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No.1789545
Regional War or World War Three, what are people's thoughts on the matter?
The entire situation just keeps escalating, it's horrifying while at the same time we have this genocide continuing, Israel's pushing the Palestinians to the Sinai, however it seems that The Resistance is continuing on too, as long as Israel doesn't win then Israel loses, but with the backdrop of a regional war or world war three, I can't see what happens next.
No.1789560
>1789072
You are pathetic.
No.1789578
>>1789575every piece of early 20th century br*tish history should be shat on for a hundred years anyway
No.1789587
>>1789543Lel, that's like a running joke between Arab families, everyone from Morocco to Oman knows it, reminds me of a mediocre Ramadan joke I heard. Here's the translation
An old man comes to a imam and tells him, "my sheikh, I am a devout Muslim, but I have not fasted not one Ramadan in my 70 years of life, how do I atone for my sins?"
The sheikh goes "my goodness! when a Muslim refuses to fast a day in ramadan without an excuse he can be forgiven if he feeds a homeless man, but refusing to fast hundreds of ramadan days for 70 years? I am not certain, but to be forgiven You'll have to choose between four choices" the man says "what are they?"
"Fasting non stop for two decades, or feeding the whole homeless population of china by yourself, or liberating Palestine by yourself, or solving the shia sunni schism by yourself"
No.1789602
>>1789587This is the real motive behind jihadism.
Its not about getting virgibal wives. Its about wanting to end Ramadan.
No.1789604
>>1789602To be fair fasting sounds like an awful experience, can't exactly blame them
No.1789605
>>1789604Fasting is probably alright or even good for you but not drinking water all day is just retarded.
No.1789606
>>1789604Can confirm, not even a Muslim and I fast because I don't want to be fat again
No.1789659
>>1789637Israelis would be general off worlders, with the angli-isrElis being harkonens
No.1789661
Palestinian Movement of Public Employees:
In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful
O employees of all government facilities and institutions, salutations of honor, appreciation, and respect to you for your patience and endurance through months of suffering, which will extend if we do not unify our voices to reject this suspicious silence from the government and successive governments.
Futhermore,
The bitter and miserable reality that we have been experiencing for many months of suffering, hunger, poverty, and humiliation of the employee is what made us break our silence to reject this deliberate humiliation by the government towards us. By God, we have been harmed and swallowed the bitterness of humiliation and deprivation, and we have exhausted our efforts, working hard in order to provide ourselves and our children with a living.
However, we have become unable to provide our living needs due to the low, eroding salaries, which have lost their salaries and can no longer be borne by anyone. So here we are today, knocking on the government’s door in order to present to them our demands for the last time before we increase our legitimate escalation, and we say to them: Enough shirking your duties and responsibilities towards us, for we are the ones who have been patient, endured, worked, and struggled to serve the country and the citizen.
We have been very patient and given many opportunities to improve the situation. We have reached a point where we can no longer tolerate this, after we knocked on all the doors you closed, obstructing sit-ins and erecting military checkpoints, we demand the following:
1. Obligating the government to pay salaries immediately and regularly.
2. Scheduling of dues.
3. Amending the Civil Service Law, ensuring equality among ministry employees without discrimination.
4. Raising the standard of living.
5. Working to create a union body for employees, which we have called for more than once, but the government is determined to stop this.
We in the Public Employees Movement, after consultation and response to our demands, in which we did not find any interest or sense of responsibility from the government, decided the following:
1. Declaring a general and comprehensive strike in all ministries, starting tomorrow, Sunday 10/3/2024, until demands are met. The strike will not be lifted except with an official statement from the movement.
2. Continued escalation of the movement and the implementation of protests and marches according to the time frame that will be announced in due course by Movement.
Public Employees Movement - 9/3/2023
No.1789677
>>1789575>>1789578They ought to just have all their artifacts stolen. Haul stonehenge out of there and split it up between Egypt, Sudan, and Kenya.
No.1789690
>>1789637Had this conversation about the Dune movie recently. I just read through the second chapter of the book and am gonna watch the movie someday soon
No.1789701
>>1789694Send them the British family to serve as hard laborers
No.1789737
>>1789696
>Islamic Middle East regimes
bruh, i see this segment everywhere, they act like the Middle East and north africa is one big united Islam jihad ball ready to uppercut Israel and the Western world by tomorrow morning and oppress all the women and lgbtq folks, it's not.
Egypt is a military dictatorship that fights the Islamic Brotherhood and complies with Israel when it can
jordan is a dirt-poor lib monarchy with an influencer for a king who generally praises the Brits and Americans and wishes for more cooperation with them
lebanon is an ultra-sectarian fuckery of a democracy where Orthodox and Maronite Christians rich guys with French relatives and Sunni rich guys with French visas fight over who can be the most corrupt.
syria is led by a secular Alawite guy fighting Islamists and Turks and Kurds and the opposition and fucking everyone plus ISIS, the biggest Islamists in the middle east who are as you know, funded by yours truly.
iraq is either led by corrupt ministers too busy phoning Swedish men asking for sex, or by the Iran-aligned Shias in Mosul, or by al atwani zoomers
turkey is turkey, no matter how many times you wish to believe Erdogan is this evil islam regime man who will enact shakira laws and remove israel and women off the earth, he is still a pussy to NATO to do shit. he won't do shit
the leadership of Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states, when are not busy bombing Yemenis and Somali refugees, is building nightclubs and buying football teams and fucking trans tik tok influencers and is generally trying to make the population less radical and pouring money into normalizing with Israel, totally sounds like what Islamic regimes do to me.
nobody cares about Oman, they do their thing, they seem generally ok, not too Islamic, they still oppress their foreign workers though, both the ones from Europe and southeast Asia equally, half a point.
so I guess Iran is the only real oppressive Islamic regime here, that's it?
but still, even if the lgbtq, the women are oppressed, and they are, not by Islamic regimes but by the general culture of the people there, are you supposed to tell me, that the solution to """"""""liberate""""""""" them is by supporting an army that literally before every battle starts dancing around a Torah and singing about the death of Arabs as if that's not oppressing the women and the workers and the lgbt folks at all?
No.1789739
>>1789737did you actually responded, i didnt see fit to post here
No.1789741
So basically the group owner was a islamophobe from all the start and he guised his islamophobia under militant atheism, and he let that win over marxism and turned in a zionist.
In the end he supports palestinean occupation by the IOF because israel is more progressive (on marxist terms) and them abandoned the group and stopped becoming a leftist.
I unironically feel bad with myself because i was very active and the person who got me into MLism became a zionist
No.1789749
>>1789739yes, his reasoning was so retarded I had to do it
>>1789741>i was very active and the person who got me into MLism became a zionistyou know what they say, die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the zionist
No.1789751
>>1789741How does that happen? How do people just
choose their beliefs? Idealism was a mistake.
No.1789759
you see this button? yes, yes, this button right here.
if you press it, Palestine magically becomes free of zionist menace, they all willingly leave by some divine reason.
BUT
in exchange, they come to the country (you) are living in, especially the state you're living in, declare it their new homeland, and the settlers start claiming homes in your country, shooting people who don't comply, they carve a state of their own, then a seat in the parliament. now you have eight million zionists living with you, doesn't even matter if you live in a very small country or an island, all of them are here now
call it
No.1789762
>>1789752god damn that is one awful compass, like the actual compass
No.1789768
>>1789759not pressing it, no way
No.1789769
>>1789752What even is this autism amon I just need to find north..
No.1789770
Reports of resistance operations outside of the walls, can somebody confirm? Also thanks black flag anon
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No.1789774
>>1789768we all got to make a sacrifice
No.1789776
idk if this was posted before i wanted to post useful information here we go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yoj8Sleb9XQ No.1789784
>>1789690based and muad'dibpilled
No.1789791
I guess things aren't going so hot for Israel
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2024/03/israel-quietly-fraying.html
>None of these trajectories are good, nor do they look likely to reverse any time soon. And critically, Israel has never been tested like this. Unlike Russia, it does not have a history of extreme suffering and sacrifice in war, and myth-making around the severity of the pain and the eventual victory. Are too many Israelis unwilling to give what it takes for their nation? No.1789796
>>1789792Nah bet she's amercan.
No.1789810
>>1789792also, Jesus Christ why are Chinese users so savage? this must be why the firewall was created, Xi was in fact, protecting us undeserving Westerners from the wrath of a billion cyberbullies.
iranians are also too savage for their own good too, when that Soleimani guy died, a crazy Iranian imam said "America killed an Iranian hero, so Iran must kill an American hero, but Who is Iran supposed to kill in retaliation? What heroes does the US have? Mickey Mouse? Spiderman? Are we supposed to kill SpongeBob Squarepants or the Kardashians?"
No.1789811
>>1789780You can literally see the heat distortion caused by the boolet. Neat.
No.1789815
>>1789767new indie rock album just dropped
No.1789817
>>1789815anon, why don't you name the album for us? I'm sure will come up with a neat name
No.1789821
>>1789819now consider a fleet of camouflaged remote controlled suitcase sized rovers containing miniaturized auto aim sniper barrels. the tech exists now.
No.1789824
>>1789819Artillery strike. That was always the case.
No.1789833
all this thread is twitter screenshots and news updates
i just wanna post music videos for god's sake
No.1789838
>>1789823That's the National Resistance Brigades, the armed wing of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine. They have an all-female section of their armed wing, and several other groups also recruit women.
No.1789843
>>1789839very sorry, it's just, that you hear normies talking about it as an Islam fighting Judaism and Christianity, and you forget the truth after a while.
No.1789846
>>1789843Palestinian christians are equally subjugated, as well as other christians living inside 'Israel'.
This is a historically multi-ethnic, deeply intertwined region where one specific ethnic group has exploited European colonial desires to subjugate the rest
No.1789848
>>1789823putting aside that it's the DFLP. I believe I've ssen a women in uniform in one of these older Hamas rallies. idk
No.1789861
>>1789810Brothers in Hamas, if you capture her, please deal with her yourselves. For God’s sake, don’t send her back to us. Thank you very much.
I hope Hamas guerrillas will kill her quickly.
She won’t live long.
No.1789869
>>1789866Atreides are the White allies.
No.1789874
>>1789866 (me)
On reflection IDK if the Atreides even matter that much. Sure, the story follows them, but had the Atreides dynasty been extinguished, it seems to me the Fremen would still be well on their way to achieving their goals covertly through Kynes' plan.
No.1789875
>>1789866Fusako Shigenobu was Paul Atreides
No.1789880
>>1789856>>1789876>>1789823can't help but think in another timeline, in a world without Israel, these guys would've had an average life, the girls would be going shopping for clothes or doing TikTok videos, and the men would be playing PlayStation games or making YouTube essays, have a job, and have their ultimate worry be paying the bills or what to watch on TV, just like the rest of us, instead here they are, armed and fighting for survival while we watch, I don't know I find it depressing.
No.1789884
>>1789880Try to see it like this; these guys and girls aren’t different from any one of us. They’re normal people, propelled to acts of immense heroism because of the circumstances they’re in. Their circumstances are awful, not gonna deny that, but within every person is the capacity to resist—even at the cost of their own lives.
It might sound corny, but there’s a potential resistance fighter in anyone.
No.1789889
>>1789884thanks for the uplift, seriously it helped, except for the last part, I know I would never make a good resistance fighter. not anyone can survive mentally under the pressure
No.1789913
>>1789891>1988>In the early 1960s, as Israelis were being exposed for the first time to the shocking testimonies of Holocaust survivors at the trial of Adolf Eichmann, a series of pornographic pocket books called Stalags, based on Nazi themes, became best sellers throughout the land.>Read under the table by a generation of pubescent Israelis, often the children of survivors, the Stalags were named for the World War II prisoner-of-war camps in which they were set. The books told perverse tales of captured American or British pilots being abused by sadistic female SS officers outfitted with whips and boots. The plot usually ended with the male protagonists taking revenge, by raping and killing their tormentors.>After decades in dusty back rooms and closets, the Stalags, a peculiar Hebrew concoction of Nazism, sex and violence, are re-emerging in the public eye. And with them comes a rekindled debate on the cultural representation here of Nazism and the Holocaust, and whether they have been unduly mixed in with a kind of sexual perversion and voyeurism that has permeated even the school curriculum.>“I realized that the first Holocaust pictures I saw, as one who grew up here, were of naked women,” said Ari Libsker, whose documentary film “Stalags: Holocaust and Pornography in Israel” had its premiere at the Jerusalem Film Festival in July and is to be broadcast in October and shown in movie theaters. “We were in elementary school,” he noted. “I remember how embarrassed we were.”Best part is how timely it is.
No.1789914
>>1789913I feel like that has the same energy of, was it Oscar Wilde I think? Anyways some dude who saw a renaissance painting of a Catholic saint pierced by a ton of arrows and it made him realize he was gay.
No.1789916
>>1789914>Catholic saint pierced by a ton of arrows and it made him realize he was gay.isn't that Yukio Mishima?
No.1789918
>>1789916Not sure, could’ve been a few folks. I know Mishima could do a no-hands bust by simulating Seppuku. And I think he had his sexual awakening watching either a military March or a Shinto parade.
No.1789926
>>1789843>very sorry, it's just, that you hear normies talking about it as an Islam fighting Judaism and Christianity, and you forget the truth after a while.Well stop interaction with literally mentally retarded fascists.
Normies don't see it like this idf shooting Christian civilians explicitly has even been in the news.
No.1789935
>>1789933It was only, like, 450 Danes, and he opposed the Nakba. Of course, the Zionists hate him.
No.1789939
>Help Jews during the literal holocaust
>Get killed by a group claiming to fight for Jews
unironically behead zionists
No.1789942
Loving the 'no (military) service, no rights.' discourse in Israel.
It's so fucking over for thst place.
No.1789952
>>1789889I mean the thing is, and this may sound dark, no one knows until they’re tested. It’s good you aren’t acting all cocksure (as far too many on the write do) but don’t sell yourself short. One thing that doesn’t get enough attention is that you’re just as capable of surprising yourself as others.
No.1789964
>>1789961Well, someone's getting cut out of the will.
No.1789966
>>1789964the liberals in my family are false conscious lumpen who couldn't save a dime if they tried. there would have been nothing in the will for me. my liberal grandmother has already asked me nicely to pay for her cremation because she lives off her social security, laying around, watching MSNBC all day
No.1789968
>>1789966No insurance policies?
No.1789974
>>1789961Trump is an Israel sympathiser.
>>1789604>>1789605At least Christinaity permits water for fasting.
Also, fasting is morepf a personal affair in Christianity than a community calendar event.
No.1789987
>>1789791>Western military academies do not even study wars of attrition (at 13:50). They consider them to be too primitive.>They are beneath them.Good.
No.1789992
>>1789810Please do not post censored content on this site.
Thank you.
No.1790050
Does Israel manage to just REALLY lie to regular ass Jews or do they all know what the fuck is going on there? I work with this girl who has gone to Israel on birthright and she says her parents are moving there soon but they're these "In this house no human is illegal…" type libs and outwardly seem to be anti-racist but like, there is no fucking way anyone who visits Israel doesn't know what it is going on.
My older brother had an Asian coworker at his tech job visit Israel on a trip and he thought it was like a normal ass country but apparently they treated him like shit and he was absolutely horrified at how they treated the Palestinians that were working in the businesses there so there's just no fucking way any random "liberal, progressive" Jew goes there and doesn't immediately pick up what is going on unless they themselves are racist as fuck deep down
Anyone rolling dubs for Israel gets turned to ashes by Lebanon
No.1790060
>>1789759I'm Indian, so 8 million is a drop in the bucket. Our politicians, bureaucrats and capitalists are even worse than their Zio counterparts, so getting them representation in parliament wouldn't be a problem because they wouldn't be able to compete anyway.
No.1790065
>>1790050>liberal progressives are racistNot surprising.
>Does Israel manage to just REALLY lie to regular ass JewsYes. Although, there is some confirmation bias involved. A libshit Jewish person would be more susceptible to Zionist lies than a leftist one because of their ideological conditioning. It's the same as how Indians talk about Kashmiris or Naxalites.
No.1790066
>>1790050They're probably performative liberals, and their kinds of opinions regularly make it into /pol/ compilations. Also, very white.
No.1790067
>>1790050I'll roll.
Anyways, from what I understand it seems birthright for some causes this weird Jewish ethno-nationalism. I recall briefly hearing about a dude who said his girlfriend at the time went on birthright and broke up with him as soon as she came back because she felt dating a gentile was turning her back on her Jewish heritage or what have you.
That aside, I think what you're seeing is something I've discussed before where I think, to at least a few Jews, the "Jewish Identity" has allowed for a few of them some amount of critique without discomfort.
