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 No.1797117[Last 50 Posts]

Remember!!: Always voot with confidence!

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Evidence of the influence and origin of neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine
https://archive.ph/44B9Q
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323637
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323658
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323663
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323688
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323729
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323733
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323731
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323735
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323740

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>Video Essays / Historical Background
📺 Ukraine: The Avoidable War - Boy Boy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL4eNy4FCs8

📺 America, Russia, and Ukraine's Far Right - Gravel Institute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0pyVJG7_6Q (Link TBA)

📺 Crimea vs Taiwan: Who Gets Self-Determination? - BadEmpanada
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W_UH4fmyj0

📺 The Nature of Putin's Russia and Its Causes (3-Part Series) - 1Dime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8d6Vzi7zYg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zODWTfMwFGw
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 No.1806814

>>1806753
>>1806757
>>1806781
yep, indeed, its all morons
thats not rational use of terror to optimally reach a goal. Thats just bloodthirsty morons, absolutely embarassing

 No.1806815

>>1806801
>you dont cheer on torture and death some peabrained schizo will call it glow
That's a strawman you people invented. You were more offended for treatment the terrorist received than the act that they committed. The fact that you are comparing Abu Ghrarib to how these 4 were treated is disingenuous and not remotely the same.

 No.1806822

>>1806781
>torture for show outside of any legal proceeding by random security agents is in any way similar to communist organized terror against bourgeois reaction in a revolutionary process
trying to cloak your mental illness in communist rhetoric ?

 No.1806823

>>1806815
i didnt say any of that retarded shit lmao the only thing i said regarding the torture was replying to someone saying it was bad optics for russia by saying i doubt anyone who isnt already aligned with the west will care at all. i dont think this particular instance is a big deal at all one way or another, especially relative to the scale of the attack, im talking about the smug sadistic glee of so many regulars in this thread. at the very least it makes it difficult to discuss anything in earnest because even good faith hypothetical speculation is accused of being insidious if it isnt 2 dimensional le holhols are demons memes

 No.1806824

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>Lukashenko: They keep yapping on about the Suwalki Corridor. How much is it from our border to Kaliningrad Oblast? …42 kilometers, 90 along the border. That is practically nothing. But because of that nothing they keep acting like this. Right now you will have to confront the Baltic States, and also take a part of Poland. Are you sure you will be able to keep it?
<All plans are ready, battle readiness is being worked on, the personnel is being prepared. In particular, what is provided for by your instructions is already being implemented by the order of the Minister of Defense as part of the preparation of fortified areas. We do not just go out to the areas of the field exit and to the areas of the exercises, including, as now, to real areas, so that the personnel, officers know the area, know the roads, know where, how, what, so that they can make decisions on the ground and be ready directly for real action
Happening?

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 No.1806829

>>1806824
that is a cute dig

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 No.1806836

>>1806823
>im talking about the smug sadistic glee
Because terrorism is bad and killing 140 people including children inspires a certain kind of anger in people, I don't think any of the "support" is politically motivated or a political statement by any means and whether people "supported" it or not is entirely irrelevant because it happened entirely independently of this thread, funnily enough.

>i doubt anyone who isnt already aligned with the west will care at all

And the irony about this is those people could have shown up in court looking like they've just arrived back from holiday and there will still be "reports" of psychological torture, it would be totally believed and condemned.

The maddening thing about these lectures in morality or consistency for political alignment is that it seems to be a thing exclusively reserved for this thread and any of the handful of English-speaking anti-NATO spaces on the internet. 99% of the internet is pro-Ukraine to the level of basically being under the jurisdiction of Kiev, Ukrainian war crimes are routinely dismissed because to criticise them would be "victim blaming" because umm sweety Ukraine is the one that got invaded if you've forgotten. Like I'm certain the reason you're here and not in any of the places that celebrates Ukraine shelling civilians is because at least here you're given a word in edgewise, you try criticising "Darya Dugina steaks" on /r/Ukraine or wherever the fuck and you're gone bucko, instantly.

 No.1806844

>>1806823
I understand where you're coming from. I do want to warn you that this comes off as a form of concern trolling, an early form of sympathizing with the devil that makes passionate people see you as pointlessly being horrified by what is inherent to war (remember the not making excuses for the terror thing) at best, covert nafo at worse.

 No.1806846

>>1806836
i mean yeah im also here because i know that the west and their fascist puppet state are the aggressors in this war

 No.1806851

>>1806844
yeah i recognize that it can sound like concern trolling. my intention is not to equivocate or scold, i appreciate this thread because its one of the only english language places on the internet that has an actually sane position on the war, so its disappointing when e.g. the other day it was treated as suspect to even wait for actual evidence to come out before deciding who perpetrated the attack. but i wont shit up the thread any more on this subject

 No.1806852

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is this real?

 No.1806860

>>1806778
Artist???

 No.1806863

>>1806852
funny, but no, it's not real, they just talk about how the freight business is failing and there's no reason for ships to come to baltimore

 No.1806871

>>1806846
And that's fair enough, I'm just saying stuff like torture is indefensible from a political and legal standpoint but I don't think anyone when they say anecdotally that they feel on a personal level these terrorists deserved a bit of a roughing up is at the same saying
>I love torture
>torture is based
>Russia should just torture anyone now for any reason
So calling people sadistic sociopaths for talking in anger about people who committed such awful crimes is sus at best and just being oblivious to the human condition at worst and that is bad because in the outside world you've gotta understand which hills are worth dying on in terms of calling psychopaths for not religiously obeying civil liberties in their minds when wronged.

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apparently the central Ukr intelligence office in Ukraine is no more
Still looking for sources but random Twitter tho

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>>1806891
Head of the FSB also said today that SBU must be classified as a terrorist organization, though I doubt anything will come out of it, they are esteemed partners after all

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 No.1806931

Radio War Nerd/Mark Ames Newsletter on the attack:

Mark Ames: IS-K's Friends in High Places

“Why should our goal right now be to defeat the Islamic State in Syria?…Trump should let ISIS be Assad’s, Iran’s, Hezbollah’s and Russia’s headache — the same way we encouraged the mujahedeen fighters to bleed Russia in Afghanistan.”
-Thomas Friedman, New York Times, 2017


I’m writing this just after the terrorist attack on the concert hall outside Moscow. As of right now there are 139 dead, more than were killed in the infamous Nord-Ost theater attack by Chechen jihadis in 2002; fewer than the ISIS bombing of a Russian chartered plane over Egypt in 2015 that killed 224 Russian tourists and crew.

It’s always dangerous to start speculating so early when a big deadly event like this takes place. But rather than pretend I can solve who ordered the attack, I'm going to try to lay out why it's not unreasonable for the Kremlin to suspect Ukraine and its western sponsors played a role.

The big question, of course, is: Who’s behind it?

As I’ll show later on in this article, IS-K or Islamic State-Khorasan, the ISIS offshoot behind Friday's attack in Moscow, has a documented history of tailoring its terrorist operations to its foreign intelligence sponsors’ needs. In fact, it wasn’t long ago that IS-K had foreign sponsors from the Gulf monarchies who ordered IS-K to carry out attacks designed to weaken Russia. So yes, there is a documented history of IS-K hitting Russia for its foreign sponsors, and therefore, we have to consider the possibility today.

Earlier this month, the US Embassy in Moscow warned of an imminent attack by “extremists” who planned “to target large gatherings in Moscow, to include concerts.” The warning came just a couple of days after the FSB killed six alleged IS militants in a massive shootout in Karabulak, a town in the southern Russian republic of Ingushetia, a majority-Muslim republic adjacent to Chechnya.

US intelligence is blaming the Moscow attack on IS-K, or Islamic State in Khorasan Province, that province referring to all of Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Central Asia, and Iran, along with parts of Russia and India* (*Giustozzi). The relationship between Islamic State-Central (such as it still exists) and IS-K is murky, like all things terrorism and intelligence.

We know that IS-K carried out the attack. But did they have a sponsor or sponsors? When it comes to the most obvious suspect for who would've sponsored the attack, the one with the biggest motive to hit Russia where it hurts and fracture or collapse the state, the one with a proven track record of using armed “extremists” to attack Russians inside Russia — then Ukraine’s intelligence services have to be seriously considered.

The fact that the four terrorists were caught on the M3 Highway (known as the “Ukraine Highway”) in Khatsun, just 140km (85 miles) from the Ukraine border, doesn’t look good for Ukraine, to put it mildly. The attack took place at the Krokus Concert Center, west-northwest of Moscow in the suburbs. The shortest route out of Russia would’ve been to take the M1 (“Belarus Highway”) west through Smolensk to Belarus, about 450 km (280 miles). Instead, they took a longer route south on the M3 for the Ukrainian border 530 km (330 miles) from the attack site, adding nearly 80km (50 miles) to their trip..

Putin has already publicly claimed that the four attackers had handlers on the Ukraine border waiting to spirit them to safety, but he stopped short of outright blaming Ukraine.

The four terrorists [I’ll use that loaded word “terrorist” here, because it’s easier for everyone and it’s appropriately descriptive for IS] have all been detained, along with several others suspected of providing help. And if early information is correct – and the brutal interrogation videos seem to back this up — the four who carried out the attack are all from Tajikistan.

I watched a few of the FSB interrogations, one filmed in the cold outdoors just after capture near Bryansk. One suspect spoke Russian in a heavy foreign (ie, Central Asian) accent, and the other claimed not to speak Russian at all — he used a Tajik-Russian interpreter. (I was always advised by my Russian legal and extra-legal friends that if I should ever get in trouble in Russia, which I did on more than a few occasions, I should pretend not to speak Russian. So I often pretended to barely understand Russian, including the last time the Kremlin sent inspectors to The eXile’s office to investigate me for editorial crimes and “extremism.”)

The first thing that becomes clear from watching the videos is that there’s a roughly 0% chance the captured Tajiks organized their attack by themselves. They are young, ignorant and dumb, the perfect fodder for IS recruits, though not exactly the sort of pros ISIS usually sent out on their more spectacular missions, certainly not by the standards set by Chechen jihadis. For one thing, as many have pointed out, it’s odd that they’d make their getaway in the same white Renault that they arrived at the concert hall in.

This could have to do with FSB pressure on IS-K cells that had been going on in Russia for months, which may have forced a more rushed attack using backup fodder.


"in the case of Iran and Russia, targeting their interests…was a way to make IS-K useful to donors"

Whatever the case, an attack of this scale requires not just operational training, but also indoctrination, guidance, financing, planning, mapping, logistical support and so on. An infrastructure, a network.

The Kremlin and their media flaks spent the first couple of days insisting, angrily, that the attack was not carried out by IS-K. (Only now has Putin admitted that “radical Islamists” carried out the attack.)

 No.1806934

>>1806930
>Hongkong separatist
Eww, icky, yuck!

 No.1806935

>>1806931
cont., sorry for shit formatting dont have time

It seemed strange that Putin held out naming IS-K, considering the sheer number of IS incidents in Russia over the past year-plus, according to Russia’s own security services.

A short timeline of IS and IS-K incidents (credit to Eurasianet’s Peter Leonard):

*On March 22, the day of the concert attack, the FSB reported it detained 30 IS militants in Ingushetia, in the same town where they’d earlier killed 6 IS militants in a shootout;

*On March 20, the FSB announced it had arrested a wanted IS commander who had left Russia in 2014, and served with IS in Syria from 2015-19;

*On March 9, the FSB killed 2 suspected IS-K militants from Kazakhstan, allegedly preparing an attack on a Moscow synagogue using small arms and explosives. They were killed in a small town in the Kaluga region, about 200 km southwest of Moscow, on the main highway running from Moscow to Bryansk to Ukraine. Bryansk is where the Krokus terrorists were apprehended on their way to the border with Ukraine.

* In April 2023, the FSB announced they had arrested a Tajik ISIS cell leader, accused of recruiting another Tajik into his cell and preparing terrorist hits on the Moscow region and Novosibirsk. The FSB statement accuses the Tajik suspect of acquiring explosives and firearms, with the aim of bombing mass gatherings.

*September 2022, an IS-K suicide bomber detonated himself at the Russian Embassy in Kabul, killing a Russian diplomat and a security guard, as well as two Afghan employees.

Last year, Foreign Policy described how IS-K was reorienting its propaganda efforts to focus on fighting Russia, looking to take advantage of weaknesses created by the Ukraine war to expand into Russia’s Muslim-majority Caucasus regions. As we’ll see, like Ukraine and its western sponsors, IS-K sees opportunity in stoking chaos and sectarian violence in Russia.

IS-K (or IS-KP, the Islamic State in Khorasan Province) emerged out of ISIS (or IS-Central) in 2015, during ISIS’s heyday. Russia’s direct war with ISIS really began with its intervention in Syria at the end of September, 2015, just as this podcast was starting. A month after Russia intervened in Syria, ISIS bombed a Russian charter plane over Egypt, killing all 224 on board.


During the Syria war, a lot of Washington-London Cold Warrior hacks spilled a lot of ink trying to link Russia with the West’s villains, including ISIS. To the point that for a lot of people in the West, it might come as a surprise that ISIS and its IS-K offshoot would want to attack Russians. Why would one of America’s official villains want to kill the other villain? That doesn’t comport with the facile view of the world we’re usually given.


This villain-confusion created a propaganda problem for the Syria-interventionists who were trying to talk the country into another Iraq-style invasion. They couldn’t quite explain why Russia was at war with our official state villains, ISIS and Al Qaeda. Or why our allies in Syria, the so-called “moderate rebels” created by the CIA, were allied with Al Qaeda and ISIS, our alleged enemies. If Russia was fighting our official enemies, that made Russia our ally; and if the US supported Syrian rebel groups who were allied with our official enemies, that made our allies our enemies. It made selling the war a tough product to peddle for neocons who like simple black-white good-evil messaging.

If anything, what the Syria war really demonstrated was another example, going back to the Afghanistan wars of the 1980s, of the CIA working with Islamist extremists to kill Russians and Russia’s allies, while lying about it to the rest of us.

As Biden’s National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan wrote to his then-boss Hillary Clinton in 2016, “AQ [Al Qaeda] is on our side in Syria.”

Even Obama’s Secretary of State John Kerry was recorded describing how the US used ISIS for leverage against Assad: “watching” ISIS “growing in strength” and hoping this would mean “that Assad might then negotiate, but instead of negotiating he got Putin to support him.” In other words, Kerry was miffed that Putin attacked ISIS and Al Qaeda and ruined his big 5-D chess plan to overthrow Assad.

This is one explanation for why Putin and the Kremlin initially refused to acknowledge that Friday’s terrorist attack was carried out by IS-K. To the Kremlin, with fresh memories of the Syria war, IS and Al Qaeda are proxies of the US and its allies’ intelligence services. To limit blame to just IS-K, without naming its sponsor, is to fall into the trap of protecting the proxy group's sponsors. In the case of ISIS, it was an open secret that America’s NATO ally Turkey provided all manner of support, along with America’s “moderate” Gulf allies, Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

Another reason Putin didn’t want to admit IS-K’s role is that the US said it was IS-K, and the last thing the Kremlin wants to admit is that the US was a) right, and b) offered advance intelligence warnings. To them, this is basically getting concern-trolled by Russia’s main adversary, whose stated strategic goal towards Russia, according to the Biden Administration, is to “weaken Russia”.

 No.1806938

>>1806935
Remarkably, uncannily, this Moscow IS-K slaughter is the second major IS-K attack in 2024 that the US says it had advance intelligence on, and nobly warned its adversaries about. In January, the US claimed to have advance warning — and claimed to have warned Iran in-advance — about IS-K’s deadly attack in Kerman that killed 94 and wounded nearly 300. Ain’t it strange that IS-K is only hitting America’s chief adversaries, and stranger that we have advance warning each time!

The way our media is framing Putin’s reaction to US warnings days before the attack gives the sense that Russia was deliberately doing nothing about the IS threat, which as the list of Russian operations against ISIS above shows, is obviously false. What Putin’s peeved dismissal showed was that he took US warnings as disingenuous, cynical, designed “to destabilize our society.”

Given the Pentagon's stated goal to “weaken” Russia, a goal that has been pursued with unprecedented levels of military, intelligence and financial aid to Ukraine, it’s easy to understand Putin’s dismissal of US warnings as mere propaganda—as if Russia didn’t already know about the threat.

What’s less easy to understand is why the Kremlin, aware of the IS-K threat in a visceral way, didn’t beef up security at large-scale venues like the Krokus Concert Center. Jihadists have attacked Moscow concerts in the past. Why not at least provide venue security with guns? Locals say that security in big targets like mega-malls has been pure theater, plain for all to see. Security at the front gate to the concert hall consisted of metal detectors (that some say were haphazardly used), and unarmed guards.

The Kremlin initially denied that IS-K carried out the attack because the Kremlin didn’t want it to be IS-K. Putin has framed his war on Ukraine as an existential war against Anglo-Western imperialism, with Ukraine as NATO’s stalking horse. Not much different from the US NatSec State, which very eagerly disengaged from the GWOT against Muslims in favor of the infinitely more lucrative two-front Cold Wars with Russia and China, wars which promise all the big ticket boats and planes that go with big scary and familiar old enemies.

