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No.1823998
No Iranian Ever Called Me Tankie
No.1823999
No Iranian Ever Called Me Multipolarista
No.1824002
Khamas made me shit my pants!
No.1824004
Creepy Joe touched me.
No.1824005
The first time a foreign state has intervened in part for Palestinians. A beautiful sight. Everyone bashes Iran for its internal problems (and rightly so) but no government has done more for Palestinians at its own expense than the Islamic Republic of Iran.
No.1824011
>>1824005Agreed, this absolutely right, and regardless of intervening on the part of Palestinians, they were justly defending and retaliting against a prior attack on their soil (embassy).
No.1824012
From Resistance News Network:
In contrast to the $1.35 billion that the IOF spent on air defense in failed interceptions tonight, the total cost of the Iranian missiles and drones was just $35 million.
In other words, the cost to Iran was just 2.6% of the cost to the zionist entity (i.e 37 times more for the zionist entity).
In just a few hours, over 67% of the IOF's monthly military budget vanished.
No.1824016
Iran says it informed US attack on Israel would be โlimitedโ
Hossein Amir-Abdollahian, Iranโs foreign minister, just spoke in a meeting with foreign ambassadors in Tehran. Here is what he said:
We informed the US our operation against Israel will be โlimitedโ and for self-defence
We donโt seek to expand conflict in the region
We have informed the US weโll target its bases if Iran is targeted
About 72 hours prior to the operation, we informed our neighbours and countries in the region that Iranโs response, as part of a legitimate defence, was certain and definitive.
The security of neighbouring countries is top of Iranโs priorities.
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Iran provided โan off-ramp to pause escalationโ
Analysts suggest Iranโs slow-moving drone attack was calibrated to represent a show of power but also allow some time for defensive measures.
โIt appears that Iran telegraphed its attack on Israel to demonstrate it can strike using different capabilities, to complicate the [Israeli armyโs] ability to neutralise the assault, but also to provide an off-ramp to pause escalation,โ said Nishank Motwani, senior analyst at the Australian Strategic Policy Institute in Washington, DC.
โTehran can escalate if it chooses to across a range of vectors,โ said Motwani, including via Lebanonโs armed group Hezbollah, sea attacks, โor hitting soft Israeli targets globallyโ
No.1824019
Complete media blackout on the bombing of Iran's embassy in Syria.
Westoid press implies all of this was unprovoked.
No.1824021
>>1824012Dronesisters, I kneel
No.1824022
So the Israelis are lying saying they shot down 99% of 300 drones and missiles, as there are ample videos showing way more than 3 hits. Are they trying to chicken out of retaliating? Funny how all of them were claiming they would flatten Tehran yesterday.
No.1824026
>>1824012And America just passed an emergency spending bill to replace every munition Israel spent last night in a special session of Congress.
No.1824027
F-35s are gone:)
No.1824030
How is Bibi doing is he still foaming from the mouth wanting to attack Israel or did Genocide Joe actually tamper the Blood lust of bibi to just attack Palestinians instead.
No.1824035
>>1824026And where will the munitions come from? The same factories that are tasked to capacity producing weapons for Ukraine?
No.1824036
>>1822954So does Iran posses nukes or not?
No.1824037
>>1824012That missile attack costing just 35 million ks the dumbest shit I ever heard.
No.1824040
๐ฎ๐ฑ๐ฎ๐ทโก๏ธCNN, citing an Israeli official: Israel will respond to the Iranian attack, but the scope of this response has not yet been determined
No.1824043
>>1824019I saw it mentioned on a bunch of MSM outlets, theyโre not completely blacking it out, theyโre burying the lede
No.1824046
>>1824030Comrade, you ain't seen nothin yet
>>1824040 No.1824047
>>1824022They need to seem invincible at all times. Ita their obsession
No.1824048
>>1824046Ah I see, wish they linked the CNN source but I just woke up after the "Fun" that was yesterday watching randos from Western Media trying to figure out what Iran was trying to do. Bibi foaming at the mouth on Twitter was funny but scary knowing that he would start a regional war to keep himself in power.
No.1824049
>>1824022The fascist state is censoring themselves to make it look like their army is made of รbermenschen super soldiers and not genocidal dipshits with a lust for blood and the best tech Uncle Sam can finance
No.1824055
Hah listening to NPR right now and this glowie guy started by saying.
>last night was a huge loss for Iran.
No.1824058
>>1824055lmao Iran forced Israel to show them their exact anti-missile capabilities and in the process spent a fraction of what Israel spent
No.1824059
>>1824055Oh yeah and he said they threw everything they had at Israel. Lol. Iran is out of missiles guys.
No.1824061
>>1824059then the US should have no problem sailing an aircraft carrier into the Persian Gulf, right? Right? Go on guys, get underway…
No.1824063
>>1824059>Iran is out of missiles guys.I have heard this somewhere before
No.1824064
>>1824055But it was known that Iran wasn't going to full on bombard the shit out of Israel as of Yet. As this was simply a relation, its not like they were going to send everything they had. Since they needed to see Israel's anti-Missile defenses which would be overwhelmed very easily from a true valley of missiles.
No.1824065
>>1824042>nothingburger>100's of 1000's of dead civilians and children>hospitals demolished, doctors murdered>aid workers murdered>flour massacresthese are crimes against the entire human race and the dignity of life itself. are you fucked in the head? every day we see new depths of inhumanity. none of this has been "nothing".
No.1824069
>>1824065it's not happening if you have to go to work tomorrow
No.1824074
>>1824065calm down I meant in regards to Iran's response. The entirety of the last thread was "nothing ever happens" and that is the opposite of what has happened
No.1824079
>>1824078nobody here is denying that.
No.1824084
>>1824078better than just being a regular pervert like zizek
No.1824085
>>1824078My electrons crave liberation from their orbits
No.1824090
>>1824086Yeah and also rape her and sell her organs to hungry gazans. Deng would want this.
No.1824094
>>1824090>rape hersorry, i should have clarified i don't serve in the IDF
No.1824096
>>1824022Paper tigers have only paper and no tiger
No.1824099
>>1824056This is just bullying
No.1824101
>>1824078>Horny for apocalypseDat's right. I wish for the world to come and revelation. That being multipolar world.