What I mean by that is, for example, you can see some ultra-progressive white women out there. And they can talk on and on about how much white people are awful. All the awful things they did. And to some extent they can separate themselves from that "white" identity by harkening back to historical oppressions of women. I've even seen a few, as absurd as it sounds, suggest that there's some kind of imagined solidarity or sympathy between white women and blacks because "they were both oppressed by white men" (even if white women crying and lying got plenty of black men killed, historically)
Things like the colonization of the Americas, or slavery, or the genocide of the Natives, y'know Jews can point to a history of anti-semitic pogroms and the fact that most of that horrific stuff was overseen by ethnic Europeans and it provides some historical distance in a way it wouldn't for, say, WASPs. You see this in other ethnic groups too, I think Stavros Halkias once had a joke about laughing when he saw a black kid yell at a redneck kid for slavery, when the black kid confronts him his teacher runs up and says
>"No, you gotta understand! The Greeks had nothing to do with slavery!"Israel is, first and foremost, a Jewish ethnostate. For the first time in a thousand years, the Jews have a nation of their own. And the fact is, there's
far less distance from Israel's crimes for Jews than there is for, say, the genocide of the Natives. They can't claim they're merely ancillary to it, or uninvolved, or what have you. It's a state entirely for the Jews, committing crimes in the name of the Jews. And now all these nice, liberal Jews have to reckon with Israel.
To their credit, there's plenty of anti-Israeli Jews, and huge swathes of the Jewish Community (in Germany especially) have proven themselves to be sincerely dedicated to their ideals. But a few, an unfortunate few, have made themselves hypocrites. Of course, /pol/ usually finds these hypocrites and tries to insinuate that they're representative of all Jews, nothing can be further from the truth, but that's the sad fact of history; should Palestine be destroyed, the voices that rose up apartheid and against genocide will be relegated to a footnote at best.
It's particularly bizarre watching this unfold as just some white guy. I'm not quite used to this dynamic.
No.1790068
>>1790050I mean look at your own society and extrapolate from there. Jews are just like any other group, only more so.
Or however the saying goes.
No.1790070
Biden continuing to arm Israel and then using the genocide as a fun live-fire exercise for some spiffy new Pentagon joint command thing is just too much man. Why does the US government always do this shit. Just change policy. But it's always escalation, escalation, escalation.
No.1790071
>>1790067>Jewish ethnostateAshkenazi ethnostate. Judaism is a religion, not an ethnicity. Darker skin = worse treatment, and if you dare to be black, you get Depo Provera, whether you want it or not.
No.1790075
>>1789759Thunderdome Deathmatch
alright sure, it'll be like a rematch
No.1790105
>>1790091That's just another point revealing Zionism to be, in reality, a white supremacist project. Which makes Pew Research all the more hilarious in the naked contradictions Jewish Israelis display.
Actual religious states push
conversion of designated heathens, but Haredim and Datiim, who overwhelming support religious law and maintain being Jewish is a matter of religion mostly want Arabs expelled. And Haredim don't even want to physically contribute.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2016/03/08/israels-religiously-divided-society/>This is even true within Israeli Jewry. Particularly among Haredim and Hilonim, few adults say they have many close friends from outside their own community, and intermarriage is rare. In addition, the vast majority of Haredim say they would not be comfortable if one of their children were, someday, to marry a Hiloni Jew – and vice versa.Fucking on Palestinians is the only thing holding their "society" together.
No.1790119
>>1790091>>1790105>muh white riceHaredi heavily lobby against military service and are looked down on by many zionists.
Zionism favors assimilation of different jewish ethnicities into one, as they see them as artificial remnants of being exiled.
The IDF is mostly brown, west bank settlers are no longer just Ashekenazi and resemble the general brown-ness of Israel and the future of Israel (if it has one) is brown since the distinction between white-ish and brown jews becomes irrelevant outside of orthodox sects as intermarriage increases. Israel as a white nationalist state mainly exists in the minds of some leftists and liberals who can't belive that darker skinned humans can build ethnoationalism and colonial structures akin to what whites did.
No.1790134
>>1790105I would say Judaism blends ethnicity and religion so much as to make it really difficult to analyze whether Israel can be considered a "Jewish State" as distinguished from an "Ashkenazi State" as you mentioned, the Haredim want the Arabs expelled.
Now beyond that, the minutiae of trying to distinguish Israel from the Jewish people, to me, seems a little silly given all the grief that comes with falling into the "White" category. Rarely is there any special attention paid to whether the "White" American is Polish or Czech, they're simply "White" and with that term comes some amount of socially enforced guilt for slavery and colonialism.
I'm going to say something extremely controversial here, but Israel is going to exist as a stain on the Jewish people's honor for generations, in much the same way that the colonization of America is for White Americans. Because if Israel succeeds, it doesn't matter what you're doing now or where your positions lie, your grandchildren will be cursed with that guilt all the same.
No.1790139
>>1790119The role of white supremacy is in maintaining Western support. Israel may be full of brown people, but it needs to project an outward image of whiteness to keep Western chvds on board
No.1790141
>>1790119I think the reason why many libs and leftist mistake Israel for a crakkka ethno state is because of how Israel always paints it's promotional image to the world, as this European-valued and western and civilised and democratic and capitalist and familiar-to-Americans country living peacefully in a sea of brown Muhammedeans. On every ad and history book in Israel, you'll see pale guys fighting le brown savages, it almost makes people forget Jews aren't exactly all Ashkenazi looking and have their own ethnic tensions
And to be fair, another reason why we think Israel is a ashke ethno state is because they never had a single mizrahi or black Jew for president or prime minister, so we assume they all look like their leaders, when Zionists are confronted about it, they generally say it's because "Ashkenazis are simply better politicians"
No.1790142
>>1790134>I'm going to say something extremely controversial here, but Israel is going to exist as a stain on the Jewish people's honor for generations, in much the same way that the colonization of America is for White Americans. Because if Israel succeeds, it doesn't matter what you're doing now or where your positions lie, your grandchildren will be cursed with that guilt all the same.Literally nobody gives a fuck about white Americans having genocide the Native Americans though. It's like not even a point of contention for anybody. It's just accepted as something that happened and is hand waved away even by fairly "progressive" people, and only the most left of communists seem to even care about it or give it any thought.
Most honkies are
proud of their genocide and arguably even slavery. They don't give a fuck, Israeli's will just build their genocide of the Palestinians into their myth of how sick and badass their Jewish warriors are like a century from now when Greater Israel is a regional power and how they fought against impossible odds to fight off the Ay-rab invaders (while conveniently omitting that they had the backing of the most powerful empires and were mostly fucking on civilians and sandal wearing teenagers with cold war era weapons)
No.1790143
>>1789780>quick, collect the semen!I don't know about that, fam. It looks like the bullet hit him right in the groin area. KEK
No.1790147
I mean hell, you can probably go into any college level US History class in the USA and be like "hey um the genocide of the Native Americans is one of the largest in history" and you'll make everyone profoundly uncomfortable and the professor will probably look at you like you're a fucking moron despite it being 100% true. No one gives a FUCK and it drives me crazy!!! Your country was built on an enormous, world historical crime!!! You are not civilized! You are not righteous!
Gun control? No, we need KKKRAKKKA CONTROL
No.1790148
>>1790134it doesn't matter what you're doing now or where your positions lie, your grandchildren will be cursed with that guilt all the same.
I'm pretty sure Israelis will get around that the same way Americans do, by saying "we defeated the natives fair and square" or "we weren't saint, but the natives had slavery and shit and we abolished it" or claiming that they never had any involvement in the ethnic cleansing because "my parents are Italian and we immigrated in the 90s, way after the native were killed, therefore I dindu"
No.1790150
>>1790067>And the fact is, there's far less distance from Israel's crimes for Jews than there is for, say, the genocide of the Natives. They can't claim they're merely ancillary to it, or uninvolved, or what have you.…what are you talking about?
How is this not as ridiculous as saying you can't claim you were uninvolved in the White Australia policy?
The Zionist project absolutely did not represent Jews. Never has, doesn't, never will. It was founded and run by Zionist Jews, a
subset of Jews who like to pretend it's a religious project or a Jewish project the same way a Nazi will claim their utopian ethnostate is protecting White people like you (if you weren't a commie). That doesn't make you involved or ancillary in the Christchurch shooting.
No.1790153
>>1790142>are like a century from now when Greater Israel is a regional powerYeah, a regional power with fear built in its name, a law to nuke itself if it failed, cum sucking units, male on male rape, institutions that are built to convince every jew not to leave, settler suicide, institutions built in europe to persecute everyone who no like Israel, and jewish mobs that are afraid of being outbred by arabs, and a minister who literally says the only way to keep Israel prosperous is to keep it's neighbors poor and claim their resources.
give me a break, there is only so much billions of dollars they can extort out of the west before going bankrupt
No.1790154
>>1790148>your grandchildren will be cursed with that guilt all the same.No, they aren't. Just think how ridiculous that would be in Mexico, where the average Jose is half and half colonizer and native. The lines between guilty and victim already fully disintegrated there. Reconciliation of crime always strives towards an end. If it's forever, it's not a reconciliation.
No.1790248
>>1789780>missing the second shotshameful display
>>1789792another native of the land 🙏
>>1789810based chinese commenters as always
>>1789821I'm surprised sniper drones aren't more common. I've had in mind to build one for hunting purposes
>>1789823the Koran makes many exceptions if believers' lives are at stake
No.1790347
>>1789823>Aren't females forbidden from fighting in Muslim societies?I dunno man, they seem to have a few historical exceptions
meet al Sayyida al-Hurra (not her real name, just means the free lady), a Moroccan daughter of an Andalusian Moor noble turned pirate queen, after being exiled out of Granada by Ferdinand and Isabella in 1492, she was so furious that she declared in the middle of the city of fez that she will, and I quote "take revenge on the Christian Roman dogs", and then lived a 20-year life of piracy around the Mediterranean and the Iberian Ocean, raiding specifically Spanish and Portuguese ships of their aztec gold and taking their men hostage to sell them to the Turks, and sparing any ship that wasn't iberian, she had an alliance with Barbarossa and raided and enslaved as far as the western coasts of France and the basque, she was overthrown by her son in law the Moroccan sultan because the Spanish king came to him and literally begged him to stop his auntie in exchange for some islands and trade deals.
the reason why many merchant ships surrendered fast when they saw her flag is because of a rumor that "when a ship doesn't surrender, the queen of pirates orders all the captured prisoners to be castrated and sold back into heathen lands as eunuchs" but that was just a fabricated rumor with no real sources
some say her story was the inspiration for the character of Calafia in The Adventures of Esplandián, so she indirectly gave the state of California its name.
and that's just one example, there are many Muslim females like her that went to war, one even fought with the Rashid caliphates.
tldr; Muslims, just like medieval Christians, don't give a shit about female warriors if said female was either royalty or commanded respect
No.1790353
>>1789966>my liberal grandmother has already asked me nicely to pay for her cremation because she lives off her social security, laying around, watching MSNBC all dayNothing to do with anything but you an arrange thst with the hospital so they just get rid of the body either creating it on site or using it for medical testing stuff and you can pre arrange it with the hospital so fam doesn't need to do it. My mother did exactly this because funerals and cremations can be very expensive otherwise.
No.1790384
>>1789833hey man, I have come to respect your ukraine takes more. Thanks for being the voice of reason (unless you were more of a lib than I remember)
No.1790386
>>1789942Isn't that how the draft works? Refusing the draft is a felony, besides getting 5 years prison, you lose your right to vote, own a gun, run for office, etc.
So no service, no rights.
No.1790389
Israeli Sephardic Chief Rabbi: We'll leave if army drafting enforced
Israeli Chief Sephardic Rabbi Yitzhak Yosef threatened a mass departure from the occupation entity if mandatory military drafting was enforced, sparking a great uproar within the occupation entity.
“If you force them to go to the army, we’ll all move abroad,” Yosef said.
Yosef's comments come amid a growing storm over "the drafting of Haredim", adding "We will buy tickets; there is no such thing as forcing us into the army. The state stands on this."
“All these secular people don’t understand that without kollels and yeshivas, the army would not be successful,” he said, referring to institutions where religious men study Jewish texts rather than working or enlisting. “The soldiers only succeed thanks to those learning the Torah.”
It is noteworthy that in 2013, Yosef's father, the former Chief Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, expressed a similar statement, indicating that they would consider relocating abroad rather than being compelled into military service in "Israel". He stated, "We may unfortunately have to depart from the Land of Israel."
Yosef's recent statement carries significant weight, particularly due to its timing, coinciding with the ongoing battles on several fronts - in the Gaza Strip and northern occupied Palestine. These ongoing confrontations have resulted in daily losses for the occupation forces, leading to noticeable strains on their internal cohesion. Moreover, there have been evident rifts among its leaders and politicians. Israeli media reports have also highlighted the prevalence of psychological crises among a considerable number of its soldiers.
Yosef's statement reflects the growing frustration among ultra-Orthodox Jews as pressure increases to abolish the policy granting a comprehensive exemption for religious school students from military service.
Yosef's statement sparked strong objections, with the head of the Israeli opposition, Yair Lapid, condemning them, stating, "Rabbi Yosef's words are a disgrace and an insult to the IDF soldiers who sacrifice their lives for the defense of the country. Rabbi Yosef is a state employee, with a salary from the state, he cannot threaten the state," adding that "Whoever evades the IDF will not receive a penny from the State of Israel."
In turn, the head of the "Yisrael Beytenu" party, Avigdor Liberman, wrote on his account on X: "It is a shame that Rabbi Yitzhak Yosef and the ultra-Orthodox businessmen continue to harm Israel's security and act contrary to Halacha."
Confrontations between the Israeli occupation police force and Haredi Jews have been renewed in light of the latter's protests on Sunday in refusal of the Israeli occupation's law of mandatory conscription with the IOF.
Reporting on the matter, Israeli broadcaster Channel 12 said hundreds of Haredis have been protesting and blocking the roads in occupied al-Quds. Chants such as "We'd rather die than serve" were repeated, while Israeli media reported intense clashes between protestors and Israeli police.
As a result, Israeli police attempted to forcefully disperse protests.
The ultra-Orthodox slice of Israeli society rejects recruitment into the Israeli occupation's military, which may opt for a chaotic recruitment-by-force situation from the regime's authorities. As this issue reflects a grueling domestic conflict from within, the Knesset looks to attract Haredi Jews through services and material means.
It is estimated that there are about 50,000 Haredi orthodox young adults in occupied Palestine who are eligible for military recruitment in the Israeli Occupation forces (IOF). However, only 1,200 are signed up, as of 2019 statistics.
Three weeks ago, the Knesset passed a bill – needing two more readings – that would integrate more Ultra-Orthodox men into the military.
A Haredi journalist, Yanki Farber, suggests that if the bill comes into effect, it will be met with anger and opposition.
Gaza's reconstruction estimated at $90 Bln: El-Sisi
The Gaza Strip's recovery from the damage caused by Israeli bombardment is now estimated at $90 billion, Egyptian President Abdel Fattah El-Sisi stated on Saturday.
Speaking in Cairo, El-Sisi explained that "The cost of rebuilding the Gaza Strip amounts to $90 billion."
El-Sisi said that Egypt “refuses to displace the residents of the Gaza Strip to Sinai, and will not give up its land, and will protect it within its borders that have been inherited for thousands of years.”
Egypt is “making every effort to protect and provide relief to the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip,” stressing that it will not hesitate to work to achieve a ceasefire and bring in aid," El-Sisi claimed.
Last month, World Health Organization (WHO) spokesperson Tarik Jasarevic stated that the war on Gaza has inflicted "unprecedented destruction", Anadolu reported.
Speaking to Anadolu, Jasarevic said that the war has caused unparalleled levels of destruction, with 70 to 80% of civilian infrastructure, including houses, hospitals, schools, and water and sewage facilities, destroyed or seriously damaged.
Jasarevic stated that it will take decades to rehabilitate Gaza's infrastructure, especially the health sector, which is barely surviving.
Jasarevic pointed out that the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development predicts it will take tens of billions of dollars and decades to reverse the overall financial harm, including rebuilding the health system, which is "on its knees," further stating that “only 13 out of 36 hospitals are partially or minimally functioning in Gaza."
He cited a UN analysis that indicated that if the war immediately stopped, it would take until 2092 to restore Gaza's GDP levels in 2022.
In December, analysts who spoke to the Associated Press stated that 'Israel's' war on Gaza is currently among the bloodiest and most devastating in recent history.
In just two months, the occupation destroyed more than what was seen as a result of the battle in Syria's Aleppo between 2012 and 2016, Ukraine's Mariupol, or the Allied bombardment of Germany during World War II and killed more people than the fight against ISIS.
Tens of thousands of residences, as well as schools, hospitals, mosques, and supermarkets, are included. According to UN observers, almost 70% of Gaza's school buildings have been destroyed. At least 56 destroyed schools housed displaced residents. According to the monitors, Israeli attacks destroyed 110 mosques and three churches.