Putin came to power in 1999 warring against Islamists from the Caucasus, but since early in his first term, he’s wanted that dirty war in Russia’s south wrapped up and out of sight. The war against NATO in Ukraine is the war Putin and his military want, the war that shows off Russia’s exportable big-ticket weapons systems, the war he’s spent the last two years re-engineering Russia’s political economy to fight. The last thing Putin and his circle needs is to be forced to draw resources away for another dirty counter-insurgency in Russia’s south, a war that could create real cracks and generate real separatism, depending on how it’s conducted.

The point of IS-K’s attack is to incite the big power, Russia, to get stupid and respond with vengeful overwhelming power, indiscriminate slaughters that radicalize the population and tear Russia apart. That’s not what Putin wants now, not while he’s waging a massive conventional war against Ukraine and its wealthy western sponsors.

Putin wants to pin the attack on Ukraine, to keep the population focused on the war that matters to him. And IS-K's own history gives the Kremlin grounds to suspect that they had partners.

 No.1806941

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>>1806871
Left-wingers are inherently less violent, which often leads to their failure. Anybody trying to argue that changing this is bad is a counter-revolutionary wrecker, that aims to keep communists down.

 No.1806947

Guys, i already readed "society democracy" i need more books

 No.1806948

>>1806947
Soviet* democracy

 No.1806954

>>1806941
This ^

Libs should stop with their shitbrained moralism. Violence is a tool, with a time and a place. The main mistake in the 20th century was not using it enough.

For fuck's sake, our planet is literally dying, yet shitlibs concern troll about how eeeeevul violence is. Exploitation, poverty, imperialism, genocide, and the destruction of our ecosystem are all violent.

BATINA, BATINA!

 No.1806956

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 No.1806967

It's over Brozzz…

 No.1806977

>>1806512
Imagine the smell

 No.1806987

>>1806824
It's kinda funny how despite not even being a colonel, Luka is the Supreme Commander in-chief of the Armed Forces of Belarus.

Also, maybe a training exercise sadly

 No.1806991

>>1806987
>maybe a training exercise
bummer

 No.1806992

>>1806987
that's wild, wait until you find out the military rank of the commander in chief of US armed forces

 No.1806993

>>1806992
Lol that's what I was gonna say

 No.1806996

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>>1806993
>>1806992
The joke is that Lukashenko once asked Putin to raise him in rank to Colonel, because he was only a Lieutenant Colonel in the Soviet Army, and thinks only the President of Russia as the successor to the USSR can bestow such an honor. Putin said there is no need. To this day, Lukashenko lusts for those Colonel shoulder boards.

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 No.1807004

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Hmm

 No.1807005

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>>1807004
Second guy has a beard.

 No.1807012

>>1807004
IIRC it's a 8k large auditorium, and I don't think it's unlikely that there are 4 guys with the sameish fashion sense. Everyone wears jeans on the photos, except for women

>>1807005
And he wears a jacket (what's it called) of a similar color, not a sweater

 No.1807014

>>1806987
Anon, a head of state is normally the supreme commander of a country's armed forces. Previous military service or lack thereof is generally irrelevant.

 No.1807017

>>1807004
>schizos discover how the average middle-aged slavic male dresses

 No.1807018

>>1807017
Only a terrorist or some kind of psychopath would go outside with a haircut like that

 No.1807024

>>1807018
His wife worked really hard on it and his kid sitting next to him thinks it looks cool too.

 No.1807032

>>1806356
Any confirmation Prilepin lost his genitals in the accident?
Also did Tatarsky encourage rape?

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 No.1807041

Critical support of bombing nazi civilians.

 No.1807042

>>1807004
What a pathetic cretin you are. You’d probably start crying if someone said Israel did 9/11 too

 No.1807064

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https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/russian-military-objectives-and-capacity-ukraine-through-2024

>Defeating Russia's attempt to subjugate Ukraine must be based upon an understanding of what Russia is trying to achieve, how it is intending to achieve its objectives, and its capacity to implement this plan. The Russian theory of victory has been through various iterations over the course of the war, but Moscow now has a clear plan for how it intends to proceed. This article seeks to outline Russia's intent in order to provide a basis for planning how its plan can be disrupted. Outlining Russian intent and capacity does not represent an assessment as to the likelihood of it succeeding.


<Russian Strategic Objectives


>Russia still maintains the strategic objective of bringing about the subjugation of Ukraine. It now believes that it is winning. Surrender terms currently being proposed by Russian intermediaries include Ukraine ceding the territory already under Russian control along with Kharkiv, and in some versions Odessa; agreeing not to join NATO; and maintaining a head of state approved by Russia. The only significant concession Russia proposes is that what is left of Ukraine can join the EU.


>The process by which Russia aims to bring about this outcome is in three stages. The first requires the continuation of pressure along the length of the Ukrainian front to drain the Armed Forces of Ukraine's (AFU) munitions and reserves of personnel. Parallel to this effort, the Russian Special Services are tasked with breaking the resolve of Ukraine's international partners to continue to provide military aid. Once military aid has been significantly limited such that Ukrainian munition stocks become depleted, Russia intends to initiate further offensive operations to make significant – if slow – gains on the battlefield. These gains are then intended to be used as leverage against Kyiv to force capitulation on Russian terms. The planning horizon for the implementation of these objectives, which is providing the baseline for Russian force generation and industrial outputs, is that victory should be achieved by 2026.


>It is vital to appreciate that Russian goals may expand with success, and given that the Kremlin has violated almost all significant agreements both with Ukraine and NATO, there is no assurance that even if Russia got what it wanted out of negotiations it would not subsequently endeavour to physically occupy the rest of Ukraine or be emboldened to use force elsewhere.


<Russian Military Capacity


>The Russian military began 2023 with a highly disorganised force in Ukraine comprising approximately 360,000 troops. By the beginning of the Ukrainian offensive in June 2023, this had risen to 410,000 troops and was becoming more organised. Over the summer of 2023, Russia established training regiments along the border and in the occupied territories and, following the mutiny of Wagner forces, endeavoured to standardise its units, breaking down the previous trend towards private armies. By the beginning of 2024, the Russian Operational Group of Forces in the occupied territories comprised 470,000 troops.


>Russian forces have reverted above battalion level to the traditional Soviet order of battle of regiments, divisions and combined arms armies, but have been significantly altered below the level of the regiment. Battalions are organised as line and storm battalions, and tend to operate in company groups which fight in small, dispersed detachments. This reflects not only adaptation to battlefield conditions, but also the shortage of trained officers able to coordinate larger formations, with a significant proportion of Russian junior officers currently being promoted from the ranks and receiving condensed officer training, sometimes as short as two months long.


>The Russian Group of Forces continues to take significant casualties, but is nevertheless growing in size. Operating at greater scale allows the Russian military to take measures that guarantee the integrity of the front line. Units can generally be rotated out of the line once they have taken up to 30% casualties – the point at which they are judged to be ineffective – and are then regenerated. While no large-scale offensive is currently taking place, Russian units are tasked with conducting smaller tactical attacks that at minimum inflict steady losses on Ukraine and allow Russian forces to seize and hold positions. In this way, the Russians are maintaining a consistent pressure on a number of points. Although the Russian military’s aspiration to increase in size to 1.5 million personnel has not been realised, recruiters are currently achieving almost 85% of their assigned targets for contracting troops to fight in Ukraine. The Kremlin therefore believes that it can sustain the current rate of attrition through 2025.


>In terms of combat equipment, the Russian Group of Forces holds approximately 4,780 barrel artillery pieces, of which 20% are self-propelled; 1,130 MLRS; 2,060 tanks; and 7,080 other armoured fighting vehicles, primarily consisting of MT-LBs, BMPs and BTRs. These continue to be supported by 290 helicopters, of which 110 are attack helicopters, and 310 fast jets. These equipment sets are limited in how they can be employed by ammunition shortages, especially for key natures like 220 mm multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS) and fluctuating availability of 152mm ammunition. Some sets, like fast air, are constrained by the availability of pilots with sufficient experience to carry out key missions. Russian air crew losses – including operators in the Il-20 Coot and A-50U Mainstay, shot down – amount to 159 personnel, which given the unevenness of flight hours in Russian squadrons amounts to a serious loss of capability. Nevertheless, the Russian Aerospace Forces (VKS) can continue to mount a significant sortie rate and deliver stand-off munitions. The overall assessment is that while Russian force quality is unlikely to increase so long as the AFU can maintain a significant level of attrition across the force, the Russians will be able to maintain a steady tempo of attacks throughout 2024.


<Russian Industrial Capacity


>In terms of Russian industry's capacity to support ongoing operations, Russia has significantly mobilised its defence industry, increasing shifts and expanding production lines at existing facilities as well as bringing previously mothballed plants back online. This has led to significant increases in production output. For example, Russia is delivering approximately 1,500 tanks to its forces per year along with approximately 3,000 armoured fighting vehicles of various types. Russian missile production has similarly increased. At the beginning of 2023, for instance, Russian production of Iskandr 9M723 ballistic missiles was six per month, with available missile stocks of 50 munitions. By the beginning of 2024, not only had Russia used a significant number of these missiles each month since the summer of 2023, but it had increased its stockpile to nearly 200 Iskandr 9M723 ballistic and 9M727 cruise missiles. A similar picture can be observed across other core missile types like the Kh-101.


>Despite these achievements, Russia faces significant limitations in the longevity and reliability of its industrial output. Of the tanks and other armoured fighting vehicles, for example, approximately 80% are not new production but are instead refurbished and modernised from Russian war stocks. The number of systems held in storage means that while Russia can maintain a consistent output through 2024, it will begin to find that vehicles require deeper refurbishment through 2025, and by 2026 it will have exhausted most of the available stocks. As the number of refurbished vehicles goes down, industrial capacity can go into making new platforms, but this will necessarily mean a significant decrease in vehicles delivered to the military.


>Another vulnerability for Russia's complex weapons like missiles is the extensive dependence on Western-sourced components. Although Russia has maintained a steady supply of the necessary components owing to the incoherent and lackadaisical approach to sanctions adopted by Western states, a more coherent approach to countering the Russian defence industry could disrupt supply lines. Even with the existing flawed approach, the cost of components has risen by 30% for the Russian defence sector, and it has only managed to stabilise supplies rather than expand them, despite extra investment in this line of effort.


>Perhaps the most serious limitation for Russia, however, is ammunition manufacture. In order to achieve its aspiration to make significant territorial gains in 2025, the Russian Ministry of Defence (MoD) has assessed an industrial requirement to manufacture or source approximately 4 million 152mm and 1.6 million 122mm artillery shells in 2024. Russian industry has reported to the MoD that it expects to increase 152mm production from around 1 million rounds in 2023 to 1.3 million rounds over the course of 2024, and to only produce 800,000 122mm rounds over the same period. Moreover, the Russian MoD does not believe it can significantly raise production in subsequent years, unless new factories are set up and raw material extraction is invested in with a lead time beyond five years.


>This means that to properly resource the armed forces, Russia must – in the short term – further draw down its remaining 3 million rounds of stored ammunition, though much of this is in poor condition. To further compensate for shortages, Russia has signed supply and production contracts with Belarus, Iran, North Korea and Syria, with the latter only able to provide forged shell casings rather than complete shells. Although the injection of around 2 million 122mm rounds from North Korea will help Russia in 2024, it will not compensate for a significant shortfall in available 152mm munitions in 2025. Russian overall artillery production is likely to plateau at 3 million rounds per year of all natures – including MLRS, which is not considered above.


<Conclusions


>The Russian theory of victory is plausible if Ukraine's international partners fail to properly resource the AFU. However, if Ukraine's partners continue to provide sufficient ammunition and training support to the AFU to enable the blunting of Russian attacks in 2024, then Russia is unlikely to achieve significant gains in 2025. If Russia lacks the prospect of gains in 2025, given its inability to improve force quality for offensive operations, then it follows that it will struggle to force Kyiv to capitulate by 2026. Beyond 2026, attrition of systems will begin to materially degrade Russian combat power, while Russian industry could be disrupted sufficiently by that point, making Russia's prospects decline over time. The latter would require Ukraine's partners to demonstrate a semblance of competence in their measures aimed at countering Russian defence mobilisation, which remains eminently possible in spite of their performance to date.


>Adopting an approach that aims to ensure Ukraine's resistance through 2025 not only undermines the Kremlin's theory of victory but also provides sufficient time to establish a rational mobilisation and training process for the AFU such that it can begin to qualitatively outmatch Russian forces, even if the latter continue to increase in overall size. This is critical to building opportunities to continue to threaten Russia's position and thereby force Russia not just to seek negotiations, but to actually negotiate an end to the war on terms favourable to Ukraine. Now is not the time to comply with the Kremlin's understanding of the war's trajectory.

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 No.1807144

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hmmmmm

 No.1807147

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depolackization phase yet?

 No.1807153

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>>1807144
>Boeing

 No.1807155

>>1807147
more like pol-ACK

 No.1807184

why is that Russians never invest into the well being of the populace? it's always wars and whatever while they sit on the most valuable country on Earth?

 No.1807192

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>>1807184
you have obviously never seen their supermarkets or train stations

 No.1807196

>>1806751
>its not even done in secret
thats because torture is terrorism. it doesn't work if it is secret. the intended effect is not to gain information but to intimidate. guantanamo is about terrorizing the public, forced disappearance isn't about getting rid of the individual its about traumatizing their friends and family etc

 No.1807222

Lads, I hate NATOuyghurs

 No.1807223

>>1807192
And they have great pizza places

 No.1807229

>>1807223
And they have great ballet places

 No.1807243

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jew vs armenian in ultimate battle of who can be the most annoying

 No.1807248

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>>1807144
>"part of the reason for US hasty withdrawal from Afghanistan was to remove US targets from the country in the hope that many of the Jihadis residing there would start to target regions of Russia in central Asia or Russian partners in central Asia"
The Farm, parapolitical podcast 24.03
idk anons. this is just random shizo shit tbh

 No.1807251

>>1806206
Looking at your posts is like watching a guy trip on his shoelaces, get up, then trip again. With all honesty, thank you for the laughs.

 No.1807256

>>1807248
>many of the Jihadis residing there would start to target regions of Russia in central Asia or Russian partners in central Asia"
That's exactly what happened in the 90s with the withdrawal of the Red army/collapse of the Afghan socialist government: CIA-funded terrorists doing incursions into China, Tajikistan, Pakistan, Chechnya, North Africa, etc.

 No.1807263

>>1807248
It sounds plausible at least. I always figured it was just to cut down on ammunition expenditures before the Russians invaded.

 No.1807293

>>1807256
China supported the mujahedin though

 No.1807295

>>1807293
Chinese foreign policy has been majorly retarded until like a couple years ago

 No.1807296

>>1807293
Yes, they experienced their own blowback with the mujahideen they were training alongside the CIA in Xinjiang

 No.1807297

>>1807293
They did not, they supported present day Taliban

 No.1807299



America’s political, national security, and foreign policy elites continue to ignore the basics of geopolitics that have shaped the fate of world empires for the past 500 years. Consequently, they have missed the significance of the rapid global changes in Eurasia that are in the process of undermining the grand strategy for world dominion that Washington has pursued these past seven decades…

with more allies, ships, fighters, missiles, money, patents, and blockbuster movies than any other power, Washington wins hands down…

Among the most “courageous” of them, Kissinger insists, was that leader of “courage, dignity, and conviction,” George W. Bush, whose resolute bid for the “transformation of Iraq from among the Middle East’s most repressive states to a multiparty democracy” would have succeeded, had it not been for the “ruthless” subversion of his work by Syria and Iran. In such a view, geopolitics has no place; only the bold vision of “statesmen” and kings really matters…

And perhaps that’s a comforting perspective in Washington at a moment when America’s hegemony is visibly crumbling amid a tectonic shift in global power…

Britain also secured control over Arabia and Mesopotamia, strategic terrain that Mackinder had termed “the passage-land from Europe to the Indies” and the gateway to the world island’s “heartland.”…

Having seized the axial ends of the world island from Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan in 1945, for the next 70 years the United States relied on ever-thickening layers of military power to contain China and Russia inside that Eurasian heartland. Stripped of its ideological foliage, Washington’s grand strategy of Cold War-era anticommunist “containment” was little more than a process of imperial succession. A hollowed-out Britain was replaced astride the maritime “marginal,” but the strategic realities remained essentially the same…

As the fulcrum for Washington’s strategic perimeter around the world island, the Persian Gulf region has for nearly 40 years been the site of constant American intervention, overt and covert. The 1979 revolution in Iran meant the loss of a keystone country in the arch of U.S. power around the Gulf and left Washington struggling to rebuild its presence in the region…

In 2003, when the U.S. invaded Iraq, imperial historian Paul Kennedy returned to Mackinder’s century-old treatise to explain this seemingly inexplicable misadventure. “Right now, with hundreds of thousands of U.S. troops in the Eurasian rimlands,” Kennedy wrote in the Guardian, “it looks as if Washington is taking seriously Mackinder’s injunction to ensure control of ‘the geographical pivot of history.’” …

Washington’s moves, in other words, represent something old, even if on a previously unimaginable scale. But the rise of China as the world’s largest economy, inconceivable a century ago, represents something new and so threatens to overturn the maritime geopolitics that have shaped world power for the past 400 years. Instead of focusing purely on building a blue-water navy like the British or a global aerospace armada akin to America’s, China is reaching deep within the world island in an attempt to thoroughly reshape the geopolitical fundamentals of global power. It is using a subtle strategy that has so far eluded Washington’s power elites.

