No.1764921[Last 50 Posts]
So, let me point out that I’m scheduled to help kids practice English, and I’ve been looking for ways to discourage them from emigrating.
One of the interesting things I’ve discovered is that the ratio of average wages between China and the United States is only 3.6, with the average worker receiving 16575 or so USD per year. Factor in cost of living differences (PPP), and the ratio is only 2. Then consider that first tier cities in China often have a GDP per capita twice that of the national average, and guess what? You can live in China, work in China, and enjoy a material lifestyle that is 67-100% that of the United States, all the while touching, as others have asked me to, good, Socialist grass.
That is, of course, assuming you have high-end skills you can be paid for in Beijing, Shanghai, Nanjing, Hangzhou, or Wuxi.
So, let me show off what Beijing is like. This, I think, is from the Wangfujing shopping district near Tiananmen.
No.1764924
Thinking of doing an exchange semester there. What's your Chinese level and what resources have you been using?
No.1764928
>>1764925Rich and powerful
Democracy
Cultured
Harmony
Liberal
Equality
Fairness
Rule of Law
Patriotic
Dedication (Respect Work)
Honesty
Friendliness
No.1764930
>>17649245-6 under old HSK. Mostly HSK textbooks.
No.1764936
>>1764930alright
Is an (old) HSK 5 or HSK 6 diploma something that is considered 'valuable'?
No.1764941
>>1764936Acceptable, but Beida and Tsinghua were always looking for high 5 or HSK 6.
The old HSK was really watered down.
TOEFL / TOCFL were geared toward a 10k word vocabulary, and Chinese is analytic, so 10k, or current HSK9 is more useful.
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Thing is, I was in Xidan recently and thought to show shots of the beautiful city to someone, but they weren't there anymore. So I thought, why not show it to Leftypol instead?
No.1764946
>>1764941Thanks, cool pics btw.
No.1764955
>>1764953Damn demon slayer is still selling
No.1764959
>>1764953>soon-to-be-closed Bankruptcy or political reasons?
No.1764970
>>1764965What, are you pissed off at me because we can actually implement socialism and make it not suck?
Or are you a glowie giving me a death threat because I’m promoting brain drain from the decadent (and decaying) capitalist West to Communist China?
My cousin grew up wanting to be a Revolutionary Martyr. If you wish to make me the same, I’ll be honored.
No.1764976
That the Western world has become very Sinophobic could be a useful argument.
Also healthcare and homelessness.
No.1764977
>>1764959I’m guessing; they used to be 4 floors, now everything but the first is closed. Most likely bankruptcy.
The following isn’t Beijing, but it’s a posh hotel in Anhui, where a night only costs $50. And yeah, that’s a room service drone.
No.1764987
>class collaborationism with the petite bourgeoisie is good socialist grass
No.1764993
>>1764987>when workers own their own fucking kitchen ware to make food to customers they are little capitalistsLmao at owning means of production.
No.1765004
>>1764993>Lmao at owning means of production.real socialism understander hours who up
No.1765009
I’ll go show shots of Tsinghua soon, which US News and World Reports accidentally ranked higher than MIT in the computer science category. And yeah, they put out a video of students singing the Internationale for the CPC’s birthday in 2021. Beautiful, multiple languages.
No.1765056
westoid sexpat
No.1765108
That's pretty cool.
No.1765129
>>1764921>I’ve been looking for ways to discourage them from emigratingWhy do they want to leave?
No.1765130
>>1765100Um, the people ELECTED those bureaucrats I'll have you know
No.1765159
京✌v我50
No.1765165
>>1765129this. the china hate is everywhere.
No.1765176
>countries leftypol consider socialist
>Russian Federation because USA hate them so they're socialist anti imperialist third worldist revolutionaries
>China because reason above but they have the biggest economy in the world and I need to cling on to some hopium
Hey I like China too but I'm realistic about what they are and what they aren't. I'll give China this, I respect the Dengist factions for not dismantling China rather than the absolute trash of what Yeltsin and Gorbachev and what the garbage (criminal illegitimate state) Russian Federation. Just as I don't recognize the Zionist entity as a legitimate state I don't recognize the Russian Federation as a legitimate state. The dismantling of the Soviet Union was criminal, done by criminals, that is currently run by criminals.
