No.1677402
>>1677373I can't think of anything 'great' Abbott did. Howard was a cunt but at least there are powerful things to point to.
No.1680039
>>1677792he's in it for the memes (mythological symbols) only, he doesn't actually 'believe' in it.
No.1680811
Why are all communists in australia old? fr
No.1680818
>>1680811they probably come from the new left when that was a thing
No.1681251
>>1680811The Greens is the only party with a lot of young people. They are good at advertising to young people and promising they will fix issues that affect young people, like housing, without actually having an idea of how to fix it. The Greens are sucking up all revolutionary potential in this cuntry and directing it into culture war bullshit to ensure that capitalism isn't touched.
No.1681314
I've been thinking… would it not be best for leftist orgs (read: orgs with marxist or anarchist-communist ideological foundations) to focus on building the infrastructure for intensified class struggle while we're in a period where legal reformism is "the" method for progressive concessions? What I mean by this is shifting focus away from propagandizing over the issue of the month and infighting over positions in various bourgeois institutions, instead pooling resources to create supply hubs or collective spaces where revolutionaries can operate without having to pussy foot around liberals.
Shit like:
- Consolidated guides for where to source materials for making propaganda for cheap/free. Places which may be able to print for free, friendly art collectives, that sort of thing
- Collective "commie houses" where organizations can store equipment or host events
- Organizing food networks for emergency situations or to support people who may be put into dire straits as a result of political action
- Teaching revolutionaries practical skills such as vehicle maintenance, basic water filtration, personal fitness
- Funding or supporting worker's coops to provide funding and employment for different projects
- Formulating some sort of framework for official cooperation between various orgs in a manner which is more than a casual agreement not to step on eachother's toes
Is the strategy not to build dual power? Does dual power not require a material base for it's independent operation? It's obvious that protesting every weekend has little to no effect on government policy and that the state acts practically without the consent of the people. Trust in the capitalist class and the government is weakening every day and so the best thing to do would be to build the foundations for parallel institutions. If we take to heart the lessons of communist thought, we must realize that one day, push will come to shove. If the left has no fallbacks and no preparations for times of crisis, we will be paralyzed when they hit! Indeed, if we ever had the political momentum to force a crisis, we would be in an infinitely better position if we had structures ready to go.
Finally, material wins that prove that workers can act independent of capitalist institutions are exactly the sort of wins that really attract people.
It's one thing to say:
<We won [X] workers a pay increase from the capitalists!
or
<We stopped deforestation for [X] months!
But another thing entirely to say:
>We have a network of coops that need no capitalist!
or
>We have free seeds for all to revitalize native ecosystems in their backyard!
It's not to say that the former don't have their place, they do, but the latter are a step towards challenging the legitimacy of capitalist institutions instead of trying to work within their narrow rules of what is allowed as political action.
No.1681918
>>1680033I never had hope of a decent outcome, but it's still sad to hear.
>>1680811In my experience, most of the uni students go to Socialist Alternative, the old retirees with spare tiime join with Socialist Alliance, and I'd guess most others have a fukken job.
No.1682510
>>1681918>old retirees with spare tiime join with Socialist Alliancewhy though?
No.1682539
>>1680033>The court heard this week that, while serving as an army lawyer in Afghanistan, McBride became concerned by what he believed was the "over-investigation" of alleged misconduct by special forces troops.>Prosecutor Patricia McDonald noted that McBride believed the investigations were "excessive" and undermined the soldiers' safety.>…>The ABC later published what became known as The Afghan Files, which detailed Australian troops' alleged illegal killings in Afghanistan.look at this spin. he took issue with the defense department selectively enforcing breaches of the rules of engagement based on celebrity commanders and office politics and the ABC phrases it like he was a retard who wanted to defend war criminals by handing info on their crimes to the ABC. the same fuckwit ABC that published every line of bullshit that Jack Idema handed to them about Afghanistan.
No.1682674
>>1681314Because protesting is easier. That shit is too much effort, I just want to tell the government that they should do something about something.
No.1684870
>>1681251>Culture war bullshitLike what? Most of the policy I hear greens talk about is good progressive policy. Affordable housing, fixing Medicare, dental on Medicare etc.
No.1684878
>>1681314I'm sure there will be some anarchist organisations who do that depending on where you live. Sure it might be fun and rewarding but I disagree that's the way to build a revolution or "be ready" when the time comes.