After decades of quiet preparation, Beijing has recently begun revealing its grand strategy for global power, move by careful move. Its two-step plan is designed to build a transcontinental infrastructure for the economic integration of the world island from within, while mobilizing military forces to surgically slice through Washington’s encircling containment.

The initial step has involved a breathtaking project to put in place an infrastructure for the continent’s economic integration. By laying down an elaborate and enormously expensive network of high-speed, high-volume railroads as well as oil and natural gas pipelines across the vast breadth of Eurasia, China may realize Mackinder’s vision in a new way. For the first time in history, the rapid transcontinental movement of critical cargo — oil, minerals, and manufactured goods — will be possible on a massive scale, thereby potentially unifying that vast landmass into a single economic zone stretching 6,500 miles from Shanghai to Madrid. In this way, the leadership in Beijing hopes to shift the locus of geopolitical power away from the maritime periphery and deep into the continent’s heartland…

In a decade or two, should the need arise, China will be ready to surgically slice through Washington’s continental encirclement at a few strategic points without having to confront the full global might of the U.S. military, potentially rendering the vast American armada of carriers, cruisers, drones, fighters, and submarines redundant…

https://tomdispatch.com/alfred-mccoy-washington-s-great-game-and-why-it-s-failing/

 No.1807312

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Ear check time

 No.1807314

>>1807312
nah brah
>inb4 lib idealist

 No.1807320

I had it write a song for /ukraine/ before it got too cucked

 No.1807321

https://www.vice.com/en/article/dy7aqw/isis-anti-china-war-afghanistan

So IS-Khorosan is not only waging war against Iran, Russia and Taliban-controlled Afghanistan; but also now China.

Never Israel. Never USA.

IS-Kmart more like it.

 No.1807322

>>1807321
What a crazy random happen-stance.

 No.1807328

>>1807321
Didn't you know? Muslims hate each other! That's why ISIS would target muslim-majority countries instead of Israel that's genociding muslims

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 No.1807363

>>1806931
thx bro, love the war nerd. With exceptions 2 years past

 No.1807364

People, who still believe ISIS did it as opposed to the US, Cuckraine and Isreal, should be shot for spreading CIA propaganda!

 No.1807365

>>1807364
I believe ISIS-K is either indirectly or directly controlled by CIA.

 No.1807367

>>1807364
its not even ISIS, its ISIS-K, whicha re as far I got it more aligned with Al Queda (glow glow glow) that OG Daesh

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>>1807365
>>1807367
>ISIS-K
Same thing, resulting in the same execution.

 No.1807404

>>1807297
potato, potato

 No.1807413

>>1807364
>The Islamist pole of the CIA did it!
>No, it was the Banderite pole of the CIA who did it!
Same thing, really.

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 No.1807420

>>1807419
we need an image of zelensky with the captions file never existed

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Oh god please no

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 No.1807482

>>1807480
lol that reminds me of american economists complaining about chinas unfair state backed practices

 No.1807508

>>1807480
>Putin won the game by simply not playing by its rules

 No.1807520

File: 1711552563692.mp4 (Spoiler Image, 55.48 MB, 1920x1080, Moscow Massacre Terrorist ….mp4)

All those Moscow shooters were obviously Jihadists

 No.1807521

>>1807468
Ghost of Wagner
Ghost of Moscow

 No.1807523

>>1807520
>It's ISIS-Kek, please believe meeeeee!!1!1!!1
Mods, ban CIA raiders

 No.1807524

>>1807404
Pretty sure the Taliban had majority support during their civil war against the Mujahideen simply because of how brutal the Mujahideen were to the Afghan people.

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 No.1807531

>>1807524
>>1807404
little more complicated, a lot of taliban leadership did come out of the mujahideen but also yes its true that the majority of the mujahideen became extremely brutal warlords that tore the country apart and terrorized the population, so the fact that the talibans taxes/drug money actually going to feed people and arm their fighters instead of instantly getting siphoned to leaders accounts both endeared them more to the population and gave them an edge in their war effort. they were sincere islamist fundamentalists fighting warlords who used a veneer of islamism

 No.1807539

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>>1807523
They released the footage retard. I am just posting it here -l

 No.1807541

>>1807539
>They released the footage
The CIA, I know. Shove that doctored editing up your anus and kys

 No.1807544

>>1807539
>They released the footage retard.
<Only stereotypical Langley operators can be foreign intelligence assets

 No.1807545

>>1807531
>talibans taxes/drug money

U w0t m8

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 No.1807550

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Sunak and Biden should have been switched places

 No.1807555

>>1807523
>wikipedia editor meetup

 No.1807583

https://www.thejakartapost.com/world/2024/03/26/kremlin-calls-zelensky-peculiar-kind-of-jew-over-is-attack-claim.html

>The Kremlin on Tuesday called Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky a "peculiar kind of Jew", when asked how he could be linked to an attack in Moscow claimed by Islamic jihadists.


>Russian officials continue to allege Kyiv was somehow involved in Friday's attack on a Moscow concert hall that killed at least 139 people, an assertion Zelensky has denounced as absurd.


>"Well, there is a peculiar kind of Jew over there," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said in response to a question about how Zelensky, who is Jewish, may be linked to the attack.


>"A Jew who in many ways shows sympathy and inclination to the nationalist spirit that has permeated the leadership of the Kyiv regime," he continued

 No.1807588

>>1807583
is he wrong?

 No.1807596

>>1807545
im talking about the warlord period in the 90s.

 No.1807598

>>1807583
>>1807588
This article omits that he was specifically asked "how can Ukraine work with Islamic militants when Zelensky is Jewish?"

 No.1807600

>>1807596
It was relatively the same for back then, too. Taliban banned opium, and "mujahideen" warred against Taliban for the ability to grow opium

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 No.1807650

>>1807648
what is this

 No.1807651

>>1807650
FSB meet up

 No.1807658

>>1807651
why they dress like that

 No.1807661

>>1807648
I see they drink coca cola to better know their enemy, hmm, yes, very wise

 No.1807668

>>1807545
Well it was a bit more complicated than that. Taliban judges turned the other way on opium cultivation during the insurgency period since they wanted to alienating these farmers who literally relied on the opium trade as their livelihood and only cracked down after the state is secure.
And this fundamentally is because Afghanistan and Central Asia is fundamentally a very impoverished part of the world after the collapse of the inland Eurasian trade network. Even as far back the 18th century you have accounts of Raj colonial officers talking about how Afghans played a key role in smuggling and shit. These people aren't necessarily bad people just because they grow very harmful substances like opium or participate in international smuggling rings; most of the time they are just lumpenized elements trying to get by in a fundamentally unjust world system. Blaming them for trying to grow opium is like blaming impoverished Mexican or Guatemalan farmers joining cartels because the alternative is to starve to death. This is why many warlord factions in Afghanistan, even Islamists avoided talking about the opium crisis; it provided livelihood for a huge amount of people. And now that the Taliban banned it many are working for the various smuggling corridors between Afghanistan and Pakistan instead, which explained all the recent border clashes.

 No.1807671

>>1807668
I'm not trying to justify the drug trade btw, i'm simply pointing out that these things are much more complicated than a good vs evil dichotomy.

 No.1807717

https://gilbertdoctorow.com/2024/03/27/yesterdays-remarkable-statements-to-journalists-by-alexander-bortnikov-director-of-russias-federal-security-service-fsb/

>To the uninitiated, I explain first that the FSB is the successor organization to the Soviet Union’s well-known and much feared KGB. However, the FSB today might be better compared with the FBI in the United States. It deals with domestic criminality of all kinds and with threats to Russian civilians such as terrorism. The agency and its head are rarely in the news.


>In this respect, the FSB is less visible both at home and abroad than the Foreign Intelligence Service headed by Sergei Naryshkin, a state figure who spent five years of this millennium as chairman of the State Duma, Russia’s lower house of the legislature, and also three years as head of the Presidential Administration. In both positions Naryshkin was very often seen on television performing his duties.


>By contrast, Bortnikov spent the past 15 years in his FSB offices out of sight. However, the spectacular attack on the Crocus City Hall concert venue has propelled him to center stage and yesterday he met with the Russian state television journalist Pavel Zarubin for an interview and then allowed himself to be questioned further by a gaggle of other journalists on his way out along a corridor. This spontaneous Q&A was later broadcast on the television news. What Bortnikov had to say was extraordinary and bears directly on whether you and I should now be looking for bomb shelters. Regrettably you will not find any of it in the lead stories of today’s mainstream media. The Financial Times, for example, features an account of Xi’s meeting with CEOs of American businesses to mend ties: interesting, but not very relevant if we are at the cusp of WWIII.


*

>Bortnikov is by definition a member of Vladimir Putin’s inner circle of advisors. He, Putin and Naryshkin are all roughly the same age. At 72, Bortnikov is just several years older.


>I was struck in particular by his poise and prudent, carefully weighed choice of words while setting out where the investigation is heading with transparency and a ‘let the chips fall where they may’ unaffected demeanor.


>The journalists were all probing the question of who stood behind the terror attack. Bortnikov told them…and us: standing behind the terror act committed by Islamist extremists are the United States, Great Britain and Ukraine.


>Bortnikov said that the preliminary findings indicate that the four perpetrators of the slaughter were headed by car to the border with Ukraine where they were awaited on the other side. He very calmly explained that the involvement of foreign powers is being clarified and that he will say nothing out of pure emotion now but will wait for the facts to be solidly collected before being presented.


>Nonetheless, it was entirely newsworthy that he named the United States, Great Britain and Ukraine as the likely puppet masters of the terror act. Let us remember that following the bombing of the Nord Stream pipelines, the most significant attack on critical civilian infrastructure globally in the last 50 years, Russian officials did not point the finger directly at any country. There was innuendo but no direct accusations such as we heard from Bortnikov yesterday.


****

>Meanwhile, quite apart from Mr. Bortnikov’s chat with journalists, a lot of new elements to the terror attack at Crocus City Hall were posted yesterday on the Russian state television news and analysis program Sixty Minutes. In particular, we learned that in the last days of February and first couple of days of March two of the four attackers were in Istanbul. The departure and arrival of one at a Moscow airport was recorded on video. We were told which hotels they stayed in, and the selfies and other photos taken by one in Istanbul were put up on the screen. It is still not clear with whom they met in Turkey. However, the timing itself is very important, because the point was made that they returned to Moscow to carry out a terror attack on 8 March, International Women’s Day, a sacred date on the Russian calendar. Had they done so on that day, the effect would have been catastrophic for the presidential elections in Russia one week later.


>However, per Sixty Minutes, it was determined that Russian state security on 8 March was too tight for the terrorist mission to succeed and the United States decided to pull the plug on that operation. Note that this is approximately the time when Victoria Nuland tendered her resignation at the State Department (5 March). The possible causal link here surely deserves attention by my peers in the U.S. ‘dissident’ community.


>In any case, the scenario which was explored later in the day on the Evening with Vladimir Solovyov talk show is that the Ukrainians decided to proceed with the terror attack a week after the Russian presidential elections, when it lost most of its rationale. They did so over the objections of Washington.


*

>From time to time, readers ask why I pay attention to talk shows like Vladimir Solovyov’s. These skeptics tend to ignore that Solovyov invites not just the usual irresponsible academics and journalists who can amuse the public but also some very serious statesmen who are close to the center of power in Russia and exert influence on the conduct of foreign and domestic policy, including in particular committee chairmen and other key personalities from the State Duma.


>So it was last night when we heard from a member of the Committee on Relations with the Commonwealth of Independent States (Former Soviet Union). With reference to the never ending terror attacks on civilians in the Russian border region of Belgorod coming from nearby Kharkiv (Ukraine), he said it is time to raze Kharkov to the ground: issue a warning to the population to get in their cars and head West, then blow it all to bits. Kharkiv is, by the way, Ukraine’s second most populous city after Kiev.


>In general, the mood of panelists and of the host Solovyov himself is now changing in a cardinal manner: Ukraine is seen as an enemy state and the sooner it is finished off the better. There was talk last night on the need for missile strikes to flatten the presidential palace in Kiev along with all military and other decision making government centers in the capital.


>As we have observed repeatedly over the past two years. President Putin has been a voice for moderation and restraint, resisting actions that might precipitate WWIII. That is clearly coming to an end when his own FSB director names the United States and the UK as planners of the biggest terror attack in Russia in 20 years.

 No.1807722

https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/west-desperately-deflects-as-ukraines

>In this case, it was absolutely paramount that Ukraine had to utilize the services of a third party—so they hired some patsies through an intermediary with a convenient ‘ISIS’ link. But the timing is too ludicrous to believe—it’s akin to the CIA’s ‘best hits’, like the farfetched gas attack Assad carried out just when he had broken the enemy’s back and was winning the war. It’s utterly unbelievable that just as Russia had dealt some unprecedented blows to Ukraine, including a massively crippling air attack, and just as MSM outlets were sputtering out reams of devastating headlines about Ukraine’s impending collapse, ISIS just happens to decide to make a totally uncharacteristic attack in Moscow? You have to be infantilely credulous to believe such improbable coincidences.

 No.1807735

>>1807668
>>1807671
exactly, i thought that would have been implied by my original post saying they were sincere islamist fundamentalists who used profits from opium/taxes from opium for their cause, unlike the US backed warlords which in the 90s through to now use it purely for carving out their own fiefdoms. FARC & the remnants of Sendero Luminoso tried something similar as communists but for various reasons failed and in many cases just became cartels with political origins. come to think of it the Black Guerilla Family in the US is another example of a political movement trying to fund its operations via the drug trade.

 No.1807800

>>1807722
Not to mention it's election time in russia

 No.1807809

>>1807722
Just feed more body parts to the suspects until they admit working for Zelensky

 No.1807823

>>1806938
>why didn't they beef up security
Doesn't that entail either permanently increasing security or else they'll just wait until the perceived danger and heightened security restrictions pass? Not to say they just shouldn't have done anything though.

 No.1807825

>>1807800
I thought the elections were already over

 No.1807826

>>1807299
Good post

 No.1807829

>>1807825
The US gave warning of the attack earlier in March before the elections

 No.1807842

>>1807651
More chill that my meetings at work, I envy them.

 No.1807846

Not directly related to recent events, but here's an in depth article on American involvement with isis in Syria.

https://mronline.org/2022/04/23/al-qaeda-is-on-our-side/

 No.1807848

if i buy a russian made product, am i actively participating in the genocide of the ukrainians? if yes what should i spen money on?

 No.1807849

>>1807829
The lead up or during the elections really seems like a better time for this kind of thing.

 No.1807850

>>1807848
Buy Soviet memorabilia and @nafoid posters with you posing with it

 No.1807853

>>1807829
>>1807849
there's a video of one of the attackers at the place on March 7, which is when the warning was about. There was apparently a Shaman concert (popular "patriotic" singer) around that time. So the attacker was either just casing the place for the later attack, or they intended to do the attack around earlier during the Shaman concert, but there was too much security so they postponed and did it a couple weeks later. the original plan may have been to do it before the election.

 No.1807857

>>1807848
People say they have good chocolate and shit idk. Buy some cool shit like that. It's always fun to order shit from other countries and post it in the group chats and shit

 No.1807861


 No.1807867

>>1807861
doesn't steam take like 50% of any purchase you make and the rest goes to the game developers?

 No.1807868


 No.1807870

>>1807867
30%, unless negotiated down.

 No.1807872

File: 1711581626015.jpg (48.79 KB, 415x392, 1501367680666.jpg)

>>1807861
Do you grasp that feeling? That disgust and condescension? This is how I feel towards every trade war/boycott advocate. Every single one of them is just as much of a fucking loser.

 No.1807874

>>1807870
It would really make me puke to have to give that much of my earnings to steam.

 No.1807879

>>1807874
If you're indie, people will always just pirate.

 No.1807881

>>1807879
I mean obviously some people buy indie, otherwise they wouldn't exist.

 No.1807882

>>1807881
>concrete doesn't inhibit plant growth
>look, some are growing through the cracks

 No.1807883

>>1807882
I don't even know what you're arguing

 No.1807884

You can pirate almost every game, but i am always surprised that the vast majority of people fear or don't know how to do it

 No.1807886

>>1807883
Of course, you don't. Nor do you know the indie situation before and after Steam.