No.1765389
>>1765176China is both socialist and not socialist; one thing I point out is that China is a HUGE country and regions differ both in wealth and development.
Beijing itself is very obviously socialist because most of the SOEs are headquartered there, and it's the headquarters of their security state. In other regions, porky tends to have more power and influence.
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I'm just curious, would you rather have China stayed under a Maoist planned economy? We certainly wouldn't be where we are right now; there would have been acceptable GDP growth, but the sheer amount of affluence Dengist and other semi-capitalist policies have produced has made a massive transition.
And, since the Communist Party is in control, the dial can be flipped back once the society is sufficiently affluent.
Consider the Easterlin Paradox; i.e, the correlation between GDP per capita and happiness breaks down after around 14-20k USD per capita GDP.
That is to say, do you want the figurative Cave Marxism which Stalin slandered Mao with, or do you want a hybrid economy with decent economic growth at least until Easterlin kicks in?
No.1765390
>>1765389>China is both socialist and not socialistWrong. Communist China is fully socialist.
No.1765411
>>1765390Define socialism.
In the definition of dogmatists, socialism means a command economy under the control of a dictatorship of a proletariat.
Weaker definitions, such as my own, simply state a situation wherein the bourgeoisie does not control the state, but the state controls the bourgeoisie.
No.1765415
What is the worst place you can visit in Beijing?
No.1765419
>>1765411Socialism is the socialist mode of production. China is socialism.
No.1765420
>>1765415I'm trying to find out if the shantytown, the home of the "Ant Tribe", near Wukesong still exists.
The southern part of Beijing is relatively underdeveloped, and if you want to look at the downsides, on some days, the pollution is so intense visibility is reduced to 1-2 km.
But in Beijing proper, you will see blue skies quite often, especially since heavy industry has been moved out of the immediate vicinity.
As someone who's stayed in and lived in China quite often, I'm quite used to the bad days. In fact, this time I came back, I couldn't recognize the town because I was so used to omnipresent air pollution, with the entire city being hidden in smog much of the time.
No.1765497
>>1765000Image rotation broke
No.1765505
>>1764992based and Engels pilled
remember even Marx gambled on the stock market
western lefties buying into conservative talking points about how they all have to live in a garbage can and own nothing in order to be a true socialist is one of the saddest and most pathetic things to have ever happened
No.1765509
wow it looks like any city, but Chinese™️
No.1765515
>>1765415Honestly, what you mean is some place sanitation doesn’t work. That’s why I think of Wukesong; even the slums have running water, electricity, and good trash service, so I don’t even feel it anymore!
No.1765521
>>1765508 Um, it's better to blur the detailed numbers of those license plates, as they may reveal local information.
Are you a foreign friend touring in Beijing? Typically, people don't specifically visit Christian churches but rather local temples.
呃，最好打码那些车牌的详细数字，这些车牌是可能会泄露当地信息的。
你是一个到北京旅游的外国友人吗？一般人不会专门去基督教堂而是本地的寺庙。
No.1765526
>>1765521Deleted. This is near to certain offices, of course.
Catholic Church was because it was nearby, and because I had a tragic circumstance. My great grandmother was actually Catholic, iirc. I also showed it off to a radical evangelical I knew stateside.
As for temples, I am interested in doctrines, theological or otherwise, but while I have an intellectual affinity for Mahayana, the organized church doesn’t impress me.
Thank you for reminding me of certain political issues.