>Oh our liberal society is descending further into fascism and everyone is losing their jobs, what are we gonna do?>Come over to my dilapidated squat and grab some seeds bro, grow veges and shit.My understanding is that dual power is about partial seizures of necessary infrastructures etc which requires the backing of the whole or at least a large portion of the working class. So you have the transport workers, the logistics workers, the health workers etc on your side. And finally, ideally the police refuse to put down the revolution because of their own sympathies. You don't build dual power out of backyard working bees or skills workshops. Not saying that's not worth doing though but it's more anarchism than communist from my understanding of things
No.1684890
>>1681314You are entirely correct in this and this is what i am creating in New Zealand
No.1684906
>>1684878>My understanding is that dual power is about partial seizures of necessary infrastructures etc which requires the backing of the whole or at least a large portion of the working class.I agree, that is an aspect of what I'm trying to get across. That is, being able to have some sort of system in place to
manage such seizure, provide material support and technical expertise on extra-legal matters.
Note specifically my point on:
>- Organizing food networks for emergency situations or to support people who may be put into dire straits as a result of political actionImagine, for some reason, you have a Coles warehouse go fully revolutionary and the workers seize the place. If an anti-capitalist support network that has the technical expertise to distribute all those seized rotisserie chickens exists, it would be able to incorporate the newly seized warehouse into a wider network instead of having the workers twiddle their thumbs and wait for the cops to smash in the doors.
Maybe the cops do and some workers get jailed, but some some loose their jobs they relied upon. If positions could be opened up in friendly coops, they may be able to provide a guaranteed (though temporary) form of income until the revolutionaries can find other work.
Maybe one of the workers did some real radical shit and has to lay low until it's safe for them to return to normal life. It would not do to have them rely on people who do not share their politics to hide them or cover for them, thus, commie aligned safehouses may be an effective alternative.
We
cannot wait for the masses workers to spontaneously rise in arms to prepare. Indeed, if communists cannot show that they can handle things even on a small level then why would the revolutionary workers even put their trust in such people? Because they have good slogans? People talk about optics a lot, whether some set of people looks cringe or based etc, but I think what's more important is if an org looks
capable (both on a theoretical level and on a practical level).
>You don't build dual power out of backyard working bees or skills workshops.Solid agree. Though, the cadre to facilitate the construction of dual power will be trained in backyard working bees and skills workshops. You must remember that for all intents and purposes, the communist movement in this country is starting from square one. To build communism, you need communists.
Good communists. In addition, having some sort of fun and encouraging self-development is a better way to keep comrades around than attending a march every weekend and doling out newspapers to sell to impressionable teenagers.
>Sure it might be fun and rewarding but I disagree that's the way to build a revolution or "be ready" when the time comes.It might not be a
revolutionary example, but think back to the coronavirus response.
I saw a million and one "mutual aid" groups pop up practically overnight, mass distrust in government officials after multiple mishandled quarantines, wide division in the ruling class over what exactly to do and a huge shift of wealth globally towards the haute bourgeoisie. This
could have been the left's perfect time to strike, to get itself back on it's feet.
What happened instead?
Nothing. Even worse, a mobilization of
reactionary forces and the mass dissemination of conspiratorial ideology. We were and are, essentially, still riding every knee jerk reaction to global events.
We were not ready.I'm not going to blame anyone though, even the most correctly minded revolutionary communist would have been simply a drop of lucidity in the ocean of madness. The
infrastructure for revolutionary action simply did not and still does not exist. As such, no party cadre of any form can be put to effective use. Even agitprop is useless if noone can afford to print the posters in effective numbers.
TL;DR: To understand class warfare
as warfare is to understand the necessity of constant preparation and improvement of revolutionary forces, whatever form that takes. If the foundations are not built, the fortress will not stand.
No.1684910
>>1684906this summer is looking like it's going to be a stinker. if you wanna do mutual aid get some panels, an inverter, a deep cycle battery, and fill your car with water bottles and drive directly toward the next black *day crisis. if you can charge phones, give cunts a drink, and haul donations around you'll have more dual power than you ever dreamed of in no time.
No.1684916
>>1684910>implying I, or any of my comrades, can afford a car + fuelSeriously though, good idea. However, the point is that simply doing charity work is not enough. Indeed, if you stick to that only, you'll end up being outpaced by churches and liberal charity orgs who can do charity
a thousand times more effectively than you
and who have an interest in maintaining the status quo.