 No.1807893

>>1807884
does it count as piracy if you shoplift a DVD from gamestop?

 No.1807894

>>1807893
ahh, old /v/ bait

How nostalgic.

 No.1807895

>>1807893
How? The boxes are empty

 No.1807905

Piracy is when you board ships and take cargo. Video games are transferred through the internet, you can't pirate them.

 No.1807906

Some people really do just believe whatever stupid shit nato tells them to believe huh.

I dunno, I think you have to be a real, actual fucking retard to believe anything the US says.

 No.1807909

>>1807906
It's not a matter of intelligence, as it is need. People really enjoy thinking their world view is correct.

 No.1807911

>>1807909
It's so tiresome. I hope they all die.

 No.1807912

File: 1711584625235.jpg (119.46 KB, 498x648, 1711485278086104.jpg)

>>1807906
They just openly don't care about truth. It's been a recurring theme in Ukrainian and western media. This conflict started with ghost of Kyiv, remember?

 No.1807919

>>1807912
>They just openly don't care about truth
They're really not. Anything I share that isn't critical of or sufficiently mean to Russia is discarded out of hand, but then they share slop from Ukraine Pravda or Ukraine Independent or some other fucking glowjob. Just brain broken scum that have to have their thoughts fed to them by American media.

 No.1807940

>>1807906
It's the land of the ponzi scheme. Almost all industry in these western NATO countries is some sort of financial fraud scheme kek.

 No.1807943

>>1807940
Idk about agriculture production in the west, but i might check if the production is falling, wich doesn't really matter, almost all food produced is descarted because muh capitalism and consumism anyway

 No.1807946

>>1807943
>TECHNOLOGY

Investing

Commodities

Company News
Jan 31, 2024

Russian Manufacturing Booms With Economy on War Footing
Bloomberg News, Bloomberg News


, Source: Federal Statistics Service

(Bloomberg) – Russian industry expanded for the third straight year in 2023 as the government’s spending on its prolonged war on Ukraine helped counter the impact of sanctions imposed by the US and its allies.

Industrial production increased by 3.5% last year after 0.6% growth in 2022, according to data published Wednesday by the Federal Statistics Service. The rise in manufacturing among industries benefiting from military orders last year more than offset a slump in mining output, data show.

The figures show businesses have adapted to “the current external economic conditions,” the Economy Ministry said in a statement late Wednesday.

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/russian-manufacturing-booms-with-economy-on-war-footing-1.2029130

 No.1807947

>>1807946
Sorry, the last post that was made was actually by me, the fed, forgot to turn the flag back on

 No.1807948

>>1807940
Wow it's crazy how a socialist powerhouse like Russia is struggling against a totally deindustrialized wasteland, maybe an another airstrike on an ukrainian electric transformer will topple the whole rotten house

 No.1807950

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2024/03/the-evidence-on-the-crocus-gang-attack-in-moscow.html

>Scott Ritter, who actually knows a bit about ISIS and ISIS-K from his days in the Middle East, adds some key factoids (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNMEG4-n-yQ):


>1. ISIS-K tried taking credit for the killings at Iran’s General Solemani’s 20 year memorial. Iran came out immediately and said it had eradicated ISIS-K and the only “ISIS-K” left was mercenaries working for the West (see at 40:35).


>2. He explains starting at 32:30 the procedure for taking credit for an action in the name of the Islamic State even if no one in the Islamic State apparatus worked with you. All it takes is videoing yourself in front of the Islamic State flag and pledging allegiance, um, featly, um, the Islamic Creed, using their special hand gesture.


>There’s lot more in the way of good tidbits, like how security warnings are normally passed to other countries.

 No.1807953

>>1807948
Im sincere in my curiosity here, are they really struggling or are they waging a war of attrition against Ukraine (+Nato)

 No.1807955

>>1807948
can you show us on the map where ukraine manufactures their war material?

 No.1807957

>>1807953
They're waging a war of attrition that they are winning.

 No.1807959

>>1807955
No and not in the whole west either since apparently they have no more industry
>>1807957
Just two more years

 No.1807960

>>1807959
copetard

 No.1807962

>>1807953
Everything is going according to the plan, you know the plan where the pesky anglo backstab you so you loose a chunk of the territory, where you loose your flagship and a bunch of your fleet, where you have to recruit prisoners for the meat grinder and where your paramilitary company turns on you and threatens to march on your capital so you have to assassinate its leader, where the front is moving at a snail pace in the third year of a war everyone expected you to win in weeks or months and where your enemy is doing terror attacks killing hundreds in your capital. You just have to trust the plan, criticism is cope.

 No.1807963


 No.1807969

File: 1711589492361.jpg (25.13 KB, 413x395, 1710938481843371.jpg)

>>1807962
thanks for the selective walk down memory lane. now back to the present where NATO is losing and Ukraine is running out of men and AD and won't exist much longer.

 No.1807970

>>1807969
What will happen after Putin wins the war?

 No.1807972

>>1807962
It still baffles me that the Ukrainian state institutions are permitted to function. Maybe avoid kalibrating the historic buildings, but I assume there is like, what? 200-500 people max, VIPs for the state to function? Getting them or making their lives very inconvenient,unprofitable would throw everything in disarray.

 No.1807974

>>1807969
does anyone have that webm of prigo and shoigu as bruce and alfred?

 No.1807975

>>1807946
When NATO goes to war to secure US hegemony after the fall of the USSR, the resulting profits are somehow "the peace dividend". But their rivals breath militarily and exist aggressively lel

 No.1807976

>>1807972
>Ukrainian state institutions
lil uygha those are located in washington

 No.1807980

File: 1711590970747.png (436.21 KB, 606x683, ClipboardImage.png)

breaking news: red rocket aid to ukraine confirmed by NATO

 No.1808008

File: 1711594265486.jpg (59.38 KB, 960x960, 1604109374017.jpg)

>>1807962
Snap back to reality.

 No.1808010

>>1807972
Stop watching Marvel and American sci-fi, people aren't that trackable.

 No.1808011

File: 1711594755640.gif (109.32 KB, 226x305, Stalin_Jamming.gif)

>>1808008
snap back to reality, oh there goes yaichki

 No.1808013

>>1807980
This dog fucking epidemic needs to stop.

 No.1808048

>>1807972
First, leaders of two nations deadlocked in a war generally won't go for a decapitation strike because then the taboo is broken and the other side will have no qualms to retaliate in kind if possible. Even more so if those are two bourgeois rulers of the same class like Zelensky and Putin.
Secondly while a decapitation strike can be useful in the beginning of the war to capitalize on the chaos sowed amongst the ranks of your enemy it's not as useful when both states are in a protracted state of war and took measures to diminish the effect of such strike, as the military can just take over what necessary tasks that were devolved to the assassinated civilian functionaries. And besides, it would even probably have the adverse effect of mobilizing the enemy's population further against you, reducing opportunities for future peace talks.
In short, the inconvenience caused would be somewhat tactically advantageous in the short term but potentially strategically and politically disastrous in the long run while costing a fair amount of missiles, weapons, and intelligence operatives that are sorely needed elsewhere.

 No.1808057

>>1808013
You cant stop nature.
Embrace the dogpill.
>How do you think we domesticated those red rockets in the first place?

 No.1808063

>>1808048
Zelensky alive seems more useful than him dead. He's unpopular and politically inept. He's also keeping the flow of bodies and weapons to the front lines going too.

 No.1808067

>>1808063
>He's also keeping the flow of bodies and weapons to the front lines going too.
hell yeah who doesn't like a forever war

 No.1808078

File: 1711611635809.mp4 (10.73 MB, 1280x944, 17093895700330.mp4)

>>1807962
I hope you're alright, glowie anon.

 No.1808084

>>1808067
Russia doesn't mind for the time being.

 No.1808085

Has neoliberalism been so bad that "communists" now prefer any other type of capitalism?

 No.1808096

>>1808085
Only ultras consider the world to be at one stage of capitalism

 No.1808113

>>1806300
I don't speak Russian but there is a Wikipedia article about this artist which I also haven't read but I could, so let me tell you this is fascism. I can tell by the slow motion. Take the percentage of slow-mo in the clip and double it, that is the fascism percentage. 200 % fascism. Hitler never watched Benny Hill.

 No.1808117

funnily enough liberals had a conspiracy theory that shaman's latest music video was secretly referring to navalny as a martyr

 No.1808127

>>1808113
He is not fascist. This Ukrainian communist says so

 No.1808153

>>1806299
If they did that I'd actually watch them and respect those fucking gaymers.

 No.1808204

A short video about Ukrainian drone operators.
>showing your unblurred face publicly doing this

 No.1808219

File: 1711639466774.png (101.54 KB, 1080x990, ClipboardImage.png)

>Oh no no. They are dooming again

 No.1808228

>>1808219
Scene in Gordon Ramsay's Michelin star Restaurant
>Chef, we've got a problem!
<What is it now, you donkey, you shit sandwich?
>Cedric dropped the chicken!
<Hey, you donkey, we need to talk about the Fall of Chyicken Kyiv!!

 No.1808242

>>1805846
Yes
Fence sitting is pro NATO

 No.1808253

>>1808243
I'd say you are a fence-leaner

 No.1808255

>>1808253
Cool, i like how that sounds!

 No.1808264

>>1805816
if you cant tell the difference between an occupying power rounding up and torturing people in the country theyre occupying, and the people who captured the perpetrators of a massive attack on their own country torturing those people in particular, you are entirely beyond reason

 No.1808268


 No.1808271

>>1808219
What parts do you think they're going to make zelensky eat when they catch him

 No.1808273

>>1808268
>goes medieval
Unpopular opinion here but Russia should waterboard, put them in sensory deprivation suits, tie to chairs fir days forcefeeding them food and laxatives and keep them in isolation for decades like a modern civolised nation.

 No.1808289

>>1808219
>edging

 No.1808293

>>1808271
zelensky will just flee like a coward, there is no way he will just stand there waiting for Kyiv to fall in a "no step back" defense like stalin did in moscow

 No.1808299

File: 1711645182565.mp4 (Spoiler Image, 2.39 MB, 656x848, zelensky flying in his pla….MP4)

>>1808293
>zelensky will just flee like a coward
this

 No.1808305

>>1808289
>Ukraine has been gooning for over two years, but will a hard thrust from Vladimir UwUtin finally make them cum?

 No.1808320

File: 1711647335131-0.png (143.42 KB, 700x758, image.png)

>>1808268
> TAKIJ

 No.1808322

File: 1711647396897.gif (2.47 MB, 200x200, 1586752028820.gif)


 No.1808326

>>1806258
Isn't 50% of this thread dedicated to discussing about literal slavic nazis? When you have that talking about gay nazi isn't even that perverse

 No.1808330

>>1808273
HANGIN'S TOO GOOD FOR IM. BURNIN'S TOO GOOD FOR IM. THEY OUGHTA BE RIPPED INTO IDDY BIDDY PIECES AND BURIED ALIIIIIIVE!

 No.1808340

>>1806145
>Neonazis fighting for both sides
Kinda reminds me of garden Salafi Jihadists fighting for both sides during the Libyan civil war. You have all these garden variety chauvinists with ideologies that are indistinguishable from each other, fighting on behalf of two rival cliques that at least on public tried to maintain some sort of secularist veneer to get cred with Western arm dealers.
There is literally nothing serious about these supposed ideological wars. The only things that is concrete is the suffering they inflicted on civilians and their role in the perpetuation of the most brutal aspect of Capitalism. Everything else is garbage bin of ideology.

 No.1808429

Can someone share that ear cutting video? Also the other FSB interarogations clips. I can't find any of them anymore.

 No.1808488

>>1808219
Can't copy and paste because the text spacing dies but this bit made me laugh:
>No one who is a supporter of Ukrainian self-determination against Russian barbarism wants this nightmare scenario to come true.

If it isn't explicit Garden Vs Jungle rhetoric it's implicit contrastives as though Ukraine were standing in defence of some unspoken evergreen ideal of national valor. 100 years and the rhetoric still hasn't changed; there is still a romanticisim of war in the undercurrent of these people's minds.

The reality literally couldn't be further from the truth. If you aren't playing up in your mind the lofty ideal that Ukranian soldiers are being sacrificed, you're some psycho who binges gore combat-footage on one of the countless subreddits for such things. Or you're even thicker, and are propagandizing like a marionette on social media for NATO.

There's absolutely no sane or rational perspective on the situation that isn't clear of some asinine political commentary; the indiviudals closest to the ground in this regard are those who must inevitably suffer the more powerful, the soldiers and troops themselves. The absolute duplicity of speakers who have hedged their bets on a Ukranian victory (for nothing more than the cynical political overtures of US global dominance) waxing lyrical about the loss such people are making is sickening.

The absolute height of this was the rhetoric the Ukranian defence minister made, trying to 'sell' the war as a 'business investment' to Europe for their own security; essentially being that the Ukranian government has a choke-hold on its civilians lives and will prostitute them out for the only currency that matters: cash.

The absolute gall someone must have to blithely comment on this conflict couched in such language is pathetic. The absolute ignorance to the most fundamental facts regarding the outbreak of this war, the sustained dehumanization of Russians, literally all of it is a charge waiting to be sentenced by history. Absolutely no one will remember this conflict favourably for the Europeans. Zelensky will be seen as a sell-out for Western interests and it will be read in textbooks as the failure of diplomacy on the side of the West to shed its decayed imperial hegemony.

The fall of NATO literally cannot come soon enough.

 No.1808491

>>1808488
Again, the absolute gall of this person. They are so blithe and presumptory that they reckon with themselves in their own analysis as to its meaninglessness with this:
> But we have a lazy habit in the comfortable West — away from Europe’s front line in east and south Ukraine — of wishful thinking and being unprepared for bad surprises

As though the fall of Ukraine was incidental to some spurious fucking wish. But then this is the sort of politics the Europeans have essentially been engaging with. It is an appeal to the reader's already clouded and backwards understanding as to the nature of how the conflict began. It is quite literally ideology at work.

 No.1808498

>>1808491
Last comment:

The absolute stupidity of this line:
> We need to think entirely differently about how dangerous the threats are, arm ourselves accordingly, prepare for the worst and at best hope to be pleasantly surprised.

As though Europe has no reproach to the situation and that it is already out of their collective governmental control. As though rearming is the only recourse available. This situation has been entirely begat by the failure of the Europeans to back the Minsk accords in the greater context of continental security strategy doctored by the US.

There is a resolution that will gain peace: pressing Zelensky to negotiate, like April of 2022. But will they see sense before it is too late?

 No.1808499

I am trying to use this links but they are not working for me. What should i do

 No.1808514

>>1806185
All guns should be banned immediately like in North Korea.

 No.1808546

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-state-tv-alaska-california-vladimir-solovyov-1884434

RUSSIAN LIBERATION OF ALASKKKA AND KKKOMMIEFAILNIA SOON COMRADES

 No.1808549

>>1808488
NATO will disband in two weeks because a non-member is failing at defeating a third world power with heavily outdated, demobilised equipment manufactured 30 years ago LOL outstanding levels of delusion, are u russian per chance

 No.1808563

>>1808549
Pole, Balt, or Ukrop? There are so many butthurt belt possibilities.

 No.1808564

>>1808546
Are westoids actually autistic and unable to recognize banter?

 No.1808568

>>1808564
It's just a headline for the headline readers. Maybe 10% of anyone that actually sees it is going to read it, and maybe 10% of that will actually bother to click through and watch the clip themselves.

 No.1808576

>>1808546
>california
hmm what
was california part of russia at one point?

 No.1808581

I hope russian bros come back. They were fun, even the nukes guy. Today was very boring without activity in the thred. They are smart, i am dumb.

 No.1808592

>>1808581
>They are smart
At least they are clever enough to not die like dogs in a trench for their bourgeois masters

 No.1808595

File: 1711668765381.png (255.1 KB, 1124x666, ClipboardImage.png)

this is ukraine

 No.1808633

>>1808576
pretty sure they had like one wooden fort for trade at some point lol

 No.1808639

File: 1711671624541.png (479.58 KB, 1440x1253, ClipboardImage.png)

really makes you think

 No.1808644

>>1808639
my retina is flaking from all the glow in this single paragraph

 No.1808665

>>1808639
A central asian terrorist group fighting a central asian anti terror operation doesn't really make me think

 No.1808675

>>1808639
Khorasan Islamic fundamentalists:
>Israel exists and/to make a bitch of Arab compradors, regularly genocidal towards muslims and always islamophobic,actual ongoing genocide of Palestinians
>Decades long western warmongering on your turf
>At least Millions of dead, tens of millions immiserated, justified through explicit homophobia
>Decades of occupation of your turf explicitly advocating against your religion, in favor of a secular government
>Decades of still continuing economic sabotage and explicit enmity towards you
I SLEEP
THE WESTERN MAN IS MY FRIEND

<Entirely hypothetical genocide, based on the propaganda of the above perpetrators, far away

<The perpetrator happens to be the one big power willing to waive the threats of the above and invest in your territory
REAL SHIT
DROP EVERYTHING WE FOUND THE REAL ENEMY OF ISLAM IN CHYNA

 No.1808676

>>1808675 (me)
autocorrect
homophobia->islamophobia

 No.1808691


 No.1808702

>>1808665
Yes you are very funny, have a (You)

 No.1808709

>>1808691
>the cia is all powerful and controls everything
howdy there, how's the weather in Langley?