No.1765533
>>1764921>material lifestyle that is 67-100% that of the United StatesI hate you GDP idiots so goddamn much
No.1765547
>>1765526 那么我考考你，你上的什么中学，高考多少分数，考入的什么大学？学生还是在职？月薪多少?一般来说北京核心地区的人都是精英。
我曾经就读于江苏的一所四星级高中，高考失利400多分只能去读一所大专，作为一名学生，在校期间我父母会给我1500一月作为生活费
No.1765550
>>1765547实际上，我是国外出生的，回来就是为了看有什么发展机会。
关于这儿的人们；大部分是老外；我原来说过中国到了一定的发展程度；他们那么喜欢马克思主义他们就可以移民到中国。
我就是最近发现中国的一线城市生活水平已经可以跟外国比了。江苏浙江二线也差不多了。
我就希望让外国同志也了解；有能力，天才，他们应该帮助中国发展社会主义。跟外国已经没有那么大的区别了。
No.1765553
>>1765533I’m going by average incomes, and I’m only using PPP modifiers to compare cost of living. Tier 1 city + cost of living differences, if you love Marxism so much and you have high tech skills, why not consider learning Chinese and contributing to a more-or-less socialist society? It just takes about 2000-4000 hours of work to develop fluency.
No.1765558
>>1765550 相较而言，你不是一个土生土长的中国人，不过你对中国很有兴趣，会专门到这里来，我会期待或许有一天能和你在中国见面。
No.1765606
Gonna move to China for for my postdoc soon, I'll try to do all sorts of touristy stuff when I've got the time. Got any recs which aren't on the standard tourist radar?
No.1765613
>>1765606Yan'an is the "revolutionary holy land". I was there last week and it's pretty cool
No.1765621
>>1764953how is the otaku culture in china? do they have their own manga market like in japan?
No.1765643
>>1764992>I’m national bourgeoisieUnlikely. You're probably petit.
>>1765509Bruh. Cities are very very different everywhere. Even within the same country, whatever the country might be.
No.1766009
>>1765643I guess he's national bourgeois as opposed to global bourgeois, not signalling a big weath.
No.1766148
>>1765003its johannes and genesis respectively
>>1765159they wont get this
>>1765558网友们说的不错，都在哪里线下见面啊？
No.1766150
>>1766009National in this context means subservient to the needs of the nation; I.e, won’t bitch if party repossesses assets.
No.1766696
Sorry, while the deal is, Beijing is a DC analogue, it seems unusually hard for me to find raw poverty in Beijing these days. Maybe it’s because I’m used to it, or maybe because it’s been almost 10 years since I was here for real.
I’m actually proud of finding the slums near Wukesong the last time, because it was evidence that people will fall through the cracks no matter where you go, but it seems Beijing has cleaned up.
Beijing, like DC is in its respective country, is the richest city in China. But much unlike DC, I see no chocolate city, no ghetto. Perhaps I can attempt once again to find the cesspools, but for now, I’m really sick. It’s justice for trying to say bad things about China.
If you guys aren’t clear about the previous posts at Wukesong, I was being sarcastic.
No.1766700
>>1764921>You can live in China, work in China, and enjoy a material lifestyle that is 67-100% that of the United States, all the while touching, as others have asked me to, good, Socialist grass.Perhaps if you at likely the spawn of petit boug, those of us who are assigned as physical workers of course not.
The contemporary left aways reveals itself.
No.1766702
>>1766696>But much unlike DC, I see no chocolate city, no ghettohmm
No.1766708
>>1766700>people who work hard under socialism are compensated more than someone who sits around in bed smoking weed all day<ZOMG CHINA IS LE CAPITALIST DENGIIDS DENGOIDS DENGOIDS NOT REAL COMMUNISM MUH UYGHURS MUH HOHOLS CHINA BAD CHINA BAD RUSSIA BAD REEEEEEEE!!!No
No.1766711
>>1766700Iirc, in the United States, social mobility has crashed. It now takes a lifetime to go from working class to middle class, or middle class to upper middle class. Europe, in contrast, is much more equitable with life outcomes.
As far as China itself, it is not a worker’s paradise, unless you only consider the reduced exploitation. There are parts of China that are seriously poor and backwards, and volunteers and Party members sent to help uplift shitholes get made into Chinese TV series.
There are industries with heavy working hours, but these are the sane ones compared to their American counterparts (I-banking expects 98 hour workweeks on average, whereas the 996 everyone complains about is 72).