For those in the crowd, I'm not saying
not to do it, but to:
A. Make a point to try involve as many other progressive orgs as possible in a coherent manner.
B. Identify objectives
aside from the obvious provision of supplies such as disseminating progressive ideology (climate change and it's relation to capital, the uncaring nature of big business etc.)
C. Establish and maintain support networks for events
beyond the immediately unfolding crisis
No.1684917
Australia belongs to California.
No.1685655
>>1684917>Australia belongs to CaliforniaNo shit, dipshit. They're like our rednecks Southerners Floridamen. If only Aussies ain't pussies, they should've rioting again.
No.1685759
>>1684906That's a good goal, I don't know enough people IRL who would be interested in doing that. I think we need to all move to the one place to get this thing going.
No.1687521
>>1685652awooga hummina hummina titties etc
what'd she say?
No.1687584
>>1687521its a video
you click the video
No.1687735
>Journalists, editors and senior media figures from the newsrooms of the ABC, Guardian Australia, The Sydney Morning Herald, The Age, Schwartz Media and others have put their names to an open letter calling for greater scrutiny in the reporting of the conflict between Israel and Hamas.
>The letter has drawn a stern response from the ABC, with the public broadcaster warning staff that signing the letter may bring into question their ability to cover the story impartially.
>“As I have said several times recently, maintaining trust and credibility as an ABC staff member means you forego the opportunity to share your opinions about stories on which you report or may be involved in,” ABC’s director of news, Justin Stevens, told staff in a note.
>“You should not sign any petition that may bring into question your impartiality or that of the ABC’s coverage.”
>In early November, more than 200 ABC journalists participated in a meeting at which a number of complaints were raised over how the public broadcaster had covered the conflict.
>Staff shared frustrations over the broadcaster’s unwillingness to use terms including “invasion”, “occupation”, “genocide”, “apartheid” and “ethnic cleansing” regarding Israeli government policy and allegations made by human rights groups. The broadcaster’s managing director, David Anderson, said while taking talkback calls on ABC Melbourne last week that it wasn’t the ABC’s place to use such terms.
>A statement from the executive editor of The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age, Tory Maguire, and editors of the mastheads said any newsroom staff who had signed the letter would be unable to participate in any reporting or production relating to the war going forward.
No.1688051
>>1684591>23 protesters charged at Port Botany ZIM protestYou've played your part ausianons. Yemenchads got it from here.
No.1688206
went to the Palestine rally in Syd today. Walking through the city with a Palestinian flag and some yobbo yells "do you wave the Australian flag or only wave foreign flags"?
How do you deal with these reactionaries? These people are the most aggressive defenders of the status quo.
No.1688241
>>1688206>How do you deal with these reactionaries?Depends. Someone like that who I don't have time to converse with and I'll never meet again, would probably just laugh at them and point.
>>1688233Or this.
Didn't get a chance to check out the unions corner but I heard they brought the pet birdies in OP pic.
No.1688276
>>1688241Oh yeah saw someone with the unions with the birds. What's the significance of it?
No.1688277
>>1688233Yeah I just kinda sperged and ignored him. My brain didn't work fast enough this time.
No.1688337
>>1688276They look cool and I like them.
:D
No.1688339
>>1688277Honestly, that's not a bad reaction. 7/10
No.1689748
>>1689744Before I saw that I was straight up avin a giggle at the person handing out fliers for pine gap at the palestine protest, which just said 'email these MPs'.
No.1691260
>>1691184Exterminate all cops
No.1694351
>NSNiqgers march in Ballarat
>too dumb to bring a Eureka flag
lol
No.1694355
>>1694351oopsies u said bad wurd
No.1694363
>>1694355its ok im aaron mcgruder .
No.1701804
I called Penny Wong's office today to voice disapproval at Wong's plan to meet with Israeli officials on her trip to Middle East next year. The guy who answered the phone was a bit of a snarky prick. He seemed to get a bit triggered tbh and actually started an argument with me before he probably realised that's not his role.
Pick up the phone comrades, it might not be much but they actually hate it.
No.1702505
Australia makes world-first decision to ban engineered stone following surge in silicosis caseshttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-12-13/engineered-stone-ban-discussed-at-ministers-meeting/103224362>Engineered stone will be banned in most states and territories from July 2024umm
Based?
No.1704740
>>1702768Fuck off man, what a middle class piece of shit you are.
No.1705519
>>1701804Is it bad praxis to call up Wong and call her racial slurs?