According to Robert Pape, a U.S. military historian, from 1942 to 1945 allies destroyed 10% of buildings in Germany, compared to 33% in Gaza.
Pape detailed that “Gaza is one of the most intense civilian punishment campaigns in history,” calling it one of the most "devastating bombing campaigns ever.”
In 2017, the US destruction in Iraq's Mosul killed 10,000 civilians according to AP. During the three years the Iraqi Army and its allies were engaged in their invasion, they carried out a total of 15,000 strikes compared to the 22,000 strikes the Israeli occupation has carried out in Gaza so far.
No.1790390
>>1789952>One thing that doesn’t get enough attention is that you’re just as capable of surprising yourself as otherspeople are generally capable of way more they give themselves credit for
>>1789961man, stop trying and just take out a reverse mortgage on your parent's home
No.1790394
>>1790070There is no way to maintain your status as a state over a colonized people (and the proletariat and oppressed classes, nations more broadly) without continually escalating violence, as there will always be resistance,
Luckily we as Marxists know how these things work out long term
No.1790425
>>1789637israelis regularly burn really old palestinian olive groves though that took hundreds of years to grow. If they were interested in the olives as a resource, they wouldn't destroy it with such reckless abandon
No.1790426
>>1790423Do fedora tpping atheists like, all stand with Israel?
No.1790427
jesus christ why are krauts so fucking dumb? I hope somebody does something about it, perhaps the local 'riff-raf'
No.1790433
>>1789759Deal. We deserve it.
No.1790459
>>1790347do you wonder if she had nice feet!?
No.1790522
>>1790495Sorry Russians, turns out Zionists were the real orcs all along.
No.1790534
I am absolutely speechless at the new propaganda line from pro-Hamas (which by extension means a lot of pro-Palestine) sources. Correct me if I am wrong, but the new party line seems to be that on Oct 7th Hamas were perfect little good boys who only attacked military targets and then proceed to label anyone who killed civilians as ambiguous "gangs" of regular Gazans. So basically we have hit the logical extreme of pro-Hamas where Palestinians are being thrown under the buss as the savages that the hardline right in Israel portrays them as, all just to protect Hamas's reputation. How the fuck do you not start to get massive internal contradictions from this?
No.1790538
>>1790534You’re retarded. Oct 7th had military targets and there was no systematic use of rape as a weapon of war was alleged by Israeli, the NYT and various members of the genocidal western collation (France and Germany) at the UN, which use this fabricated piece of atrocity propaganda to shield the IDF from international censure. It’s not spin, it’s adherence to a factual basis to refute the world-historical lie printed around the world by the NYT that a great deal of Israeli justification is based on, internationally.
No.1790544
>>1790538There also is no party line. There is just an acknowledgment that Israeli is lying and always has been lying about all of this genocidal justifications. Beheading of babies, vivisection of pregnant women, and use of rape as a weapon of war. All were produced by the same sources, and all were refuted. The IDF, and the Israeli government, produces lies of this sort (UNRWA did Oct 7th) to justify its actions and produce diplomatic reactions that enable it to fulfill its genocidal intent. Your defense of their slaughter is unforgivable and evil. You will go to hell.
No.1790546
>>1790538>RapeI didn't even say anything about rape. You instantly jumped to a conclusion about what I am going to say (mainly because all of the "wuzn't us" cope about Hamas was made in context of rape). However, unless you lobotomized your memory, hundreds of civilians were murdered. Fuck it, lets go full Andrew Tate and hide behind "no hard evidence" and discard rape claims. That still does fuck all to explain all the recorded murder, or the videos of dead bodies being otherwise desecrated. And as of now, it seems that Hamas spokespeople official party line is that all of that was done by random Palestinian "gangs". So which is it? Did Hamas do it, or are Palestinians incapable of integrating with Israelis because the moment they got freedom they butchered a bunch of kibutzes?
No.1790548
>>1790544Its interesting how you are forced to hide behind the few Israeli exaggerations. In this way you seem to entirely dodge the need to acknowledge the brutal videos of dead civilians shot in the streets on Oct 7th because hey, maybe hundreds were killed, but they lied about that one thing!
No.1790550
>>1790548Also as I am writing this, I am reminded that this is the same exact cope that tankies use for gulags. No no tovarish, look at these wholesome 100 city-workhouse style gulags were prisoners would just live in them and then work in local factories, it is all good, da? Please ignore the thousands starving, freezing men who lined the floor of the North Sea canal!
No.1790551
damn thats crazy
No.1790559
>>1790550>Please ignore the thousands starving, freezing men who lined the floor of the North Sea canal!That's the difference buddy, unlike what happened in real concentration camps, Soviets weren't murdering their prisoners - that's just anticommunist atrocity propaganda
>>1790548So what? Palestinians lashing out once in a while does not undo the brutal genocidal regime that was enforced on them, with occasional atrocities happening on fucking camera. Israel just casually dropped bombs, killing kids, waaaay before October 7
And the dumbest shit is, it wasn't Hamas that killed Jewish civilians, it's IDF that did that in a panic mode
No.1790560
>>1790546Hamas targeted military outposts and their objective was to take hostages. I think this is actually an established fact and is not contested. This is why Israel actually needs to produce the lies. Nobody is hiding behind “exaggerations” except for Israel and the general regimes that support them. These “exaggerations” are absolutely critical for the Israeli case against Palestine and to justify its genocidal occupation in the world court, and remove UN obstructions to its starvation campaign and ethnic cleaning objective, such as UNRWA. Israel is currently carrying out massacres at food distributions sites, they have destroyed every hospital in Gaza and nearly all houses in north Gaza. Israelis are blocking the distribution of humanitarian aid into Gaza and are establishing preliminary outposts for settlements in the ethnically cleansed area under occupation control.
No.1790562
>>1790546>hundreds of civilians were murderedYeah and at least some of them were killed by the IOF, but we don't know the real figures.
>Fuck it, lets go full Andrew Tate and hide behind "no hard evidence" and discard rape claims. Almost nobody has actually come forwards alleging rape, and Israeli hospitals and sexual abuse hotlines have no records of treating large numbers of sexual assault victims. In other words it's not a question of victims claims being unverified, its that there are no claims apart from those of the Israeli government (which conveniently name no individuals), and no evidence that such assaults happened at all.
>So which is it? Did Hamas do it, or are Palestinians incapable of integrating with Israelis because the moment they got freedom they butchered a bunch of kibutzes?Hamas probably did at least some of it, or rather their fighters committed warcrimes as all belligerents do in war. If ordinary people did do this then it obviously has more to do with the fact that Israelis have done everything possible to provoke their hatred. If you had opened the gates of a Nazi concentration camp into a German town during the Holocaust and let the inmates roam around unchecked, I'm sure at least a few of them would have done some pretty heinous shit to any German they found. This wouldn't be evidence that Jews are "incapable" of integrating with non-Jews.
>>1790548>In this way you seem to entirely dodge the need to acknowledge the brutal videos of dead civilians shot in the streets on Oct 7thI acknowledge them, it makes zero difference to my position. Zionism must be destroyed, and if Hamas are the ones to do it then good for them. There has never been a liberation struggle without excesses.
>but they lied about that one thingLmao they lie literally constantly. They lied about the music festival being a premeditated target, they lied about killing their own people, they lied about beheaded babies, they lied about Hamas bases beneath hospitals, they told people to go to "safe areas" and then bombed them there. Everything they say should be considered a lie until proven otherwise.
No.1790569
>>1790548>Its interesting how you are forced to hide behind the few Israeli exaggerations. In this way you seem to entirely dodge the need to acknowledge the brutal videos of dead civilians shot in the streets on Oct 7th Every person who suffers violence as a result of the settler colonial conflict is responsibility of the settler colonial authority. The dead got what they deserved and the living should heed the lesson and stop pretending that it is not settler violence when someone else does it in their name.
No.1790571
>>1790562Exactly, Israel is not lying about one thing. They are lying about everything, shamelessly, to everyone. And their lies are intentional made to produce results that advance their goal of genocide. Such as using torture to extract false confessions form UN workers, and then using false confessions to try and eliminate UNRWA which both provides vital aid to Palestine and also grants Palestinians the right to return to Palestine. Would Israel really do that? Torture UN workers and then bring their lies as evidence in front of the UN? Yes they would, and did.
No.1790574
>>1790571>They are lying about everything, shamelessly, to everyoneReminder that these are the same mfs dressed up as doctors and then entered a hospital so they could murder patients.
No.1790575
>>1790571Absolute Nazi behaviour. Those fucks did all those things, too
No.1790581
Another example of the way that Israel relies on specific “exaggerations” about Oct 7th to defend itself.
>The detainees cited in the report gave testimony of beatings, sleep deprivation, sexual abuse and threats of sexual violence against both men and women detained by the Israeli military. Some of the detainees are also reported to have died while in Israeli custody, at times allegedly as a result of the abuse they suffered in detention.
>CNN cannot independently verify all of the accounts of abuse listed in the UNRWA report, but has previously documented similar allegations of abuse by Palestinian detainees.
>The Israeli military forcefully denied claims of sexual abuse of detainees, calling them “another cynical attempt to create a false equivalency with the systematic use of rape as a weapon of war by Hamas.” It also denied that detainees are deprived of sleep and said detainees have access to medical care.
No.1790584
Am I the only one getting dissonance from these "abloo bloo bloo how dare they lie" posts after spending years hearing your USSR defence cop-outs about how its based and cool to lie / cheat / steal / subvert / break international laws / torture / murder / black-bag / assassinate / lock-innocents-into-mental-assylums-California-police-style and so on and so forth, so long as it serves le revolution (re: Stalin's and or Party apparatchiks will)? Why the double standard guys?
No.1790590
>>1790584>you all are hypocrites because I believe in lies about USSRNazi rehabilitation, genocide denial and lies about USSR go hand in hand, and lies about USSR somehow serve as a justification for letting criminals do their crimes
No.1790597
>>1790590Ah yes, because all the lies about USSR are only from the Stalinist period, and nuffin' bad was done afterwards, no sir! Certainly no airliners shot down, no dissidents murdered or pushed under trains, no political wrong-thinkers getting a permanent stay at psychiatric wards, no foreign genocidal despots getting arms support just for being friendly to the WPO, no tanks in Hungary (but those were all nazies so its okay I guess) nor in Prague (this ones a bit harder to justify tho…), none of that!
No.1790599
>>1790584Schizophrenic non-sequitor.
No.1790605
>>1790584Advancing a project of revolutionary socialism is good, and otherwise reprehensible things are tolerable if they advance that end. Advancing a project of genocidal settler colonialism is bad, and reprehensible things done to advance it are even worse than normal.
No.1790606
>>1790597Imagine crying about tanks in Hungary after witnessing what Nazis are capable of when they aren't stopped - like what Israeli Zionists are doing. If anything, there should have been Soviet tanks in Israel half a century ago!
No.1790615
>>1790605So I guess socialism is when you are a Kantian whose sole moral maxim is "doing socialism", you know, that very clear, universally objective and easily definable thing that everyone does and certainly no one fights over the definition of.
>>1790606<Fact:Soviets did a bad in Hungary (to the point that Mikhail "total Circassian death" Suslov thought it was an over-reaction)
<Starting point of cope:>W-well they had a lot of nationalists in the protests and we all know that Hungarian nationalists are close to Nazism so…<End point of cope:>If we didn't tank-crush them all Hungary would have created the Third Reich!!!!
>If anything, there should have been Soviet tanks in Israel half a century ago!Except Soviets were pro-Israel. To quote Elon Musk: "Interesting!"
No.1790616
>>1790605I actually think there’s a difference between what that anon is talking about and the specific examples of atrocity propaganda being used to dehumanize the victims of a genocide and galvanize a population to carry out genocide. It’s a non-sequitur meant to confuse people and avoid sharp criticism and insight into the nature of the massive number of discrete atrocities and crimes against humanity that are occurring all at once before our eyes. Ethnic cleansing and genocide.
No.1790622
>>1790615>Soviets did a bad in HungaryAre you seriously crying about communists squashing a fascist revolt in Hungary?
No.1790626
There’s no “dissonance” here and pretending like you are experiencing “dissonance” in the negative reaction to the dehumanizing rhetoric of a colonial occupation that is demolishing everyone’s home and starving them to death is not believable at all. Tbh.
No.1790627
>>1790622Obviously not, because I don't live in the same pseudo-reality where everyone who opposed USSR were fascists. You just listened to a lot of cope trying to say they were fascists as an excuse to justify what happened. To bring back to Israel, you are equivalent to the people who instantly associate "resistance in Gaza" with "violent and genocidal Islamic anti-antisemitism"
No.1790631
>>1790626Sadly I posted
>>1790627 just before the site loaded your post. Because the colonial dehumanization is exactly what you are referencing is exactly the same as the soviet dehumanization of anyone they don't like as fascists.
No.1790634
>>1790631I don’t agree that calling people fascists is the same thing calling them animals and murdering all of their children.
No.1790636
>>1790628>Soviets become anti-Israel when Israel cements it self as being an American allyInteresting!
No.1790639
>>1790627Even if the retarded hasbara was true, it still doesn't justify the ethnostate of Israel or the recent efforts to ethnically cleanse Gaza and further undermine Palestinian rights by sabotaging the UNRWA.
So, I can wish the 40 decapitated babies and the rape squads were real and you can wail crocodile tears about it.In the end it changes nothing.
No.1790646
>>1790631The desire to try and exploit outrage at the scale of atrocity and horror in Gaza to score retarded points at your half-baked and historically apathetic grudge against some shit you do not know anything about is, frankly despicable. You are acting in bad faith in a thread about the Gaza genocide and I will not discuss anything further with you.
No.1790653
>>1790634U sure I wouldn't find ya posting about how "We need to kill of da fascists and their fascist spawn!!11!1!"?
>You won't find anywhere near the numbers of people being murdered by the state in Eastern Europe during the postwar period as you would in US-aligned LatAm or SEA states.Completely and totally dishonest comparison. You take LatAm and SEA states that are experiencing a violent struggle between revolution and reaction and compare it to a state where revolution already won. A honest comparison would be Russian civil war.
>and I don't think it should be controversial to say that bad things done in pursuit of good endsExcept your good ends have a high tendency of "whoopsy-daisy"ing themselves into bad ends, eg USSR and its social collapse that was exacerbated by the corruption of the Soviet system, or right now whatever the fuck Hamas is trying to accomplish. Israel-Palestine situation is fucked, but hedging on Hamas is just hedging for a bigger disaster.
>>1790648>>1790642>>1790638Of course its fucking tragic that people died, but killing off politicians that you hate and who you attribute as traitors is hardly grounds for fascism. Its equivalent to saying that Taliban killing former government workers is them doing socialism because its anti-American or whatever.
>>1790639Uhuh… its totally not the same when you get posters using the same genocide speak against anyone labeled as nazi.
No.1790663
>>1790458these houthis seem to be really into all these israeli invasion practices. would they actually dare it? they dared going to war with the US and UK navy, they've proven to be reckless
also why the fuck does the site pick a tankie flag for me everytime I want to post some crap?
No.1790667
>>1790653>but killing off politicians that you hate and who you attribute as traitors is hardly grounds for fascismI guess torturing people for being communists is not fascist in the slightest, huh
>using the same genocide speak against anyone labeled as nazi.You are literally equating fighting against a proven genocidal regime with that genocidal regime justifications genocide. You are a retard
No.1790669
>>1790653>You take LatAm and SEA states that are experiencing a violent struggle between revolution and reaction and compare it to a state where revolution already won.No I'm not. Most of those states were functioning bourgeois democracies which were overthrown by the US and local collaborators because they elected left leaning governments. Many of these governments even expressed friendly sentiments towards the US and actively pursued relations with them. They weren't in the middle of any armed struggle, and most of the groups targeted for repression did not espouse violence. The Indonesian Communist Party for example was completely disarmed and non-violent, and yet at least a million of them were murdered. Even if they had been in the midst of an armed revolution, such an uprising would itself be the result of the contradictions inherent in capitalism. Revolutions happen because people find their existing situation intolerable. Any violence used to suppress it would then be a necessary result of capitalism's fundamental structure. If your system generates resistance and you need to use obscene violence to prevent it being destroyed by that resistance, then your system rests on obscene violence. The same is true of Israel actually. Israeli apartheid caused the Palestinians to resist, and in order to contain that resistance they are committing genocide.
>Except your good ends have a high tendency of "whoopsy-daisy"ing themselves into bad ends, eg USSR and its social collapse that was exacerbated by the corruption of the Soviet systemThe Soviet Union had the unique problem of generating a ruling stratum that had little interest in preserving the system that had elevated it to that position. It didn't fall apart as a result of resistance from below which needed to be suppressed with mass murder, which is why its dissolution was so much less violent than the collapse of the Russian Empire. Even while dying socialism is less murderous than capitalism.