 No.1808724

russian investigation is finding money transfers from the nazis to the freedom fighters

(2nd pic - i didn't realize how much twitter is censored to protect the minds of the elves in urop).

 No.1808726

>>1808724
it was Israel, but if cucktin is doing this to finally uncuck himself, I'm for it

 No.1808734


 No.1808758

File: 1711686761871.png (520.37 KB, 778x456, sleepingjoe.png)

>>1808734
no wonder they hate him so much, says wrong stuff out loud

 No.1808767

File: 1711688782238.jpg (31.42 KB, 570x656, FB_IMG_1711688738769.jpg)

Zisters??!?!??!?

 No.1808770


 No.1808775

File: 1711690539586.png (41.17 KB, 871x333, ClipboardImage.png)


>Ukraine’s ability to hold it off this time looks much less sure now


>That is why it urgently needs to mobilise more troops


>Busy with the Middle East, forthcoming elections and their own economic woes, Ukraine’s Western allies are distracted.


>Ukraine’s soldiers are being forced to ration their shells, while Russia outguns them in some places by five to one. More than 150 drones and missiles were launched against Ukraine on just one night last week, but Ukraine is running out of interceptors


>America’s deadlock risks letting Russia break through Ukraine’s inadequate defensive lines. And the Europeans are not doing much better, despite fighting talk from France’s president, Emmanuel Macron—who insists that Russia must be defeated but sends little in the way of hardware to help that happen—or Germany’s lacklustre chancellor, Olaf Scholz, who is refusing to supply powerful Taurus long-range missiles. Europe has failed to meet its target of getting 1m shells to Ukraine by this month


>Money is also a problem; Europe should be helping with that, too. But Poland and France, among others, are trying to block Ukraine’s vital agricultural exports


>Ukraine cannot simply blame its allies. It is guilty of mistakes too. One has been its failure on manpower.


>Ukraine attempts to raise fresh recruits are still stuck in the coils of the democratic process; more than 1,000 amendments have reportedly been tabled to a bill in Parliament that would give the government more scope to raise the army it needs. Short of cash and fearing unpopularity, President Volodymyr Zelensky has not tried hard enough


>Ukraine has also been very late in reinforcing its own defensive positions.


>The government still dreams of a new counter-offensive, and dreads the idea that the current front line may harden into something very like a border, one that lops off a fifth of the country and deprives it of most of its sea access.


>The idea that this line might become the basis for a future peace negotiation is exactly what Mr Zelensky has wanted to avoid. But the dangers are now so great that it is the least bad option.


>Pray that it is not too late.


https://archive.ph/2gTat

 No.1808780

File: 1711694447175.jpg (3.41 KB, 219x138, ohnooo.jpg)

>>1808775
>The idea that this line might become the basis for a future peace negotiation is exactly what Mr Zelensky has wanted to avoid.
if only there had been some peace agreement ukraine could have followed that would have avoided all this…

 No.1808782

>>1808724
They know! Shut it down!

 No.1808791

>ISIS-K(iev)
kek

 No.1808792

>>1808791
Insurgent State of Ivano-Frankivsk and Lviv (ISIL)

 No.1808802

File: 1711702610815.png (1.28 MB, 750x1000, ClipboardImage.png)

>>1808767
smh when will people learn he was albanian

 No.1808806

>>1808775
Current frontline can become a border if and only if the russian forces do not manage in the rest of 2024 a breakthrough like the one they made in Avdeevka in some other directions.
This is quite the heavy assumption however.

 No.1808812

>>1808639
We are reaching glow levels that I did not even think possible.
Langley's finest

 No.1808817

File: 1711705886836.png (256.14 KB, 898x831, ClipboardImage.png)


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India’s close ties with Russia are based on a “Soviet legacy” that is “evaporating”, Ukraine’s foreign minister warned as he urged New Delhi to stand by Kyiv.

On a visit to the India, Dmytro Kuleba also said it should be concerned about Russia’s deepening ties with China, which is locked in a tense border conflict with its southern neighbour India. 

Speaking to the Financial Times, Kuleba said “the co-operation between India and Russia is largely based on the Soviet legacy. But this is not the legacy that will be kept for centuries; it is a legacy that is evaporating.”

India and China have an unresolved border dispute that last flared into deadly violence in 2020, killing at least 24, and prompting a build-up of tens of thousands of troops in forward positions in the Himalayas on both sides. India says regular ties with China will not be restored until the status quo at the border is restored.

In a nod to the tensions, Kuleba said: “The Chinese-Russian relationship should be of particular attention for India in light of its national security prerogatives.”

Ukraine has struggled to win sympathy from India and many other countries in the so-called Global South. These states have mostly avoided taking sides in a war they see as the business of rich nations, and whose economic price they have paid in disrupted trade and higher costs.

Russia remains India’s biggest arms supplier, despite a recent push by New Delhi to diversify its imports to France, the US and other countries. India also became a leading buyer of discounted Russian crude oil after Vladimir Putin’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi earlier this month extended “warm congratulations” to Putin after his re-election in a race the opposition was given no meaningful chance to contest. 

Kuleba said the world’s most populous nation had much to gain from expanding trade and technology ties with Ukraine, as he offered Indian companies a role in postwar reconstruction.

“After the war Ukraine will probably become the largest construction site in the world, and Indian companies are welcome to participate in the recovery,” Kuleba said. 

Ukraine was now looking to “restore trade” with India, the minister said, resuming exports of agricultural products like sunflower oil and buying more Indian goods itself. “We are interested in importing some of the heavy machinery items that India is producing,” he added.

After the Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2022, Kuleba stated that every barrel of Russian crude India bought had “a good portion of Ukrainian blood in it” — a blunt rebuke over the Russo-Indian relationship.

Kyiv has since sought to smooth relations with New Delhi as it tries to win over more countries to its cause.

Ahead of Kuleba’s visit, Modi and Volodymyr Zelenskyy, Ukraine’s president, spoke by phone last week. On Friday, Ukraine’s foreign minister is due to meet India’s Foreign Secretary S Jaishankar. 

Kuleba’s visit to India comes at a time when Ukraine is enduring the most difficult phase since Russia’s full-scale invasion in 2022, with Moscow’s forces gaining the initiative at the front lines and further US military support frozen over opposition from Donald Trump and his supporters in Congress.

However, Kuleba voiced confidence that Washington would come through with a new assistance package, regardless of the outcome of this year’s presidential election.

“The question is not whether, the question is when and how,” he said.

The majority of both Democrats and Republicans were in favour of supporting Ukraine, he added.

“Trump himself said that he’s not against helping Ukraine,” Kuleba said. “He just wants to change the way this help is provided, from grants to zero interest loans.” Kyiv was willing to explore the option, Kuleba said, but “the devil hides in details”.

 No.1808819

>>1808817
>Please use the sharing tools found via the share button at the top or side of articles. Copying articles to share with others is a breach of FT.com T&Cs and Copyright Policy.

who even pays for subscription to this garbage, anyway

 No.1808878

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 No.1808879

>>1808817
>Copying articles to share with others is a breach of FT.com T&Cs and Copyright Policy
anon, you are going to jail

 No.1808880

>>1808819
I guess porkies do

 No.1808890

>>1808880
FT doesn't write for porkies. Porkies don't read such crap

 No.1808893

>>1808817
>Please use the sharing tools found via the share button at the top or side of articles. Copying articles to share with others is a breach of FT.com T&Cs and Copyright Policy
Total paywall death

 No.1808894

>>1808819
one of the biggest reasons why america is losing the information war… i havent run into a russian paywall yet

 No.1808896

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>>1808896
>i write about ships
yaoi or yuri?

 No.1808903

>>1808817
It was literally the Ukrainian SSR that alleviated India's famine under Nehru

 No.1808906

>>1808819
FT is worth subscribing to, the excessive amount for subscription is made to gatekeep proles from accessing from viewing what imperialists talk about.

It's better than The Economist which is a rag for propaganda.

 No.1808917

>>1808775
I hope the fucking thing happens soon and puts this whole fucking thing to bed.

 No.1808923

>>1808906
The Economist is so brain dead that I cringe and stop talking to people if they tell me they read it unironically.

This is the same publication that was advocating against mass development of sewer/drainage systems and claimed that "momentary outbreaks of cholera" were just the price to pay for freedom from state intervention.

 No.1808924

>>1808896
>How it Started
<How it's Going

 No.1808945

>>1808896
same author too lmao

 No.1808959


This is such a great thread. Legit one of the best conflict scenes in leftypol. You have two sides arguing and both are absolutely right. Takes a lotta skill to pull that off.

 No.1808963

>>1808819
>who even pays for subscription to this garbage
I present you…

https://gitlab.com/magnolia1234/bypass-paywalls-firefox-clean

Welcome to the patrician paywall by-passer's club

 No.1808964

>>1808963
Or use archive, yeah. I wasn't asking because I can't read the article but rather was surprised that people pay this rag because it's so bad

 No.1809016

Has Ukraine collapsed yet?

 No.1809129

>The Polish mercenary also gave a harrowing account of what it’s like to be on the battlefield.

>“Everything wants to kill you,” he told RMF. “There are mines under your feet. A man can get within 30 meters of you and throw a grenade. At 100 meters, there is a man with a [Kalashnikov]. There’s a guy standing 400 meters away with a heavy machine gun, he also wants to kill you. There’s a sniper 800 meters away. A tank is shooting from two kilometers away, and there’s artillery 10km away, also shooting at you.”


<Moscow has estimated that at least 13,387 foreign fighters have taken up arms on behalf of Kiev, of which 5,962 have been killed. While Poland has accounted for most of the mercenaries, the US was second on the list, with 1,113 fighters – of which at least 491 have been killed, according to Russian military estimates.

https://swentr.site/news/595126-polish-mercenary-ukraine-deaths/

 No.1809130

>>1809016
My uncle's works for Shoigu and he says it'll happen on April 12th or 13th.

 No.1809136

>>1808878
Liberals refuse to accept that majorities of the population being anti-western-liberal can exist in other countries.

 No.1809137

https://gilbertdoctorow.com/2024/03/27/todays-13-minute-interview-on-wion-indian-television-russian-fsb-says-us-uk-and-ukraine-behind-moscow-attack-whats-the-truth/

<Interviewer: 0:00

The director of Russia’s Federal Security Service, the FSB, Alexander Bortnikov, said on Tuesday that the US, UK and Ukraine were behind the Moscow concert hall attack that killed at least 139 people on Friday. Despite repeated claims of responsibility by Islamic State and repeated claims by the West that Islamic State was behind this, this is the claim which comes from the Russian FSB. Now Russian president has also insisted on an alleged Ukrainian involvement here.

<No proof has been provided for these claims. Then why is Russia insisting that there was a Western hand behind those attacks? What is the FSB basing its remarks on? To discuss matters further, we are being joined by Dr. Gilbert Doctorow. Always a pleasure speaking with you, sir. He is a political analyst, professional Russia watcher, author and historian joining us from Brussels.


<Sir, I want to get to it immediately. An IS affiliate claimed it carried out the attack on Moscow. A US intelligence report said that it had information confirming the group was responsible. French President Emmanuel Macron said France also has intelligence pointing to an IS entity as responsible for the attack. And Ukraine obviously has claimed that it has no involvement in this. Why is Mr. Putin insisting on an alleged Ukrainian involvement? Why is the FSB saying that US, UK and– US Ukraine were involved here as well?


Doctorow: 1:24
>First I’d like to explain that Mr. Bortnikov is not a public figure on Russian television. He sits by his desk at the FSB, unlike his counterpart in the international intelligence agency, service of Russia, that is, Mr. Naryushkin, who we see on television quite often. Mr. Bortnikov sits in his office, and for him to have come and taken an interview with a state television journalist, Pavlo Zarubin, was extraordinary.

>What he said was still more extraordinary. And it’s amazing that major international media have not picked up on this. I’m very pleased that you have. The fact is that Mr. Bortnikov is a close associate of Mr. Putin. He has been in that position as head of the FSB for 15 years. And it is unthinkable that he would say what he said yesterday without the approval of his boss. Now, what does this mean and why is this remarkable?


>Because going back two years to the bombing of the Nord Stream pipelines, which was the most spectacular act of terrorism against civilian global infrastructure in 50 years, the Russians said nothing about. They didn’t point a finger at anyone. There was innuendo the United States was involved, Britain was involved, other countries, but never a direct accusation. What we had yesterday was a direct accusation. At the same time, Mr. Bortnikof explained– he was very, very calm, he had great poise and he chose his words carefully– he said that he is not speaking out of emotion.


3:02
>He’s speaking on the basis of preliminary findings, and that when all the findings are ready, when he has solid facts, he will present them. But he expects to find those. And this is in connection with something else which has been very little reported in Western media. That is to say, the discovery that two of the assailants went to Istanbul in the last days of February and were there until the 2nd of March. It has also been revealed on Russian television that the objective of this terrorist attack had been for a strike against a major venue, probably the same Crocus, but it’s not relevant, a major venue for 8th of March, International Women’s Day, a day that is sacred in Russian calendar and a day that is one week before the presidential elections. The whole logic of this operation would have been to devastate the proceeding Russian elections on the 15th to 17th of March.

>However, the United States intelligence, this according to the Russians, discovered that this was not feasible, that Russian security was very tight for the 8th of March, and the mission would fail. We note that several related facts, Madame Nuland, Victoria Nuland, was fired on the 5th of March. It’s highly interesting that this coincidence. I and others have spoken of her connection with the German generals plotting a strike on the Kerch Bridge using their cruise missiles.


4:40
>However, it is more likely that she was fired because the mission that she had supervised to attack Russia, a terrorist attack, using Islamic extremists on the 8th of March was no longer operable. We are told the Ukrainians are saying that the– that is, the Russians are saying that the Ukrainians proceeded with a terror attack against the objections of the United States because it had lost its rationale. It was supposed to take place before the elections. Instead the Ukrainians staged it one week after the elections, and there is a point of dispute. But when you say that the Russians are … accusing Ukraine, I think it’s missing the bigger issue: the Russians are accusing the United States, and Great Britain. And that puts us in a situation as critical as we were in the worst days of the Cuban missile crisis.

Interviewer 5:59
<Dr. Doctor, I just want to comment here. Now, essentially what you’ve made a lot of major points here. The attack was essentially aimed to kind of throw off the Russian elections, which were scheduled from the 15th to the 17th of March, where President Putin was expected to win, and there was no doubt on that. But this was essentially planned for the 8th of March, Women’s Day, an important day in Russia. And since they were unable to execute it then, Ukraine did not have enough– that’s what you’re claiming– that Ukraine was wanting to go ahead with it still. It did not have the blessing of the U.S. And they continued with it and went ahead with it after the elections.

<There are a lot of claims here. As far as Mr. Bortnikov coming out and making these claims, somebody who doesn’t come in the public eye, I understand that aspect. Is there something more substantial to put all of this together, or to use as proof as of now, or just the fact that they were heading into Ukraine– I’m talking about the four gunmen who were detained in Briansk while they were on route to Ukraine– is that the only bit of solid evidence we have at the moment to suggest a Ukrainian involvement?


Doctorow:
>That’s precisely so, and Mr. Bortnikov was not beating around the bush. He said precisely what you have said. They are working on expanding further the information leads they have now on the connections with ISIS in Istanbul on the timing of the American warning to Russia that a terrorist attack could take place. Let’s remember: that was on the 7th of March. That’s to say two days after Victoria Nuland was fired, and one day before the planned execution of the terrorist attack in Moscow.

>So the bits and pieces, the dots, are taking are falling into place. I repeat that Mr. Bortnikov would never dare to say what he said yesterday without the blessing of Mr. Putin. And Mr. Putin has always been a very cautious player.


Interviewer: 7:44
<Mr. Doctorow, I also wanted to get your thoughts on this. Now, Lukashenko from Belarus, he had mentioned that they were trying to escape to Ukraine because Belarus, their border security wasn’t one that they could have been able to infiltrate, and they inevitably chose to go towards Ukraine. There is another interesting aspect here. When you talk about the getaway plan for these gunmen, there are not two nations but three nations which are in immediate vicinity.

<There is Belarus which is right in the line of escape, then there is Ukraine where they eventually were trying to head towards because Briansk is, if you look at the map, it is diagonally towards Ukraine. And if they were caught in Briansk, that means their getaway plan was clear to go towards Ukraine. They did not take a detour later on.