No.1705520
>>1705519there'd probably be a knock on the door at sone point but that hanjian deserves a wake up call
No.1705542
>>1705519Seriously, imagine thinking boring race slurs even qualifies as 'praxis'. Even if it weren't just going to a secretary, it would still be counter-productive and childish.
No.1705715
>>1705519you are a colossal fuckwit.
No.1707580
>>1707559lol. no mention of barilaro joining the alameddine's property development front company.
No.1707667
>>1707559>"This alleged attack was coordinated and targeted, with more arrests expected in the coming days and weeks ahead.," he said.>"It was a long and lengthy investigation which is why it's taken over 12 months to arrest the first person.">Detective Superintendent Arbinja said police know "at least four people were involved", including the man arrested yesterday. "Those three [additional] people acted in a joint criminal enterprise with the person arrested yesterday," he said.I don't think they're likely to get anyone really important, but the less of those fuckers, the better.
No.1712264
>>1707856>Australia (population 25 million) annex Indonesia, fourth most populous country in the world.Looks like we've got a geopolitical expert in our midst.
No.1714795
>>1713826Cool find. Context?
No.1714909
>>1714794Fucking nice, shame he wasn't inside the car at the time though
No.1726619
New NSN dox coming soon, along with a request for information from those in Adelaide.
https://nitter.cz/WhiteRoseSocAU/status/1745650877782974734#m No.1733743
>>1731812Blockade is apparently still ongoing.
Literally hundreds of loser accounts on shitty social media platforms are getting hilariously angry about it, throwing out all the bottom-tier fallacies. I honestly hope they're not bots or Siberian clickfarms, just impotent nerds who can't leave their twitter feeds.
No.1734298
>>1727852Left Comms/Neo-Kautskyites grouplet. More of a fbi.gov group than an org. Good to see people taking it upon themselves to create orgs however.
Here is a rep of one of their youth sections talking at a Platypus Soc event [56:44 - 1:00:05]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLSj2IZOgpg&ab_channel=PlatypusAffiliatedSociety No.1737332
>Government breaks election promise, broadens benefits of stage 3 tax cuts
Thoughts?
No.1737370
>>1735860Based. Keep the pressure on these pricks
No.1737375
>>1737332Albo's feeling the heat.
No.1738544
>>1734298>Left Comms/Neo-KautskyitesAren't these opposites?
No.1739335
>>1738368>>1738544If it sounds eclectic that's because that's what it is - Left Communist theoretically, NeoKaut organisationally
No.1745866
>>1743023>not Socialism>Eco-Anarchism🤢
No.1748563
>>1748548>A police officer who performed a report based on information downloaded from Thomas’s phone found that he appeared fascinated with China and symbols of the Chinese Communist party and that there were no religious images or verses from the Qur’an present.Kek
No.1749972
>>1748548>>1748563Nazbolism has entered a new era.
No.1749987
>>1748548Samuel francis has talked about this before in a case where the police entrap people using real cp just to fill quotas of arrests
He called it anarcho-tyranny, where the police create criminals to catch later
No.1752897
There was a thread last year for liberal studies discovering shit everyone already knew. Here's one:
Allan Fels's ACTU initiated price gouging report calls for government to act against exploitative practices of big businesshttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-07/allan-fels-price-gouging-report-cost-of-living-crisis/103431866>Banks, supermarkets, aviation and energy companies are exploiting their market power in ways that drive up inflation and hurt Australian households, according to the former chair of the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC).
>The report by Allan Fels found that rising prices were not just caused by true inflation but often by greed, corporate gouging and "profit pushing" by companies with too much market power.[…]
>ACTU secretary Sally McManus said its findings confirmed "what working people suspected".
>"Some big businesses have added to inflation and have too much power over customers, workers, and supply chains. This needs to be reined in," she said.
>"The gaming of the system in the wholesale energy market is particularly concerning.
>"Generation makes up 30 per cent of our household bills and Fels asserts there is gouging in the system which is causing workers to pay too much. Action here could have an immediate effect on our cost of living. No.1752920
When are we sending Albo and that cunt Penny Wong to face the ICC at The Hague for being accessory to Israel’s genocide in Gaza by cutting the funding to UNRWA minutes after the ICJ ruled that Israel was not to inhibit humanitarian aid to Gaza? Honestly the ALP are a pack of Zionist cunts and I hope I live to see the day when Bob Katter crosses the Rubicon and proclaims himself Caesar of Glorious Queensland before having all State and Federal Labor members arrested and fed to crocodiles.
No.1756330
>>1755350He's not a donkey, he was literally deputy prime minister and he's shit faced every day.
