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 No.1806172

Why is green part so much richer and racially whiter than red region? Is it because they were once part of Austria while the other was part of Spain? Also fuck the stupid one hundred filter, I'm writing this to bypass it

 No.1806192

you're not on /pol/ uyghur, the 100 word requirement is there for a reason
>racially whiter
why are americans racially fatter than the rest of the globe?

 No.1806265

>>1806172
Anon somehow I don't think you'd sit here and let me teach you the history of Europe, the Mediterranean, and the development of the capitalist mode of production via consuming other modes

 No.1806283

Read gramsci

 No.1806285

We have an appropriate thread where to discuss all things wop:
>>695716
Btw, those in the green part are whiter because the ones in the red part are greener and the ones in the white part are redder. That's how we do things down here in Wopistan and, as Madonna said on that t-shirt, we do it better.
And now get some glorious Italo Disco.

 No.1806290

>>1806283
And don't forget to listen to SABRINA while you do! Cultural hegemony will get much, much easier!

 No.1806328

>>1806172
Installing corrupt northern politicians in the South and then siphoning the profits from there North, mostly

 No.1806349

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>>1806172
The river valleys of northern Italy allow a creation/concentration of wealth (with medieval capital) strong enough to form states, but not strong enough for one to conquer the rest. The alps acts as a natural barrier to external stronger states whom ,also in competition, cannot outcompete each other to conquer the region
Creating a time/space contextual petri-dish for mercantile value accumulation that domino effects over a millennia despite historical circumstance changing.
You know why they are whiter anon they are further north - the differences between Austria and Spain are equally geoeconomics - the 100 word requirement did its job fishing your presumptions out your mouth

 No.1806351

africa starts are rome unless you're german in which case africa starts at the alps unless you're french in which case africa is everything beyond the rhine unless you're bri'ish in which case all of mainland europe are primitive subhuman apes

 No.1806354

capitalism developed earlier in the north, which is why it seems wealthier
as for why they're "whiter", idk retarded 19th century race science ig?

 No.1806361

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>>1806351
>unless you're bri'ish in which case all of mainland europe are primitive subhuman apes
they sometimes include the scots, and the gael, and the picts, and the jutes to that list

 No.1806372

Just to be clear: since the end of ww2, there has been a massive migration from the south to the north and especially in larger cities a large percentage of the current population is not fully "northern" anymore or isn't such at all. That said, I don't know if people in some remote desolate wasteland west of the Atlantic think about Mediterranean peoples as melanodermic - i.e. n¥gg€r$ - but that's not the case. In general people here have a slightly darker complexion than most people you will find north of the Alps and some are darker than others, but anthropologically speaking this is not Sub-Saharan Africa. I don't know if it's some kind of nineteenth century "race science", some hotep ideology twisted and turned on its head or what. Black Africans started coming in the last few decades due to modern immigration and they are relatively more concentrated in northern regions, considering the south has fuck all to offer in economic terms.

>>1806361
It reminds me of that famous Benjamin Franklin spergout he had about him travelling to Europe and everyone outside England was "swarthy". He later withdrew that piece, tho.

And now get some Sophisti-pop after the Italo Disco listenings. Plus try to get "Lo sviluppo dell'economia italiana. Dalla ricostruzione alla moneta europea" by Augusto Graziani. It's only about the second half of the twentieth century, but it's a good starting point.

 No.1806969

>>1806354
>capitalism developed earlier in the north
the north industrialized far faster and is therefore also richer
capitalism is the reason why the south is poor in actuality, the northerners prefer exploiting them than helping them develop
which is also the case for modern day Slovenia vs the rest of the ex-Yugoslav countries

 No.1806986

>>1806969
We were actually not far from closing the gap. Then Cassa del Mezzogiorno was shut down. Then IRI was disbanded.
But hey, this allowed to create a very profitable tourism industry entirely based on scamming people and exploiting workers.

 No.1806989

>>1806172
Wow all different slaves are so different maybe we should focus on how different we are instead of slave masters.

 No.1807095

>>1806969
>>1806986
There two large currents, I would say. One goes back many centuries, the other one is more recent.