<There is also Latvia, which also could have been an option for them to get away. And Latvia and Russia, they share a border which is somewhere 180 to 190 kilometers and it is not very well supported, it is not very well built. Half of it, nearly 50 kilometers, doesn’t even have a barricade over there. And over 150 kilometers is yet to be developed properly. Wasn’t that an easier way to get away from– wasn’t that an easier option for them? Given the fact that there is lesser security in the borders since they refused to go towards Belarus. Latvia, of course, being a NATO nation, would have complicated it far beyond belief. But do you think Latvia was an option for the getaway?


Doctorow: 9:14
>There are many unanswered questions, one of which, which hardly ever is raised, is what would await these terrorists when they cross the Ukrainian border? It’s assumed they would be treated like heroes. I think it’s more likely they would have been shot dead on the spot, to eliminate all sources of information.

>If they went to Latvia, it’s not clear what would happen. They could very well be held in custody. And that’s the last thing that the plotters wanted, that is, the foreign plotters wanted, was for these people to be alive and well and able to talk to the Russians. So there is a drawback here.


>But I’d like to call attention to something that’s otherwise not noted in our coverage. That is the nature of the escape plan. It would have been logical, more logical in a way, for these assailants to have disappeared into the Russian Metro. They would be anonymous. They would be very hard to track. But that’s not what happened. Instead, they got into the same white Renault car that brought them from about six kilometers away from where they were lodging to the Crocus venue. They got back in that car. The emphasis in the whole escape was on speed, to do with blinding speed so that the Russians wouldn’t catch up with what was happening until these assailants crossed the frontier into Ukraine.


10:37
>It is remarkable they were in the same car, because the car had been, obviously had been taken on video recorders, that of security devices that all of these major venues have around them. That was ignored. The assumption was that the Russians would be too slow and too uncoordinated to put all this together in an actionable way. But that was a mistake. They were so coordinated.

Interviewer: 11:03
<Dr. Doctorow, of course, the most pertinent question at the moment, among the many other pertinent questions, how do you feel this is going to impact the ongoing war in Ukraine?

Doctorow:
>Disastrously for Ukraine, and I hope not disastrously for us. The discussions now on the premier Russian talk shows– and I have in mind the Vladimir Solovyov show of last night– have taken a radical turn towards violence. One of the Duma members, a member of a key committee on relations with the former Soviet Union, said last night openly, it’s time to raze Kharkiv to the ground.

>We should give– Kharkiv is where the terrorist attacks, the Russians call them terrorist attacks; they are missile and artillery attacks, and also border incursions on the Belgorod frontier region of Russia. They’re coming from Kharkiv. They are intolerable. Dozens of Russian civilians are being killed each week. And that makes very bad news on Russian television. And there are patriots who say,


>“Time to finish this. The Ukrainians are no longer our friends. They never again will be our friends. And it’s time to give a notice to Kharkiv that everyone should get in their car, pack their cars and head west, because we’re going to level Kharkiv to the ground.”


>That language did not exist until after this terrorist event. There’s also talk yesterday on the Solovyov show,


>“It’s time to flatten the presidential palace in Kiev, time to flatten all of the decision-making military and civilian institutions in Kiev.”


>That violent language did not take place until now.

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 No.1809140

>>1809138
What alternate timelime are they from?

 No.1809141

>Russia is not just Russia, it's a coalition of Russia, Iran, North Korea

 No.1809149

>>1809140
From the land of make believe

 No.1809151

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russias-lavrov-tells-newspaper-that-ukraine-peace-plan-is-pointless-2024-03-29/

>offer a "peace deal" that is basically "give us everything we want"

>wuh-wuh-wuh why are the Russians so cruel… asiatic savages…

 No.1809156

>>1809151
>Lavrov said he had met officials and diplomats from Switzerland who had assured him that a peace summit which Bern has agreed to host would include Russian participation and be conducted on realistic terms.
>He said Swiss officials had told him "we understand that nothing can be solved without you, that's unfair." And once the plan was turned into a "collective product", Russia would be invited.
legit?

 No.1809172

>>1809156
If it were Russia would already be at the table. It's just a nato circle jerk to keep up appearances of being "open to dialogue." Washington hasn't reached the last Ukrainian yet so they're not feeling the heat.

Imo by the time they're sweating it's gonna be too late. The collapse will catch them by surprise just like every other time it's happened and while they're still getting their pants on Ivan will be having tea on the border of Poland.

 No.1809182

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>>1809156
doubt. ukraine has never budged one inch from maximalist demands in ten years since the coup, except sometimes pretending to as a ploy to buy time or gain advantage. they are completely intransigent and always have been. total defeat is the only way this ends.

 No.1809187

Some anon posted the video of some russian important guy saying this quote "We will kill all French soldiers who will be sent to Ukrainian territory. Everyone", does anyone have it? i can't find on the internet anymore

 No.1809188

>>1809182
it might not be up to ukraine

 No.1809201

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>>1809182
They were seemingly close to budging on that early on in the SMO, at least until Boris Johnson flew in to tell them not to take the deal.

 No.1809221

Can anyone point me towards resources about discrimination against ethnic Russians in Ukraine?

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>>1809226
Yknow posts like this, and a recent one where someone said they’re soooo tired of “tankies” supporting Palestine but not Ukraine have convinced me that people mistake Socialism for Humanism far too much, and that for Socialism to gain power it must be, if not “anti humanist” then at least willing to draw a distinction

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 No.1809244

File: 1711752087433.png (60.56 KB, 754x513, ClipboardImage.png)

give me that for free

 No.1809250

>>1809244
Yes send more valuable military hardware to Ukraine so Russia can destroy it.

 No.1809259

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 No.1809265

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/29/europe-must-get-ready-for-looming-war-donald-tusk-warns

>Europe must get ready for looming war, Donald Tusk warns

<Polish prime minister urges countries to step up defence spending after Russian missile bound for Ukraine breaches airspace

>The Polish prime minister, Donald Tusk, says Europe is entering a “prewar” era, cautioning that the continent is not ready and urging European countries to step up defence investment.


>In an interview with a group of European newspapers reported by the BBC, Tusk said: “I don’t want to scare anyone, but war is no longer a concept from the past. It’s real and it started over two years ago.”


>Tusk’s comments came days after a Russian missile briefly breached Polish airspace during a major attack on Ukraine, prompting Warsaw to put its forces on heightened readiness. Ukrainian officials have said large-scale Russian missile and drone attacks had targeted energy infrastructure.


>Tusk has been using his platform to try to add a sense of urgency to Europe’s debates about defence and aid to Ukraine, amid fears about the future of American assistance and concerns about defence industrial capacity.


>“True solidarity with Ukraine? Less words, more ammunition,” he wrote on social media earlier this month.


>In another post, he addressed Mike Johnson, the speaker of the US House of Representatives. “How many more arguments do you need to take a decision?” he wrote.


>The Polish prime minister said that regardless of the outcome of the US election this year, Europe would become a more attractive partner for Washington if it became more self-sufficient militarily.


>He called for urgent assistance for Kyiv, saying the next two years of the war would decide everything and that “we are living in the most critical moment since the end of the second world war”.


>What was most worrying was that “literally any scenario is possible,” Tusk said. “I know it sounds devastating, especially to people of the younger generation, but we have to mentally get used to the arrival of a new era. The prewar era,” he said.


>He added that the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, had blamed Kyiv for the attack on Moscow’s Crocus City Hall without any evidence and “evidently feels the need to justify increasingly violent attacks on civil targets in Ukraine”.


>Tusk, who was prime minister between 2007 and 2014 and returned to office in December, is a veteran politician who has previously served as president of the European Council and leader of the centre-right European People’s party. He has sought to improve Warsaw’s standing in the EU and the transatlantic alliance.


>In a recent social media post, he wrote: “The postwar epoch is gone. We are living in new times: in a prewar epoch. This is why Nato and solidarity between Europe and America are more important than ever before.”


>In his comments this week, Tusk underscored the importance of cooperation between Poland, Germany and France, a format known as the Weimar Triangle. While there have been tensions in the past months between Warsaw and Kyiv over Ukrainian food imports, he has worked to try to smooth over differences.


>“Even the closest of friends have conflicting interests and viewpoints at times,” the Polish leader said in a press conference this week alongside his Ukrainian counterpart. The discussions ended “with an even deeper conviction that no force in the world, neither in Ukraine nor Poland, could undermine their friendship”, he said.

 No.1809270

>>1809265
I hate that these fucking cocksuckers use words like "solidarity" when talking about arming neo-Nazis.

 No.1809271


 No.1809276

ear nuke status?

 No.1809280

>>1809259
gemerald

 No.1809283

>>1809276
ingested

 No.1809298

>>1809229
Yes, you only need look at the direction people like Roger Garaudy or Adam Schaff went once they became Humanists.

 No.1809304

>>1809270
surely the poles already ruined that word

 No.1809305

>>1809298
I have no idea what anyone in that video is saying.

That said. You’ve got a class of leftists where the worst thing you can do is initiate violence. It’s checkers, and they can’t comprehend people playing chess.

 No.1809315

>>1809305
Roger Garaudy (the official philosopher of the party and a major supporter of Humanism) giving a speech to the central committee calling for the french communists to abandon Marxism as the philosophy of the party and the working class as a the basis. He gets heckled and booed and nobody claps for him. He was voted to be expelled from the party right after.

Did the CPUSA take a position on the Humanist vs Anti-Humanist debate in the 20th century?

 No.1809321

File: 1711761422732.png (1.22 MB, 1280x720, ClipboardImage.png)

war is evolving

 No.1809324

new mobiks just dropped

 No.1809327

>>1809324
must have been convenient to just hand out uniforms as they get on the school bus

 No.1809336

>>1809305
I love violence

As long violence don't come next door

 No.1809367

>>1809324
front left:
>in only you knew how bad things really are

 No.1809368

File: 1711769218767.jpg (73.42 KB, 680x602, 460.jpg)

>>1809324
>he knows

 No.1809379

finding ukrainian glowie videos on ancient youtube (before 2010)

>Ukrainian Fest Stepan Bandera English greeting part A and B

<678 & 1000 views, uploaded Aug 25 2009

 No.1809382

some stuff from the days of the Social-National party and the early days of Svoboda

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 No.1809384

>>1809383
continuing to post

 No.1809386

>>1809324
jesus they all look so young. i know that wars are realistically always mostly fought by teenagers but it is always so fucked to see

 No.1809390

>>1809382
>>1809383
>>1809384
I would appreciate commentary from Ukrainian Tankanon on this. Euromaidan took place November 21 2013 but I found this rap video titled Euromaidan from Jun 2013. It is the only public video on youtube with that title from before November 2013

 No.1809393


 No.1809396

>>1809390
They had multiple Maidans, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Revolution for example

 No.1809402

>>1809399
What is the proximity of Russia and Ukraine and America and Iraq?

Americans:
>NO YOU ARE DOING ADVENTURISM TOO!

 No.1809415

>>1809412
>promote anti-Russian sentiment, ban Russian language, create anti-Russian terrorist cells inside of Russia
<get butthurt over Russia coming over to you and denazifying and demilitarizing you

 No.1809416

>>1809412
Yes the only legitimate use of qarfare is to defend your own national security. The claim the US always makes when it invades backwaters on the other side of the world.

 No.1809419

File: 1711777484347.mp4 (401.01 KB, 854x480, m2-res_480p.mp4)

It's funny all the "Russia is a big country" thst invaded small bean Ukraine posters never claim Ukraine had any intention of living in peace with Russia. Russia is evil bully who invades, but has Ukraine ever even made a show of wanting piss?

 No.1809420

>>1809419
Everything ukie is always rare we'll k/d the russians 144/38 +

As outside observer my only thought us "we'll see."

 No.1809421

>>1809399
Anti ziggas don't send their best anymore. Wait till you realize the war on Arabs and Russians is part of the same global class warfare.

 No.1809424

File: 1711778419911.jpg (18.51 KB, 474x247, OIP.jpg)

>>1809423
>huurrr duurr I apply selective understanding
Yawn…

>liked

Who liked anon? I only green-texted this word so there must be nothing else in your post that could give me context.

 No.1809440

>>1809399
In Americope the difference between "enemy propaganda" and reality is a few months.

And about the analogy, Putin was explicit in using Kosovo as the precedent for the SMO.

 No.1809474

>>1809244
As a HoI4 video connoisseur, real life is way too close to multiplayer screamfests.

 No.1809510

Communism equals Soviet power plus electrification of the entire nation. Ukrainians have been operating under the rather childish delusion that you can decommunize one but not the other.

 No.1809540

>>1809244
By the time this is over everyone but the most hardcore libs will hate Ukraine.

 No.1809541

File: 1711792210771.png (794.58 KB, 905x716, 2024-03-30 104429.png)

It's funny a common talking point is "Ruzzia struggle to take hamlets" but hamlets like Pervomaiske are larger than 90% of european settlements

 No.1809542

>>1809244
>the patriots???!?

 No.1809547

>>1809541
Westoids hear "village" and imagine Hobbiton when in reality it's likely to be a bunch of concrete buildings sandwiched between windbreaks

 No.1809551

>>1808817
>“After the war Ukraine will probably become the largest construction site in the world, and Indian companies are welcome to participate in the recovery,” Kuleba said.
Yeah on order of Russia, lol

 No.1809554

>>1809547
Windbreaks are crazy. I was working this one farm and it was 30f blowing us down and then we took our break in a windbreaker and it was 60f and sunny, calm, picnic weather.

>>1809541
We have hamlets too but they usually are like a few hundred people tops.

 No.1809558

>>1809554
The future of geoengineering is NOW

 No.1809561

>>1809558
Problem is there is nothing to do about heat. A lot of the year you will be praying for wind chill.

 No.1809565

>>1809561
There could be places with shade where people could stay hydrated with cold water and snacks that keep people cool. There is also the option of climate appropriate clothing similar to what the Arabs wear.

 No.1809568

>>1809547
>>1809554
I didn't know donbass looked like this!

 No.1809606

The US Navy has overspent hundreds of millions of dollars in aid to Ukraine due to recurring accounting errors, according to a Pentagon watchdog’s report that warned the service branch may not have the funds to cover the shortfall next time.

The report released on Tuesday by the US Department of Defense Office of Inspector General (OIG) stated that “the Navy overexecuted its funding three times during fiscal year 2022” when it came to Ukraine supplemental assistance.

While the US Navy appropriated around $1.7 billion in funds to Ukraine, the watchdog found that the branch “overexecuted its allotment of Ukraine assistance funds… totaling $398.9 million.” The overspending was due to the Navy’s failure to address long-standing problems with its automated accounting system.

As a result, accounting errors had to be corrected manually on several occasions, leading the OIG to stress that “the Navy did not have adequate internal controls to prevent over-execution of funds from reoccurring.” It added that the military branch also focused on identifying errors after they had already taken place, rather than preventing them.
RT

 No.1809608

>>1809606
Whoopsie daisey.

 No.1809639

File: 1711804538063-0.jpeg (95.33 KB, 980x551, imagegroup.jpeg)

>>1809324
looks just like WWII

 No.1809642

>>1809606
>The overspending was due to the Navy’s failure to address long-standing problems with its automated accounting system.
Scotty fucked up, he didn't give her all she got.

 No.1809648

>>1809138
Skill issue
Maybe you should have gotten less terrible friends.

 No.1809650

>In the first few days of the war, decisions were made right away – no one gave them a second thought; we just rushed forward.

>International cooperation was faster as well, Kubrakov recalls:


>"You’d text a minister in the UK, and he’d send you the number of the CEO of BP, the CEO of Shell. The American embassy would send you [the number of] the CEO of Exxon. And you’d call them right from the bunker: ‘We need fuel.’ ‘Yeah, wait a sec, we’re on it,’ and so on. That’s how [easy] it was."

big porky is in the drivers seat of this war not any western politician

 No.1809689

La Razon is a screedpad for a traditional conservative right in Spain but this paragraph in particular is hilarious:

https://www.larazon.es/internacional/detener-putin-ucrania-forma-mas-barata-segura-defender-intereses-otan-estados-unidos_202403306607c71217c56e0001388936.html

>Es cierto que el ejército ruso ha mejorado desde su catastrófico desempeño durante el primer año. No significa que haya sido particularmente victorioso. El conflicto se ha congelado. Si tan sólo Washington y la UE se ponen de acuerdo y renuevan el flujo de suministros, las cosas volverán a mejorar. Putin es débil y el reciente ataque terrorista lo ha hecho parecer desnudo. Los rusos han aceptado su estilo autoritario de gobierno a cambio de una promesa de seguridad. El mundo entero vio la seguridad que se proporcionó a los asistentes al concierto de Moscú.