No.1756357
>>1752920Is Katter pro Palestine?
No.1756936
>>1756330>He's not a donkeyQuit lying.
No.1778419
>ausfailia
lol
lmao
No.1778423
>>1724558>ZIM Danubelololo
gehehe
No.1788018
>>1778417My mate at the docks says they now have 'scheduled maintenance' (despite the people doing the maintenance not being aware of this until suddenly now)
Free win, gather again next week.
No.1795205
What if we convinced cookers that there were aliens in Pine Gap?
No.1803921
repostin
>>1803518—–
New ZIM ship blockade @ Sydney, Australia in 18 hours
https://linktr.ee/stopzimshippingMaritime Union is onboard with it and due to a recent contract win, they still get paid if they can't make it to their shift due to a picket. Comrades in the union have done well to spread the good word among fellow workers.
No.1809225
>>1803921Are these guys shipping weapons to Israel?
No.1812814
>>1812793based
Deth to Ausfalia.
No.1812949
>>1809225Probably. I recall at least military aid shipping being stated, and ZIM has a history of it. Plus, there are weapons manufacturing facilities for critical F-35 components in Bankstown. Anyone in or around Sydney region (or with contacts there) should make an effort to go to the upcoming protest of weapons manufacturing facilities supporting the invasion.
No.1820838
>>1814187whatever fate befalls us as a country, we deserve it, but at the very least can't our decline be entertaining? The yanks will probably get a civil war at least
No.1820846
>>1814187So THATS why they are giving you nuke subs kek.
No.1821742
Terror attack in Bondi.
No.1821752
If it's a terrorist attack, what's the bet they tie it to Palestine?
No.1821754
>>1821752It's a Jewish neighborhood apparently. Guy stabbed up a couple people at the mall, he's dead now.
No.1821920
>>1821754About 10%. The Jewish schools are in a different suburb ages away, and the richest (and one of the most Jewish) areas in the country is about 15 minutes down the road.
No.1821921
>>1820846Also so that we subsidise foreign weapons manufacturers for billions of dollars and sacrifice our own defense to have subs in the Straights of Mallaca to attack China's merchant fleet (which the Chinese will bypass anyway through Eurasian trade links) when conflict pops off.
No.1823758
>>1821742the cops literally said it wasn't, dude was just a schizo
No.1823871
>>1821742it was just an incel again.
No.1823973
>New South Wales Police said Sunday that Joel Cauchi, 40, was responsible for the Saturday afternoon attack at the Westfield Shopping Centre in Bondi Junction,
Lol and the right wingers were going on and on from the preliminary photos that he was clearly arab.
No.1823981
>>1823888If he was homeless then it is something poverty driven desperation.
No.1825162
>>1823888Daughter of John Singleton was killed, wtf maybe it was targeted.
No.1825165
>>1825162In a mall? Not exactly the best place if he was stalking her
No.1825249
>Another stabbing in Sydney
Okay this has to be some glowie shit.
No.1826075
Anyone else feel like racism level is really extreme atm? I know it's always bad but the amount of racist shit I see online just going completely unchecked is getting to me a bit
No.1826080
>>1826075Yeah I think letting teenagers have unchecked internet access since 2013-14 to right-wing pundits who tell them that all their problems are caused by the marginalized may have turned people more unhinged and racist.
No.1826745
>>1826075It gets to me, too. I hate it. I love this country and its people, but there are many times where I sit and think about how there is something truly rotten at the core of "Australia", or whatever you want to call this continent. I can't remember or find where, but I remember reading somewhere about Lenin's frustration with the Russian people during World War One, wondering when the slaughter would be enough to motivate people to action. I can only hope that the right will continue to be nothing more than disorganised hooligans with a nazi aesthetic rather than a serious threat while the left gets it shit together. Hopefully those pseudo-reactionary teenagers will do nothing but hide behind their IP addresses and not actually do anything but try to look intimidating.
Unironically, if more people actually read Lenin and locked in for commitment to the cause we'd be miles ahead of any other political cause. Australian Socialism will become reality, I'm sure of it. The Eureka Cross will fly over Canberra one day.
No.1826816
>>1826745The right is actually very organised, and actively growing with them publicly forming chapters outside of the cities now.
Don't fall for the liberal trap of thinking them doing fewer public stunts at the minute represents them being disorganised.
No.1826852
>>1826745As much as I wish you were right I'm not optimistic tbh. I think this country will stay shackled to the dying Anglo American hegemon and just become more and more reactionary and backward. Our country is literally founded on racism. I don't think it can really be liberated.