In the middle ages, there were plenty of small states with very rich economies and some even with a thalassocratic projection all across the Mediterranean. They were centres of culture and of intellectual development. Stuff like banking technique, double entry bookkeeping, the use of vulgar as a language of culture and administration instead of Latin, perspective in painting and art, advanced navigation techniques, the first western translation of the most advanced Arabic and Indian works on mathematics, a revived interest in Greek classics fostered by Byzantine learned men escaping Ottoman conquests, even the first documented use of gunpowder in battle in Europe and I don't know how many other shit that some silly Anglo brags about as muh western civilisation was first seen here back then. In general, as another anon has said, various circumstances made this process relatively more successful in the north, even though the south at this point wasn't as relatively backwards as it would become later, and indeed one of the thalassocratic republics was based in the south, plus some southern kings developed a reputation as protectors of culture and the arts, with schools of poetry and medicine developing there. Also, exchanges with the Arab world were facilitated by a residual linguistic knowledge after the Arabic domination of Sicily had ended, which btw was seen as a high point in terms of prosperity and civilisation.
Long story short, tho, is that all this diversity proved fatal and large unitary states - France, England, Aragon and Castille - and the Holy "Roman" Empire could wield an ever increasing influence in domestic political struggles, plus the fourteenth century brought about a decline in the prestige of the papacy after the move from Rome to Avignon - before that, even the Emperor could shit himself for fear of being excommunicated and his authority rendered void in the eyes of other Catholic rulers, meaning everyone in Western and Central Europe back then. Also, the age of discovery shifted the importance of many trade routes away from the Mediterranean and, while the north was still close to Central Europe and its continued growth, the south was now more and more an isolated backwater that fell behind in the following centuries. Now the colonies and their trades - spices, gold, silver, slaves, whatever - brought an accumulation of capital never seen before in other countries, but not so much here.

More recently, in the 1800s, when capitalism as we intend it was already a thing, there were still many different states, mainly in the north, while Rome and central Italy was under Papal rule and the south under a large but very backward kingdom, originally called the Kingdom of Naples and after the Congress of Vienna the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies. In the early modern age Spain held sway, but after its decline, Austria started to have a heavy influence in many states, in part because ruling families were all related to one another and they just shifted their centre of gravity. Long story short, Savoy (an independent French speaking dynasty full of freaks and cunts controlling first Turin, then Genoa and later Sardinia) and the Lombard-Venetian Kingdom (a part of the Austrian empire with a relative degree of autonomy and an importance as the Austrian outlet to the sea) were the ones with modern capitalism, relatively modern and efficient administration, modern laws, the first railways and even more advanced agricultural economies (the Austrians pushed modern agricultural handbooks to local farmers with the help of the clergy because they wanted to increase productivity and therefore tax revenues). Meanwhile, other petty states were relatively meh, the Popes in Rome timidly started some industrial activity very late in their rule, while the south was basically serfdom all around with barely some elementary industrialisation in just a handful of places and a very small trading middle classes, all under a cartoonishly backward monarchy and aristocracy, basically a cross between Dixie and Tsarist Russia, just with better climate and food.
In a few decades, and courtesy of some astute international intrigues, the Savoy freaks managed to take Austrian Milan and Venice, the other petty states in the North and Centre - biggest prize Tuscany, plus they chipped away almost all of the Papal States - then the entire South in 1860, they proclaimed the Kingdom of Italy in 1861 and finally they took Rome and put an end to Papal rule in 1870 - just because France was btfo'd by Bismark and they were acting as big daddy for the Pope until Napoleon III was in power. Now they had completed a work no one could do in the previous fifteen centuries, but they basically left all the structures of local power in place - especially the most vicious ones in the South - and they were happy with this unfinished business even tho they formally extended official Savoy laws and institutions to the whole kingdom.
And it's not even the whole story… But I'll stop here for now.

 No.1807115

>>1806172
> whiter
Questo l'ha scritto un padano

 No.1807118

>>1806969
Dixiebol and now padanoleaguebol
When will our right-wing stop copying the yanks?

 No.1807133

>>1807118
>When will our right-wing stop copying the yanks?
Probably when US hegemony colapses
, the US is after all responsible for propping up right wingers that are the the closest to them

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 No.1807507

>>1807115
Fa ridere perché Torino pare Marrakech e Milano pare Medellin.


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