No.1764921[View All]
So, let me point out that I’m scheduled to help kids practice English, and I’ve been looking for ways to discourage them from emigrating.
One of the interesting things I’ve discovered is that the ratio of average wages between China and the United States is only 3.6, with the average worker receiving 16575 or so USD per year. Factor in cost of living differences (PPP), and the ratio is only 2. Then consider that first tier cities in China often have a GDP per capita twice that of the national average, and guess what? You can live in China, work in China, and enjoy a material lifestyle that is 67-100% that of the United States, all the while touching, as others have asked me to, good, Socialist grass.
That is, of course, assuming you have high-end skills you can be paid for in Beijing, Shanghai, Nanjing, Hangzhou, or Wuxi.
So, let me show off what Beijing is like. This, I think, is from the Wangfujing shopping district near Tiananmen.
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https://yzbm.tsinghua.edu.cn/publish/s05/s0501/detail/1f82f1b6-3025-4a1a-9b8e-638e59048403Jesus Christ, these prices. Roughly 6k USD tuition for many very decent programs, a year. Good luck getting in, though; internationally Tsinghua is roughly on the level of Cornell or UToronto.
No.1791028
>>1791018 Tsinghua is more than just "good luck"; it is the MIT of China.
It represents the pinnacle achievable by millions of students who dedicate over 15 hours daily to frantic studying. From elementary to high school, every student hears about "Tsinghua and Peking University," and getting into Tsinghua is a matter of pride, much like a League of Legends player's thoughts about T1.
It is the alma mater of Xi Jinping and Hu Jintao, the cradle of talent for China's leaders.
The future of Tsinghua students comprises China's most elite. They will become top engineers at Huawei, future millionaires, or even the General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party.
清华可不止“good luck”，它是中国的麻省理工。
它是每年数以百万的学生在每日超过15个小时的疯狂学习的所能达到的最高点，每一个学生从小学到高中都会听到“清华北大”，考入清华就是光宗耀祖的事，就像一个玩英雄联盟的人对t1的想法。
它是习近平和胡锦涛的母校，是中国领袖的人才摇篮
清华的学生未来是中国最精英的一部分，他们会是华为的顶级工程师，未来的百万富翁，甚至国家总书记
No.1791030
>>1764921I only speak English and I've never shown much talent for languages, would it be a good idea for me to go and teach ESL?
No.1791031
>>1791030I mean foreign languages, my English is pretty good but I don't really remember much of what I learned in school and just do it instinctively
No.1791038
>>1791028>The future of Tsinghua students comprises China's most elitePretty sure that's Oxford, Cambridge and London School of Economics tho.
No.1791039
>>1791030 At Tsinghua, Japanese teacher graduated from the University of Tokyo. If your degree is similar, maybe you have a chance. People like me, however, will never have the opportunity to be associated with such a super school throughout our lives.
在清华的日本教师是东京大学毕业的，如果你的学位类似说不定可以。像我这样的人一辈子和这种超级学校无缘啦。
No.1791040
While in China you need top be like the top 1 out of 100k-500k students in a province to get into Tsinghua it's actually relatively easy to get in as a foreigner. You just need to meet the requirements of the Confucius Institute or Chinese government scholarship.
No.1791042
>>1791039>>1791040I didn't mean at that university, just a regular school like OP.
No.1791044
>>1791042 Foreigners are indeed highly regarded in some schools in China. There might be a chance, but I think you should at least obtain a teaching qualification or something similar.
I once had a high school teacher whose husband was Canadian or Australian, I can't remember.
外国人确实在中国的一些学校很吃香，说不定有机会，不过我觉得应该至少要拿到教师资格证之类的东西。
我曾经有个高中老师的丈夫是加拿大还是澳大利亚人来着
No.1791049
>>1791040Especially as a Westerner you have great chances because even when it comes to these programs most applicants are from South Asia, Southeast Asia or to a lesser degree Africa. So basically there is somewhat of a quota for Westerners, since applicant numbers aren't that high in the first place. China is still considered to be a very distant foreign country with a difficult language.
No.1791054
>>1791028>The future of Tsinghua students comprises China's most elite. They will become top engineers at Huawei, future millionaires, or even the General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party.they just leave china for better pay
>>1791030the ship has sailed
No.1791056
>>1791054 https://www.tsinghua.edu.cn/info/1182/109393.htm
> The proportion of this year's graduates pursuing further education abroad is 8.0%. Among undergraduate students, the ratio is 15.6% for those going abroad and 65.2% for those continuing their studies domestically. For master's students, 5.9% choose to study abroad, while 6.9% opt for domestic programs.Not that many, probably about one-tenth. The status of Tsinghua students is actually better domestically in China.