No.1827238
>>1826816Do the chapters actually do anything?
No.1827908
>>1826745I do understand this, but there was another thread where CPUSAnon made some great points about how the Fascists of today aren't much more than petty street gangs with an aesthetic, something CPUSAnon called "Witch Doctor Politics" (Pic related).
<The problem with modern Fascists is beyond broadly not reading their own theory, they take what I'd coin the "Witch Doctor" approach to politics. They elevate politics to purely performative rituals in the hopes that it'll mean actual power. Y'know in some way Patriot Front is more genuinely American than any other Fascist group out there because they're concerned with appearances and how they appear on camera rather than doing anything "offscreen."
<But yeah, like I was saying. Most Fascist only have political expression without political construction. They'll do things like hold a sign with an inflammatory statement out, threaten to start fights, then throw up a nazi salute. It's like the atomized white guy's version of a flash mob.
<Let's go back to Patriot Front: they're training in marching formations with shield and club tactics. Beyond just embarrassing themselves, it reveals they're trying to make the brownshirts without having a real reason for them. They recognize that early Fascists had bodyguards, but they can't understand why the various shirts-militias existed in the first place, or what they did other than "fight leftists."
<Mosley's Blackshirts beat up tax collectors trying to get some church tithe from farmers. The Brownshirts sold cigarettes. juilossW's Blackshirts were more combat oriented, granted, but it wasn't like they didn't have people winning hearts and minds-Casapound set up a youth hostel and health clinic. The Falange supported workers co-ops.
<Can anyone say what these groups do other than shit their pants in public? What makes the thing even more comical is that most of these guys aren't, like, psychotic combat veterans. Shit, from what I saw in the Patriot Front doxx it was mostly pasty-looking suburban nerds with, like, one violent former felon among them. So you've got kids who think they're hard because they smoked weed once in highschool tagging bus stops. Plus these guys are terrified of consequences, so while the blackshirts were willing to get their teeth knocked in and do flagrantly illegal shit, up to literally assassinating their political enemies, these guys are just petty hooligans with a Nazi aesthetic.As
>>1827238 noticed, the NSN chapters, for example, don't really do much except show up, march around and have their little larp, and then piss off. I'd go further and criticise even Fascist "Theory" like the book Siege is pretty shit, actively encouraging lone-wolf style terrorist attacks - or, what Anarchists of the late 19th century called "Propaganda of the Deed", which we on the left learned a century ago is not an effective strategy for recruiting likeminded people. I'd be more concerned if they set up a street kitchen or something. They have their gyms, sure, but that's not much compared to, say, all the Union and broad front organising an org like the CPA does.
>>1826852the revolution will come to those who want it. There is a difference between us and the rest of the Anglos. Australians and New Zealander/Aotearoans are not, broadly speaking, fucking retarded like the Brits, nor backwardly close-minded like the Americans; or cucked into oblivion like the Canadians. We have a legitimate chance, I'm sure of it. This country was built on the blood of black martyrs and the sweat of white slaves. Remember that people of all colours hoisted the Cross of Stars at Eureka in 1854, and when the redcoats tried to cut nonwhite folks out of the concessions they were willing to give the miners told them to go fuck themselves. Reaction is prevalent in this country, yes, just look at r/AustraliaCirclejerk, hell, even in Tf2 lobbies I've gotten shit from other Australians for being an open Communist. But I've met far more Communists in Tf2's Sydney servers than I've met reactionaries. And even if it is just us, well, hell, all that means is we've gotta work harder.
Personally, I smell opportunity in the air. People are pissed at Labor and know they're full of shit. But the Liberals are worse, people still have that in the back of their minds. If we were to inject real class consciousness into their minds, and supplement that with a real alternative- "Australian Socialism", or "Socialism with Australian Characteristics", even - and we organise properly and militantly, I am certain we could make some real change. We're not outnumbered. We're out-organised.
Combat Doomerism. Kappa.
No.1828343
>>1827908I consider them training under a belief system that aims to use that violence against already marginalised people in our society a bad thing, regardless of its effectiveness in establishing a fascist regime. Ditto for their ideological leaning towards lone wolf attacks.
Remember, these were the ones trying to recruit Tarrant when he was known to be plotting a terror attack by observers.