No.1824102
>>1824078 ลฝiลพek may prefer playing as the Allies.
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No.1824105
>>1824103That's the long term goal, multipolarity and
total US empire death is very necessary stepping stone for humanity's development
No.1824106
>>1824104I saw some sources say that Iran said that no hypersonics were used
No.1824108
>>1824078I just want to be able to spend my working life working towards something that makes the world better, rather than at best making money for the people who deserve it least, and at worst making the world much, much worse. And I want the same for my comrades. I don't think that's too much to ask.
No.1824110
>>1824106Well that is their version of RT. I assume they wouldn't be saying things the government doesn't approve.
No.1824112
>>1824103i'm gonna be honest, after all the things that happened since 1991, after seeing all the destruction that happened to worker movements, all the mass hysteria even today trying to blame communism on everything bad, even the things unassociated with leftism, i do not think it's possible anymore, retarded american politcs have taken over the world
i am completely defeated, if i know i won't have world communism, i want in the least, complete burger annihilation
No.1824114
guys, what the fuck is a hypersonic missile?
No.1824115
>>1824114A missile that goes really fast.
No.1824120
>>1824114missile that goes mach 5 or faster at altitudes of less than 90km (~56mi)
No.1824122
>>1824115>>1824120sounds very costy, we have reached that technology already being available to anti-westerners? how does it work?
No.1824124
>>1824121Bro that's just regular Super Sonic can't even get the right Hyper Sonic picture how sad.
No.1824125
>>1824115>A missile that goes really fast.Some ballistic missiles do get called hypersonic because they go that fast *while they are falling*. But the real treat are the cruise missiles, which can go that fast and also choose their trajectories is much less predictable ways.
No.1824127
>>1824122Scamjets. The West doesn't have any. China, Russia, and Iran claim to have them and the west doubts them because they don't have any.
No.1824130
>>1824126>>1824121I haven't played or watched sonic since the 90s.
No.1824133
>>1824112Comrade,
There's no turning back now. The ice has been cracked, the way has been shown. The road is opened. The events of 1917 have irreversibly changed human history and things will never be the same. The tragedy of 1991 and the storm thereafter were absolutely devastating… but somehow, we have to rebuild, we have to start somewhere.
It has been a long, long, long march from the defeats of the past. But the dream is not dead. It can never die. We fight for the same cause of humanity as those in Paris in 1871, in Moscow in 1917, in Saigon in 1975, in Kathmandu in 2006.. and in Cairo in 1159 BC, when the first workers went on strike. The way has been shown, the road is open, all you need to do is follow in the footsteps of those who came before us, correct their mistakes and copy their successes.
Chin up, anon. The winter has been long, but the sky is clearing. Today is the first day since October that there are no planes over Gaza. The contradictions are sharpening again- and there is no way to resolve them but by the only method we've known since Marx.
We'll win, Anon. But only if we want to.
No.1824136
<Israeli Firms Are Working Overtime to Sell Stolen Palestinian Land to US Jews<The real estate events peddling land in Israeli settlements in the West Bank appear to flout US and international law.https://truthout.org/articles/israeli-firms-are-working-overtime-to-sell-stolen-palestinian-land-to-us-jews/
>Your chance to own a piece of the Holy Land!โ exclaims the cheerful advertising copy on a real estate website aimed at attracting buyers in the U.S. and Canada to purchase land located in Israel and in a number of Israeli settlements in the West Bank. The site describes five land sale events that occurred this spring in the U.S. and Canada.
>Another land sale event held in Baltimore invited attendees to โBuy Your Home in Israel Now!โ But, as with the other events, attendees couldnโt just be anyone interested in some freshly stolen land. You have to be Jewish, but not just any kind of Jewish.
>Greg Kaplan, a local Jewish community member who wanted to learn more about these restrictive events and who tried signing up for the April 1 land sale event in Baltimore, which was hosted by the Jerusalem-based CapitIL Real Estate Agency, told me:
>> I got a call from Shmuly Eisenmann of CapitIL. He asked me where I daven, who the rabbi is there, and for the rabbiโs number, seeming incredulous that I wouldnโt just have the rabbiโs >>number stored in my phone. He said he would check on me with the rabbi and asked if the rabbi would know who I was. I said probably not because I donโt go to shul that much. He >>asked if there was someone at another shul who could vouch for me.
>Kaplan was not allowed into the event, which was scheduled to take place at Shomrei Emunah, โa full-service shul and Jewish centerโ in Baltimore whose list of speakers and scholars in residence includes an IDF lieutenant colonel.
>Gillian Stoll, a member of the New Jersey chapter of IfNotNow, who tried to register for the Teaneck, New Jersey, event on March 31, received a series of phone calls. On the first call, Stoll admits to being caught off guard by a slew of questions including the name of her temple and rabbi, his direct number as well as what the reading was at the temple that week. She gave the name of her old rabbi and temple, and the man calling seemed satisfied for the moment, offering that they had to cancel previously โbecause of protestors.โ She then โgot a second call from another not so nice guy saying he called the rabbi and he hadnโt heard of me โฆ and asked how old I was โฆ and if Iโd been to Israel.โ Stoll was also not allowed into the event.
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>>1824151reddit brain tumor
No.1824166
WorldNews bots unsurprisingly toeing the line.
I've spent a week and a half waiting for the Iranian response and it's petered out. Time to go back to real life.
No.1824168
>>1824166Now we wait for the Israeli response to the response.
No.1824171
>>1824168Biden's whipped Netanyahu, who got what he wanted from this little drama. It's over.
No.1824173
>>1824145feels good to know I'm fighting for the same cause as the dudes who went on strike building the fucking pyramids
>>1824151eat my hot load redditoid
No.1824177
>>1824171https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-68737710Israel's potential response to Iran's attacks could be "significant" even as the US attempts to dissuade them from widening the conflict, Mick Mulroy, a former Deputy Secretary of Defence for the Middle East, tells me.
According to Mulroy, the Iranian attack could have killed "many" civilians and caused severe damage to Israeli civilian and commercial infrastructure.
Mulroy adds that he believes Israel will "likely" choose to respond directly in Iran, although the US will try to de-escalate the situation before that takes place.
