/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>1825745
2-3 week preparation and an attack 3x or higher, up to wipe them out level or >>1825756 <- what this anon said and I honestly can't read which it'll be.

>The Israel Defence Forces (IDF) have reportedly developed artificial-intelligence (AI) tools known as “The Gospel” and “Lavender” to “mark” suspected operatives of Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad, two militant groups, as targets for bombing, according to Israeli officers familiar with the systems.
>literally imitating Marvel Super-Nazis
Who do you think the AI will tell them to target in iran?

If the zionist entity can use America likely and what I'm talking about with Iraq/Jordan don't occur. I believe with the full weight of NATO/Israel they can reduce Iran to a place really only capable of guerilla warfare. (Enough to protect Iran but no longer project power not to mention reduce it to a state able for color revolution) What Iran is capable of is not enough to be the last one standing in case of a purely missile/air power battle. If Iran is reduced to that, the Palestinian cause is basically concluded. The zionist and the apparatus of Western imperialism are counting on this. They plan to complete the nakba and send the middle East into a century of humiliation and really it'd be a second one at that. Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about with Jordan and Iraq but the resistance NEEDS this or it's finished.

>>1825714>>1825739
song PLS

>>1825779
One of the variations of Aaron Smith - Dancin (KRONO Remix)

>>1825795
I know but I want the Arabic version in the video

>>1825748
I hope Sadat is burning in hell at the moment

>>1825748
Another thing I can see happening in the near future is Syria + Iraq unifying as one country in the near future, the peoples of these two nations love each other the most in the region, and they share identical problems too

>>1825807
>Me
Lie. That's Will Smith.
Go back twitteroid.

>>1825766
How does this AI even work though

>>1825477
The Persian minority in India are Zoroastrians, not Muslim.

>U.N. Secretary-General António Guterres said it was time to “step back from the brink” as a chorus of world leaders urged restraint. President Joe Biden has warned Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu against launching new strikes on Iran. He said the U.S. would not participate in any offensive actions against Iran but has privately said he fears that Netanyahu is trying to drag the U.S. into a wider conflict, officials told NBC News.

So are we to believe that Israeli nuts are off the leash of the US and trying to drag burgers into their war, or is US lying and feigning ignorance meanwhile planning their invasion of Iran together

>>1825739
i'ts just a sped up remix of aaron smith - dancin

>>1825826
I read something once about a golden child of narcissistic parents getting so fucking upset the first time they’re told “no” (by grandparents mind you) that they threw a massive temper tantrum, broke shit, and locked themselves in a room and threatened to kill themselves. Their parents could only plead the grandparents to give in because they were afraid she’d actually do it.

I think Israel is that golden child for America.

>>1825826
>[Biden] fears that Netanyahu is trying to drag the U.S. into a wider conflict
dude, just turn off the dome and leave cyprus: you won't have to worry about netanyahu very long I promise.

>>1825836
you'd think the shine would come off after the first mass grave atrocity

>>1825771
>I believe with the full weight of NATO/Israel they can reduce Iran to a place really only capable of guerilla warfare.

Nah, it's the other way around. If Iran really wanted, Iran could flatten Israel into stone age

The ideal Palestinian strategy is constant economic siege on Israel, not a quick-and-dirty escalation. Samson means that Israel can't be Zerg-rushed, but constant political doubt and pressure via Shaheeds, Qassams, etc, can create a constant gap in the Israeli treasury and any actually successful hits would make Israel uninvestible.

Military warfare by itself cannot achieve success in Israel, but military warfare as a means of economic warfare can.

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Re: Iran, yeah, Iran can be reduced to guerrilla warfare by NATO. Out of Russia, China, and Iran, Iran is the weakest link with the smallest economy and the least population.

The question isn't whether or not Iran can be defeated, but how much damage the Iranians can do back to the occupation force. Given Iranian technological advances, probably a lot, which is why I actually want NATO / Israel to go attempt to occupy Iran to bog them down in an inexorable quagmire.

>>1825839
I was probably underestimating them. I suppose it's a mutually assured destruction event. I Say within a month they basically ruin each other.
>>1825847
If Iran sacrifices itself gets a color revolution… but Israel is no more I suppose that's a win for the resistance. It's horrific to think this might mean 2-4+ million deaths though. Though what's the point of moralizing, like the material contradictions aren't already in motion beyond the control of any party. My fear here >>1825771 is Iran gets isolated isreal survives… If the color revolution… Occurs the Islamic Republic of Iran falls it's proxy's fan out and though Israel is barely breathing still has a pulse, that will likey be because of said isolation. I can see no event that happens with Iraq especially if not Jordan on Iran's side. I believe the Islamic world of West Asia hates America and Israel more then Iran and I think the geopolitics will show this but I can't say exactly how. It's up to the national bourgeoisie though to see were the winds go and just how much power Western hegemony has.