Rough translation:
<It is true that the Russian army has improved since its catastrophic performance during the first year (of the conflict). This does not mean that they have been particularly victorious. The Conflict has frozen. If only Washington and the EU could come to an agreement and renew the flow of supplies, things would improve once again. Putin is weak and the recent terrorist attack carried out has made him look naked. The Russians have accepted an authoritarian style of government in exchange for a promise of segurity. The entire world has seen the security given to those atendees at the Moscow concert

There's so much wishful thinking oblated with war-scare in the article. They blame an ultraconservative sect of the Republicans for blocking US aid as being 'geopolitically blind'. The competing narratives that are synchronizing in concordance with the estiamtions of the security state (mysteriously aligning with western journalism) still diverge in the basic facts to the point that you only have to look at the facts of the conflcit to see through them, because they cannot present a coherent narrative. The EU are in the same position the Israelis are; a territorial war is being waged that implicitly threatens its security, not because the war itself is one of survival, but because they have refused to negotiate with any diplomatic strategy the conditions which have led to it.

Whereas the Israelis are now fundmanetally weakened as a result of their own Zionist policies, the EU still has time in its elections to swing a government that is conciliatory to negotiations with Russia; fundamentally because, however superficial, it is a democratic bloc. EU leaders have only to look to Israel if they wish to see their future if they fail to navigate this crisis successfully (read: if they fail in any other recourse than to that of war, as a result of their blinded defence spending and point blank opposition to Putin's time in office).

 No.1809692

File: 1711811951249.png (552.45 KB, 578x344, 5559320233223.png)

>>1809568
>Epstein's island?

 No.1809724

File: 1711815185729.jpeg (183.81 KB, 735x1024, IMG_1070.jpeg)

Really makes you think

 No.1809732

new 'bama
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2024/03/ukraine-sitrep-syrskis-interview-mobilizing-de-energization.html
<Ukraine SitRep: Syrski's Interview - Mobilizing - De-Energization

 No.1809737

File: 1711816224013.jpg (38.14 KB, 1200x600, snake-Cropped.jpg)

>>1809542
>Psycho Mantis?

 No.1809740

>>1809689
All they have is wishful thinking.

 No.1809744

>>1809732
>There are rumors of an upcoming big Russian offensive. I don't buy those yet. There is still enough of the Ukrainian army left to continue the slow grinding process that has already eliminated large parts of it.

Ugh this fucking war is never gonna end.

 No.1809751

all rise for the ukrainian national anthem

 No.1809755

https://asiatimes.com/2024/03/a-polish-general-dies-deep-in-ukraine/

>That latter role is what has again become clear in the last week of March, as the Russians successfully bombed a six-story deep command bunker in Chasiv Yar on March 26.


>According to the Russians, the bunker was hit by one or more Iskander missiles. The Iskander is a short-range ballistic missile that can operate at hypersonic speed (Mach 5.9). It has different types of warheads including bunker busters that weigh between 1,000 and 1,500 pounds.


>Inside that command center were very senior NATO officers, some of whom were killed, according to Russian reports. One of them was Brigadier General Adam Marczak of the Polish army.


>Poland reported his death, which the Polish Army said was due to “unexplained natural causes.”


>Various Telegraph channels report that other NATO officers were either killed or wounded in the attack at Chasiv Yar. According to these accounts, some of the wounded were hastily evacuated to Poland. We don’t know the names, the ranks or the nationality of any of those killed or wounded other than Marczak.


>Many analysts think that the Russians will soon take Chasiv Yar, even though it is heavily defended. Reports say that Russian forces are only a kilometer or two away from the town, although engaged in fierce fighting as Ukrainian forces try to push them back.


>It is unusual for such high-ranking NATO military officers to be so close to the line of contact with the Russian army. The only reason for them being there is an act of desperation: deep concern that the Russians might successfully push through, endangering the entire second-tier defenses that Ukraine is trying to build to prevent the Russian army from driving toward the Dnieper, potentially splitting Ukraine’s forces and endangering Kiev.


>For some time it has looked like the Russians would launch a really big new offensive. The only question has been the goal of a Russian operation. Some think it would be taking Kharkiv, Ukraine’s second-largest city.


>The Russians recently knocked out part of Kharkiv’s power grid and Russian forces could be sent to attack the city. But this would create a significant problem since taking cities is a costly, long process that always involves significant casualties. The Russians just went through a very long battle for Avdiivka that took four months. Avdiivka is tiny compared to Kharkiv.


>Chasiv Yar and the fighting around that town now seems like a more important and immediate target for the Russians. The fact that it is full of top NATO personnel also says it is a very important strategic asset for the Ukrainians.


>Ukraine’s “new” military strategy, led by its new overall military commander, Oleksandr Syrskyi, is aimed at buying time and delaying any Russian advance.


>To do this, the Ukrainians are building trenches and tank traps and other hardened defensive systems. At the same time, Ukraine is trying to divert Russia through artillery and bombing attacks on Russian cities and parallel attempts to attack Crimea.


>There has also been a significant increase of NATO operations in the Black Sea, probably to help the Ukrainians target Crimea and targets inside Russia. But diversions are unlikely to change the main character of the war or force the Russians to use their forces to defend key assets in Crimea, Donbas or Russia.


>In the next week or two we will likely see what happens in Chasiv Yar and whether the Ukrainians can hold the town and thwart the Russian advance. If they cannot, then NATO will have to think up an alternative that could include opening negotiations with Russia.


>This won’t please US President Joe Biden or his national security team, who prefer a prolonged fight in Ukraine. German Chancellor Olaf Scholz reports that a number of unnamed NATO players are already meeting about some sort of negotiated deal, although so far he says the Russians are not included in the process.

 No.1809757

>>1809692
meds
for me because I thought the same thing

 No.1809762

>>1809732
>its the bam and simpy show
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/future-of-the-smo-russian-army-think

>In the previous installment, we covered Russian military theorist General Baluyevsky’s think-tank paper Algorithms of Fire and Steel. This time we have another fascinating release from the official Russian military journal of the MOD, called АРМЕЙСКИЙ СБОРНИК, or ‘Army Digest’. It deals with assessing the opening state of the SMO and how it’s changed, with what adaptations the Russian MOD has been making to shore up weaknesses exposed in the course of the conflict.


>What’s particularly eye-opening is how forthright it is in dealing with Russia’s limitations, particularly at the start of the SMO, allowing us a better understanding of the current state of things and how the war might evolve going forward.


Link.

>It’s hosted on the official Russian mil site and apparently blocks Western addresses from accessing it, but you can still do so via VPN.


>For the sake of authenticity, it is the March issue #3 of 2024, written by retired Colonel and veteran of military operations Oleg Falichev, and is called:


<Exclude the Human Factor


>It begins by recounting how Putin recently gave an assessment of the SMO at the end of 2023, and frankly asserted a few key problem areas where the Russian Armed Forces need work; namely: seriously restructure communication systems, increase the satellite ISR grouping, improve the work of air defense, increase the production and supply of high precision projectiles like Krasnopol and many others, etc.


< “It is good that, two years later, we have finally begun to speak openly about the problems identified during the special operation. But what exactly did the Supreme Commander have in mind?”

 No.1809767

>>1809751
I think it's been an actual decade since I saw this last

 No.1809785

File: 1711820278730.mp4 (1.92 MB, 854x480, 17118153878720.mp4)


 No.1809789

>>1809785
suicide stork?

 No.1809796

<US Economic Decline and Rise of Greater Eurasia - Michael Hudson, Alexander Mercouris & Glenn Diesen

Looks very interesting

 No.1809805

>>1809796
Any highlights?

 No.1809815

File: 1711824220194.png (474.06 KB, 918x841, exorcism.png)


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 No.1809826

>>1809815
>literally serves the great satan
>doesnt want to be exorcised
what did he expect?

 No.1809828

>>1809796
First 20 minutes:

1)USA cannot be a industrial exporter superpower anymore because they can't create sustainable value, the cost is too much, so instead t they will "rent-seeking". An "Effective formula" for "technical stagnation".
2) Europes role against China, first step is separate Russia from China. Solidify controll over European satellites.
3) Sanctions in Russia effectively provided protectionism for Russias industry to grow and not be dependent on the West. The west that suffered more from this crazy police, making Europe even more dependent on the US.
4) Europe is shrinking, and the one gaining from this is America.
20-40 min
5) Europe will be less and less competitive to America, assymetrical dependencie
6) America stand for "No mutual gain", only Russia and China provides mutual gain for both parties, that is why they can expand in Africa, Asia, South America, etc. Their own version of the UN, their own vision of economic policies, etc.
7)Between 2008 until 2022, Russia were totally dependent of the west. The war made it stop. Sudenlly, there is more money in russia, i wonder why….
8) What happens when "rent" stops? an economy can surge.
9) Living standards increased, unemployment decreased in Russia.
10) Loud dog starts barking. Putin has a priority of mass housing for the people, not only housing for the rich oligarchs.
11) The west has been always poorer then the West. This change is revolutionary, and may change geopolitics in Europe forever.
12) Getting rid of private banks, getting rid of monopolies, focusing on reinvesting, reinvesting, reinvesting. This is nothing new, the west is "reinventing the wheel", the ocident forgot it.
13) Most debt is now private. Credit card debt has raised very much, interest rate are 20% for the regular interest. The US economy is being squeased by inflation, housing costs, squishing the poor. WIPE OUT THE DEBT. THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN PAY. YOU NEED TO GO BANKRUPTCY.

Very interesting video, people should watch it, is very interesting, there is more to be talked about, but i think those are enough good points

 No.1809829

>>1809805
Once I finish sure. At the 30 minute mark there's an interesting point about how the end of financial rent extraction in Russia is boosting its economy and ironically driving local investment. Additionally, Hudson believes part of the imperialist drive towards war with China is rent-seeking behavior specifically the need to control high value goods like computer-related production. He says the US does this because it's no longer an industrial exporter but must find other ways to manage the balance of payments, meaning Chinese tech development is very threatening.
He also says that China is going through what America and Germany dealt with vis a vis Britain, which is how to upend the market so they can develop. This created a clash between rent-seeking monopolies (presumably within an established currency hegemony) and often state-connected industry seeking to expand productive forces, reduce prices to true value, and break up international monopolies.
Following up on exploding credit card debt and Paul Krugman's detached remarks about how great the Biden economy is, they also all agree a revolution in the West is needed around 43-45 minute mark because it's in a quandary.
>>1809828
also this, it's a very very interesting video too

 No.1809831

>>1809829
>they also all agree a revolution in the West is needed
Ohononononoonononnono, Westerners won't like this. Not one bit.

 No.1809833

Putin sent an angry letter before he decided to become the Putler

 No.1809834

Ear status?

 No.1809835

>>1809834
digested

 No.1809837

>>1809828
>Putin has a priority of mass housing for the people, not only housing for the rich oligarchs.
Where did they get this from…? Property prices in Russia are as insane as ever. Apartments in major cities are still barely cheaper than those in the West. I know there was very cheap subsidized housing in the newly liberated regions, but I've heard that's also on the way out. This forced protectionism has done some good for the Russian economy to be sure, but reining in the real estate porky was not it.

The rest sounds plausible, though. Free market bros, were we too cocky?

 No.1809838

>>1809837
If i remembered corectly, he said that "Putin promissed in the election campaigns for mass housing to all", but i am not sure, let me see

 No.1809839

>>1809838
You can see the "Mass housing" part at minute 32

 No.1809840

Anus status?

 No.1809841

>>1809840
Nuked by tea explosions

 No.1809844

File: 1711829846682.png (701.97 KB, 1280x209, ClipboardImage.png)

Apparently Russia has deployed unmanned ground vehicles to the frontline. I think that's the first time UGVs were ever used in actual high intensity combat

 No.1809846

Reddit app throwing multiple adverts for gask masks at me.

Do the deep state know something I don't?

 No.1809847

>>1809846
Military-grade gas masks as well*

Advertised as for "Civlizational collapse"

 No.1809848

File: 1711830398877.png (2.36 MB, 1242x2208, ClipboardImage.png)


 No.1809849

>>1809848
I don't think this mask is for eating hot dogs man

 No.1809852

File: 1711830770157.png (447.35 KB, 1020x680, ibxmygs9hdo31.png)

>>1809844
They tried them out a little in Syria.

 No.1809863

>>1809837
I'd need to try and find it but I think Putin's campaign platform involved a lot of pro-working class measures. Maybe the biggest expansion of social support since the Soviet era? But I might be mixing that up with something else.

 No.1809864

>>1809848
>>1809849
What's the problem? I use this to train for hotdog eating contests and won several times. Have it in my trophy room. Whenever some asks how I can eat all those hotdogs I show them this and say "I'm not much for Orientals but them monks use blindfolds for food so they can focus on the food itself not how much has been eatin."

 No.1809891

cry about it

 No.1809906

>>1809891
Come on, this must be fake.

 No.1809908

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 No.1809909

File: 1711836986978.jpg (9.57 KB, 170x315, 1711835494756.jpg)

>>1809891
Li'l Fuhrer

 No.1809911

>>1809909
Great minds think alike. He/she is a head shorter than the shortest guy there. I'm guessing <5ft .

 No.1809926

>>1809909
is it a child or a hobbit ?

 No.1809934

>>1809909
school lunch status?

 No.1809938

>>1809828
Around 1:04:00 Hudson states he believes left and right is outdated because we've regressed [via imperialism] from 20th century politics and its division of left and right to the 19th century. This sounds a lot like what I say, he even mentions repolarizing. It begs the question if the present division between liberals and anti imperialists is caused by one side believing it came up with a 21st century division and the other seeing the regression to where there is no difference and they are feuding wings of imperialism

 No.1809945

>>1809934
Lunch money taken by ruzzianz.

 No.1809951

>>1809938
Also it was funny to hear Hudson go off about the 1%, mercouris talking about exploitation, and revolution repeatedly coming up

 No.1809956

True

 No.1809959

>>1809956
source?

 No.1809960


 No.1809962

>>1809960
revisionism

 No.1809967


 No.1809971

File: 1711841103055.jpg (24.76 KB, 259x194, images.translated.jpg)


 No.1809977

beatiful

 No.1809978

>>1809938
>Around 1:04:00 Hudson states he believes left and right is outdated because we've regressed [via imperialism] from 20th century politics and its division of left and right to the 19th century.

I'm thinking back to that Dugin quote, I think it was something like
<"There's no longer Left or Right, just The System and Enemies of The System."

Goes back to something I was saying before, where the total victory of Capitalism with the fall of the USSR has created odd circumstances where you'll have weird confluences between the Left and Right, like Russia during the Yeltsin years.

 No.1810088

for the first time since maybe april 2022, zelensky is floating the possibility of talks and giving up on reclaiming the 1991 borders. saying maybe they can just accept the Feb 2022 borders. (IOW, let's just pretend this whole thing never happened and go back to where we started in Jan 2022).
He also recently said that if they don't get a big surge of support from the west very soon, he may have to order a general retreat across the front.

Seems like someone is starting to see the writing on the wall. I doubt russia would accept this "do-over" idea, but it is at least a sign that ukraine is starting to realize it has to budge.

 No.1810096

>>1810088
The only certainty from this will be the cucktin posters

 No.1810097

>>1810096
Meaning what exactly? Finish the thought dude. You can make it!
>>1810088
You could see this coming from the RAND paper with the same hypothesis: that international law was not more violated by leaving Russia with current territory rathen than what they had in early 2022

 No.1810112

File: 1711862720240-0.jpg (112.13 KB, 1441x235, 5737878.jpg)

File: 1711862720240-1.jpg (106.82 KB, 1259x227, 32782345996.jpg)

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>>1809321
People were laughing at the idea of rovers like these being wonderwaffles a couple of threads ago. Just their existence will deter western escalatory doctrine. A few pallets of these airdropped to an ally in Africa would protect it from previously viable western destabilization.

 No.1810119

>>1810112
How expensive are they, compared with human soldiers deploying the grenade launcher, though. If they cannot operate better than men(certainly cannot move better) and they are more expensive, what's the point?

 No.1810120

>>1810112
Calm down. Wireless tech is still susceptible to being jammed. The bigger question is - can these be made cheaply? That's an entire tracked chassis. I'll assume that HMG and the AGL turrets are easy enough to make.

 No.1810121

>>1810119
Play HoI4 to understand more hardness = better. Metal > flesh.

 No.1810122

>>1810121
you need soft power to kill humans and hard power to kill tanks, though

 No.1810124

>>1810122
No, not "hard attack", hardness. The division value that represents how much is protected by armor, and what percentage of enemy's soft and hard attack they will take in combat. And hard attack is lower in every instance except one - dedicated AT.

Light infantry's worth in conventional war was already low, but is rapidly dropping.

 No.1810128

>>1810120
>Calm down.
Is what military planners said about the drone vids that emerged from the last Azerbaijan vs Armenia. Ofc basic wireless can be jammed, there are other control channels. These are just the first iteration, imagine heavier mortars on similar more mobile chassis. These will be plenty cheap compared to conventional methods of delivering explosive.

 No.1810129

>>1810128
Bayraktar didn't work against a conventional army, though. Mass DJI drones spam is a different beast entirely

 No.1810132

>>1810128
"Conventional methods" include suicide drones, which are basically just plastic with a shaped charge, and Bernoulli's principle does most of the work. Tracked, steel chassis takes a bit more than just a decommissioned mall to set up shop in to make. But more likely to be assembly line'd, if you get stomach the massive upfront investment.