>but hedging on Hamas is just hedging for a bigger disasterLike it or not Hamas is the force which has emerged as the leader of the Palestinian struggle, and no foreigner has the authority to dictate to the Palestinians the goals set by this struggle or the means to bring it about. It's absurd to say that these should conform to the wishes of comfortable foreigners and not the needs of the Palestinian nation and conditions they face, which they are generally best positioned to determine. To say something along the lines of "I support the Palestinians but oppose Hamas" is basically to say that you only support an imaginary version of your struggle rather than the one that actually exists.
No.1790670
>>1790658shit translation for the intro
"and we say to the enemy's zionist soldiers, we're gonna hunt you like we hunt geese, and Gaza is gonna be your graveyard, and to those watching, I would like to dedicate today's headshot, to the Yemeni resistance and to al Houthi"
No.1790671
>>1790663must be something with your computer or the CIA is in your walls
No.1790675
can you please post that webm of Hezbollah shooting one of their rockets in the name of the virgin mary?
No.1790681
>>1789866Josep Borrell, aka. the Euro "Gardener" guy. He's been very vocally against israel recently. Just a stupid suggestion, idk
No.1790685
>>1790681d-does that m-mean….. Israel is jungle gang?
No.1790692
Has fragging been present in this conflict?
No.1790725
>>1790119>For much of Israel's history, Mizrahi Jews suffered from discrimination and felt they were treated as second class citizens in this Middle Eastern country, created as a state that was supposed to welcome all Jews.>Since the founding of the state of Israel in 1948, Mizrahi Jews have been at a disadvantage. The 1950s, when hundreds of thousands flocked to the new nation from the Middle East and North Africa, are remembered as a particularly painful period in Israeli history, because of the Ashkenazi elite's treatment of the Mizrahi immigrants and refugees. When they would arrive in Israel, many felt they were marginalized as they were shipped into squalid refugee cities often in the country's settled periphery, the ma'abarot.>According to the latest Adva Center annual report dealing with “equality and social justice in Israel,” which was released early Wednesday, the average monthly income of urban Ashkenazi salaried workers in 2012 was 42 percent higher than the average wage among all salaried workers, while Mizrahi urban salaried workers’ wages were just 9% above the average.Please explain why Mizrahi themselves complain about being treated as second class, and the income disparity.
No.1790776
>>1790389>All these secular people don’t understand that without kollels and yeshivas, the army would not be successfulOh look, the Hilonim-Haredim contradiction Pew Research observed is coming to a head.
No.1790782
>>1790389Where would they move to? Who the fuck wants a bunch of lazy assholes that don't work?
No.1790798
>>1790787Namer is basically a Merkava hull, purposed as a heavy IFV. And that one is going to need a new engine, since it's still in the front.
No.1790801
06:20: an aerial attack was launched with two attack drones on artillery positions in Arar, hitting the targets accurately.
09:00: targeting the Ramia site and its equipment with appropriate weapons, achieving a direct hit.
09:15: targeting the "Meron" settlement with dozens of Katyusha rockets, in response to the "israeli" enemy's attacks on the steadfast southern villages and civilian homes, the latest being the attack on the town of Kherbet Selem and the martyrdom of a family.
10:20: targeting a gathering of "israeli" enemy soldiers east of the Birkat Risha site with rocket weapons, hitting it directly.
11:15: targeting an "israeli" military vehicle of the "Namer" type at the Malikiyah site, hitting it directly.
14:25: targeting the spy equipment at the radar site in the occupied Lebanese Shebaa Farms with appropriate weapons, achieving a direct hit.
14:30: targeting the Al-Rahib site and the deployment of "israeli" enemy soldiers around it with Burkan missiles, achieving a direct hit.
15:30: targeting the deployment of "israeli" enemy soldiers around the Birkat Risha site with Burkan missiles.
15:50: targeting the "Maale Golan" barracks with rocket weapons, achieving a direct hit.
16:10: targeting the Ramtha site in the occupied Lebanese Kfar Shuba heights with rocket weapons, hitting it directly.
16:15: targeting the Al-Samaqa site in the occupied Lebanese Kfar Shuba heights with rocket weapons, hitting it directly.
16:55: targeting the "Maale Golan" barracks for the second time with dozens of Katyusha rockets.
No.1790804
>>1790725>If you had opened the gates of a Nazi concentration camp into a German town during the Holocaust and let the inmates roam around unchecked, I'm sure at least a few of them would have done some pretty heinous shit to any German they found. ThCan someone post the meme of the concentration camp survivors putting the officer in he incinerator as torture?
No.1790806
The Palestinian Factions:
A statement issued by the Palestinian factions regarding the Ramadan Flood campaign and the global movement to confront the zionist occupation's plans and the genocidal war targeting our people and the Palestinian cause:
The Palestinian cause and the Gaza Strip are facing an unprecedented genocidal war and aggression that targets all meanings of humanity, exceeds the terrorism of fascism and Nazism, disregards all norms, laws, and divine and earthly ethics in the Gaza Strip and across all Palestinian land, destroying all aspects of life through killing, destruction, starvation, dehydration, and demolishing infrastructure.
Through this, it aims to liquidate the Palestinian cause and execute its plans against our people through displacement, settlement, Judaization of the land and the Islamic and Christian sanctities, ethnic cleansing, and racial discrimination.
In the face of this zionist aggression and genocidal war, the Palestinian factions affirm the following:
1- We declare our full support for the global Ramadan Flood campaign and call on the living consciences around the world for the largest official and popular global mobilization on the national, regional, and international levels during the blessed month of Ramadan under the title "Ramadan Flood" in support of the justice of our cause and to pressure to stop and end the genocide war and to thwart the "israeli" occupation's schemes.
2- We call for this mobilization and global flood to include activating boycotts in all their forms and cutting off all supplies to the occupation, declaring strikes and sit-ins in public squares, and organizing marches in all capitals and cities.
3- We affirm the right of our people to freedom self-determination, the return to their land and homes, and the establishment of their independent state with Al-Quds as its capital.
4- We reaffirm our absolute support for the resistance in facing the "israeli" occupation and driving it out of our land, as we call for the necessity of activating resistance in all its forms in all arenas and fronts, considering the blessed month of Ramadan as the month of the "Global Flood for the Victory for Palestine and Our Just Cause."
In conclusion: To our Palestinian people, to our Arab and Islamic nations, to the free people of the world everywhere, the Palestinian blood shed on this land, which today in the shadow of the genocidal war exceeds 130,000 between martyrs, missing, and injured in Gaza, the targeting of the West Bank with settlement and ongoing aggression, Al-Quds with Judaization, Al-Aqsa Mosque and the Islamic and Christian holy sites with desecration and raids and preventing prayer, and the racial discrimination and ethnic cleansing against our people in the occupied Palestinian interior, and the spread of the zionist entity like cancer in the body of our Arab and Islamic nation and the entire world, make us today stand united in a global popular and official movement to face this zionist danger and its terrorist liquidation projects that have exceeded fascism and Nazism in their ugliest forms and manifestations.
The Palestinian Factions
Sunday: 3-3-2024
No.1790856
>>1790806>Ramadan FloodNot really sure what's expected seeing as they've been advocating the same regional civil and military uprising since 7oct.
>>179082110/10
No.1790871
This fucking both-siders faggots shit. Did people have to invoke 9/11 every time they condemned the Iraq and Afghanistan war? Whether it's the events of Oct 7 9/11 or the ongoing war in Afghanistan. Fucking faggot zogbots.
No.1790876
>>1790871>Did people have to invoke 9/11 every time they condemned the Iraq and Afghanistan war?Yeah
No.1790880
>>1790876Not to my recollection. You had to pick one side or the other.
No.1790899
>>1790782>Where would they move to?Wherever it scores political points, no downside to taking these as refugees if they ask for asylum. In the closure of this act, there is going to be a lot of scapegoating, and the present government of Israel is going to be meritorial to shit on, in the way people went about "neocons" and the Bushes and their euro counterparts when they went their merry way to flatten the middle east, multiple times, inbetween cheering for the bombing and the sanctions.
No.1790900
>>1790782There's already a ton of them in New York.
No.1790946
>>1790942They've expressed desire to do so, but I doubt it's going to happen any time soon, since they can't exactly put boots on the ground from where they are. Early in the war they asked Saudi Arabia to pass through in order to fight Israel, but the results of that can be easily guessed.
No.1790952
>>1790946>Early in the war they asked Saudi Arabia to pass through in order to fight Israel, but the results of that can be easily guessed.Any clique of oil rich educated-in-london failson military officers have the potential to do the funniest thing.
No.1791034
october 7th was bad, but it was ultimately caused by israel creating the conditions for it to happen
israel must be condemned for october 7th
No.1791045
>>1790821The Harkonnens are the Soviets according to Frank Herbert
No.1791051
>>1791034>october 7th was badno
No.1791052
>>1790942Commandeer a ship, load it with explosives, attach a transport tow. Pull up to Eilat with transponder off. Do a little trolling. Haul ass back.
No.1791064
>>1791034It was bad not because they fought, but because the fight didn't go farther.
No.1791108
dear liberals, you claim the Israeli army is just like the nazis
well, the nazis abused meth and other drugs during their conquest, can you name one drug that's currently used by the IDF!
checkmate
No.1791111
>>1791108The worst MDMA of all time so they can rave to the worst electronic music of all time
No.1791113
>>1791111don't forget they've been boycotted by North African hash farmers, their only escape now is the Colombian coke cartels
No.1791160
>>1791034>october 7th was baduhm no
No.1791162
>>1791034Was the Warsaw Ghetto uprising also "bad"?
No.1791188
>>1791162yes, it didn't succeed
No.1791233
>>1791228Hatari are so based, one of my favorite modern industrial acts.
Like a modern laibach.
No.1791238
>>1791233>singing in both arabic and icelandicdayum
>filmed in jericho, palestineDAYUM
No.1791245
>>1791045I am pretty sure they were WWI germans
No.1791247
Israel was actually planning to host the ESG in Jerusalem orginally.
No.1791259
I hate Israel so much it physically affects me. It's pathetic but fuck these pricks are just human devils.
No.1791272
>“My family is sick of canned food. They’re asking me for red meat or chicken; however, these are not available or are too expensive to buy. As a father, it’s too painful to not be able to provide what little my children are asking for,” he added
Who are these wife's and children during a seige saying 'no. I want red meat.'??? My parents would have… God damn.
My heart goes out to these kids and families but damn the new generation really are a bunch of little fuckers all over the world.
Made me bruh anyway, absolutely bizarre interview.
No.1791274
>>1791272Well they're kids anon, they probably ate that all the time. Give them a break.
No.1791278
>>1791272>My heart goes out to these kids and families but damn the new generation really are a bunch of little fuckers all over the world.Made me bruh anyway, absolutely bizarre interview.
Nice strawman there. They said the same about you years ago
No.1791280
>>1791274this. Kids are more long suffering than we think. Also remember, kids dont have rights.
No.1791283
>>1791274Idk anon. Just saying.
I didn't grow up under occupation with occupiers counting my calloric intake and even as a kid understood sometimes you eat cheap cannes food or basic rice and vegetables because we're poor, let alone 'no. meat, specifically red.'.
Maybe thry were quite well off before the war.
It's still very sad, just kind of funny.
No.1791290
>>1791283Well, adults have far more freedom of choice and whine about even more irrelevant things.
Look at our politics. Adults whining about hings that have no immediate effect on them. Or things that have always affected them but theyre immunised to.
No.1791296
>>1791272Is this you breaking cover anon? Maybe you think the reports of starvation or the pics of emaciated bodies are fake?
No.1791298
>>1791283>Maybe thry were quite well off before the war.literal hasabra talking point. you're showing yourself.
No.1791304
>>1791197boring popslop
final protests are going to get real interesting considering Malmö has a huge Muslim population
No.1791316
>>1791245>Frank Herbert wanted a harsh-sounding name for the antagonistic family opposing House Atreides in Dune. He came across the name "Härkönen" in a California telephone book and thought that it sounded "Soviet", though it is in fact Finnish.Don't think they're 100% supposed to represent Soviets but at least theybwere the main inspiration for the name.
No.1791321
>>1791298Do you think there were not well off people in Gaza before the war?
That's to autistic even for this website I'm afraid.
No.1791328
>>1791325they fucked up the meter there, doesn't roll of the tongue like palestine
No.1791335
>>1791321>Do you think there were not well off people in Gaza before the war?More actual hasabra talking points. What the fuck is your agenda anon?
>inb4 retard, autistic No.1791340
>>1791335Unless you're suggesting that there were no class distinctions in Gaza there must have been people who were better off than their neighbours.
No.1791352
>>1791340>there must have been people who were better off than their neighbours.What the actual fuck. Gaza has just been leveled in a genocide and you want to parrot hasabra talking points. How perfect do all Palestinians have to be in the face of a 70 year occupation and genocide to have your support? Understand obscenity. Don't normalize what's happening.
No.1791357
>>1791352>Acknowledging that class society exists in Gaza is a "hasbara talking point"Okay.
>How perfect do all Palestinians have to be in the face of a 70 year occupation and genocide to have your support?I do support them, but it was a class society and therefore some people were better off than others before the war. How is this hasbara?
No.1791361
>>1791320for sure more than just Muslims will be there, just sayin'
No.1791367
>>1791335>>1791352Hasbara hasbara hasbara!
Go back wherever you came from dumb fag.
No.1791375
>>1791340yeah no
the "class difference" you're talking about is the few hundred leaders of resistance groups that have assets overseas and funds from other groups, and the entire rest of the population living worse than in poverty, all of them both the farmers (if there's any left) and the shop owners
and that's it, that's the closest thing to a wealth difference there
there's no real class difference in Gaza, there's no real upper crust, middle class and working class, there's no petite bouge, no industrialists, no lumpens, they simply do no have class like we do, a country with a blockade that made everyone poor has no classism, i know big shocker
everyone suffers in Gaza, the farmers get their crops sprinkled by Israeli planes with waste, artisans do not have the materials to build anything as everything is blockaded, fishing is a nightmare, these are not conditions for anyone to live better than anyone.
No.1791376
>>1791367>Maybe thry were quite well off before the war.>Do you think there were not well off people in Gaza before the war?>Maybe shouldn't support Gaza so hardThis is you anon. What the fuck are you all about?
No.1791386
>>1791375Gazans have achieved War Communism? Where there are any two classes of wealth? The poor and very poor? Basado.
No.1791390
>>1791375Gaza has a functioning class system including a land owning elite, traders, subsustance pesants, workers etc.
I can't tell if you're legitimately retarded or a concern trolling 'just pretending to be retarded' faggot. If the former read a book you pseud for fucks sake.
No.1791393
>>1791368>How about we talk about class distinctions in a society that isn't at the peak of a 70 year slow genocide.Anon it was mentioned in passing alongside explicit condemnations of the Israelis.
No.1791396
>>1791375>there's no real class difference in Gazaretarded
No.1791398
>>1791390>land owning elite, traders, subsustance pesants, workersgreat, where are they now?
No.1791400
>>1791391Just read the UN stats on malnutrtion etc, it was abysmal. The issue is that there was (is?) a shit ton of wealth inequality. You probably seen the videos of people fleeing north Gaza, where most of them are walking or using donkeys. And then there is BMWs and Mercedes driving.
No.1791405
>>1791390>Gaza has a functioning class systemWell, guess Palestinians deserved it, then. Personally, I think that Jews deserved Holocaust also, they had class system too, afterall
No.1791408
>>1791405waffles pancakes yada yada
No.1791411
>>1791405>Well, guess Palestinians deserved it, thenThis was not implied by any stretch of the imagination.
No.1791413
>>1791411Okay then. Gaza had poor workers and better-off specialists who studied abroad and probably some loansharks or somesuch. Oh noooo le class society is present!!1
No.1791416
>>1791405Concern trolling faggot it is then.
No.1791420
>>1791405hmmm, now that you mention it, did the 1 million Armenians have landlords and traders and peasants in the 1910s? so i guess that means it was all a huge inter-imperialist civilwar between ottomans and Armenians, what about the german invasion of poland? the first thing the nazoids did when they entered poland was rounding up all the polish rich people, artists, aristicrats and taking their property, does that mean it was an inter-bourgeoisie war between the wehrmacht and the poles? when australia was created, surely some tribes living in the reservations were living better off than other tribes, so i guess that means they were not egalitarian and that whole thing was an inter-imperialist conflict between the Anglo bourgeoisie and the aborigines bourgeoisie with no real oppressed side
No.1791421
>>1790879Seems at this point that we can now say the war has spread to the West Bank
>>1791335anon, I get where you are coming from cause kids are idiots and shouldn't have that held against them, but there are well off people in amerikan prisons and even the extermination camps during the holocaust. Be a Marxist!
No.1791424
>>1791421>there are well off people in amerikan prisons and even the extermination camps during the holocaust.but it doesn't change anything, they are still prisoners even if some of them are a little bit more well off
No.1791429
>>1791424>but it doesn't change anythingNobody said or implied that it did.