"It could be as significant as striking suspected Iranian nuclear weapons facilities or going after their defence industrial base," he says.
"If they do either or both successfully, Iran [will have] made a strategic mistake in mounting this attack," Mulroy says.
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Not So Fast Bro
No.1824178
>>1824176So he is saying the strike killed someone then?
No.1824180
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/388466Israelโs Foreign Ministry released an official statement on Sunday following the large-scale and unprecedented attack - consisting of hundreds of drones, cruise missiles and ballistic missiles - launched by Iran against the State of Israel.
"The attack, which originated from Iranian territory, was supplemented by additional terror attacks by militias in Iraq, the Houthis in Yemen and Hezbollah in Lebanon, all targeting the State of Israel. This attack proves once what Israel has been saying for years: Iran is the one behind the terrorist attacks in the region, and is also the greatest threat to regional stability and world order."
The Foreign Ministry continued to say that, "Iran attacked Israel, and it has attacked the Gulf states in the past, threatens Jordan, threatens the US, dispatches weapons for use in the war on Ukraine and endangers world peace. This is precisely why Iran must never obtain nuclear weapons."
Strong condemnations of the brutal Iranian attack were heard from around the world tonight. The world stands with Israel and supports its right to defend itself.
The Foreign Ministry added that, "Iran must pay a price for its aggression. The initial price must be the immediate recognition of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps - which launched the extensive terrorist attack last night - as a terrorist organization. Following the ballistic missile, cruise missile and drone attack launched by Iran, painful sanctions must be imposed on Iran, including but not limited to the field of missiles."
Concluding, the Foreign Ministry reiterated that, "Just like any other country, Israel has the right to defend itself in the face of Iran's massive attack. Israel successfully defended itself against Iran's aggression and will continue to do so in the future."
No.1824182
Explainer: How did Iranโs retaliatory military action against Zionist entity unfold?
In a stunning exhibition of its phenomenal military prowess, Iranโs Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) carried out an unprecedented military operation in response to the Israeli regimeโs terrorist attack on the Iranian consulate in the Syrian capital of Damascus on April 1.
The retaliatory strikes came after two weeks of strategic patience and meticulous planning and execution was just perfect, taking the regime and its Western backers by surprise.
The Israeli attack on the Iranian consulate in Damascus had resulted in the martyrdom of Brigadier General Mohammad Reza Zahedi, a senior commander of the IRGC's Quds Force, his deputy, General Mohammad Hadi Haji Rahimi, and five other military officers.
After the cowardly attack, which breached international law and the Vienna Conventions, Iranian leaders vowed a โdecisive responseโ exercising their right to self-defense.
"In response to the Zionist regimeโs numerous crimes, including the attack on the consular section of Iranโs Embassy in Damascus and the martyrdom of a number of our countryโs commanders and military advisors in Syria, the IRGCโs Aerospace Division launched tens of missiles and drones against certain targets inside the occupied territories," the IRGC statement noted early on Sunday.
Iranโs foreign ministry in a separate statement warned against further attacks on Iranian soil.
Pertinently, the โOperation True Promiseโ, which was launched just before midnight on Saturday and continued until the wee hours of Sunday morning, left the regime paralyzed.
Here is how it unfolded, with cyber-attacks followed by military strikes.
The multiple drone and missile attacks were preceded by a series of hacking attacks on the Zionist regime's power grid and radar systems, which led to massive power outages.
A major blackout was reported in many districts of Tel Aviv due to the major cyber attack on the electricity infrastructure there, media reports stated.
The Iranian "Cyber Av3ngers" hacking group published a statement claiming responsibility for cutting off electricity in various parts of the occupied territories.
The group stressed that it carried out the cyber attack from the south to the north in response to the Zionist regime's crimes against the Palestinian people in Gaza.
Earlier in the evening, it was also reported that the Zionist regime's radars were under a hacker attack, which forced the closure of the airspace over occupied territories.
The Iranian hacker group Hanzaleh Bammad claimed responsibility for it, publishing images and stating that their action was a response to the Israeli regime's recent attack on the Iranian consulate.
At around 11:00 PM Iran time, the IRGC aerospace division officially launched a retaliatory military operation against the Zionist regime, carrying out at least four waves of drone attacks.
The first wave included dozens of Shahed-136 kamikaze drones, estimated at about 100 pieces, whose swarm was also recorded by private camera footage in Iran and Iraq.
Shahed-136 is a delta-wing shaped, low-observable and low-signature loitering munition with a range of 2,000 km that carries a warhead of 50 kg.
This type of unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) was previously used to destroy the headquarters of terrorists in the northern region of Iraq, but this is the first time Iran used it in large numbers and with a range of over 1,000 kilometers.
Shahed-136 uses an Iranian-made piston engine and has a speed of about 200 km/h, which means that it needed a flight of about five hours before impact.
After the first wave, three more wave attacks followed at intervals of about half an hour, and it is estimated that a total of 400 to 500 drones were launched.
The next step in the retaliatory military operation was the launch of a series of cruise and ballistic missiles, which were reportedly accompanied by simultaneous drone and missile strikes by the Axis of Resistance groups from Iraq, Yemen and Lebanon.
It has not yet been officially announced which missile models were involved in the hugely successful operation, although at least some of the ballistic missiles were reportedly Kheibar Shekan.
Kheibar Shekan is a solid-fuel medium-range ballistic missile with a range of 1,450 km and a half-ton warhead, notable for high maneuverability in the landing stage.
There are also reports that the Fattah hypersonic missiles were also used, which is difficult to assess based on the available night footage because their terminal velocity is similar to the latest ballistic missiles, as well as whether and how much they maneuvered.
Tehran has not announced the target locations, and although the Zionist authorities have appealed to the population not to publish videos of Iranian strikes, dozens of them have been leaked on the Internet, testifying to extensive and precise hits.
As correctly stated in a previous Press TV website analysis, the main targets were the military bases of the Zionist regime, from the Golan Heights to the Negev desert.
Scott Ritter, a US military expert, stated on the X platform (formerly known as Twitter) that at least seven hypersonic missiles had hit Nevatim Air Base and none was intercepted.
This air base is located in the Negev desert and houses the Zionist F-35 planes that were used in the terrorist attack on the Iranian consulate in Damascus.