 No.1810133

File: 1711865827836.jpeg (19.67 KB, 474x237, 964532156.jpeg)

6km mortar range, shoot and scoot in seconds. It will be miniaturized and remote/autonomous in a couple of years.

 No.1810134

>>1810128
I doubt these things are nearly as cheap as drones though, for starters they look heavy enough to be a hassle transporting. And unlike cheapo drones, they'd have to be deployed with other troops anyway. So may as well have a grenade launcher or mortar crew instead.

 No.1810135

>>1810133
>artillery
>but more expensive, deliver less explosives, and more likely to be lost, if located

 No.1810137

>>1810135
Mortar is not artillery, it's infantry support weapon

 No.1810138

>>1810137
So, what, you're supporting your assault drones with mortar drones?

 No.1810140

>>1810132
>"Conventional methods" include suicide drones,
Sure, I was equating these new tracked rovers with larger self propelled mortar systems, both of which are methods of laying down heavier fire than air drones. In particular as highly mobile and transportable area denial tools in the African context. Ground rover offer many advantages over current air drones also.

 No.1810141

>>1810138
You know what, this sounds plausible

 No.1810159

>>1810140
I wonder if ekranoplans are viable

 No.1810175

>>1810134
>cheap
picture a chassis with 6/8 motor-in-hub wheels. extremely cheap and simple to manufacture with comparable mobility and increased speed compared to tracks.
>may as well have a grenade launcher or mortar crew instead.
I crew and transporter could control and transport multiple of these units at a distance

 No.1810181

I think they are gonna be loved by law enforcement though. Lot's of new toy factor, prevents retaliation, plausible deniability because of removing the human factor and the toy counting as an "agent" to justify violence or fines… Looking forward to Gardeners deploying the Israeli checkpoint AI autoguns on their borders as things heat up.

 No.1810227

File: 1711878154048.jpg (80.43 KB, 720x395, Tusk.jpg)

Comments like these illustrate why the garden is so detached while sitting at the top of its warlike global system. This and claims like imperialism returning via jungle encroachment really speaks to how 15% of the population has been experiencing a different kind of world

 No.1810228

>>1810227
Poland isn't the garden, they LARP as the garden.

 No.1810233

Vijay's idea of a decadent stage basically means the liberal bourgeoisie has no positive vision of development. He basically says that unlike the era of the struggle against feudalism, there is no promise of abolishing present conditions and subsequently creating a popular movement. There is just the preservation of present relations and the arrangement of classes while sitting at the top of a decaying global structure.

 No.1810235

>>1810233
Just to get ahead of this
Noooo you can't say
>imperialism on steroids
Capitalism is imperialims. Everything stays the same. The world will always continue to revolve around the sun.

 No.1810243

>>1810235
With globalization, I see three paths. There is the liberal one, you believe that liberalism is the new contradiction because capitalism in this super imperialist stage never degenerated into reaction and therefore its class warfare is progressive (polarizes over democracy). There is the ultra one, the world has reached one point of development and everyone is imperialist. Then there is the anti-imperialist/multipolarist one.

 No.1810264

>>1810233
Yeah, a case of "those below do not want to live like before, and those above cannot rule like before" straight out of Lenin. People demand change, but the rulers cannot find solutions in the old paradigm

 No.1810278

The mayor of Paris has suggested that Russian and Belarusian contestants stay away from this summer’s Olympic Games in the French capital, despite being officially allowed to compete as neutrals.

“I want to tell the Russian and Belarusian athletes that they are not welcome in Paris,” Anne Hidalgo told Ukrainian athletes at a training center in Kiev on Thursday, while on a visit to Ukraine.

Earlier this month, the mayor of Paris said she would prefer for Russian and Belarusian contestants not to come at all. “We cannot act as if [the Russian military operation in Ukraine] did not exist,” she told Reuters.

When asked about Israel’s Olympic participation – in the context of the Gaza war, raging since the Hamas attack on October 7 – Hidalgo insisted there was no comparison to be made.

Sanctioning Israeli athletes is “out of the question because Israel is a democracy,” she stated.

- RT

 No.1810279

>>1810278
>Sanctioning Israeli athletes is “out of the question because Israel is a democracy,” she stated.
Lmao

 No.1810282

>>1809945
the third holodomor

 No.1810289

>>1810279
>>1810278

She is member of the Socialist Party

 No.1810290

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 No.1810296

>>1810289
>first world 'socialists'

 No.1810298

>>1810278

An anon of /ukraine/ has invited the mayor of Paris to go fuck herself.

"We cannot act like she's not a complete cunt," he reportedly said.

 No.1810301

>>1810289
>>1810296
Ever since Mitterrand (who was a collaborationist during the occupation btw), the Socialist Party stepped away from social democracy to promote social liberalism. They never were good on anything, really, but they became worse after the 70s, as they surrendered to neoliberalism.

 No.1810302

They should just change names at this point

 No.1810314

>>1810301
>step away from social democracy to social liberalism
I've learned recently this is basically because of the international capitalist system set up after 1945, which tried to reconcile local welfarism with capitalist openness and interdependence. Social democracy wasn't flexible enough for this, suggesting it was only good for advanced great nations in the era of inter imperialist antagonism. In hindsight we now know for certain who was right in the debate between social democratic reformism and revolutionary socialists because we see the wall the former hits and how the wall relates to the constraints of imperialism

 No.1810317

>>1810137
Mortars are artillery.

 No.1810340

https://archive.is/KbPNi

<Nato must be ready for Russia to ‘pivot quickly’ and invade our countries, Baltic ambassadors say

> Diplomats say Putin’s brutalisation of Ukraine has brought back darkest memories of occupation under Stalin

Funny article, then this right at the end:
>In an interview with The Telegraph earlier this month Latvia’s foreign minister, Krišjānis Kariņš, urged Britain to consider following it in reintroducing conscription to deter Russia.

Lol. Lmao even.

 No.1810341

>>1810314
>In hindsight we now know for certain who was right in the debate between social democratic reformism and revolutionary socialists because we see the wall the former hits and how the wall relates to the constraints of imperialism
do we? I can't see any serious marxist movements getting revived while socdem (which is neither soc nor dem nowadays) trash thrives

 No.1810342

>>1810341
he's not talking about a popularity contest but what would actually work

 No.1810344

>>1809938
your analysis is correct but I don't think either "side" thinks about it that way. Like that would require way too much historical literacy out of liberals for one thing for them to even have an opinion on whether they think this division is new or not.

 No.1810372

>>1810317
And apples are nature's candy.

 No.1810382

File: 1711905729114.jpg (166.44 KB, 1440x1491, GKAIcqzW8AEmqN5.jpg)

It's ovvyyir

 No.1810386

>>1810382
No lies detected in this post, it's good that they are finally realizing the cost of siding with the West.

 No.1810391


 No.1810394

>>1810382
Those aren't bombs. They're the fruits of nato membership falling from the tree.

 No.1810396

>>1810382
like just surrender at this point. the population is innocent. spare them from being slaughtered. also save the infrastructure. they'll need as much as they can get.

 No.1810397

>>1810396
To the last Ukranian.

 No.1810399

>>1810397
how sad

 No.1810429

>>1810135
Tank-anon, you're an idiot. This is literally little different to any other mortar mounts such as the MT-LB variants with mortars. This is absolutely useful, the only thing I'd argue with is the use of a tall 4x4 chassis, but that's because of cross-country limitations.

 No.1810430

>>1809785
The goofy-ass flight pattern just makes this better.

>>1810112
The Ukrainians countered with small FPV drones, but it took multiple hits to take them out, and most of the ones they hit were already disabled.

 No.1810436

>>1810429
Don't listen to them tankanon.
Reminder that these freaks spent a month trying to convince us 'trophies' existed.

 No.1810446

>>1810436
Trophy status?

 No.1810450

>>1810436
saying that mobile mortars which have been used by a bunch of countries (including USSR/Russia) have their niche isn't quite the same as saying that a specific israeli system works

 No.1810454

>>1810394
KEK but also dayum, son

 No.1810455

>>1810446
digested

 No.1810459

>while you still have legs to kneel with

 No.1810462

File: 1711913032686.jpg (306.72 KB, 918x702, Tnk.jpg)

>>1810446
>Trophy status?
Fake and gay.
Sciencefaggits btfo.

 No.1810471

>>1810459
>>while you still have legs to kneel with
but they don't have ears to listen to the demands…

 No.1810572

Hey guys, wired just put out an expose about how the cellphones traveling to Epstein's islands were also going to Ukraine. Seems like someone here would be interested in reading about it.

It's about Near Intelligence.

 No.1810606

>>1810459
uh oh, consider your answer carefully ukraine

 No.1810621

Reminder:
Ukraine's was supposed to have a presidential election today, and Zaluzhny was leading in the polls until he was fired and exiled by Zelensky.
The next election is scheduled for after Ukraine captures Crimea and Russia surrenders.
The West will still refer to Ukraine as a "democracy" and Russia as a "dictatorship".

 No.1810628

>>1810621
But I heard that Crimea will be LIBERATED in a few months. Then they'll hold the election. Slava Ukraini!

 No.1810629

File: 1711927531871.png (1.51 MB, 1439x1554, ClipboardImage.png)

lmao is this actually true

 No.1810637

>>1810289
>She is member of the Socialist Party
The fruits of Euro-communism. Reject the "tankies" they said, embrace (liberal)"democracy", they said.

 No.1810643

>>1810621
IIRC they are in an impasse because Zelenskyy's government passed a decree some long time ago, presumably still in effect, that makes it illegal to negotiate with Russia about the war, for as long as Putin remains in power. So one way or another Agent Z is gonna have to take the L.

 No.1810686

>>1810278
Belarus isnt even a participant in the war.

 No.1810687

>>1810278
"We will kill all French soldiers who will be sent to Ukrainian territory. Everyone "

wanted to find the video about it but oh well

 No.1810719

>>1810301
French anon, whats your opinion of Bernard Friot?
>>1810637
SocDems have always been opposed to us.

 No.1810739

File: 1711947634244-0.png (1.38 MB, 1686x1420, ClipboardImage.png)

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>>1810621
>Reminder:
>Ukraine's was supposed to have a presidential election today
Be assured, the CNN gotcha covered on that!

Ukraine’s election day dawns with no vote in sight and little appetite for one – for now, anyway
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/30/europe/ukraine-election-zelensky-intl/index.html
>Kyiv CNN —
>In another world, Ukraine would be voting today. In a year where billions get the chance to cast a ballot, people here would be giving their verdict on the presidency of Volodymyr Zelensky.
>Five years ago, the man whose talents as an actor, comedian and producer had made him a household name in Ukraine was propelled into office. But with Russian forces still inside the country and millions of Ukrainians displaced from their homes, fighting on the frontlines, or living overseas, there is no election in sight.
>Some US Republicans have sought to make the upcoming expiration of Zelensky’s term, which happens in May, another reason why military aid should be withheld.
>Zelensky himself has said he was open to the idea but in recent months has made it clear it is not something he believes the country can or should do. Although Sunday is the day the constitution says Ukraine should be voting, it also does not allow it during wartime. The alternative would be to suspend martial law for the period of an election.
>[…]

Of course, mandatory Nazi to punctuate the (liberal) democratic vibe. The right patch is the emblem of "C14"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S14_(Ukrainian_group)

And the left side patch is the emblem of one of the constituents of the "Myrotvorents Batallion"
https://militaryland.net/ukraine/special-police-forces/myrotvorets-battalion/
>3rd Company Harpoon
>Created on September 15, 2014, as a reconnaissance police battalion Harpoon. In 2015, reformed as a company under the command of Myrotvorets Regiment.

So a Nazi cop in the same regiment as Tornado, yes, that Tornado. Interviewed by CNN, with a selfie and all so no plausible deniability of being ignorant of the man's beliefs.
>“The military is afraid that someone may decide to hold elections, either for internal reasons, or under pressure from Western countries […] A power vacuum during the transition period may pose a threat to the management of the military and the functioning of the state,” Oleksandr Voitko, serving with a drone unit, said.

 No.1810765

>>1810739
West loves a military junta

 No.1810786

File: 1711962935786.mp4 (16.38 MB, 1280x720, 17119602510870.mp4)

First Russian propaganda clip I think is actually kinda good
>He is elite, you're meat. Are you prepared to die for him? You know the people whose sons aren't going to be mobilized.

 No.1810788

>>1810786
Only problem with this is it is a bothsides moment.

 No.1810789

>>1810788
>bothsides moment.
Come on. Only one side has had clips of random civilian men being grabbed into vans posted online for over a year now.

 No.1810790

>>1810788
exactly what i was going to say lol

>>1810789
russia has conscription, though it's certainly more organised than in ukraine

 No.1810791

>>1810786
Yeah thats quite effective.

 No.1810792

>>1810789
The Russians haven't needed to round up random men but their army is full of poor men signing up for pay not porky's sons signing up for patriotism.

At least in WW1 the European empire's sent the "cream" of the nobility to the front.

 No.1810802

>>1810792
>At least in WW1 the European empire's sent the "cream" of the nobility to the front.

weren't they usually officers and generals though

 No.1810803

>A yearlong investigation by The Insider, in collaboration with 60 Minutes and Der Spiegel, has uncovered evidence suggesting that unexplained anomalous health incidents, also known as Havana Syndrome, may have their origin in the use of directed energy weapons wielded by members of Russian GRU Unit 29155. Members of the Kremlin’s infamous military intelligence sabotage squad have been placed at the scene of suspected attacks on overseas U.S. government personnel and their family members, leading victims to question what Washington knows about the origins of Havana Syndrome, and their family members, leading victims to question what Washington knows about the origins of Havana Syndrome, and what an appropriate Western response might entail.


>“Unit 29155's scope is global for conducting lethal operations and acts of sabotage. Their mission is to find, fix, and finish, all in support of Vladimir Putin’s imperial dreams.”

 No.1810808

>>1810802
Junior officers had to lead the men in the field. And they usually died at higher per capita rates than enlisted men.

 No.1810809

>>1810803
The grift continues.

 No.1810811

File: 1711965182029.png (123.69 KB, 713x636, 2024-04-01 115057.png)

Transformers status?

 No.1810815

>>1810789
Russia was rounding up people a while ago, not as extensively as Ukraine but still.

 No.1810816

>>1810815
Nah Putin let them flee out of the country remember the car line ups?

 No.1810819

>>1810802
yes, though the british army had to explicitly tell their generals to stop trying to be brave and lead from the front, since so many were dying that way

 No.1810820

File: 1711967795715.jpg (91.78 KB, 500x500, 1710414833357084.jpg)

>Speaker Mike Johnson is “committed” to bringing Ukraine aid to the House floor — even though it is likely to spark a mutiny within his caucus and could potentially cost him his job, a GOP congressman said.

>Rep. Don Bacon (R-Neb.) expressed optimism that Democrats will throw Johnson a lifeline to secure additional funding for Ukraine’s fight against Russia.


>“[Johnson’s] committed to making this the top priority when we return back to Washington, DC,” Bacon told “Meet the Press” on Sunday.


>However, he acknowledged that the move will likely spark a fight to oust the Louisiana Republican — who has a wafer-thin majority.


imagine thinking the US congress would actually be able to resist another round of money laundering and funneling more taxpayer cash to the arms industry.
Expect zelensky to get his next fix in about a week or so.

 No.1810823

>>1810820
They will. USA doesn't have the budget to throw 60 billion around

 No.1810829

>>1810823
>USA doesn't have the budget
They print money. They have the budget for anything on this planet. Real industrial capacity, on the other hand…

 No.1810833

>>1810829
Every time you print money, you exact a proportional tax. If this money goes to real economy and not financial bubble, that is

 No.1810837

>>1810833
True but America can definitely always find more money for the defense contractors.

 No.1810841

File: 1711973728931.jpg (119.43 KB, 700x444, USBudget.jpg)


 No.1810843

>>1810841
not sure where you get that from, total US budget last year was apparently 6.4 trillion USD. though yes they are in a deficit obviously.

 No.1810844

>>1810843
567 million * 12 months ~ 6.8 billions

 No.1810847

File: 1711974194065.png (56.22 KB, 208x241, that's terror.png)

>>1810841
>corporation tax only brings in $60b per year

 No.1810850

>>1810847
If you tax them, they will tax evade or worse, run away to other countries!

 No.1810859

>>1810847
That chart is not a whole year.

 No.1810865

>>1810847
The actual amount is close to half a trillion.

 No.1810866

>>1810815
conscription is different from snatching random people off the streets

 No.1810871

>>1810850
Crapitalism is the most cuck-inducing system ever. I understand capitalists set it up for themselves but I don't understand the simps for crapitalism.
>Cannot tax corporations
>Cannot nationalize them
>Muh Private property

 No.1810875

File: 1711979576387.png (584.53 KB, 568x1113, 17119760074454.png)

Surrender husbanduru

 No.1810885

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