No.1791432
>Why isn't this society an instant-noodles flawless diamond tier socialism heckin' role model already
You could have written "Hamas is losing" and farmed ten times the (You)s.
Hamas is losing btw
No.1791443
>>1791375anon, acknowledging that class distinctions exist in Gaza isn't really a normative assertion. You can feel the same compassion for the people of Gaza that you obviously do now, while still sticking to a scientific analysis.
And we mean all of this in a relative sense anyway, at least I do. It's just that needless suffering doesn't make people any better or worse, and no more or less deserving of compassion; if anything, acknowledging that is just more motivation to improve things.
If you want to truly understand, then you should know that you can still travel to the West Bank, relatively safely, and cheaply.
No.1791446
final unnecessary question, should some Gazans be worth less of our pity or even be our enemies because they are richer than the rest of the population?
No.1791447
>>1791446No and nobody said or implied this.
No.1791448
>>1791446see above. we aren't trying to give you a hard time
No.1791450
>>1791446well maybe 'more' deserving of compassion in that they are need it most, but my point stands
No.1791456
>>1791450>>1791448>>1791447perfect
the answer I was looking for, than we shouldn't scold a kid because he was used to eating red meat, maybe he really was living in a decent wealthy (by gazan standards) part of Gaza
keyword here, was
No.1791457
>>1791283>and even as a kid understood sometimes you eat cheap cannes food or basic rice and vegetables because we're poor, let alone 'no. meat, specifically red.'. Its been months. I cant exactly blame kids living under siege for wanting something exorbitant after months of deprivation.
No.1791461
>>1791375Lol I remember seeing Gazan kids in braces.
>>1791400>Just read the UN stats on malnutrtion etc, it was abysmal. The issue is that there was (is?) a shit ton of wealth inequality. You probably seen the videos of people fleeing north Gaza, where most of them are walking or using donkeys. And then there is BMWs and Mercedes driving.Sounds right.
No.1791464
>>1791325Spree does not rhyme with free.
No.1791465
>>1791456Of course not. Kids lack basic awareness universally, and I'd imagine that it is especially difficult to make sense of shit when you were born in a concentration camp and are being subjected to an extermination campaign.
At the same time, it is possible that these kids had regular access to meat before.
None of this is even relevant in the first place, I don't know why black flag anon made such a big deal out of it originally.
No.1791472
and I sincerely doubt the way the conversation went down was these kids being ungrateful or complaining. It's a valid question: "is it possible for us to have meat?" Kids need to learn about the world somehow
No.1791477
>>1791421>>1791465>>1791472kids are dumb because adults treat them like pets. Adults euphemise the world too much for them.
So when kids start acting festy in times of inconvenience, adults get upset.
I keep saying this and people dont like to hear it but:
STOP EUPHEMISING THE WORLD TO CHILDRENI hate the way adults talk to children like cartoon characters. Its very disrespectful and encourages immaturity.
No.1791479
>>1791477I am acutely aware anon. I am saying that they do not have the prerequisite knowledge to understand certain things
No.1791490
>>1791477And there is a reason adults euphemize to children: it is because learning certain things can be incredibly painful. Especially during a genocide when they are seeing literally the worst the human experience has to offer first-hand.
No.1791494
>>1791490Thats why adults guide them through it. Innocence as a universal treatment for children actually makes children more fragile.
It makes no sense to be silent about the truth of the mtter when kids are suffering in real time through the situation.
Children are resilient.
No.1791498
>>1791494>Children are resilient.No, they aren't. Childhood is when you form your character and learn most for adult life. Losing a year of school to war, living in a tent and getting bombed just sucks and is much worse than living through this in adulthood.
These children are hoing to be branded for life.
No.1791525
>>1791465>I don't know why black flag anon made such a big deal out of it originallyI didn't I just found it quite funny.
No.1791527
>>1791494infantilization is a thing but they literally lack the mental capabilities to understand certain things, let alone cope with them
No.1791539
>>1791443>you can still travel to the West Bankokay I have to write this, it's unrelated but I need to take it off my chest, we needed to change the subject anyway
has anyone else here actually gone to isr*el or the Palestinian territories and saw things with their eyes? I did
jerusalem, 2009, whole family arranges a trip to see the "holy land", as you can already guess, dad was a christcuck, as in a red-blooded "muh second coming of Jesus Christ Halleluja" christcuck, anyway we go from Jerusalem to east Jerusalem to see some church, the Holy Sepulchre, it was okay I guess, looked better than the walmart church we had, not the important part, place was filled with high barbed fences separating neighborhoods, i walk down the road, loiter around, and this clearly arab kid looks at me from one of the balconies and after a minute, his sister comes out and throws a glass bottle at the fence, i don't know why i remember this part but she is still my role model.
then at the hotel dad comes up with the very genius idea of visiting Bethlehem in the west bank because baby jesus was born there, the next day we traveled by bus that had armored on it because the Israelis were still afraid after the intifada.
i won't forget how the bus driver was talking to us about needing to stay in group at all times when we enter palestine because we are not longer protected by the Israeli police but by the arab police, and then we started driving, but not before he added in on the microphone a little part talking about himself being happy to finally come back to the land of his ancestors. and this son of a bitch was redhaired, redhaired, braided hippie beard, wearing a jew hat and speaking in a very clear Texas accent.
the drive took I don't know how long but what's important is the scenery, now you expect to see intresting wildlife on your journey in the middle east, nope, i saw houses being built from scratch, bulldozers, mortar-making trucks, watchtowers,walls, more walls and i could swear we passed by a fifty checkpoints alone
when we arrived, the first thing they tell us was to never talk to any locals, and immediately notify the guide if we saw something alarming, the fuck that meant.
what else do you expect me to say, west bank Palestine looked like romania in terms of poverty, sure some city parts that looked majestic and clean, but others, complete slums, that wouldn't be irritating enough if it wasn't for the giant cement walls that can be still be seen on the horizon, and the way pa talks and takes pictures, it's like he's in a zoo and they are the animals.
it's absurd, dad makes me go to israel to become more christian and appreciate israel, and years later i shit on it on an online forum.
No.1791542
Tinfoil hat moment: the port the US is planning to get built will be false flagged and exploded, so that US moves in to secure Gaza and allow Israel to transfer their best brigdes to fight Hezbollah in a full scale attack
No.1791546
>>1791542Dunno about any false flags, but the IDF will bomb the port at least once.
No.1791549
>>1791539I am in touch with an org trying to coordinate a volunteer trip. Thank you for sharing your experience btw. Tell your dad to fuck off
No.1791556
IOF currently raiding/harassing people at Al-Aqsa compound
No.1791558
>>1791549IDK about your skin complexion nut be careful. My friend got arested, beaten, bag over head and possibly almost got shot in the head.
No.1791566
>>1791558Yeah, I have been thinking about that. I am hoping that since it would be with an org and hosts I will be safer, but who knows.
No.1791570
>>1791558honestly at this point though I'd be more worried about the IOF
No.1791578
people usually like me IRL and I am alright at avoiding confrontation most of the time. I have *some* experience with that due to the nature of my city. Nonetheless, it is undoubtedly worse there, and it would be a totally foreign experience to me, and people do commit even violent crimes out of pure necessity even if they don't want to be doing it.
No.1791594
>>1791570>honestly at this point though I'd be more worried about the IOFYea it was the Israelis gendarmerie. They didn't kill or detain him further after they knew he was European though.
He was doing activism whilst there.
No.1791597
>>1791594>They didn't kill or detain him further after they knew he was Europeannot to sound demanding, but he better have filed a report or talked about his experience at least.
No.1791600
>>1791597Probably. He was very involved in the Palestine solidarity muleu, did a factory decommissioning a few years after being back in Europe. This was like 10+ years ago though.
No.1791605
>>1791393>Anon it was mentioned in passing alongside explicit condemnations of the Israelis.Nah, the class fucking distinctions were mentioned alongside
>Maybe thry were quite well off before the war.>Do you think there were not well off people in Gaza before the war?The kind of people like us that post on this board can talk about class fucking distinctions when the starvation and slaughter that has gone on for 70 years has stopped. Get your minds right. Talk about class distinctions in countries where a genocide isn't currently happening.
>inb4 black flag obscenity rolls out retard, autist or go back to reddit.Don't repeat hasabra talking points. Everybody out and angry.
No.1791607
>>1791594Gotcha. Wasn't sure which you meant, but that makes more sense. I hope that going into it with respect and the right intentions is enough for me to be well-received by the locals, and that having at least a base level of situational awareness will keep me safe from the threat of the IOF and armed settlers. I know that there is a very real threat of escalation, but my safety is not one of my primary concerns, and I want to use that to help people.
No.1791618
>>1791396>>1791400>>1791408>>1791461glowposts indistinguishable from anything on zionist twitter. just fucking delightful to see it on /leftypol/
>>1791477>I keep saying this>I hate the way adults talk to children like cartoon characterscue the lolbert weirdo who really, really wants children to be treated as adults and who's been spamming the board about it for weeks.
>>1791525>I didn't I just found it quite funny.Black flag finds children wanting better food in a starvation scenario funny. Literal obscenity in a thread about a genocide. Our genocide, Israelis made it ours, we own it.
No.1791619
>>1791527>>1791498Again, maturity isnt automatic with age.
Also, part of growing up is havibg some flaws/scars. This obsession with innocence/intactness is making a less mature/competent society.
No.1791620
Can we really not fill this thread up with Newgene discourse?
No.1791621
>>1791618>Literal obscenityThat's me! :D
No.1791623
>>1791527Elderly and mentally disabled are also like this. Yet society still respects their personhood.
No.1791624
>>1791620Someone needs to make a Newgene post bingo.
>maturity>youth>adolescence >innocence No.1791652
As zionist fears mount on the first day of Ramadan, zionist media claims that occupation security services received 200 reports of intentions to carry out resistance operations today alone.
No.1791722
>>1791624yes we should. We shpuld also have classic imageboard bingo:
>tfw no gf>capitalism is the reason why it sucks>liberals >fascists>reactionary>incel>boomer>zoomer>Reddit No.1791723
^
Don't you have to be retarded somewhere else?
This is the Palestine thread.
No.1791725
>>1791539Christians are abolute simps for Israel and the Judaists dont even like them.
Irony is, Christians have more in common with Muslims. In fact, I would say that if it wasnt for xenophobia, Christians would have political alliance with them.
No.1791728
>>1791723Yall are pretty retarded any thread anyway. Its always "damn liberals" or "capitalism is why this os bad."
You guys assume thay all bad things are because of right or centrist sentiments.
No.1791730
>>1791725>Irony is, Christians have more in common with Muslimsno they dont lol
No.1791732
>>1790658>>1790670Very nice, very cool
No.1791734
>>1791728So why are you here?
No.1791745
>>1791728Kill reactionaries. Behead reactionaries. Roundhouse kick reactionaries.
No.1791762
>>1791734Why are you so pissy about me when you guys are busy arguing with each other?
Why are you guys so obsessed about Reddit and TikTok and Twitter and boomers and zoomers?
No.1791865
>>1791743Why does he tweet in the form of terrible poetry?
No.1791927
Death to Israel.
No.1791959
>>1791743>wow JP you really owned<checks quote tweet>elmodid he lose his following? he's beyond parody at this point. or is it just that the dumbest whales buy the most merch and conference tickets?
No.1791960
>>1791959Abu-Bakr Elmo Al-Sesame is a well known radical Islamist.
No.1791961
>>1791927More like Isntreal
More like Neverwas once the Houthis finish building Numidium
No.1791976
>>1791197from where did this garden narrative come from
No.1791982
>>1791961Why didn't it purge Skyrim then?
No.1792019
>>1791743he really fell off didn't he? only 500 likes?
No.1792059
>>1791743Bro really beefing with talking puppet 💀💀💀
No.1792064
>>1791959I think that Russian or Serbian or whatever clinic he went to to get him off benzos did something that really fucked his brain up, he was always dumb obviously but not this bad
No.1792261
Rafah offensive status?
I read that only six IDF brigades remain in Gaza, while eight are in the west bank.
There's sime subtle dooming in their circles because Israel lacks the ambitions and a coherent strategy in Gaza.
No.1792298
>>1792064Surprised he didn't come back raving about the evils inflicted by Croatia and Bosnia on glorious Greater Serbia.
No.1792310
if Hamas really wanted to win the war they should have purchased better weaponry and to do that, they should have started accumulating capital.
why couldn't they have just invested in the free and fair stock market before October seventh?, bought bitcoins, bought dogecoins, bought crypto, joined r/wallstreetbets, bought gold and macro when it's low, sold it when it's high, invested in the crappy Canadian housing market, bought and renovated a few derelict houses using their BTC and became overseas landlords with a passive monthly income. bought more small businesses, started mining operations in Venezuela, did some high-risk investment to buy and take over small European companies through bribes and intimidation and lobbying, so that these companies don't end up shilling for Israel like they do today or face the wrath of their bosses, started blogs, started youtube channels, started onlyfans, started twitch streams with abu oubaida lets plays, started any online service that gets them money, started portfolios in rare Estonian koi fish trading and breeding.
or better yet started buying out struggling small jewish businesses from inside the Israeli kibbutzes and made them their own, what's Israel gonna do? forbid them from buying property? that goes against the whole meaning of "only democracy in the Middle East" if they won't compete in the free market, Israel are literally free market-hating communists if they refuse to let a group buy property inside their country, besides they already encourage Jews to buy out arab businesses, so why not let the reverse happen?
and then used the money to improve Gaza's aerial defenses with AAAs and fortresses and bought spare parts for armored trucks and tanks on the free market, that way they would have a better advantage than they do now
and the free market wins again over socialism
No.1792340
Whatever jannie decided to add 'glowing' before all tor posts is such a dumb cunt.
Nothing to do with anything but I hate our power trip egofulled jannies.
Literally a change that makes 0 improvements
Totally worthless faggots.
Let's be real it was probably thst incel pasqual.
No.1792348
^
No one cares about your feelings you retarded queer faggot
No.1792350
>>1792348I care
>>1792347Also that israel lmao even jews hate israel
No.1792351
>>1792348Yea fair enough. Felt half relevant hare because a good portion of people who use this thread use the .onion. There's still no reason for the average user to know or care though.
No.1792352
>>1792350> half the worlds jewish population is irrelevantalso the polling for US jews isn't terribly different
No.1792353
>>1792347Sample size?
Location?
To vague to make these kind of thoughts anon.
No.1792355
>>1792353Having said thst of course a poll that only Polls people on if they self identify as some wite fascist woo woo made up 'ethnic group' of course you're going to get insane answers.
I'm sure the results would be insane I you interviewed all who identify as 'aryans' too, but not sure thst it'd translate to what most whites believe.
No.1792356
>>1792355polls regularly separate by race and political leaning. and splitting up the israel pop between jews (70%) and arabs (20%) makes sense.
No.1792358
>>1792356>polls regularly separate by raceNo they don't lol because it's vague meaninglessness and completely based on feels.
No.1792359
>>1792064based russian/serb psychiatrists giving westoid thought leaders severe brain damage
No.1792398
I'm adding to the Leftypedia page about the UN sexual assault report. Norm Finkelstein argues that their mandate was completely contradictory from the start because it set out to "gather, analyze and verify information" and yet was "neither intended nor mandated to be investigative in nature, a mandate which is vested in other entities of the United Nations’ system". Wtf were they actually gonna do then? Is this normal for UN bullshit?
No.1792414
>>1792352Nope, outside of israel alot of jews reject zionism, those who support zionism are israelite organizations made to manipulate public narrative or binational settlers
No.1792450
>>1792398Did UN dismiss/ignore his words or not? Only showing defenders' words and pretending that the court agreed with them is a rather common tactic
No.1792518
Vice President of the Ansarallah Media Authority, Nasr El-Din Amer:
The first victory achieved by America and Britain is the removal of blue checks from the [Twitter] accounts of state leaders in Sana'a. As for the [Yemeni] Armed Forces, rockets, drones, and all military capabilities, they have not reached them.
It turns out America is a force that should not be underestimated, brothers.
No.1792520
Zionist sources report that about 100 rockets were fired from southern Lebanon towards the occupied Golan in two separate barrages earlier this morning.
The intense rocket fire targeted IOF military training camps in the area.
According to Al-Manar, the first barrage of rockets targeting the occupied Golan was fired about 2 hours ago. Another heavy barrage was fired about an hour later without the sounding of sirens.
No.1792537
National Resistance Brigades (Martyr Omar Al-Qasim Forces) spokesman Abu Khaled:
Our forces are engaged in fierce battles in the central area, Al-Zaytoun neighborhood, and Khan Younis, bombarding the enemy's vehicles with mortars in cooperation with Saraya Al-Quds.