If, say, I survive this illness, I’ll show you Gansu ( the poorest province in China), and maybe I can show you Yunnan.
Included: pics of Hefei, the provincial capital of Anhui, which is toward the middle of the pack for Chinese provinces.
No.1766712
>>1764992Whats your business? Or is it general holdings?
And why slum it up with factory schlubs?
No.1766713
>>1766712Trying to work on pharma, but the money hasn’t come in yet.
No.1766715
>>1766713Also, the only reason I have this silver spoon is because of a good, devoted, Party member. We shaln’t forget our roots.
No.1766732
>>1766715That kind of consciousness evaporates fast in historical terms, especially when money depends on it.
If bourgies are needing special visits to remind them then i would say its already going.
No.1766738
>>1766495I can’t figure out who’s selling in the first shot, but in the second shot, it’s Denza, 腾势, a joint venture between Mercedes Benz and BYD. Mercedes sold 80% of their stake to BYd after transferring tech to BYD, while Denza was selling trash cars.
Now that BYD has 90% ownership, Denza is viable as a marquee for luxury cars that target Mercedes in China, and possibly globally.
As for Zeekr, they’re Geely (a major Chinese gas car company’s EV marquee)’s attempt to compete with Tesla.
Using CATL’s battery technology, they sell a car with 1000 km of advertised range and 500 miles of actual range.
Going itself, it’s all very good, very sleek, Tesla clones.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeekr No.1766741
>>1766732I’m suicidal most of the time, so don’t count on it. Might just drag the money in then toss myself from a building, as all good porkies should.
No.1766744
>>1766510*keyboard smash*
My name is HFEWFNKL JNCNJN NGF6
No.1766759
one thing I haven’t shown off to you for national security reasons is how many freaking EVs there are in China. I’d guess 80% of the transit service is EV, and due to preferential licensing, 40% of the cars I see in China are EVs. And they’re not all expensive as heck; BYD makes a city car with 160km or so range for 12k USD. Look up the Seagull.
No.1766824
>>1766708Weird thing to sperg out about but okay.
My bets on aspiring foreign sex pest.
>>1766711>Europe, in contrast, is much more equitable with life outcomesThat's not really true at all. I cannot speak for USA but in Europe where I have mostly lived your class is more or less assigned by birth and local, there are of course exceptions but they are well, exceptions, my point was its asinine to tell anyone just to move to china, by definition of class society only a very small privileged or lucky will be able to do this.
Incidentally, I do have a family member who did live in China (non European, seasian one of those lucky and exceptionals) and my understandings is you can't even really get visa's to live but only temporary if you have a job there, it's very specific and fairly restricted as I remember.
No.1767643
>>1766824It’s almost impossible to nationalize except if you are ethnic Chinese apropos China.
That’s why I’m saying, if you have high end skills, can bring in cutting edge technology and science that China hasn’t managed to buy, copy, or hack already, you should consider China.
However, I’ll point out that 90% of Western scientific elites, even ones with leftist leanings, aren’t willing to consider decamping, and the ones that do likely do not use this forum.
The factory worker anarchist (for whom I have great respect) I think is most representative of the average poster here.
That said, I know a few folks who’ve gotten job offers for Chinese tech firms in the Nanjing / Wuxi / Jiangsu area, and will emigrate. OCamlers.
No.1771131
So, on my recent medical visit.
Did not have insurance, paid about 160 USD for ambulance, CT scan, and blood test.
Bathroom, as usual, was atrocious.
No.1771147
>>1771131On the other hand, in comparison to a US-based ER, we completed all relevant treatment within 3 hours, which is a big improvement on the 6 hour delays I had in the United States.
Overall medical system is not superior, because the ridiculous prices people pay stateside go to something, but the hospitals were fast and efficient. The doctors showed professionalism and care. I assume if I were covered under local insurance, it would also have been cheap.