Several private camera footage, taken from a distance, testify to a series of fast and powerful hits by ballistic or hypersonic missiles, once again proving the shortcomings of the much-exaggerated Israeli air defense (military) systems, including the so-called Iran Dome.
The air base also houses F-15 and F-16 units, as well as large warehouses of expensive multibillion-dollar weapons, so it was one of the primary targets of the precise Iranian strikes.
The footages confirm that Ramon Air Base, another major base in the Negev, was also hit by multiple missiles, leaving a trail of destruction.
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>>1824177I don't believe it. If they walk away now it's having won support for their Rafah invasion.
I'm willing to bet Israel won't respond.
No.1824186
Chief of Staff of the Armed Forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Major General Mohammed Bagheri:
We used ballistic and cruise missiles in the attack on the occupation entity.
The operation was planned to target the air base from which "israeli" aircraft which attacked our consulate launched from.
Direct hits were achieved in the attack, which we intended to be punitive, targeting only military bases.
America was aware of the targeting of our consulate in Damascus and it was the one that gave the green light to the occupation entity.
If the zionist entity responds to Iran's operation, our next response will definitely be much broader than this operation.
We sent a message to the United States that if it cooperates with "israel" in its upcoming actions, its bases will not enjoy any security.
Commander-in-chief of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, Major General Hossein Salami:
We have established a new equation with the zionist entity, responding directly from Iranian territory to any aggression from it.
We have started a new chapter in the confrontation with the zionist enemy.
Overcoming the zionist and American defense systems in the region and hitting the specified targets was not easy.
Our plans were innovative and managed to penetrate the layers of the zionist defense systems and those of their American and French allies.
Our operations were limited and solely a response to the zionist entity's attack on our consulate in Damascus.
The operation was very successful and exceeded our expectations.
The zionist entity must learn the lesson and the moral from what happened.
Zionist media is buzzing and boasting of the news about the first public military cooperation between Jordan and the zionist entity, considering them "saviors" for aiding in the futile confrontation of the Iranian attack on zionist military bases.
Jordanian air defenses wounded a number of Jordanians by shooting down drones and missiles while defending the zionist entity.
The Jordanian authorities also allowed IOF warplanes complete freedom of operation in Jordanian airspace.
Iranโs military response to Israel marks the first overt public military cooperation between Jordan and Israel in the face of Iranโs attacks, and Israeli media is boasting about it. Not only did the Kingdom open its airspace to Israel, but worked tirelessly to intercept Iranian drones and missiles headed to Israel, along with the US, UK, and France.
Israeli Yedioth Ahronoth reported that โJordan intercepted dozens of Iranian drones heading for Israel overnight in an unprecedented act of cooperation with Israel.โ
Jordan has already worked to actively intercept attacks launched by the Iraqi Resistance throughout Al-Aqsa Flood.
Although not confirmed by the Jordanian government, the news also has not been denied. Not only were the interceptions spotted in the sky by Jordanians, but there were local reports of injuries sustained by Jordanians due to fragments falling as a result of those interceptions.
Chief of Staff of the Armed Forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Major General Mohammed Bagheri:
The operation included targeting the "israeli" intelligence headquarters on Mount Hermon [in the occupied Golan] involved in the attack on our consulate.
The operation also targeted the "Nevatim" base from which "israeli" planes launched attacks on our consulate in Damascus.
We have destroyed both headquarters.
The cost of the IOF's failed air defenses tonight against the Iranian operation was $1.35 billion, not including damage to infrastructure and military bases, according to zionist sources.
"Ramon" Airport in southern occupied Palestine is still closed after being targeted by Iranian missiles, and there are no flights to "Eilat," according to zionist sources.
Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi:
The Iranian armed forces taught the zionist enemy a lesson.
Any new reckless response from the enemy will be met with a stronger and harsher response.
The defensive action carried out by the armed forces is a natural right to legitimate defense of our country in response to the zionist aggression on our interests.
Last night's combined operations carry a message of strength and power to the Islamic nation and a message of fear and humiliation to the enemies of humanity.
Iran has used all regional and international capabilities in recent months to warn the international community of the ineffectiveness of the Security Council.
Yesterday's operation comes in the context of defending Iran's sovereignty and national interests, punishing the enemies, and enhancing regional security.
The Iranian action was smart and calculated, and the Iranian drones and missiles targeted zionist military bases.
We consider peace and stability in the region essential for our national security and will not hesitate to make any effort to revive stability and peace.
The zionist entity is the one that threatens international security and stability in the region through its continuous violations and brutal crimes over the past 6 months in Gaza.
Resistance is the key word for reviving peace and regional security and ending the occupation and terrorism in all its forms.
In contrast to the $1.35 billion that the IOF spent on air defense in failed interceptions tonight, the total cost of the Iranian missiles and drones was just $35 million.
In other words, the cost to Iran was just 2.6% of the cost to the zionist entity (i.e 37 times more for the zionist entity).
In just a few hours, over 67% of the IOF's monthly military budget vanished.
Zionist sources report that Hezbollah fired over 100 rockets last night from southern Lebanon simultaneously with the Iranian response targeting the zionist entity.
No.1824187
>>1824184I would have thought Israel would just take the L, since the attack was in defence and a response to an previous attack by Israel, but by what the media is showing, even with Israel saving its face by reporting the drones were shit and nothing happened look how strong we are … yet still saying we will attack! and with states such as the UK not even officialy mentioning the primary motivator for this Iranian attack, suggests to me all together Israel will respond especially so far the MSM is hyping that Israel will, even with the US trying to de esceclate, are they? they sent ships into the red sea, they sent planes over the gulf.
No.1824190
>>1824187God damn uygha use some punctuation in your sentences. Or are you the anon that k-holed and have come back up?
No.1824196
Salfit Brigade (Martyr Omar Abu Leila Brigade):
In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
โFight them, Allah will punish them at your hands, disgrace them, grant you victory over them, and heal the hearts of a believing people.โ
This is the Truth of Allah Almighty.
Our Sheikh Al-Arouri said this:
โYou will not know where the new resistance will come from, who will teach you a lesson that the will of our people will not be defeated.โ
The Salfit Brigade declares its full responsibility for yesterdayโs operation at the entrance to the town of Sinjil, after one of our resistance heroes sniped a female soldier after the settlersโ attack on the people of the village of Sinjil.