The Martyr Omar Al-Qasim Forces, in cooperation with Saraya Al-Quds (the military wing of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad Movement), have bombarded enemy positions with rockets in the south of Al-Zaytoun neighborhood, as well as engaged in fierce battles against the "israeli" forces in the areas of Al-Zaytoun, Khan Younis, and the central region. Here are the details:
Firstly, the artillery unit of the Martyr Omar Al-Qasim Forces, in cooperation with Saraya Al-Quds, bombarded enemy positions in the south of Al-Zaytoun neighborhood with short-range rockets, hitting their targets accurately.
Secondly, the Martyr Omar Al-Qasim Forces fought fierce battles with the "israeli" enemy forces at the Abu Mutaibeq military site, east of the Central Governorate, using machine guns and short-range rockets that were launched directly at the enemy and achieved their objectives.
Thirdly, the Martyr Omar Al-Qasim Forces engaged in fierce battles against the "israeli" enemy forces around the Hamad Towers, west of Khan Younis, using machine guns, mortars, and hand grenades, successfully detonating an explosive device on one of the enemy's vehicles, causing its occupants to fall between dead and wounded.
Fourthly, the artillery unit of the Martyr Omar Al-Qasim Forces bombarded "israeli" enemy positions, north of the city of Hamad, west of Khan Younis with heavy mortar shells, hitting their targets and inflicting heavy losses on the enemy.
Fifthly, the Martyr Omar Al-Qasim Forces fought fierce battles with the "israeli" enemy forces, south of Al-Zaytoun neighborhood, using machine guns and mortars, managing to target one of the enemy's vehicles with a B7 shell that hit its target directly, causing its occupants to fall between dead and wounded.
Omar Al-Qasim Forces – The military wing of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine
Military Media
12/3/2024
No.1792543
Palestinian Prisoners’ Club:
With the advent of the holy month of Ramadan, more than 9,100 Palestinian prisoners in occupation prisons face a policy of starvation and deprivation from practicing religious rituals.
The Prisoners’ Club added in a statement that the starvation policy worsened in an unprecedented way after October 7th, as a result of a number of measures it imposed, including closing the so-called “prisoners' cantina,” confiscating the prisoners' remaining food supplies, and reducing meals; the food provided to them was poor in quantity and quality, which affected their fate, especially the sick, and contributed to the worsening of their health conditions. The throwing of thousands of detainees after October 7th into cells without providing food also contributed to the worsening of the starvation policy.
The starvation policy constituted the most dangerous policy imposed by the occupation after October 7th, in addition to torture and abuse, which affected all male and female prisoners, as well as detained children, and caused them health problems, specifically in the digestive system, in addition to the weight loss that all prisoners suffer from today.
The Prisoners’ Club continued that the issue of food appeared in the prisoners' testimonies as a prominent and fundamental issue over the past period. In addition to the poor quantity and quality of food provided by the prison administration, it deliberately brings food that is not cooked well, and in some detention centers and camps, specifically affiliated with the army administration, such as “Etzion,” some expired canned food was provided to detainees.
Depriving prisoners of the practice of religious rituals.
In addition to the starvation policy, the prison administration deprived prisoners of the call to prayer, and of congregational prayer, even inside the cells. Prisoners were subjected to attacks many times after trying to perform prayer, or even read the Qur’an in a clear voice. Also, in many prisons, most notably the Naqab, the Qur’an was confiscated from prisoner’s in the first period after the aggression [on Gaza], the prisoners also face difficulty in performing ablution due to the reduction of water provided to them.
In light of the unprecedented state of collective isolation imposed on prisoners, stripping them of any means of communication with the outside world, including radios and the limited television stations that were available to them before October 7th, thousands of them have difficulty even knowing prayer times inside the cells.
How did poor food lead to the martyrdom of the detainee Mohammed Ahmed Al-Sabbar?
Martyr and administrative detainee Mohammed Ahmed Al-Sabbar’s case, was one of the most prominent cases linked to the policy of starvation and the poor quality of food provided to him. Since before his arrest, Mohamed had suffered from intestinal problems and needed special food in addition to health check-ups, and the entirety of his food being legumes caused major bloating in his intestines, which led to a worsening of his health condition and his martyrdom on February 8th, and to this day the occupation continues to detain his body.
The occupation practices humiliation and starvation against detainees.
It’s worth mentioning, in light of the occupation’s continued implementation of the crime of enforced kidnappings of Gaza detainees, there is not sufficient information available about the food provided to them as part of the conditions of their detention, but in light of the testimonies that came out of those who were released, they confirmed that they suffered from the policy of starvation, deliberately humiliating them to get food.
We also point out that among what was reported by prisoners released from prisons, is that the prison administration asks Gaza detainees to “bark” when bringing meals.
The number of prisoners in the occupation prisons is more than 9,100, including 3,558 administrative detainees, about 200 children, and 61 female prisoners.
No.1792551
>>1792504I agree. People here support things-in-themselves. Palestine for Palestine's sake. They cannot think outside the logic of the given global capitalist system. Even the Trotskyites (IMT) - opportunisticaly, let me add - seized the moment of the Crisis and organized tens of thousands of new members. I've been seeing an organic uptick of 'communist' movements in my little European town, all feeding of the mass mobilization in support of Palestine. Yet without critical reflection (as communists should) they tend to relapse into what is easiest - they outsource their struggle to the Global South, give an apologia (presented as 'theory') of their passivity, symbolically support any struggle waged in the Jungle and declare their historic mission complete.
Smashing the military-bureaucratic system of the imperialist state at home would do wonders for the Third World.
No.1792566
>>1792504>gratuitously vulgar usage of international proletariatIs this from the Va*sh subreddit or some shit?
>>1792551>projection the post>>1792553>links cnnWhy have people rub shit in their eyes?
No.1792568
>>1792566What projection? You know I'm right. Organize instead of weeping over the suffering the global proletariat.
No.1792573
>>1792518>Even in Yemen politicos cares about gay twitter shitDamn.
No.1792581
>>1792347Interesting how they only split Jews according to political views but treat Arabs as a monolith.
No.1792603
>>1792504Bait but unironically yes
Israel is a prolific exporter of surveillance + policing tech. The dissident journalist MBS had butchered in a Turkish embassy was caught using Israeli spyware.
No.1792609
>>1792581second class citizen opinions do not matter, they only exist so that Israel can point at them and say see? we're not an ethnostate!
No.1792610
>>1792566>ancoms posting pro stalin memesthe last time this happened in leftypol's history was in 2020, are we reaching the end times?
No.1792643
>>1792610That anon is a ML just using the anarchist flag to to get attention. He's done this on other threads.
I know its him because he's the only faggot who does this shit.
No.1792669
>>1792604People really walking sideways like a crab
No.1792671
>>1792669>jealousy Okay bro call me when you have a better way to grow armor.
No.1792679
>>1792340Agreed, it is really bad OPSEC to identify any given poster as using tor
No.1792688
>>1792568It takes some initial hysteria to really be pushed to action, and there is nothing wrong with weeping over immense suffering.
No.1793072
Hezbollah operations 03/12/24
7:00: bombarded the Air Defense and Missile Command headquarters at the “Keila” barracks, the missile and artillery base in “Yoav,” and the surrounding artillery positions with more than 100 Katyusha rockets in response to the “israeli” attacks on our people and villages, including the recent attack in the vicinity of Baalbek city, which resulted in a martyr.
10:15: targeted the Rahib site with a Burkan missile, achieving a direct hit.
12:45: targeted the Al-Jardah point with Burkan missiles, achieving a direct hit.
14:00: espionage devices at the Birkat Risha site were targeted using appropriate weapons, achieving a direct hit.
14:25: espionage devices at the Jal Al-Alam site were targeted with appropriate weapons, achieving a direct hit.
16:00: targeted the Jal Al-Alam site and a deployment of enemy “israeli” soldiers behind it with Burkan missiles, achieving direct hits.
16:00: targeted the Hadab Yarin site with Burkan missiles, hitting it directly.
16:00: targeted the Birkat Risha site with Burkan missiles, hitting it directly.
16:15: targeted an “israeli” drone in the airspace over the border areas with occupied Palestine using appropriate weapons, forcing it to retreat and return to the occupied territories.
16:45: targeted the “Zarit” barracks with Burkan missiles, hitting it directly.
17:00: targeted the “Branit” barracks with rocket weapons, achieving a direct hit.
17:55: targeted the Ruwaisat Al-Alam site in the occupied Lebanese Kfar Shuba hills with rocket weapons, achieving direct hits.
18:05: targeted the Zebdine site in the occupied Lebanese Shebaa Farms with rocket weapons, achieving direct hits
No.1793298
Doing a demo today. Glad we're moving to Doing them in middle if week instead of weekend.
Hope it's getting more disruptive in your guys locals too.
No.1793312
>>1793298Same here. Donated last months wage to UNRWA. Thinking of converting to Islam for some reason. Sick of this evil shit everywhere. I hope Biden fails hard. America fucking deserves Trump.
No.1793366
>>1793312>Thinking of converting to Islam for some reasonwell now you're just being performative
No.1793368
>>1793312As a "third worlder" I prefer republicans, unironically.
Democrats are demons and tend to be more aggressive towards us.
No.1793369
>>1793298nah, fuckwits have been doing them every weekend and now their wearing thinner and thinner. marching up and down the square at this point.
that said, disruptive one with union collaboration is coming up soon
No.1793373
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQyG3AqV5sEanother banger
>Context: On the 17th of October, Palestinian militias based in the West Bank assassinated Israeli right-wing politician 'Ze'evi'. Ze'evi founded a right-wing party aimed publicly at the population transfer aka "genocide" of the Palestinian people in the Mandate for Palestine. This assassination was retaliation for the assassination of Abu Ali Mustafa, a Palestinian leader, who was killed by Israel after roughly 1 year of service in his position with the Palestinians. No.1793375
>>1793312>Thinking of converting to Islam for some reasonWhy adding misery to the world by partaking in petty virtue signaling?
>>1793368Reps and Dems doesn't make much difference foreign policy wise, despite the yip yapping. With Reps Burgers themselves get slightly more the taste of their own medicine so there's stll that…
No.1793376
>>1793368I see where your coming from. Dems are fanatic liberal internationalists. I saw an interview with an ex-Soviet diplomat and he said the Russians preferred having the GOP in power because Dems would turn up to negotiations and demand internal "reforms" from the Soviets.
>>1793366>>1793375Been thinking about it for at least a year way before the Oct 7.
No.1793385
>>1793376Religions are a tool of control. The bottom line is, you have to be an idiot to willingly convert into one, unless you're just pretending so you can marry a person.
No.1793388
>>1793373oh yeah this slaps
No.1793400
>>1793376I grew up a deeply religious Muslim
It's a load of shit dude, it's a pretty transparent system of control. Like all religions, people are raised into it during childhood when they don't know any better, and I suppose some of the stories are comforting. But at the end of the day, you'd have to deceive yourself pretty hard to buy into any of this shit as a critically thinking adult. Anon we unironically believe the prophet had rode a winged horse to heaven and Jerusalem and back, and chatted with Adam and Jesus and shit along the way.
Mohammed was almost certainly just a manipulative schizo whose cult would have faded into obscurity if it wasn't for the elites of Mecca using his myths in their expansion campaigns.
The religion's gotten way more reactionary in the past 100 years or so, I will admit. But you're misguided, trust me there's nothing there
No.1793427
>>1793365>my mates what are you an aussie? you would still be eating kebab i'm sure of it, Australia had arab levantine diasporas even before Israel was a thing
No.1793439
>>1793400You are wrong. Its the Westerners who are the real reactionaries.
No.1793444
>>1793400>>1793427people who were born devout Muslims growing up to hate it, and people who were born non-muslim growing up to embrace it. is there a material explanation for this phenomenon?
No.1793447
>>1793446Let me guess with the "Communist and Nazis working together." The NAP they signed.
No.1793448
>>1793446The only question worth asking about people like this is how you can bash their head in.
No.1793457
>>1793444Something something grass is always greener
No.1793469
>>1793444Its probably not that many people.
No.1793481
>>1793463This is a fucking obscenity beyond belief. Like the fucking hasabra talking points that black flag was pushing ITT
>>1791376It's a short step from pushing Israeli narratives to normalizing cartoons like this. Fuck the Israeli regime and anyone mouthing it's obscenities in any way.
No.1793487
>>1793444It's the opposite. Most people born and raised in a muslim household keep being "muslim", religious or not. Same logic applies to secular household. Exceptions tend to be loud, specially on youtube (ex-muslim videos / embracing islam videos).
Most people are becoming less religious over time anyway.
>>1793446Technically I'm an ex-muslim, but ex-muslims online are the cringiest shit I've ever seen. I see a lot of them supporting Israel, so they do have internalized in them this belief that "eastern civilizations are inferior". Just ignore these idiots.
No.1793491
>>1793481>January 2005, Édouard de Rothschild invested €20 million for a 37% controlling stake in the French newspaper Libération.[6] The left-wing daily was founded by philosopher Jean-Paul Sartre and Maoist militant journalist Serge July in 1973 but in recent years has sustained substantial losses. In 2010, he became president of the board of Libération[6] and moved to Israel.[7] His shares were heavily diluted when, in 2014, Patrick Drahi became the new owner of the newspaper.
>Patrick Drahi (French pronunciation: [patʁik dʁai]; Arabic: باتريك دراحي; Hebrew: פטריק דרהי; born 20 August 1963)[2] is an Israeli billionaire magnate and investor with interests in media and telecoms.you can't make it up it was owned by a Rothschild and now by an Israeli billionaire
No.1793497
>>1793463This bitch has been known for being racist and sexist for a while thoughever, not really a leftist
https://www.arretsurimages.net/articles/a-libe-coco-contre-les-peine-a-rire No.1793498
>>1793369>and now their wearing thinner and thinner. That's a worry. We need to keep them attractive and dynamic.
The London demos still get decent numbers, heard 450K the last.
No.1793522
>>1793463unlimited charlie hebdos on french political cartoonists
No.1793525
>>1793522ayo hold your tongue, do you wish to make Leftypol labeled an Islamic terror group?
No.1793528
>>1793463what is to be done about the political cartoonist question?
No.1793536
>>1793517The resistance know the enemy better than anyone, don't worry about that.
No.1793539
>>1793528if i was retarded, i'd say we must support the rise of AI art to put these "people" out of business. but i'm not, we will just be replacing a poison with another more accessible poison. we will have a million self-proclaimed cartoonists writing "ugly brown funny starving family gaza city fix hands" for the prompt
No.1793544
>>1793528Critical support for the Charlie Hebdo gunmen
No.1793551
>cartoon about netnyahu pbuh? that's a foul, fire him! make him never find a job again!
>cartoon about starvation? that's a free speech if i ever seen one! muslims will never understand our sense of humor! everyody clap!
No.1793561
>>1793557>biggit listSign me up bro I'll even send em my address.
No.1793594
>>1793298that's great, I am hoping that they will do the same around me. we actually had some moderate successs, possibly. one of our lawmakers seems to be taking advice from the constituency. obviously not the primary goal, but it makes me wonder whether the demos across my state have helped. the major city closest to me has a demographic makeup that makes it much more sympathetic to various causes, and has a history of being rowdy.
good luck, give em hell
No.1793676
>>1793626what offshore reserves?
No.1793708
>>1793491>Serge JulyVery maoist name.
>>1793626How do you think oil extraction works?
Having said thst though I still dont understand why thry simply can't ferry lorries from Cypriot ports right in to gaza and why thry gotta build shit.
No.1793727
Insisting on calling Israel "the Zionist entity" does nothing to delegitimise Israel and actually legitimises the formal/legal system of mutual recognition between bourgeois nation states.
No.1793758
>>1793517i felt like some of his videos over the past few years were made for un/undertrained ukranians & nato mercs. i always think about blocking his channel when it pops up, but it's kind of interesting to see niche propaganda and get an insight into a somewhat secretive group. his channel is kind of like a modern soldier of fortune magazine
No.1793768
>>1793487>Most people born and raised in a muslim household keep being "muslim", religious or not.
>Telling your genuinely loving parents that you're a kaffir who's going to burn in jahannam foreverI think the main reason a lot of ex-muslims are quiet about it is because doing otherwise means devastating your family.
And because it's a punishable crime in a lot of Muslim countries
No.1793793
>>1793708>How do you think oil extraction works?instead of asking a rhetorical question implying that I'm stupid, how about you just say why I'm stupid?