No.1771159
>>1767643>It’s almost impossible to nationalize except if you are ethnic Chinese apropos China.I'll give rightoids one thing burgerville is among the easier contries to immigrate to. Everywhere else requires you to have the secret to cold fusion and read, write, and speak the local language at a Ph.D. of that language's literature level and not be black or brown.
No.1771167
Go inside of Hutongs instead of just walking past the facade, go to the poor neighbourhoods near the port areas and such, photograph the old people trying to collect enough paper and bottles to buy food that day.
No.1771177
>>1771167Wrong city. I think I may have once met a bottle-picker, but the hukou policy means that:
#1, it is very hard to live in Beijing if you don't have a residence permit.
#2, if you have a residence permit, you have a bunch of welfare guarantees.
Moreover, most of Beijing's hukou (slum) dwellings were demolished around 15 years ago for the Olympics.
I think it's actually the opposite of DC in this way; in DC, it's the suburbs that are affluent, but the city center is a ghetto (both in the Black and in the Polish sense).
In Beijing, on the other hand, it's the city center that's affluent and I think you have to go all the way to the fifth ring road to see poverty.
But in general, given the extremely high level of development (for China) in Beijing, and the Communist government, you really have to go out of your way to find true slums and poverty in Beijing.
There's a reason Beijing residence permits are the most coveted in China.
No.1771187
>>1771164I never said it was a good idea and the right wing hysteria is absurd. But the road to citizenship is easier in burgerville than if I tried to move to even just the UK and I already speak English.
No.1771195
>>1771177>most of Beijing's hukou (slum) dwellingsPlenty still around when i was there 4 years ago
>Wrong cityPerhaps, i didnt live in a 1st tier city after all, which just made the actual problems of poverty more visible.
Wish they would invest more in basis housing, theres plenty of hutongs in beijing, even one next to the apple store on the most expensive street in the country, with collapsed roofs badly patched with tarp and rocks to keep them in place.
No.1771199
>>1771195(Oh and the housing in the countryside is also pretty shit. Mao Zedong never thought of basic insulation (or non-collapsed houses) i guess)
No.1771214
>>1771195>Plenty still around when i was there 4 years agoThat's the problem. China is the only nation on this planet where living conditions drastically improve by the year not by decade.
No.1771219
>>1771187>But the road to citizenship is easier in burgerville than if I tried to move to even just the UK and I already speak English.It's also relatively easy to get work and accepted to live in the USA paperless, such as overstaying a travel visa.
No.1771402
>>1771195Some of them were kept as they were traditional housing of the Han ethnicity. But if I go around and look for hukou housing, as I've said, sanitation service is provided, and there's usually ACs around and high-speed internet.
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I'm just saying that, after my abortive effort to find shitholery in Wukesong, I think it's pretty hard to find true poverty in Beijing.
It's not necessarily that China or Beijing is a worker's paradise, as I've said, Beijing has residency controls, but the social values and the city's political important makes it so that Beijing should look and feel socialist.
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Tianjin, Xionggan (nearby sister cities) are much more likely to be "honest", since Tianjin is a port city with a lot more heavy industry, and Xionggan is where they're diverting people who want to live in Beijing, since Beijing is technically "full"
No.1790957
韩国服饰城
South Korean apparel.
No.1790964
>>1790961Walking over to Tsinghua now; friend has an interesting request.
No.1790975
ur pics are hurting my neck op
No.1791003
Man, Beijing would look beautiful at summer.
No.1791011
Looks like Tsinghua’s under high security and I can’t enter casually. Probably reasonable given the value of the folks there, and the research being conducted.
No.1791018
https://yzbm.tsinghua.edu.cn/publish/s05/s0501/detail/1f82f1b6-3025-4a1a-9b8e-638e59048403Jesus Christ, these prices. Roughly 6k USD tuition for many very decent programs, a year. Good luck getting in, though; internationally Tsinghua is roughly on the level of Cornell or UToronto.
No.1791028
>>1791018 Tsinghua is more than just "good luck"; it is the MIT of China.
It represents the pinnacle achievable by millions of students who dedicate over 15 hours daily to frantic studying. From elementary to high school, every student hears about "Tsinghua and Peking University," and getting into Tsinghua is a matter of pride, much like a League of Legends player's thoughts about T1.