No, a fascist state isn't around the corner from them, but they are also growing a lot more effectively than any antifascist counter-otganising at the minute which should concern us, because the target of their ineffective violence tends to be working class people at the fringes. If you have no interest in defending working class people by eradicating fascist organising, stop calling yourself a socialist of whatever variety tbh.
No.1828350
>>1827908>I do understand this, but there was another thread where CPUSAnon made some great points about how the Fascists of today aren't much more than petty street gangs with an aesthetic, Thats not CPUSAnon's analysis thsts just a basic observation of large segments of fascism in the West since literally world war 2..
These people are extremely dangerous and need to be combated, and it does not matter 1 bit if these people are far from power, the important part is people with power are willing to set them loose and utilise them for their own violent needs.
We don't do antifa because there is a serious chance these people are gonna take power, one would have to be a downs child to think so, we do it because these people when organised are extremely dangerous to the communities we live in and around.
No.1828359
>>1828343>>1828350This is true and I agree with it. Their strategies are shit and their politicking is terrible, but their "praxis" strategies are why we should watch out for whenever they do have a little chimpout. They are small and ineffective, yes, but we should not under any circumstances let our guard down when dealing with them.
No.1828424
They aren't dangerous and have zero influence. Even the Centre Party/New Guard fizzled out and that was in an environment that could potentially have been conducive to fascist thought. Every far-right group in this country absolutely glows, and has a belief system that is so antithetical to the interests of elites that they simply won't be allowed to acquire any influence what so ever.
No.1828614
>>1828424>Every far-right group in this country absolutely glows, and has a belief system that is so antithetical to the interests of elites that they simply won't be allowed to acquire any influence what so ever.Maybe there's a case study in this, how fascists' yammering on about da jooz and muh africans is completely alien to what Rupert and Gina et al are interested in. They just want to keep the exports and subsidies going, completely in line with the Americans. If the time came for "oh no, the commies are getting a bit scary, time to get some right-wing crackdowns going" 99% chance they'd just funnel all their efforts into the far-right faction of the LNP. Why would they give a shit about some racist cookers in victoria?
That said, it does need to be pointed out that another good reason why the Centre Party/Guard fizzled is because they got their shit kicked in by Communists. We shouldn't be complacent.
No.1828668
So did anyone figured out why the premiers got stabbed?
No.1828794
>>1827908>"Australian Socialism", or "Socialism with Australian Characteristics"It's 'socialisme sans doctrine' for me.
I've fpund some local success by taking a more De Leonist approach (without the screeing). It's not enough, but starting from zero means I'll use what seems to work locally.
No.1828804
>>1828692100% they're gonna try copy US yellow peril
>>1828794not having a doctrine is not a good idea broadly speaking, you can't run off vibes forever; but i'm not you so hey, if it works, onya m8
No.1830647
>>1820838Being a proxy in the US-China conflict does not entertain you?
What do you want? Clive Palmer? Indo invasion? You getting off your arse and emmanentising a revolution?
No.1830666
Will make some effortposts re: /study fascism/ tonight. Stay tuned.
In the mean time, the thread is archived at
>>>/leftypol_archive/589420 and there are a couple of posts specifically mentioning the Tom Sewer and the Turds.
I will quickly say Commissar has some good points. As for neo-Nazism's efficacy: a few socialist groups, trade unions and mediocre Muslim orgs have done infinitely more to hurt da joo in a few months than neo-Nazis have in the same time plus seven decades. They have passion but no strategic skills, and no tactics beyond attention whoring and attempted terror. Like I mentioned in that thread, and like Commissar said, maymay warfare and PotD siegefaggotry is not going to work. It will kill innocent people, but it won't achieve their goals or threaten 'the system' and is not viable at scale.
No.1830870
>>1830666>They have passion but no strategic skillsthat's charitable. they're a barking dog that shows up from time to time to justify the government tamping down on our right to protest.
No.1830873
Just migrated to Australia, pretty cool country. Cheers.
No.1830879
>>1830873>pretty cool countryEh, in some ways.
I'd rather live here than most places, but fuck Australia. Come join a party.
No.1830883
>>1830873Fuck off, we're full
No.1830897
>>1830883Sorry, you actually have a shortage of teachers.
>>1830879Eh, better than my country at least.
No.1830899
more zionist motivated extremism in melbs. went to protest and one of the speakers informed everyone that his house got firebombed after he organised a protest at the israeli embassy. the story is going onto social media tonight. probably won't hit the mainstream media or even get properly investigated by the cops.
No.1830903
>>1830899>the story is going onto social media tonight.surely someone noticed a fucking
fire, comrade. how do you plan a media release for that?