No.1793846
<NASRALLAH DROPPING SOME TRUTH BOMBS
>Today, in the 6th month, Netanyahu says that if we do not go to Rafah, we will lose the war>We say to Netanyahu that even if you go to Rafah, you have lost the war and you cannot eliminate Hamas or the resistance>Hamas is negotiating today on behalf of the resistance and not from a position of weakness, and it sets the conditions>Today all Palestinian factions and the will of the people of Gaza are unanimous in stopping the aggression and not a temporary ceasefire>Who believes that Biden cannot stop the war on the Gaza Strip?>With the stroke of a pen, Biden can stop the war on the Gaza Strip and stop the aggression>The support fronts are completing their work and we praise the Yemeni front and its effects and blessings are very great, especially on the enemy’s economy>Our Lebanese front is performing its duty and playing its role fully in this battle, and the screams of the settlers are louder than the resistance operations>On the northern front, there is extreme secrecy about the losses in terms of soldiers, military vehicles, and others>The "Israeli" army today is tired and exhausted on all fronts, and the number of its dead is very large and much greater than announced>The "Israeli" army, after 5 months, has a shortage of personnel and wants to recruit 14,500 officers and soldiers, and even wants to recruit the Haredim>>1793768You're right, but at the same time some people don't bother. It's like "meh, I don't believe in shit, but let's just go along".
I didn't tell my parents of my disbelief because that would "devastate" them, but they're rednecks from the countryside, so meh.
No.1793951
>>1793846>You're right, but at the same time some people don't bother.I know someone personally who identifies as Lutherian but also "doesn't believe in a God".
I'm can't even pretend that makes sense.
No.1794010
>>1789759I pushed it before i finished reading that paragraph
No.1794018
>>1789759If I were Texan, I would click the button. But not the country I live in. We wouldn't be able to defend.
No.1794029
>>1794025There's no fucking way the driver survived this, holy shit
No.1794030
>>1793846>I didn't tell my parents of my disbelief because that would "devastate" them, but they're rednecks from the countryside, so meh.I’m now picturing a dude chewing Khat and spitting it into a spittoon, right next to some weird version of the confederate flag that has a crescent moon on it. Probably saying something like “NOW I TELL YOU HWAT, BOI. IF SOME BIG CITY TEACHER TRIES TO TELL ME ALI WAS THE HEIR OF THE PROPHET, WE GONNA HAS SOME ISSUES!”
No.1794045
>>1794030THAT'S LITERALLY IT LMAO
My family is from Lebanon tho, bless them
No.1794070
>>1793708>simply can't ferry lorries from Cypriot ports right in to gaza and why thry gotta build shit.My guess is that, paying for humanitarian aid alone doesn't get you a mandate.
If NATO wants to displace the UNWRA, for which they already pay anyway, they may want to at least pretend to be in charge of the ground operations. Even if the port only represents a hook for Israel to pretend to acquiesce letting aid through the land crossings, they would be putting NATO in charge of it. And it's a pretext to move their armies closer, physically and rhetorically, legitimizing the movement of material outside of the war effort as well.
No.1794075
>>1794070 (me)
Also, there are hidrocarbon and such in those waters that Israel has been looking to tap for some time. I bet it's harder to negotiate for concessions when NATO parks their navy on the booty and next to your coast.
No.1794076
>>1793708>I still dont understand why thry simply can't ferry lorries from Cypriot ports right in to gaza and why thry gotta build shit.Because the point isn't to take supplies to Gaza, it's to take Palestinians out. "Voluntarily."
No.1794120
>>1794030>OW I TELL YOU HWAT, BOI. IF SOME BIG CITY TEACHER TRIES TO TELL ME ALI WAS THE HEIR OF THE PROPHET, WE GONNA HAS SOME ISSUES!Shias believe that Ali was the rightful heir tho.
No.1794129
>>1794116
I'm not sure what you're trying to convey.
No.1794134
>>1794080Like sassy schizo-isms aside, isn't this eerily reminiscent of the Bush/Cheney discourse where the actions of said administration got presented as some arch-neocon viceprez and their faction was pulling the strings of the clown act Dubya?
It's the same idealist argument regurgitated just in time to be validated by the official narrative of the "last war" as an oopsie and the next war as a virtue. So what? When the propaganda spins around to painting the Nakba 2 as an "overrreaction" of certain idealogues and foreign lobbies you get to be right for two seconds… before the next war is just as inevitable, I presume.
No.1794138
>>1794134Can you explain how pointing out that the us government acts out policies which are developed by specific people and these actual, specific people hold places of power in and adjacent to the federal government in order to enact those policies is idealist.
No.1794140
is it just me or is neo colonialism by nkrumah boring???
No.1794151
>>1794138In the sense that those people cannot be replaced and change those policies because the policies stem from the interest of capital and not the interpretations of "national interest" of the politicians giving face to the policy. Hence why I mention Obama's admin changed nothing with regards to warmongering MENA despite presenting a much different tone to the imperialist agenda than the rabid neocon bloodthirst during Bush before.
No.1794174
>>1793821>first vidHoly shit, it's really heating up in the West Bank
No.1794175
>>1793846>I didn't tell my parents of my disbelief because that would "devastate" them, but they're rednecks from the countryside, so meh.Same here, my folks are egyptian fellaheen to the bone. However, Im not sure what you mean. Did you tell them about your kufr or not?
No.1794180
>>1794174This actually happens several times every day on average, it's just not often filmed. There has been a significant uptick in such operations recently though.
No.1794182
Israel is like literally this huge base of the Western imperialists. Of course they have to protect it regardless ideologies. The area must not be allowed to escape the control of the petrodollar's hegemony.
No.1794183
>>1794138NTA, but I assume they meant that it's the same move as defending a police force by pointing to 'bad apples'. Frankly, given their spectacular show of PR incompetence in the past 6 months, I refuse to believe that talented Israelis are deviously manipulating the US into dancing to their tune. Yes, there are a huge amount of Israel lobbyists with strong connections, but if controlling the world's foremost superpower was that easy, why hasn't anyone else done it? Why hasn't some random other country like Albania or something pulled the same shit?
The reason Israeli lobbyists are so effective is because it's not very hard for them to make convincing arguments about why unconditional support is in the US' best interest. Likely, their arguments ultimately rest upon the 'capitalist corporate interests' the article mentions.
No.1794187
>>1793764how were two IOF just dropped in a stabbing?? was there a lynch mob? are they just that incompetent? I can't imagine they weren't both wearing armor.
No.1794189
>>1794187respect to whoever did it of course
No.1794191
>>1794151The issue with this is that Israel is very clearly not serving American interests at the moment, and its become more of a liability than an asset. The Americans don't need it to project power into MENA, they have Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, the UAE, Oman, etc. which are all generally compliant and host US troops. Israel's genocidal response just embarrasses the US and weakens those other pro-American Arab governments. At this point I'm not convinced that their relationship can be explained simply be convergent interests, since any objective observer could see that Israel is no longer serving American interests.
No.1794200
>>1794191>Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, the UAE, Oman, etcAll of these are authoritarian governments are built on political seismic fault lines.
https://arabcenterdc.org/resource/arab-opinion-index-2022-executive-summary/Even if the ruling elites are happily subservient to US interests, the general populace is not. Therefore the subservience is contingent on nothing like the Arab Spring happening again (and actually succeeding). In contrast, US-Israel alliance extends from the bottom to the top of society
No.1794207
>>1794180Yeah, I am aware shit has been going on in the west bank for a while, just commenting because of the troop surge, the number of reported ops, and the amount of videos
No.1794208
pls don't take my use of the word "shit" as hostility 🙏
>>1794207 No.1794233
>>1794200>All of these are authoritarian governments are built on political seismic fault lines.So is Israel, and half of the people living under its authority don't consider it a legitimate state and are in constant armed rebellion. Those other countries may have their dissidents but nothing on the level of Palestinian resistance to Israel.
No.1794270
>>1794191>Israel is very clearly not serving American interests at the momentIs Ukraine, now that they are losing, not serving the interests of the USA? If Ukraine had settled in in 2022, Europe may not have switched sides but could have been in better position to negotiate with the USA. Now they have to follow through and make the best of it. Israel may be forcing the same partition in the arab world.
If it's not made explicit, through threats of war, who knows where the economic incentives alone may lead. China got the credit for Yemen peace deal and KSA was playing along , as well. Now Egypt is building refugee camps outside of Gaza and KSA has traded "normalization with Iran" with "normalization with Israel".
No.1794305
>>1794191The US no longer believes in interests really. It believes it has the power to change reality by just printing things in newspapers. Any loses it experience are actually victories. When policies fail, they are actually going exactly according to plan, by some different logic.
No.1794308
>>1794200The Arab spring was contingent on US backing…
No.1794315
>>1794270>Is Ukraine, now that they are losing, not serving the interests of the USA? The difference is that if Ukraine were to somehow win then this would serve American interests. A decisive military defeat by Russia and full integration of Ukraine into NATO and the EU would definitely outweigh any loss. By contrast I would say that even if Israel were to "win" this conflict it still would not advance US interests. The Israelis aren't serving any function that other pro-Western governments in the region don't also serve, but they're attracting an enormous amount of animosity and potentially destabilizing other US allies. So what exactly does the US have to gain here? There's the proxy conflict against Iran and the Axis of course, but Hamas is far from the strongest member of this coalition, and they're only a factor at all insofar as they keep Israel constantly off balance. They're really only an issue as long as the Americans make Israel's security a priority. There are also other states that serve as proxies against Iran like Saudi Arabia, and unlike Israel they could probably go to war with Iran without the entire Muslim world siding with the Iranians out of reflexive hatred of Zionism.
No.1794406
After the Biden regime limited 300 million dollars from UNRWA, killing the organization which the state department itself recognized as providing essential and lifesaving services, it is now pretending that Congress is to blame and is forcing them to make the elimination permanent. Genocidal.
No.1794437
>>1791618Please rope fagg0t
No.1794438
>>1794437Not you I meant the guy making fun of the kids for red meat btw
No.1794445
>>1794308What do you mean? Most of the MENA dictatorships are US-allied, so by definition popular unrest was (and will be) antithetical to US interests. You'll note the only cases where the uprisings weren't utterlly crushed were in US-antagonistic states.
>>1794315Ok. I'm starting to come around. Maybe it isn't just cold calculating geopolitics. So what do you think it is?
No.1794466
>>1794445>So what do you think it is?Honestly I think the Israel lobby has become so entrenched in the US political system that the tail is wagging the dog. Of course they only achieved that status because in the past their interests were far more closely aligned (Arab governments more hostile to the US, less openly genocidal tendencies, etc). But things have gotten so bad that no US politician can run afoul of the lobby without serious political consequences. Before this starts to sound like a ZOG Nazi conspiracy, I'd point out that Christian Zionists are the largest component of the Israel lobby.
No.1794467
>>1794466>>1794445Alternatively America's leadership may just be genuinely retarded and somehow can't see how Israel is harming their interests for very little gain.
No.1794472
>>1793758>i always think about blocking his channel when it pops up, but it's kind of interesting to see niche propaganda aI feel the same way, although I did block his channel, because the ideological brainrot is too much to bear for me.
This one was difficult to go through too, with all their gloating of mass murder.
Those are my takeaways that I find useful info
>Recon drones entering through windowsA possible way to counter those may be nets and net curtains, where the rotor blades may get entangled, causing a crash.
Nets still enable to look outside while further making it difficult to look in from the outside. You can also shoot through nets from the inside, without significantly affecting the bullet's ballistics. Snipers use this regularly in urban environments
>Smartshooter sightsIt's a Israeli corporation, so maybe they are just shilling it for cash. But those sights alledgedly make it easier to hit difficult targets like drones and cameras. They claim they can reliably shoot them down with such sights up to 100 metres.
Big if true, since everyone struggles with shooting down drones using regular rifles, and equipping every soldier with shotguns not being feasible.
>Friend or foe identification for drones is an issueBetter just shoot down suspicious ones immediately. It's not worth risking it. Drones are replacable.
>"Bro, they have bad infrastructure. Arabs just leave trash everywhere. They are so dirty"Oh no, the medieval siege has nothing to do with it. It's just Arabs being disgusting savages /s
Fuck that piece of shit asshole! On a side note, I've seen a lot of Burger tourists, when they visit dirty, poor places around the world, they'll just claim "oh, it's their culture." Those shitheads actually believe (brown) people like to live in trash.
>Buildings make it hard to tell, where the shots come from, because of how sounds echo.Good to know.
>Gloves are a must in urban environmentsSharp shit everywhere.
No.1794502
>>1794175Mine are "falla7een" from Lebanon lmao. I did tell my father one day, on a very important conversation I had with him, he said it was just a phase and when he was younger he didn't care about shit too. I just told him it might be a phase but he shouldn't bother the shit out of me in the meanwhile (I'm 30 btw).
Didn't tell mom tho, she'd have a crisis. I'm trying to be political, little by little convincing them I'm a responsible human and my choices in life are not absolutely demoniac and retarded.
Not living with them helps a lot btw.
No.1794519
>>1794187It was done by one person, a 17 year old iirc, who was shot and killed.
No.1794529
>>1794472Yeah, i dont even watch them i just look at the thumbnail, maybe mouse over to read some captions for a second or 2 then move on. looked up the sights though & im calling bullshit. Perhaps it'll increase chances of hitting a slow moving, poorly-piloted, low-flying drone by a few %, but that's about it. A shotgun really isnt any good either, but id sooner trust one over an overly complicated sight
No.1794542
>>1794191Zionist lobbying is simply too powerful
No.1794546
>>1794472>I've seen a lot of Burger tourists, when they visit dirty, poor places around the world, they'll just claim "oh, it's their culture." Those shitheads actually believe (brown) people like to live in trash.That's funny. When they come se (or east) Asia thry do this gay little routine about 'omg so clean! No graffiti on the trains!'
Seems just a weird thing to care about either way.
No.1794548
Today, Thursday, Israeli media announced that a settler was killed and another was injured, as a result of a stabbing attack in Beit Kama, north of the Negev Desert, south of occupied Palestine.
Israeli media reported that the perpetrator of the stabbing attack was shot, and Palestinian websites reported his martyrdom
No.1794560
>>1794548>a settler was killedS
No.1794589
I think the narrative of blaming the Israel lobby is seductive idealism, for the idealist that gets validated and for the materialist who sees the power it has on the masses.
Mark my words. You will be astonished at the speed those bleeding hearts for Gaza you so foolishly think on your side, turn to bloodthirsty mongrels like the worst of 9/11 neocons , immediately after,when it is required of them.
No.1794607
>>1794554Damn right in the neck, shame it was only light I think.
Fucked how they had the hero detained until the guy got out his gun (and pissed about with it for a bit in his hands for some strange reason) to shoot him.
No.1794620
>>1794554poast still working? not here.
No.1794624
The Yemeni Armed Forces tested a hypersonic missile that can reach Mach 8 (10,000km/h) speeds, according to a military source speaking to Sputnik.
The Armed Forces plan to begin manufacturing locally this missile, which has high destructive capability, to use in attacks in the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden, as well as on targets in the zionist entity.
The Yemeni Armed Forces have also upgraded their missiles and drones, doubling the destructive power of their warheads following months of testing that began after Al-Aqsa Flood.
These developments are in line with Ansarallah Commander Sayyed Abdulmalik Badr El-Din Al-Houthi's statements, where he stated last week, "New weapons were used in the recent operations, and they surprised the American and the British," and reaffirmed, as usual, that military development and escalation is ongoing.
"What comes next will be greater in every sense of the word," Sayyed Al-Houthi added.
Minister of Defense Major General Al-Atifi also stated last week: "The Armed Forces have many cards they have not yet played.
[Several posts on the operation in "Beit Kama"]
An IOF soldier has been wounded in an apparent stabbing operation at a gas station in "Beit Kama" in the occupied Naqab near Bir Al-Sabi'.
3 settlers have been wounded in the stabbing operation in "Beit Kama," and the executor was shot.
Documentation from the scene of the stabbing operation in "Beit Kama" in southern occupied Palestine, where 3 settlers were wounded, with one in serious condition.
It is suspected that the all of the injured are IOF reserve soldiers. In the attached video, the driver comments, "It appears that a soldier was killed."
[See attached]
Zionist sources confirm the death of the settler seriously wounded in the "Beit Kama" operation.
The operation, according to zionist sources, was carried out by martyr Fadi Abu Taif, 22 years old. He is originally from the Gaza Strip, and has been living in the occupied interior in Rahat since 2019. His mother is from Rahat, while his father is from Gaza, and both of his parents are currently in the Gaza Strip.
No.1794626
>>1794620It's less reliable through tor, but if you switch relays enough times you'll be able to load it.
No.1794629
Texting in your family's group but instead of sending the 👍👍you send the🔻🔻
How fucked are you?
No.1794631
>>1794629nothing, because my family isn't terminally online
No.1794632
>>1794629anon u shouldnt text
No.1794646
>>1793764Seems the resistance has been posting more and more joint operations lately
No.1794693
apparently ancient judeans used to sacrifice kids to the gods. also if zionists wanna be historically accurate half of north isreal has to go to create a caananite state or be part of lebanon/
No.1794695
>>1794652Honestly, *a mountain* of child corpses would not do nearly as much dmg as Israel did with their "semen stracting squads" propaganda and bragging about their superior tech to "extract the Volk straight out of the recently dead to preserve the masterrace"
No.1794700
>>1794654only looks like the freedom fighter was martyred. was this a part of a larger op?