>>1825748
>>1825734
It's rather obvious that you know fuck all about Iraq and recent events there.
Look up the October demonstrations. In 2019 Iraq witnessed a resurgence in nationalist, anti-sectarian sentiment. A sentiment that the US imperialists and the Iranian clerical regime tried to bury to the best of their abilities, for long they tried equating any resemblance of Iraqi nationalism or socialism to Ba'athisim. So Iraq would forever be divided trembled over by foreign powers. For the Zionist occupation, the Iranian theocracy and Gulf rental states know what a strong, sovereign Iraq is capable of.

Endless wars exacerbated these divsions until very recently when the material contradictions have reached their zenith. Endless death, crippling poverty, brutal austerity, astonishing inequality, exploitation, repression, rapidly rising unemployment, illness, drugs, total social, economic and environmental degradation. This is what Iraq has been like for over 20 years under neoliberalism after its disastrous shock therapy, an unjust system violently imposed by imperialists and their reactionary lackeys. Its effects can be felt everyday from Zako to Basra.
To quote Noami Klein
>A people, starved and sickened by sanctions, then pulverized by war, is going to emerge from this trauma to find that their country has been sold out from under them. They will also discover that their newfound “freedom” – for which so many of their loved ones perished – comes pre-shackled with irreversible economic decisions that were made in boardrooms while the bombs were still falling. They will then be told to vote for their new leaders, and welcomed to the wonderful world of democracy.

When in 2019 Iraqis tried to use every mean avaliable to them within the system to seek change. They were met with bullets by IRGC militias and indifference by the west, who are the primary beneficiaries of the status quo. While a thousand Iraqis, mostly students, were massacred, the world was busy mourning over Hong Kong where virtually no protester lost their life. But it made for cool photo OPs with red, white and blue flags, something the Iraqi protests lacked.

While the protests were suppressed violently and protests virtually ceased with the help of covid. It taught Iraqis that the only way towards change is revolutionary change through violence. The same violence that the comprador bourgeoisie have used against them for decades. As if Iraqis wanted a reminder of their failed system, when they have one of the lowest voter turn out rates in the world. Next time tears will be met with blood. If you want a preview look up the 1920 and 1958 Iraqi revolutions.

The status quo is unsustainable. You can feel the panic the ruling class felt in 2019 when it resorted to massacring people. No doubt change is coming. The only question is, will it be progressive or reactionary? As it stands, I can predict the outcome by imaging what the Iraqi worker feels when he turns his head to the international left to see mostly those cheering for his misery, to them he is devoid of struggle and only exists as a pawn in their geopolitical game, and occasionally as a perpetual victim whose suffering is to be exploited for their own agenda.

>>1825855

It's revolution; millions of people will die, but hopefully for a decent cause.

Iran itself seems antsy and doesn't want a fight, given the "scale" of its attack. However, if the Israelis choose to escalate the Iranians no longer have a choice.

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Good ol' Iranians having children march through minefields, each of them holding a plastic "key to heaven" made in Taiwan.

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Israeli's GDP shrunk by an annualized 20% in Q4, or about 5% Q/Q. We need to see how well the Israeli economy holds up; simply zero-ing them means that increasing military spending costs will begin to weight on their integrity.

But as with Russia, states with decent finances (Israel is 60% debt to GDP) can last quite some time; if the strain is comparable to Russia, they can likely hold out for a decade or more of constant economic pressure.

dickblast is posadagang…

>>1825813
Fucked if I know. But it resulted in a swaths of journalists getting murked in Gaza.

>>1825866
Is this fucking real???? LMAO

>>1825876

Which is why Iran would probably like to remain paranuclear; i.e, once they have nukes, they're staring at a nuclear exchange with Israel every time Hezbollah launches rockets.

If the shit actually hits the fan, or it looks like both sides are going to full-scale war, Iran will go nuclear to end the conflict. So, while the Iranians would like to maintain the possibility of going nuclear, they'd rather continue to hold the Palestinian resistance on a leash, and not become a "mature" "responsible" nuclear power until avoidance is an impossibility.

>>1825863
Thanks for educating me on current Iraqi conditions. Admittedly I've found it hard to search what's happening on the ground and what's the sentiment. Even more embarrassingly I being discouraged by this struggle haven't tried as hard as I should. I loosely know of Iraq's struggle with Iran back to their war in the 80's and I've loosely understood that Iran wants them as a client state. Which lead to me gooning about geopolitics shows I can at least see Iran's interest in Iraq despite my ignorance. If this goes regional I still want to believe that the beef with Iran isn't as potent as the hatred for the Yankee zionist. What I'm hoping for maybe to restate it ideally, would be like the Sahel alliance in Africa but for the region in-between the nations between Israel and Iran. This would allow for a joint effort with Iran against Israel without permanent submission to Iran which I don't want in fact once Iran serves it's purpose with Israel it's government can go for all I care.

>>1825881
Also, notably for Iran in this situation, holding nukes makes them a higher priority target. They haven't needed nukes so far to prevent regime change, so obtaining nukes would not necessarily be in their interest in that capacity either. The possibility of Iran getting nukes has already demonstrably functioned as a pretty effective geopol chesspiece for them.

I don't know shit about the mechanics of the way nukes work. I know they have to enruch uranium to a certain form. Can't they just make some kind of half nuke bomb or am I utterly retarded?

>>1825897
>am I utterly retarded
Yes, you are.