The resistance fighter withdrew peacefully. We hope that all the villages surrounding the village of Sinjil will delete all camera recordings.
May Allah not preserve a rifle that does not know its compass and does not think about clashing with the occupier.
Your brothers, Salfit Brigade.
Al-Asifah Forces:
In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
Relying on Allah and with His help, a group from Al-Asifah Forces, the military wing of the Fatah Intifada Movement in occupied Palestine, carried out a resistance operation early this Sunday morning, April 14th, at 2:30 AM.
The operation targeted zionist soldiers at a checkpoint near the village of Sinjil, north of Ramallah, resulting in a serious injury to a zionist female border guard, who was subsequently transported to a zionist hospital.
With Allah's help and care, the group members safely returned to their bases.
This heroic operation is part of the Battle of Al-Aqsa Flood and falls within the context of the ongoing struggle and clash with the occupation forces.
And indeed, it is a revolution until victory.
The General Command of Al-Asifah Forces, the military wing of the Fatah Intifada Movement, occupied Palestine.
[To me, it seems the likely reason for two groups claiming the operation is that the operator was a member of both]
No.1824205
>>1824180>"The attack, which originated from Iranian territory, was supplemented by additional terror attacks by militias in Iraq, the Houthis in Yemen and Hezbollah in Lebanon, all targeting the State of Israel. This attack proves once what Israel has been saying for years: Iran is the one behind the terrorist attacks in the region, and is also the greatest threat to regional stability and world order."Jeez its like you all keep geocoding and provoking everyone around you that hates you so much.
No.1824207
>>1824192Singers at a Palestinian wedding encourage Putin to increase attacks in Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRXEUss8U0U&t=21 No.1824208
>>1824035Donโt you get it? When you digitally print money and then shout at the money (that doesnโt even physically exist) then the thing you wish for will materialize infront of you.
For example Bibi has been screaming non-stop the past day and has singlehandedly restocked all C-RAM supplies.
No.1824209
>>1824176>UNLIMITED aid!!Lol, take my everything, Israel
No.1824210
>>1824199they are probably all dead now
No.1824211
>>1824210you really had to say that?
No.1824214
>>1824210Actually no, only about 1/50 gazans have died.
No.1824215
>>1824214I meant the cats and definitely at least one person in those videos is dead
No.1824220
>>1824217The unfortunate truth is that most Arabs hate communism because they're devoutly Muslim and they are, on the whole, allies of convenience (much like Putin's Russia) rather than dependable fighters for socialism.
No.1824225
>>1824220i had to talk to a few internet ayrabs, thing is, the arabs from iraq syria the levant excluding palestine and lebanon, are the ones who say that it contradicts allah or communism is bad because Putin, or communist countries enforcing always enforcing state athiesm, with others talking about the soviet afghan war and how the soviets saw arabs and afghans as savages needed to conquered, just like imperialists
thing is, the guys from saudi and the gulf, the ones you expect to BE against socialism from a religious fanatic standpoint, didn't bring up allah, just the classic conservative talk, killed bazillion starvation, doesn't work, will only make everyone poor, will antagonize the americans who will pull out investments, can't make high quality iphones under communism
No.1824247
>>1824188>The martyred child had survived a previous zionist aggression on his family home, which resulted in the martyrdom of several of his family members.>parachuted aid box fell on himHow do they manage to kill people with aid boxes. What the fuck
No.1824254
>>1824225Did you went to reactionary bubbles?? Most of the arabs i met arent that devoutely anti-communist neither communist but they are anti western.
The thing is that they do still have consciousness of western imperialism and how capitalism expanded to them, and how the west ruined their stability. Like africans have consciousness for imperialism and the expansion of capitalism, they know why they are on the situation.
Unlike europe and north america where that counsciousness of class or nation developed due to them being imperialists.
Some of most ardent leftists i saw are most of "le jungle uncivilized people" because they directly faces the enemy.
No.1824261
>>1823997Second video in op is actually some Argentinian teeny boppers rushing to get a glimpse of some celebrity, lol.
https://twitter.com/Shayan86/status/1779372922596958687 No.1824268
>>1824036Not officially. Though they have stated that they can make it happen in a few months if they wanted to start today.
No.1824272
>>1824037Some Iranian homemade missiles cost about $300,000 each. I am not sure what were the missiles they fired, but most Iranian made missiles are pretty cheap.
The "expensive" ones for them are those boat from Russia, but even those are relatively cheaper compared to American ones.
Even if we assume it cost x10 what they stated, it is still cheaper than whatever spent stopping them.
No.1824275
>>1824064It would have also if US, UK, France, Germany, Jordan, and Egypt didn't participate in intercepting these missiles.
No.1824277
>>1824103leftypolers have abandoned leftism a long time ago. most people on this site could barely call themselves socdems
No.1824279
>>1824277communism is dead anyway and a couple of chanfags and reddit rejects on the internet arent vgoing to revive it,
No.1824280
>>1824182>The Iranian "Cyber Av3ngers" hacking group published a statement claiming responsibility for cutting off electricity in various parts of the occupied territories.>The multiple drone and missile attacks were preceded by a series of hacking attacks on the Zionist regime's power grid and radar systems, which led to massive power outages.damn is that for real ? always thought "cyberattacks" were kinda overblown
No.1824281
>>1824106The least we can confirm from footage is that missiles actually hit.
Anything else is FOMO FUD
No.1824297
>>1824280Russian hackers managed to blackmail colonial pipeline and extract bitcoin money from Americans once. It's believable that Israelis aren't any wiser
No.1824299
>>1824184They would want to distract the media from Gaza if they are going to do the Rafah invasion, and the Iranian front is prime for that.
No.1824303
>>1824101The multipolar world is already here, has been for two years officially. AmeriKKKa is defeated so completely it has to grovel before Houthis. It's in the process of destroying itself, which was especially clear with the Texas situation. You had nothing to do with this fact.
Now adapt to this new world and start thinking in its terms.
No.1824311
>>1824188>The IOF allowed women and children under 14 years old to return from the south of the Gaza Strip to their homes in the north.The IOF itself denied that and said that these reports are false, and that the north is still an "active warzone."
