnt work and instead sustains capitalism inside the island
this is what leftcoms don't understand: pressing the gas just allows capitalism to restore itself in a situation where it is still a hegemonic economic system. any moment where a socialist state is weak will be exploited by foreign adversaries. at least right now cuba has a prospect for maintaining its limited form of socialism, but the cia agents will immediately fly in en masse as soon as the government looks weak. do you really think its worth gambling cuba's future over ideological purity?

>>1816281
>exactly. this is a good thing
lmao not even trying to hide its gorbachevist tendencies nor denounce them as detrimental for socialism
>he has to deal with an entire government as the mediator
*he wants to deal with an entire government as the mediator. which by the way only benefits the bureaucracy and no-one else
>without international repercussions is wishful thinking
it SHOULD have international repercussions. cuba was the lighthouse of the revolution back then, it can be so again
>especially by foreigners
cuban proletariats are the ones protesting
>if international porky could easily turn cuba into an ancap paradise with minimal government, he would at the drop of a hat
no need to, the bureaucrats already act in their interests
>what the fuck does that mean?
that the ussr simply used cuba as a puppet, and the cuban welfare state overly relied on soviet subsidies
>but you are against all foreign agreements and trade
no, im saying foreign agreements and trade in cuba dont benefit the cuban proletariat
>pressing the gas just allows capitalism to restore itself
capitalism is already restored in cuba
<inb4 every progressive step is actually regressive
>do you really think its worth gambling cuba's future over
its worth everything, the cuban proletariat need to stop suffering from the politburo parasitism
>over ideological purity?
over the improvement of their material conditions and a new political strategy that doesnt mimic bourgeois recipes for solving the economic recession. it has nothing to do with "ideological purity", im talking about real, concrete material facts

>>1816281
btw you smell like those guys who fucking hate khruschev and gorbachev but fail to see how the khruschevite bureaucracy used cuba for its own chauvinist interests instead of actually trying to spread the revolution (in fact, yugoslavia was the one supporting the cuban revolution, the cuban communist party was supportive of batista and against the rebels under orders of moscow, and the revolt started as a national liberation movement, not a socialist revolution)

>no, im saying foreign agreements and trade in cuba dont benefit the cuban proletariat
>>1816652
Investments are one of the best ways to stimulate any ecnomy.
This is comon knowledge, that any economist would probably agree too.
PROVE ME WRONG LIBERAL :)

>>1816652
>gorbachevist tendencies
lmao what? cuba is not the ussr, it doesnt have the economic capacity of the ussr, it doesnt have the military power of the ussr. the material conditions of both of these countries couldn't be more different. and what does "gorbachevism" even mean in this case? if it means economic liberalisation, that is a tendency that all states must grapple with for as long as capitalism is the dominant mode of production, whether they are socialist or not. the main difference between socialist and capitalist governments is whether liberalisation is a goal in of itself or a lever that can be temporarily pulled if necessary. to assume that you can simply ignore this completely is idealist
>which by the way only benefits the bureaucracy and no-one else
idealist tripe grounded in hate towards socialism. i bet you also believe that the bolsheviks just wanted to enrich themselves, so they psyopped the whole proletariat into a revolution
>it SHOULD have international repercussions. cuba was the lighthouse of the revolution back then, it can be so again
the repercussions wont be what you think they will be. it will be a us led police action intended to restore capitalism
>no need to, the bureaucrats already act in their interests
they act in the interests of the workers far more than capitalist bureaucrats do
>cuban proletariats are the ones protesting
i'm not arguing with them, they are correct and they will also be correct when they end up negotiating with the party for what is possible to accomplish like they have many times over the years. i'm arguing with you, overwhelmingly likely to be a westerner with bad opinions
>that the ussr simply used cuba as a puppet, and the cuban welfare state overly relied on soviet subsidies
yes, ussr bad, cuba bad, workers good but every state that supports workers is bad. bilateral agreements between socialist states also bad. leftcom brainrot lmao
>no, im saying foreign agreements and trade in cuba dont benefit the cuban proletariat
lie
>capitalism is already restored in cuba
yes and ussr was a state capitalist country. yet more leftcom infantilism. there is a massive difference between a free market with untethered porky, and a state controlled market with pro-worker policies imposed on it
>over the improvement of their material conditions and a new political strategy that doesnt mimic bourgeois recipes for solving the economic recession. it has nothing to do with "ideological purity", im talking about real, concrete material facts
you are talking about it as if cuba lives in a vacuum. the best part is that ultimately the disagreement between leftcoms and people who are not idealists is material conditions. your idealist tendencies should give way to negotiating with the existing cuban state, because the survival of the socialist cuban state goes far above every other ideological consideration.