No.1794720
>>1794682>teaching kids to say bismillah before drinkingkek
top tier bants
No.1794726
>>1794646>Seems the resistance has been posting more and more joint operations latelyAs I understand it use of one factions equipment by another is also counted as a joint attack. So it's a bit vague.
No.1794728
>>1794649They've been saying this from 7oct tho.
No.1794875
HOLY SHIT
>Ansarullah leader, Seyyed Abdul Malik al-Houthi:
>We announce the ban on ships linked to the "Israeli" enemy from crossing, even through the Indian Ocean, in the direction adjacent to South Africa, towards the "Israeli" enemy
That's it, they were using their old and dirty missiles in the beginning. Now they'll use their good stuff apparently.
No.1795013
A new zionist report details part of the extent of Al-Qassam Brigades' cyber and intelligence capabilities, which "stunned" zionist intelligence.
Long before blinding the enemy on October 7th, the resistance was able to hack soldiers' phones and webcams in the Gaza envelope, launch locally-manufactured recon drones, and tap communications networks at IOF bases like "Tze'lim." The proficiency and magnitude of these capabilities shocked zionists, who aimlessly worked for years to disrupt the resistance's intelligence operations, which they thought to be primitive.
Al-Qassam Brigades revealed their cyber unit in October 2022 after keeping it secret for eight years, but little remained known about it. While it had been known that Hamas' counterintelligence, which Yahya Sinwar had a significant role in, was strong, not much was apparently invested in "forward" intelligence.
Moments after Al-Aqsa Flood erupted, cyber units of the Martyr Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades and Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades were already working hard to undermine zionist communications on top of damage dealt by Al-Qassam Brigades.
Al-Qassam Brigades, in months prior, had created fake apps to hack IOF soldiers' phones, which provided information that was used on October 7th. The IOF admitted, after allegedly stumbling on a large server farm in Gaza, that many hackings must not have been detected.
Al-Qassam Brigades' intelligence unit is estimated to have 2,100 fighters, comprising a range of varied tasks to build a deep intelligence picture for thousands of other fighters. Al-Qassam also took advantage of open-source material and information leaked by IOF soldiers on TikTok and elsewhere.
Once the day came, Al-Qassam Brigades went directly to IOF bases that had never been revealed, able to extract intel that proved useful during the ground invasion stage. This success is owed to the importance that the resistance places on intelligence, hence why Hamas' top brass is comprised of men with an intelligence background—Nofal, Sinwar, Issa, and Deif.
No.1795017
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2024/03/us-had-secret-talks-with-iran-about-houthi-red-sea-shipping-attacks-in-january.html
>The Financial Times also describes what appears to have been a bit of a game over the 85 retaliatory strikes the US made after three US servicemembers died in what were alleged to be Quds (as in Iran) strikes. The press depicted the soldiers as having been in Jordan. but Jordan never complained as one would expect. Many experts, such as Larry Johnson and Scott Ritter, said they were pretty clearly in Syria, where the US has no business being, except, as Donald Trump put it, to steal Syria’s oil.
>The Financial Times article concedes the base operations, which included what I infer was a forward base, were on the “Jordanian-Syrian border.”
>Recall the US attacks were launched five days later, which is on the leisurely side. That seems to have been designed to allow Iran to move some personnel out of the way:
< After US President Joe Biden vowed to hold accountable those behind the attack, Iran withdrew senior commanders of its elite Revolutionary Guards from Syria. Days later, on February 2, American forces carried out a wave of attacks against Iranian-affiliated forces in Syria and Iraq.
>The pink paper also depicts Iran as having been well behaved since then:
< No attacks have been launched against American bases in Iraq and Syria since February 4, with US officials saying there have been indications that Tehran has worked to rein in the Iraqi militias.
< The Iranian official said that when Brigadier-General Esmail Ghaani, commander of the Qods force, the wing of the guards responsible for overseas operations, visited Baghdad last month he told the Iraqi militias to “manage their behaviour in a way that will not allow America to engage Iran”.
< While Iran’s ultimate goal is to drive American forces out of Iraq and Syria, Tehran has made clear it wants to avoid a direct conflict with the US or Israel, and to avoid a full-blown regional war. No.1795020
Over 60 martyrs ascended and over 160 Palestinians are wounded after the IOF once again opened fire on 30,000 Palestinians gathered to receive aid at the Kuwait Roundabout in the northern Gaza Strip, which has become a death trap.
Machine guns, helicopters, and drones of the US-funded IOF massacred the starving citizens. This is the fifth day in a row that the IOF has opened fire on Gazans in the famine-stricken north waiting for aid.
Over 500 Palestinians have now ascended to martyrdom as a result of IOF fire while waiting for aid in the last two weeks, starting from the Flour Massacre.
No.1795074
In the latest Israel/Palestine conflict, Hamas used guns for its military attacks.
This is very bad for the entire gun community because it will add more suspicion, control and restrictions.
It is also ugly to use a liberating weapon like guns for killing people, instead of defending them.
One way to deal with the problem is every enthusiast, club, federation to take a clear position against this and to condemn the military use of guns!
No.1795090
sorry if this is inappropriate but i was just listening to a lecture by kwame ture and he got onto the subject of israel and palestine. during his speech he expresses some 'based' opinions on how many jews were killed during the holocaust and i was wondering if there was any actual legitimacy or point in thinking its worth contesting at all
No.1795094
>>1795090>and i was wondering if there was any actual legitimacy or point in thinking its worth contesting at allIt's tough, because there's some legitimate contest and some absolute bullshit contest.
PDFrel is a good, short read by Norm Finkelstein about historical revision from the US Zionist movement to exaggerate and reframe The Holocaust for personal gain.
No.1795283
>>1794720UNLIMITED MANNERS ON ISRAELI CHILDREN
No.1795300
>>1795283This is cultural genocide.
No.1795352
>>1794695Not to normies. Only weirdos like you and me care about this cringe SPESS MEHREEN JEAN SEED LARP.
No.1795428
>>1795411>war of extermination>ukrainianshold up I thought they were winning, they have the power of the West and anime on their side, they told me they were killing le mobiks by the thousands, they are getting exterminated now? make up your damn mind
No.1795490
>>1795411oy blyad it's another holodomor
No.1795539
>>1795411>War of exterminationLmao. The Zionists killed more civilians in two months than the Russians did in two years.
No.1795542
>>1795411Unlimited genocide means unlimited genocide, lib
No.1795544
>>1795539haven't they killed more
women and children than Russia has killed civilians in Ukraine by this point? at some point they'll have killed more children even
No.1795617
>>1795539For every civilian that died in Ukraine there have been at least 267 killed in Gaza
No.1795629
In solidarity with Palestine, workers of the International Alliance of App-based Transport Workers (IAATW) united to boycott all Chevron and Chevron-branded gas stations (Texaco, Caltex).
The union federation, which is comprised of 100,000 workers across 20 countries across continents, called for an escalation of divestment and boycott campaigns targeting the environmentally destructive Chevron, which has extracted stolen gas in the Mediterranean for the zionist entity for the last four years, generating billions of dollars for the entity.
"We believe that refusing to support entities complicit in perpetuating injustices against Palestinians is a critical step towards justice and accountability."
They plan to investigate other companies using technology complicit in Palestinian genocide, calling on other labor unions to stand with Palestine and support the boycott.
No.1795636
Hamas submits vision to mediators on ending aggression, exchange deal
The Islamic Resistance Movement - Hamas announced that it has presented to mediators in Qatar and Egypt a comprehensive vision regarding its stance on halting the aggression on the Gaza Strip and the issue of prisoner exchange with the Israeli occupation, a statement released by the movement explained on Thursday.
The movement emphasized in a statement that this comes as part of its follow-up to negotiations through intermediaries to halt the Israeli aggression, provide relief and assistance to the Palestinian people in Gaza, facilitate the return of the displaced to their homes, and the complete withdrawal of occupation forces from the Strip.
In its statement, it stressed that its vision is based on these principles and foundations, which it considers vital for any agreement, and that it will remain committed to the rights and concerns of the Palestinian people.
On Wednesday a member of Hamas' political bureau, Ghazi Hamad, told Al Mayadeen that negotiations have been stalled, emphasizing that "the ball is now in the Israeli court."
Hamad told Al Mayadeen that the Israeli occupation "[seeks to continue] the war (on the Gaza Strip) and does not want to reach a ceasefire," confirming that "Israel" is not interested in withdrawing from the Gaza Strip.
During his interview for Al Mayadeen, the Hamas official revealed that the Resistance has more than one communication channel in which it discusses details of a prisoner exchange deal. Via these channels, it has become clear that "Israel wants to release prisoners while continuing the war," according to Hamad, who stressed that Hamas "will not accept" that this be the basis of a proposed deal.
Following several rounds of mediated negotiations, "Israel" refused to meet the basic demands of the Palestinian Resistance, insisting on a phased prisoner exchange deal while dismissing calls for a long-lasting ceasefire, the complete return of displaced people to their homes in the Gaza Strip, and the withdrawal of Israeli occupation forces from the Gaza Strip.
No.1795703
>>1794654How the fuck did he not stab him?
No.1795788
>>1795703jew armor :3 antisemetik defense
No.1795902
>>1795392you guys wonder if Israeli's kill the Arab cats too?
No.1795925
>>1795711This is very Burgertarded of me to say but it's always insane when I see these huge crowds in Yemen. I can't imagine that many Americans gathering for anything, even like a sportsball game. God bless 'em.
No.1795929
>>1795902would not surprise me at this point
No.1795930
>>1795392What does the guy says at the end?
No.1795934
>>17959331. Killing R*dditors isn't sport, it's a chore.
2. You posted on R*ddit and now you are mad.
No.1795949
>>1795934I dont have a plebbit account
No.1795984
zamn, they didn't kill my boy with planned suicide yet or take down his channel for hate speech or some shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZdpIRMZoSw&t=2s No.1795995
Slow news day
No.1796034
>>1795411One side is a resistance made of people who've been under the boot heel of a theocratic ethno-state fighting them with nothing more but salvaged and stolen weapons alongside IEDs.
The other is a side is resisting an irridentist right wing nationalist oligarch all the while being a government controlled by irridentist far right wing nationalist oligarchs that is under the influence of NATO goons, and is armed to the teeth with EU/ US artillery firearms.
Point to me where Palestinian resistance fighters have their own fascist regiment set on committing genocide.
No.1796093
>>1795411westoid spotted
commence extermination
No.1796241
Is the Finkelstein Destiny debate on Lex Friedman worth watching
No.1796247
>>1796034>where is the fascist regiment bent on committing genocide the jidf response would be KHAMAS
No.1796250
>>1796248National Zionism.
No.1796252
>>1796241Well, he said some shit not even the most rabid zionists would say out loud, he got owned by Fink (who kept calling him different names, it was funny), and the whole ordeal is probably going to ruin his "career," but from an intellectual standpoint it is not worth watching and probably nothing you don't know.
No.1796258
New vids
Under a banner that reads, "Let us hold our heads high, because we chose a life of struggle. A covenant and a promise," the fighter directs a message to the Palestinian people. "O our Palestinian people, steadfast in the Gaza Strip, O our people in the West Bank and the occupied interior. Salute to the revolution and the revolutionaries in all of Palestine, from its river to its sea. We in the Engineering and Manufacturing unit of the Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades have been preparing and manufacturing Sumoud-10 rocket shells throughout the time of the zionist invasion, despite their treacherous planes intensively flying in our skies of our beloved Gaza Strip. We affirm the following: We in the Engineering and Manufacturing unit of the Martyr Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades are continuing preparation and manufacturing rocket shells in all their forms to repel the enemy and to defend our Palestinian people. We are continuing until the liberation of Palestine, all of Palestine, from its river to its sea. Martyr Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades. Engineering and Manufacturing Unit. March 14th, 4th of Ramadan. Long live Palestine." The Martyr Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades fired their first rocket, Sumoud, almost exactly 21 years ago in 2003. It has been followed up by various iterations and models, such as Wadie of Lightning and Bisan.
No.1796270
>>1796258>Engineering and Manufacturing unit of the Abu Ali Mustafa Brigadeshell yeah! The resistance has seriously encouraged me to study math and engineering and brush up on my cybersec skills
No.1796272
>>1796270Of course because I am naturally inclined to those things, and need to get my shit together and make money
No.1796284
>>1796241Mostly for the entertainment
Fink was genuinely hilarious against Destiny, to the point where a significant chunk of the comments reflect a sense of
laughing at Destiny
Besides that there were a couple of areas of history here and there that the three well-read (everyone except DesTINY) argued over that I wasn't aware of, but the main guy Fink and Rabbani is arguing against, this "Benny Morris" guy, is this insufferable liberal-Zionist and his "historiography" reflects this and many of the arguments circle around attacking/defending that POV.
No.1796294
>>1796284>but the main guy Fink and Rabbani is arguing against, this "Benny Morris" guy, Have you really never gears of Morris before?
Personally I never could take him seriously fir years when a teenager because of 'Benny' it's like asking me to read a book on Indian history by a guy called 'big Deano'. No.1796301
>>1795703>How the fuck did he not stab him?He did apparently the cunt died.
Probably because he decided to play with his gun and shoot a restrained man instead of stymying the bleeding..
No.1796310
>>1796284>>1796252I am only aware of it from seeing clips in my twitter feed. It seemed rather pointless. I guess it's good for whatever information Fink was able to get across to Destiny fans, but the insulting stuff seems rather pointless to me. I don't see much point in dunking on people or whatever.
>Besides that there were a couple of areas of history here and there that the three well-read (everyone except DesTINY) argued over that I wasn't aware of, but the main guy Fink and Rabbani is arguing against, this "Benny Morris" guy, is this insufferable liberal-Zionist and his "historiography" reflects this and many of the arguments circle around attacking/defending that POV.This also seems like a waste of time IMO. Knowing this anecdote or that really isn't even important. The Nakba isn't important. If Israel had created the current state of affairs without any of these events what difference would it make? Israel isn't wrong because they created a genocidal settler state the wrong way. There is no right way to do what they've done.
No.1796329
>>1796310You are right; bombing and starving helpless civilians is never okay, nor is any of the other shit that israel has done at any point, but we can't allow them to control and frame the narrative.
They say "oh it's this thousands year old conflict it's complicated" when it really isn't, so we have to show people just how and why it is uncomplicated.
No.1796332
>>1796301he looked fine to me. sure its the right video?
No.1796340
>>1796332Maybe. I read that day an officer was killed in a stabbing and he has the faggery daggery do officer shit on his epaulette.
No.1796479
>>1796385Why would this conversation happen?
Why are they speaking in babyspeak?
Why would the Arab be uncut?
Please go back to /pol/ with your weird foreskin hangups and racial fetishes, anon.
No.1796561
>>1796258the infiltration operation carried out near al-Khalil today is going to have big consequences
No.1796609
>>1796561How do you figure?
No.1796699
>>1796609Well maybe not so big, but it is part of a general escalation in the West Bank the past week. There are significantly more IOF troops deployed to the West Bank than Gaza already, and now they are being deployed to Al-Khalil. It was an infiltration and shooting of settlers that triggered the initial irsaeli aggression.
No.1797029
National Resistance Brigades (Martyr Omar Al-Qasim Forces) spokesman Abu Khaled:
Our forces continue their clashes with the enemy forces and strike their positions in cooperation with the resistance factions.
Commander Abu Khaled, spokesman for the Martyr Omar Al-Qasim Forces (the military wing of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine), issued a military report, in which he revealed that the Martyr Omar Al-Qasim Forces continued their clashes with the “israeli” enemy forces, and confronted them on the fighting axes in the Gaza Strip. In conjunction with a number of fighters from the resistance factions they targeted enemy positions with rocket barrages. Below are the details:
First: The Martyr Omar Al-Qasim Forces (the military wing of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine) clashed with the “israeli” enemy forces on the axes of advance in Hamad town, northwest of Khan Younis. They used machine guns and rocket-propelled grenades, and were able to target one of the enemy’s vehicles with a “B7” shell, hitting it directly and causing severe damage, causing the occupants to fall between killed and wounded.
Second: The Martyr Omar Al-Qasim Forces in conjunction with the Mujahideen Brigades, Saraya Al-Quds, and Al-Husseini Groups, targeted enemy positions south of Al-Zaytoun neighborhood in Gaza City, with barrages of B-107 caliber rockets, and the missiles hit their targets, causing heavy losses among the enemy's ranks.
Third: The artillery unit in the The Martyr Omar Al-Qasim Forces bombarded enemy positions northeast of Juhr al-Dik using short-range rockets, hitting their targets and causing heavy damage in the ranks of the enemy forces.
Martyr Omar Al-Qasim Forces – The military wing of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine
Military Media
17/3/2024
No.1798215
>>1794617>what is taglit?birthright tours
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