Those who crossed bypassed the Nahal brigade in the dividing border the IOF created between north and south.
No.1824313
>>1824205Manufactured victimization.
No.1824314
>>1824197this just makes me depressed
No.1824317
>>1824176b-but guys he'll turn against Bibi because he's all about deals!
No.1824322
>>1824317>b-but guys he'll turn against Bibi because he's all about deals!Nobody said that.
Stop arguing with ghosts in your head.
No.1824329
>>1824220Nah, the unfortunate truth is that the taste of socialism they got was literal military coups and rule, which was rather authoritarian.
The only difference now is that existing military coups and rule are sponsored by the US, which they also hate.
If anything, there is ripe opportunity for communism if the cards are played right and any revolution is organically made through organizing grassroot movements rather than Soviet sponsored military coups.
No.1824338
>>1824247Incompetence, until malice is confirmed.
No.1824352
>>1824338It's not the first time, and both Israelis and Americans are managing to kill Palestinians with aid
No.1824369
G7 leaders agreed today to "use all channels of influence on 'israel' so that it does not launch a retaliatory attack on Iran."
The IOF decided to send two brigades of reserve soldiers to the Gaza Strip in the coming days, following widespread withdrawals last week.
No.1824372
>>1824369World War 3? Cancelled
The Happening? Not Happening
Work Tomorrow? Forever
No.1824377
>>1824369The fact that America, Jordan and Europeans saved Israel last night puts them in a good position.
Depends how psychotic the war cabinet is I guess.
No.1824378
>>1824377I think they are gonna chicken out since all they've been talking about is sanctions:
>>1824180 No.1824379
>>1824311If Nahal birgades territory can be bypassed with minimal casualties (as it seems happened today) more and more people are going to attempt it, so either Israel wipes them all out or the population will move back north, albeit slowly
No.1824387
>>1824378The fact Gallant is running around trying to build a long term war coalition with the countries who saved them certainly indicates they're worried and understand they can't defend themselves, let alone win a war, without extensive help.
No.1824389
>>1824387Ah, but Israel doesn't want to dezionize, it wants to continue stealing land, and to do that they need to fight Iran. And that Israel's "allies" want to avoid. They want "a right to defend itself", but no "a right to secure Israel's borders outside of Israel", so to say
No.1824390
>>1824372The power of capitalism to avoid WW3 for profits?
No.1824393
>>1824372>>1824390Or simply put, the profits that can be made from a WW3 starting now are not worth it, or not realized. Old people like the status quo, so they want to keep it.
No.1824395
>>1824390The power of Biden avoiding flushing US global political-economic control down the toilet.
Had Trump been in power he'd have greenlit the Israeli response and there'd be a regional war in the Middle East by now.
No.1824398
>>1824390Hegemon is cowardly and self-serving, hegemon doesn't let the dogs to dictate it's policies.
No.1824399
testing testing have i been banned
No.1824401
According to Al Jazeera the Israeli cabinet are debating the response.
No.1824403
>>1824395>The power of Biden avoiding flushing US global political-economic control down the toilet. How can we gaslight him to?
>Had Trump been in power he'd have greenlit the Israeli response and there'd be a regional war in the Middle East by now.Funnily enough, Trump would have been more controlling and demanding Netanyahu stop.
I remember reading an email on Wikileaks where Hillary said something along the lines of Democrats are better for Israel because they don't control its actions as much as Republicans. Citing the 1991 Gulf War and how Bush senior told the Israelis to never retaliate if Iraq shoots scud missiles at Israel.
Another example of such I know of is how Reagan told Israelis to stop butchering in Lebanon or he'll stop US arms shipments and they stopped within 20mins.
Biden has been pretty soft on Israel so far, and we've only gotten rhetoric after months of protests. He only managed to get vaguely harsh in that phone call with Netanyahu after AIPAC (I think? Or some other pro-Israeli group) publicly said Netanyahu is not good for Israel.
No.1824404
>>1824401Yesterday night it was approved, now they are debating?
No.1824409
>>1824401Of course they are. Either they accept humiliation that allies demand them to accept, or they push their luck and beg USA to cover the defence of zionist aggression
No.1824410
It says a lot about Western Media's political bias that they speak from a pro Israel perspective. The West just wants foothold over the Middle East which is why they are backing Israel.
No.1824411
>>1824401Yeah, obviously far-right members want the utmost response, that goes even beyond the attack.
If I remember correctly, the debate is centered on whether the attack should be based on what was fired, or what actually hit.
Another point is whether the Iranian strikes that hit Dimona nuclear facility was intentional or not.
No.1824413
>>1824401>According to Al Jazeera the Israeli cabinet are debating the response.War cabinet(++) AFAIK, not the whole cabinet.
No.1824414
>>1824404On the scale and targets.
No.1824418
>>1824404they approved to debate the details of an exploratory committee for their response
No.1824419
>>1824411They'll accept it, eat shit, and be thankful they're still in power.
No.1824427
>>1824052Imagine the psychological effect this must have a on settler. You spend your whole life touching yourself to the idea of the Iron Domeโข and then this shit happens.
No.1824429
So is Iran in the right or the wrong here? I from my perspective just want to see this war end and all sides reach peace, as unlikely as this is. Israel is the one who made the first problem in the first place by oppressing Palestine, right?
No.1824432
>>1824429No-one is 'in the right' except the working class of the world. Israel and the US are definitely far, far more in the wrong than Iran, Hezbollah or Hamas though.
No.1824433
>>1824429Israel atacked iran First, they have the right to retaliate under international law
No.1824441
>>1824368amazingly autistic. you'd expect the scribing to automated these days
>>1824390WW3 would push RoP up bigly
No.1824446
>>1824429https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/4/2/who-was-mohammad-reza-zahedi-the-iranian-general-assassinated-by-israel
>Tehran, Iran โ Brigadier General Mohammad Reza Zahedi, a senior commander in Iranโs Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), has been assassinated by Israel in Syria.>He was killed with six other people, including another Iranian general, when Israeli warplanes fired multiple missiles at the Iranian consulate in Damascus on Monday, levelling it.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Iranian_nuclear_scientists#:~:text=On%2027%20November%202020%2C%20the,Israel%20was%20behind%20Fakhrizadeh%27s%20assassination.