Dirty bombs are worse than nuclear bombs.

>>1825900
In what way? Don't exhaust yourself in a reply but I'd like to know.

>>1825906
"Dirty bomb" means using regular explosives to scatter and deliberately contaminate an area with radioactive material.

Nuclear bomb means using nuclear fission or fusion to release energy and create an explosive, which results in less radioactivity over its lifetime.

>>1825897
Nukes are already half bomb.
Quick rundown is that you need a subcritical mass of fissile material that you hit with more fissile material so it turns critical, you need to do blabla so you do a chain reaction that is self-sustaining, blabla standing for big enough mass or using mirrors to keep reflect the neutrons back into the mass.

>>1825906
>>1825909
Basically, a nuke turns the radioactive material into non-radioactive material, but a dirty bomb sprays un-fissioned radioactive material everywhere.

>>1825913
>>1825909
>>1825910

Ok thanks anons had some idiotic notion it'd
be worth something even in that state, now see that it's pointless and does nothing over high grade conventional bombs. I suppose that if the dirty bomb can't cause a fission reaction it certainly can't do enough for a fusion reaction in a hydrogen bomb because the fission reaction has to occur for the subsequent fusion reaction in a hydrogen bomb. It's not that I was wrong in thinking it's fuck shit up but I now realize it's bring much more anger international then a nuke.

>>1825826
Brandon could just say “lol step down as prime minister or we won’t fund you” and that will solve his problem.

>>1825698
>one that won’t spark wider war
lol>
>1825913
>a nuke turns the radioactive material into non-radioactive material
no lol, plenty of daughter products are also radioactive. it doesn't create any transuranics though, unless we're talking about plutonium bombs

>>1825826
Israel is Trump-pilled. They want to construct new attrocity porn for the elections so that Trump could claim that Biden abandoned Israel for Ukraine.

USA abandoning Ukraine for Israel after the election is RETVRN TO TRADITION.

>>1825863
>>1825892
Such civil discussion on my leftypol

>>1825881
that's a little silly. if iran gains second strike capability it forces israel to pull their fucking head in, probably kills israel economically when they can't also do murder and steal oilfields.

>>1825897
sort of. modern nukes are way higher yield than the minimum fissile material for a nuclear explosion, tactical warheads with hypersonic delivery would still fuck shit the fuck up, no need to make the ICBM version if you can just hold a sword over the most moral nation on earth.

>>1825900
>>1825909
no they're not. the nuclear fallout of a dirty bomb is relatively contained and not the civilization ending consequences of a nuclear strike. I'd recommend "War Games" by the inimitable Peter Watkin. the dirty bomb is bush era propaganda, but it's more anxiety inducing than effective. it's one contaminated block/building vs part of a city being vaporized, and those that survive being blinded and given lethal doses of radiation from the flash and the fallout.

in a nuclear strike the living would envy the dead. a vast number of the survivors would die quickly from their skin falling off, others would take weeks to die painfully as their body dies and rots from the inside out. Any humanitarian effort to help the victims is frustrated by the fallout, and much of it would be futile palliative care. The suffering is passed on in generations of survivors through genetic damage.

if israel drops the bomb it's fucking over for them. there is no fucking way the world could forgive them for committing a nuclear holocaust immediately after a conventional one. it's a crime against life itself.

finally while we're talking nukes: we should never have forgiven the US for testing fallout on the marshall islanders.

>>1826001
So your saying a dirty bomb can be used in a targeted way in some applications. For example one could use one of a smaller scale and say hit an settler area while saving a Palestinian area, say even 5-10 certainly 20+ miles away. I must state this isn't a desire I seek to know their capacity

>>1826009
>So your saying a dirty bomb can be used in a targeted way…
nah I'm saying a dirty bomb is fucking useless. however instead of pulling a north korea and making "strategic" nukes that go to space and reach washington, states can make smaller "tactical" nukes that fit the payload of missiles they already have. "tactical" nukes would be plenty for iran because they only have to be able to reach tel-aviv to radically shift the balance of power from colonial genocide to islamic gommunism.

>>1826001
>if israel drops the bomb it's fucking over for them. there is no fucking way the world could forgive them for committing a nuclear holocaust immediately after a conventional one. it's a crime against life itself.
you mean like when amerikkka dropped not one but two nukes

>>1825717
>>1825715
You retards realize Sadaam was put there by the CIA to tip the scales of the Baath party in Iraq to the nationalists favour right?
Dumbasses

>>1825909
>>1825913
eh? nukes create radioactive debris

>>1825910
>Quick rundown is that you need a subcritical mass of fissile material that you hit with more fissile material so it turns critical, you need to do blabla so you do a chain reaction that is self-sustaining, blabla standing for big enough mass or using mirrors to keep reflect the neutrons back into the mass
And sciencefags expect us to believe this low effort trash.

Whats the next move? What will happen next?

>>1826255
new thread

>>1825714
Dancing by Aaron Smith

>>1825010
whiteness isn't real. pan everopean identity is a spook. it's impossible to be racist to white people because they don't even exist. people who think of themselves as white have been indoctrinated.