No.1830908
>>1830903mate, the whole purpose of the media is to set an agenda provide a distraction from everything else. there are like 1500 house fires every year the news doesn't run 4 house fire stories a day. it's beyond trivial to sweep it under the rug.
No.1830911
What's the deal with the future made in Australia act? Seems like a good thing.
No.1830944
>>1830932thanks, sounds nice.
No.1833090
>>1830903Didn’t that YouTuber got his house firebombed and still nothing came out of it?
No.1833135
>>1833090yeah, and jordies is a fucking libtard.
No.1833282
>>1830911After off-shoring all of our shit they want to bring shit back on shore. Our government should learn lessons from South Korea, Thaliand and Taiwan. Our only domestic plastics manufacturing capability just closed down because of high gas network prices.
You need to start from the bottom and build up rather than randomly picking shit like solar panels which we have zero competitive advantage in.
The Coalition tried this with weapons. Again, we can't do it, because we don't have economic complexity. We just procured some shit from local branches of Thales and called it a day.
No.1833283
If you think of our political class as people who have not involved in intellect or ideology since the time they entered student politics, their economic policies make a lot more sense.
No.1833713
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-24/social-media-companies-blamed-for-extremism-by-law-enforcement/103760706>We recognise the role that technologies like end-to-end encryption play in protecting personal data, privacy and cyber security, but there is no absolute right to privacy
>Without their help in very limited and strictly controlled circumstances, encryption is unaccountable,>In effect, unaccountable encryption is like building a safe room for terrorists and spies, a secure place where they can plot and plan.Meanwhile:
>>1787978 No.1834350
>>1833084SEP are faggots. They are ineffective ultra retirees who have no solidarity with other comrades, whether it be other parties or worker unions. I have a hard time justifying ranking them above the bloody Greens. At least the Greens ""work"" with other groups instead of being a whiny parasite.
No.1834352
>>1833090That was all over the news, like mainstream news. So I don't see your point that a small fire believed to be politically motivated would be talked about on social media, even just by people at the event they were telling everyone at.
No.1834355
>>1834352Then how come nobody got caught for that?
No.1834356
>>1834355That's not the point.
Also, don't be a cunt:
No.1834393
>>1834352nah I'm fucking dumb actually. they picked it up but only after it went on social media. the fucking j-town mob came back for the burgertory guy's family.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/firebomb-attack-at-the-home-of-hash-tayeh-20240422-p5flqf.html No.1834951
>>1830666>a few socialist groups, trade unions and mediocre Muslim orgs have done infinitely more to hurt da joo in a few months than neo-Nazis have in the same time plus seven decadesBecause the far right was under extremely close scrutiny after da joo won WW2.
But watch what will happen now.
No.1835032
>>1834393>the fucking j-town mob came back for the burgertory guy's family.Jeez, literal textbook terrorism. I've been out of the media for a couple of weeks but this is just fucked.
Zionists really out here losing all support among moderate liberals.
also did they just throw fire bombs at concrete and metal? Idiots>“The police have failed to protect this community. There have been so many attacks, not just against me, but against so many of us and now this has hit home and bombs were thrown at my house.” No.1835039
>>1834951And, by scrutiny, I guess you mean 'being funded by the CIA'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_GladioWhite Nationalists work hand-in-hand with other racial separatists like Black Nationalists and Zionists. Zionists
want Jews to feel unsafe in the US, Europe and Australia, so that they will go to Israel and fight. They love what neo-Nazis are doing. Socialists, on the other hand, actually threaten their wallet by enacting workers rights and community building. The far-right are too strategically bankrupt to endorse anything smarter than Siegefaggotry, which just kills a few people and changes nothing. The result of a fundamentally broken analysis of society.
A far-right kiddo would do more to achieve their goals by just pretending to be a leftist. Hell, it's what the NSDAP and ᴉuᴉlossnW did.
No.1836654
>>1835032wonder if we can foia victoria police to find out if they ever discuss foisting this on the tobacco war or the mossad connection considering it happened after a demo at the israeli embassy.
No.1836768
>>1830666The difference is white nationalists don't believe the Jews are literal devils and it's hard to get average white people to hate Jews. Islam teaches that Jews are the spawn of Satan and that's why Mohammed and his followers did this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banu_Qurayza No.1836858
>>1836768That's pretty tangiental to the point, anon. In fact, the people doing the most damage (in the West) aren't even Muslim.
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