>Between 2010 and 2012, four Iranian nuclear scientists (Masoud Ali-Mohammadi, Majid Shahriari, Darioush Rezaeinejad, and Mostafa Ahmadi Roshan) were killed in foreign-linked assassinations. Rezaeinejad was shot dead by gunmen on motorcycles, while Shahriari and Ahmadi Roshan were killed by explosives attached to their cars>The Iranian government accused Israel of complicity in the killings in order to disrupt Iran's nuclear programhttps://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/4/2/attack-on-iran-consulate-in-damascus-what-do-we-know
>Iran has promised a response after an alleged Israeli attack on its consulate killed seven including two top commanders.>Brigadier General Mohammad Reza Zahedi, a senior commander in the Quds Force of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) and his deputy General Mohammad Hadi Hajriahimi were killed in Mondayโs attack, the IRGC said in a statement.>Israel has long targeted Iranโs military installations in Syria and those of its proxies but Mondayโs attack was the first time it had targeted the embassy compound itself. No.1824447
>>1824432Is Israel even more in the wrong than Hamas? I thought Hamas was a terror organization, but then again Israel has been oppressing Palestinians for decades, so that makes them both quite bad.
No.1824449
>>1824447Hamas is not doing genocide
Israel is doing genocide
they are not the same
No.1824456
>>1824449Since I'm too lazy to search it up online what kind of genocide is happening? A cultural genocide? A physical genocide?
No.1824458
>>1824456>A cultural genocide?Happening since Israel's inception.
>A physical genocide?Currently ongoing.
No.1824459
>>1824456It is now clear that Israel is engaging in a genocide of the Palestinian people. As reported by Al Jazeera, the Israeli state has โloosenedโ its military rules of engagement, essentially giving its soldiers the green light to kill anyone they encounter inside the Gaza Strip as part of their ground operations. Israeli politicians and soldiers are talking openly about turning Gaza into dust, eliminating Palestinians, and imagining Israeli settlers living on land that used to be called Gaza. Palestinians are being deliberately deprived of all the basic necessities for life, including food, water, shelter and medical care. Bombs from the air are indiscriminately killing and maiming Palestinians. Palestinians are being encouraged to leave their lands and homes in northern Gaza and head towards the south โ Israel clearly wants to colonise northern Gaza and turn it into a security or military zone, permanently expelling the Palestinians who currently live there.
No.1824461
>>1824427You just go straight into imaginary world of Ukraine-like battlefield reports
No.1824462
>>1824459That's pretty much horrifying. This may not be holocaust level, but that sounds like it's getting up there. And western countries still back Israel after all of that?
No.1824469
> And western countries still back Israel after all of that?https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2023/11/2/a-genocide-is-under-way-in-palestineI am not sure that we have ever seen a case of genocide being supported by this many actors, openly and actively. The majority of institutions in North America, Western Europe and elsewhere are either actively participating in this genocide, or completely silent and are thus complicit.
For genocide to happen, two critical elements are needed: the infrastructural and material capabilities to commit the genocide and the ability to conceal the genocide by calling it something other than what it is. The West is participating in both of these critical elements.
In terms of material capabilities, the United States empire has sent, not one, but two aircraft carriers to the region, and has made it abundantly clear in word and deed that if any state or group attempts to enter the picture and aid Palestinians in their desperate attempt to survive Israelโs genocidal operation, that the US will intervene with its full force. The United Kingdom has also sent naval ships to support this Western imperial threat to the people of the region. The US is sending military equipment and weaponry to Israel, refusing to call for a ceasefire or de-escalation. Corporations and economic institutions are providing financial support to Israel all in the name of supporting Israeli victims, as well as reportedly offering financial incentives to Egypt, attempting to entice it to host the Palestinian refugees who will not be allowed to re-enter the Gaza Strip. Years of US and Western aid and support to Israel have allowed Israel to develop the infrastructural capabilities to carry out a genocide.
In terms of concealment, political, media, social and cultural institutions are fully mobilised in the West to hide and conceal this act of genocide, presenting it as a righteous violence of a victimised Jewish people everywhere in the world. Those expressing support for Palestine in the West are being threatened with job loss (and are actually losing their jobs), possible criminal charges and bans, and other punitive measures and harassment campaigns. The media is continuously and consistently sending the outrageous message that Hamas is the one responsible for the loss of Palestinian civil life in the Gaza Strip, attempting to wash their hands clean of the genocide. The Israeli operation is being framed as a mission to โeliminate Hamasโ as opposed to what it really is: a genocide of the Palestinian people and their erasure from the map. The few voices that are questioning these narratives are being marginalised, silenced and de-platformed.
In short, all of the establishment institutions in the West are mobilised, fully and coherently, at this moment in enabling the genocide of Palestinians, all under the guise of protecting โcivilisationโ from โbarbarismโ.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/1/11/gaza-daily-deaths-exceed-all-other-major-conflicts-in-21st-century-oxfamGaza daily deaths exceed all other major conflicts in 21st century: Oxfam
The killing of civilians in Gaza is at a scale unprecedented in recent history, monitoring groups have said, as Israel continues to pound the besieged coastal enclave more than three months into the war.
Britain-based charity Oxfam said on Thursday that the daily death toll of Palestinians in Israelโs war on Gaza surpasses that of any other major conflict in the 21st century, while survivors remain at high risk due to hunger, diseases and cold, as well as ongoing Israeli bombardments.
Gaza daily deaths exceed all other major conflicts in 21st century: Oxfam
Human Rights Watch also says Israelโs war on Gaza has included โacts of collective punishment that amount to war crimesโ.
The killing of civilians in Gaza is at a scale unprecedented in recent history, monitoring groups have said, as Israel continues to pound the besieged coastal enclave more than three months into the war.
Britain-based charity Oxfam said on Thursday that the daily death toll of Palestinians in Israelโs war on Gaza surpasses that of any other major conflict in the 21st century, while survivors remain at high risk due to hunger, diseases and cold, as well as ongoing Israeli bombardments.
โIsraelโs military is killing Palestinians at an average rate of 250 people a day, which massively exceeds the daily death toll of any other major conflict of recent years,โ Oxfam said in a statement.