It is the alma mater of Xi Jinping and Hu Jintao, the cradle of talent for China's leaders.
The future of Tsinghua students comprises China's most elite. They will become top engineers at Huawei, future millionaires, or even the General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party.
清华可不止“good luck”，它是中国的麻省理工。
它是每年数以百万的学生在每日超过15个小时的疯狂学习的所能达到的最高点，每一个学生从小学到高中都会听到“清华北大”，考入清华就是光宗耀祖的事，就像一个玩英雄联盟的人对t1的想法。
它是习近平和胡锦涛的母校，是中国领袖的人才摇篮
清华的学生未来是中国最精英的一部分，他们会是华为的顶级工程师，未来的百万富翁，甚至国家总书记
No.1791030
>>1764921I only speak English and I've never shown much talent for languages, would it be a good idea for me to go and teach ESL?
No.1791031
>>1791030I mean foreign languages, my English is pretty good but I don't really remember much of what I learned in school and just do it instinctively
No.1791038
>>1791028>The future of Tsinghua students comprises China's most elitePretty sure that's Oxford, Cambridge and London School of Economics tho.
No.1791039
>>1791030 At Tsinghua, Japanese teacher graduated from the University of Tokyo. If your degree is similar, maybe you have a chance. People like me, however, will never have the opportunity to be associated with such a super school throughout our lives.
在清华的日本教师是东京大学毕业的，如果你的学位类似说不定可以。像我这样的人一辈子和这种超级学校无缘啦。
No.1791040
While in China you need top be like the top 1 out of 100k-500k students in a province to get into Tsinghua it's actually relatively easy to get in as a foreigner. You just need to meet the requirements of the Confucius Institute or Chinese government scholarship.
No.1791042
>>1791039>>1791040I didn't mean at that university, just a regular school like OP.
No.1791044
>>1791042 Foreigners are indeed highly regarded in some schools in China. There might be a chance, but I think you should at least obtain a teaching qualification or something similar.
I once had a high school teacher whose husband was Canadian or Australian, I can't remember.
外国人确实在中国的一些学校很吃香，说不定有机会，不过我觉得应该至少要拿到教师资格证之类的东西。
我曾经有个高中老师的丈夫是加拿大还是澳大利亚人来着
No.1791049
>>1791040Especially as a Westerner you have great chances because even when it comes to these programs most applicants are from South Asia, Southeast Asia or to a lesser degree Africa. So basically there is somewhat of a quota for Westerners, since applicant numbers aren't that high in the first place. China is still considered to be a very distant foreign country with a difficult language.
No.1791054
>>1791028>The future of Tsinghua students comprises China's most elite. They will become top engineers at Huawei, future millionaires, or even the General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party.they just leave china for better pay
>>1791030the ship has sailed
No.1791056
>>1791054 https://www.tsinghua.edu.cn/info/1182/109393.htm
> The proportion of this year's graduates pursuing further education abroad is 8.0%. Among undergraduate students, the ratio is 15.6% for those going abroad and 65.2% for those continuing their studies domestically. For master's students, 5.9% choose to study abroad, while 6.9% opt for domestic programs.Not that many, probably about one-tenth. The status of Tsinghua students is actually better domestically in China.
> 本届毕业生出国（境）深造比例为8.0%，本科生出国（境）深造比例为15.6%，境内深造比例为65.2%，硕士生出国（境）深造比例为5.9%，境内深造比例为6.9%。没有那么多，大概十分之一，清华学生的身份在国内实际上更好
No.1791068
>>1791056>出国（境）深造比例it means education right
No.1791069
>>1791056i think you quoted the wrong phrase, also the another phrase does not have any numbers
No.1791076
>>1791028You misunderstand me. I’m doing it in consideration of preferential admissions for foreign students or programs specifically geared for foreign students.
If admissions are still lax enough, it’s a great fucking deal. Lax requirements + discount tuition, just to have a white, leftist face.