> 本届毕业生出国（境）深造比例为8.0%，本科生出国（境）深造比例为15.6%，境内深造比例为65.2%，硕士生出国（境）深造比例为5.9%，境内深造比例为6.9%。没有那么多，大概十分之一，清华学生的身份在国内实际上更好
No.1791068
>>1791056>出国（境）深造比例it means education right
No.1791069
>>1791056i think you quoted the wrong phrase, also the another phrase does not have any numbers
No.1791076
>>1791028You misunderstand me. I’m doing it in consideration of preferential admissions for foreign students or programs specifically geared for foreign students.
If admissions are still lax enough, it’s a great fucking deal. Lax requirements + discount tuition, just to have a white, leftist face.
No.1791140
This is interesting. US News is ranking Tsinghua above MIT and Stanford for Computer Science… again. Wow, this is ridiculous.
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/computer-scienceWelp, looks like there's 0 chance to get in. Maybe Beida is more favorable?
No.1791143
oh hey op I also live in a capitalist country I can take some photos too if you want
No.1791145
>>1764928It's uncanny how similar this is to Western Values™
I need a hug…
No.1791146
>>1791145Except China actually practices what it preaches, consistently might add
No.1791169
>>1791145The funny thing is, the Chinese definition of democracy is different than the Western definition:
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_26.htm No.1791182
China truly is AESD (Actually Existing Social Democracy)
No.1791284
When my wife she used to visit her parents in semi-rural China, she'd give them £50/$100 bills, and these would be awesome and impressive gifts.
Now its the opposite, even though we're "doing better than ever". The relative living standards are slipping faster than people think.
No.1791634
>>1791182DotP. Still more left than any actual social democracies. Although the Succdem smell is getting awfully strong.
No.1791644
>>1791634>Still more left than any actual social democraciesDefinitely not on the minor issue known as healthcare
No.1792145
>>1767643>I know a few folks who’ve gotten job offers for Chinese tech firms in the Nanjing / Wuxi / Jiangsu area, and will emigrate. OCamlers.How did they find them? My 5 year plan is to move to China.
No.1792229
>>1792145a former anti chinese advocate(chinese) is now advocating alt-righters to work in china instead, that schizo was praising china from a rightist prospective
i dont know how he found offers for these fellow schizos either
No.1792231
>socialist
if you are picking current year chyna over burgerstan for socialist larp reasons inspite of other incentives then I don't know what to say anon. are baizou xenopatriots really this cucked?
No.1792236
>>1791182>>1791634Modern China arguably has policies that favour the proletariat less than the social democratic countries of the 40s, 50s and 60s into the 70s. Probably because the bourgeoisie there is far less threatened. Also social democracy is
bourgeois politics entering the proletarian movement it is more heinous of a problem for a communist party because it is revisionism, i.e.
bourgeois politics entering the vanguard of the proletariat No.1792255
>>1792145OCaml compiler nerds. China always needs talented Westerners to defect.
No.1792257
>>1791644Reformed multiple times; another run of reforms may be necessary.
>>1792231Median wages have grown 33% in real terms over the last decade, and are likely to grow another 25% over the next. However bad it may seem, China is still an upper middle income country and cannot afford full socialism (it has only, in terms of development, gotten to the level of the Soviet Union in 1989).
Labor conditions continue to improve year by year as the country becomes more prosperous, and socialist LARP in Beijing or Shanghai is only a 30% pay cut, while socialist LARP in first-tiers is only a 40-50% pay cut, all very affordable, especially since expats with valuable skills are well-paid and global interlinkages easily allow a standard of living comparable to Western countries, especially European ones.
No.1792258
>>1792236China resembles social democracy, but it is not. It is a socialist country encapsulating a vibrant capitalist sector that is kept subordinate to the dictatorship of the proletariat. The Haute Bourgeoisie is carefully kept under the thumb of the Dictatorship of the Proletariat, and the petites are kept as Red as possible.
It is admittedly the most liberal of actually socialist countries, but it is swinging back to the left.
No.1792894
>That is, of course, assuming you have high-end skills you can be paid for in Beijing, Shanghai, Nanjing, Hangzhou, or Wuxi.
>assuming you have high-end skills you can be paid for in Beijing, Shanghai, Nanjing, Hangzhou, or Wuxi.
>assuming you have high-end skills
>high-end skills
Oh really
No.1830949
>>1830848>Sort of frightened to imagine what this place looks like when it’s lit only by anti-aircraft fire. Wut
No.1832611
>>1830949Hey, hot Sino-American conflict isn’t unimaginable. There are literally air raid shelters built throughout the city, and underground bunkers below the Forbidden City.
No.1834055
Beijing sounds like a lovely place to visit and a nice culture.
No.1835328
I was unironically linked this thread as a refutation to China being revisionist
REMEBER COMRADES GOMMUNISM IS WHEN GOOD THING
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