even if the cuban government resisted all change for the next 100 years and stayed the same it is, it would still be preferable to free market capitalist restoration in cuba. anyone who believes otherwise is exposed as a lib
>btw you smell like those guys who fucking hate khruschev and gorbachev but fail to see how the khruschevite bureaucracy used cuba for its own chauvinist interests instead of actually trying to spread the revolution
the interests of the soviet bureaucracy have always aligned far more with the interests of the workers, than the interests of the bourgeoisie ever did. did they align fully? no of course not. but i am a firm believer in harm reduction over ideological purity. the ussr did nothing wrong with cuba, and it is thanks to their relations with the ussr that the cuban revolution survived the threat of amerifat onslaught.

>>1803059
Crazy that you still come here to make a thread every time a small protest in Cuba happens..
>Hundreds of protesters
Wouldn't even make local news in my or your birth country, come on…

100% of the population of Cuba has electricity
78 year life expectancy
1.2% unemployment rate
71% of individuals using the internet. In 2000, it was less then 1%
53% of parliament seats are held by women, from 28% in 2000.

Cuba imports more then 80% of its food from another countries, since their production is basically sugarcane, tobacco, citrus and coffee.

In 1991, Cuba industrial output was 8% of GDP. In 1997, it was 17%. In 2022, it is now 11%.

Cuba still has a hig Human development index of 0.764.

>>1816806
>that is a tendency that all states must grapple with for as long as capitalism is the dominant mode of production
LMAO not even trying anymore you menshevik pig
<socialism is when international capital can broker millionaire deals at the cost of proletariats welfare
<socialism is when capitalism
>idealist tripe grounded in hate towards socialism
protests, and their cause (the deteriorating living conditions of cuban proletariats) say otherwise
<every criticism is both ultra and reactionary at the same time, just dont question anything ok?
>the repercussions wont be what you think they will be
right, those rioters are actually reactionaries and cia agents in disguise too right? actually trying to form a vanguard party of the working class and governing with proletariats interests in mind means the restoration of capitalism, unlike what the cuban bureaucracy did during the special period, thats being practical
>overwhelmingly likely to be a westerner with bad opinions
im a working class latin american, if you want to start a battle of ad hominems, you reek like a yankee dogmatist
>yes, ussr bad, cuba bad
inward critiques fuel improvement. i guess lenin and marx shoudlve never said anything about the paris commune, it was perfect and no aspect of it should be subject of criticism
>bilateral agreements between socialist states also bad
if the agreement was bilateral then the cuban economy wouldnt have collapsed after the dissolution of the ussr
>state controlled market
favouring a bureaucratic structure divorced from the working class
>with pro-worker policies imposed on it
budget cuts on basic services as a way to solve the recession is not pro-worker. its a common strategy among bourgeois economists
neither is guaranteeing accumulation for international capital with the sez and luxury tourism
<inb4 this "everybody wins" solution is not a social democratic deviation
>negotiating with the existing cuban state
if there is anyone worth its salt inside the cuban bureaucracy they wouldnt tolerate what the government is doing to the cuban proletariat. they are the ones endangering the revolution, not the protesters
>the interests of the soviet bureaucracy have always aligned far more with the interests of the workers
then i guess it dissolved because reasons. dont look up which kind of people ended up taking over corporations during the restoration of capitalism

>>1814542
Based

>>1817043
I cant believe someone would be so fucking retarded or disingenuous so Im convinced its just a troll

>>1818067
good comeback

>>1818191
Damn, China must've bombed your country, so sorry for your loss…

>>1817022
The pic is good but Cuba has had multiple military adventures in Africa

>>1818363
(that was a good thing tho)

>>1818363
millitary aid to revolutions are based.
what china did for korea in their war should have been the rule to every revolution.