No.1791140
This is interesting. US News is ranking Tsinghua above MIT and Stanford for Computer Science… again. Wow, this is ridiculous.
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/computer-scienceWelp, looks like there's 0 chance to get in. Maybe Beida is more favorable?
No.1791143
oh hey op I also live in a capitalist country I can take some photos too if you want
No.1791145
>>1764928It's uncanny how similar this is to Western Values™
I need a hug…
No.1791146
>>1791145Except China actually practices what it preaches, consistently might add
No.1791169
>>1791145The funny thing is, the Chinese definition of democracy is different than the Western definition:
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_26.htm No.1791182
China truly is AESD (Actually Existing Social Democracy)
No.1791284
When my wife she used to visit her parents in semi-rural China, she'd give them £50/$100 bills, and these would be awesome and impressive gifts.
Now its the opposite, even though we're "doing better than ever". The relative living standards are slipping faster than people think.
No.1791634
>>1791182DotP. Still more left than any actual social democracies. Although the Succdem smell is getting awfully strong.
No.1791644
>>1791634>Still more left than any actual social democraciesDefinitely not on the minor issue known as healthcare
No.1792145
>>1767643>I know a few folks who’ve gotten job offers for Chinese tech firms in the Nanjing / Wuxi / Jiangsu area, and will emigrate. OCamlers.How did they find them? My 5 year plan is to move to China.
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>>1792145a former anti chinese advocate(chinese) is now advocating alt-righters to work in china instead, that schizo was praising china from a rightist prospective
i dont know how he found offers for these fellow schizos either
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>socialist
if you are picking current year chyna over burgerstan for socialist larp reasons inspite of other incentives then I don't know what to say anon. are baizou xenopatriots really this cucked?
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>>1791182>>1791634Modern China arguably has policies that favour the proletariat less than the social democratic countries of the 40s, 50s and 60s into the 70s. Probably because the bourgeoisie there is far less threatened. Also social democracy is
bourgeois politics entering the proletarian movement it is more heinous of a problem for a communist party because it is revisionism, i.e.
bourgeois politics entering the vanguard of the proletariat No.1792255
>>1792145OCaml compiler nerds. China always needs talented Westerners to defect.
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>>1791644Reformed multiple times; another run of reforms may be necessary.
>>1792231Median wages have grown 33% in real terms over the last decade, and are likely to grow another 25% over the next. However bad it may seem, China is still an upper middle income country and cannot afford full socialism (it has only, in terms of development, gotten to the level of the Soviet Union in 1989).
Labor conditions continue to improve year by year as the country becomes more prosperous, and socialist LARP in Beijing or Shanghai is only a 30% pay cut, while socialist LARP in first-tiers is only a 40-50% pay cut, all very affordable, especially since expats with valuable skills are well-paid and global interlinkages easily allow a standard of living comparable to Western countries, especially European ones.
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>>1792236China resembles social democracy, but it is not. It is a socialist country encapsulating a vibrant capitalist sector that is kept subordinate to the dictatorship of the proletariat. The Haute Bourgeoisie is carefully kept under the thumb of the Dictatorship of the Proletariat, and the petites are kept as Red as possible.
It is admittedly the most liberal of actually socialist countries, but it is swinging back to the left.
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>That is, of course, assuming you have high-end skills you can be paid for in Beijing, Shanghai, Nanjing, Hangzhou, or Wuxi.
>assuming you have high-end skills you can be paid for in Beijing, Shanghai, Nanjing, Hangzhou, or Wuxi.
>assuming you have high-end skills
>high-end skills
Oh really
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>>1830848>Sort of frightened to imagine what this place looks like when it’s lit only by anti-aircraft fire. Wut
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>>1830949Hey, hot Sino-American conflict isn’t unimaginable. There are literally air raid shelters built throughout the city, and underground bunkers below the Forbidden City.
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Beijing sounds like a lovely place to visit and a nice culture.
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I was unironically linked this thread as a refutation to China being revisionist
REMEBER COMRADES GOMMUNISM IS WHEN GOOD THING
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