For comparison, the charity provided a list of average deaths per day in other conflicts since the turn of the century: 96.5 in Syria, 51.6 in Sudan, 50.8 in Iraq, 43.9 in Ukraine, 23.8 in Afghanistan, and 15.8 in Yemen.
Oxfam said the crisis is further compounded by Israelโs restrictions on the entry of aid into Gaza, where only 10 percent of weekly food aid that is needed gets in. This poses a serious risk of starvation for those who survive the relentless bombardment, it said.
No.1824475
>>1824465
I used to see the US as not great, kind of evil, but not really as bad as the horrible countries such as the fascist states in the twentieth century. But they've backed regimes and things such as this, backing a literal genocide. This might just have been one of the worst most horrible things the US and many other Western countries has done in recent memory. Has the US ever backed a genocide before? There was the segregation, but this kind of extermination hasn't been backed before from them from what I can tell. And it's happening in the modern era, not the 1950s now. Absolutely disgusting.
No.1824479
I remember seeing an Israeli propaganda video that said "believe women" and weaponizing feminism against Palestinians. It's just beyond tone deaf to do something like that.
No.1824485
>>1824475The US literally backed up Pol Pot, islamic terrorists against the soviet union, helped hitlers germany, did genocide in vietnam, put military dictatorships and couped democratic govnerments in south america, and so many other war crimes. You can read more about those in books like this one, by William blum, killing hope:
https://archive.org/stream/pdfy-y_8iHigC3Ms5TngF/BLUM%20killing%20hope_djvu.txt No.1824487
>>1824447israel is a settler state, hamas are resistance fighters
>muh both side badretard
>>1824456physical, since they destroy every civilian infrastructure including water purification facilities and hospitals, and prevent aid, especially food and medicine, to enter causing mass starvation and illness, while gloating about how they're mass killing civilians.
how the fuck did you even find this place and not know such basic things
No.1824489
>>1824488All my sources are credible, i am a very serious man
No.1824490
And did nothing wrong, and if i did, i am very sorry for it, but i did nothing wrong
No.1824492
>>1824447hi anon, if youre new here and not well informed about the situation i suggest you read The Hundred Year War On Palestine.
No.1824493
So is it over already?
No.1824499
>>1824484the very gemulation of gemistry
No.1824501
Reminder that glowies reiterating the same faggot 'debate' about Pol Pot are only here to attempt to slide and distract you from the Palestine Genocide.
No.1824507
>>1824485I didn't know that they did genocide in Vietnam. I just thought they only were complicit and supporting it in Israel. Which would easily be amongst the most horrible of their actions in all of their history. Explain.
No.1824508
>>1824507I will let the other anons speak, i am not a specialist on the subject of the vietnan war
No.1824511
>>1824437
thank you for sharing this
No.1824514
>>1824501Glowies would never post Pol Pot. This board is just retarded.
No.1824516
>>1824447>I thought Hamas was a terror organizationBelieving US state department propaganda isn't good for you. If you've been occupied and empoverished for over half a century, you would have every right in the world to attack your oppressors
No.1824517
>>1824514>>1824501I did no wanted to start a discussion about pol pot, it was a mistake, and i am sorry for posting cringe
No.1824518
Israeli officials say that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahuโs war cabinet favours a retaliation against Iran for its mass drone and missile attack, but is divided over the timing and scale of any such response, according to Israeli media reports.
The five-member cabinet, in which Netanyahu, Defence Minister Yoav Gallant and Cabinet Minister Benny Gantz have decision-making powers, met on Sunday and was expected to convene again for further discussions.
The Times of Israel, citing multiple Hebrew media outlets, reported that Gantz and his political ally Gadi Eisenkot, an observer in the war cabinet, suggested retaliating, even during Iranโs attack.
Israelโs Channel 12 reported that Gallant, Army Chief Herzi Halevi and others opposed this idea, in part because the Israeli air force was already deployed to intercept the incoming drones and missiles.
No.1824521
>>1824516I get that, but Hamas still attacked civilians and captured innocents. Everybody is a shade of grey in this conflict, it's just that Israel is a much darker shade of grey than Hamas from my perspective
No.1824528
>>1824507Genocide as a concept is pretty dumb because even in the context of holocaust it was done in such a way that Soviet people weren't genocided, there was no recognition of genocide of Slavs by Nazis. By definition used, every imperialist war was a genocide with civilian populations explicitly targeted with the aim of erasing their identity, if not their existance.
So, yeah, USA committed genocide in Vietnam. The only shred of defence USA has is that South Vietnamese were complicit, too, and that South Koreans were complicit, too, in Korean war. It just sounds wrong that Vietnamese could commit (with US help) genocide against Vietnamese, but it was a war of extermination, and it was a war against culture
No.1824532
>>1824530
plz use a tripcode so i can filter your retardation
No.1824535
Did anything notable happen in the past 10 hours?
No.1824536
>>1824532Just filter him by flag.
No.1824540
>>1824521Welcome to democracy, where the elites do what they want, and the serfs take the blame because everyone believes it was their votes that kept a murderous government in power
No.1824541
>>1824176'Magacommunists' seething right now
No.1824542
>>1824535Israeli cabinet has convened. They want to strike back but can't agree on when and to what extent
No.1824543
>>1824521Nah, that is moral equivalence without context.
These actions were part of a broader guerrilla warfare strategy against a heavily armed state apparatus. It's important to understand these actions within the context of their struggle against a violently oppressive settler-colonial regime.
The ANC did very similar things, and were demonized and called terrorists by the West. When you put someone against the wall, expect anything in return.
Not the guy you're responding to, btw.
No.1824549
>>1824543Fair point. Maybe I'll look more deeply into things and change my perspective.
No.1824550
>>1824530
>>1824538
Go read more about what happened, you dumbfuck.
No.1824556
>>1824545>Qatar is part of Saudi ArabiaSheesh
No.1824558
>>1824551
You epitome of a brain fungus, about the Iraqi SCUD attacks.
What do you think was there to "intercept" those rockets? What were the military powers back then? What actual "damage" they did compared yesterday's?
No.1824560
>>1824528Expanding genocide to include wars waged on countries or groups of people by western liberal democracies is a slippery slope. Today it might be palestine. Tomorrow it could be the genocide of slavs by the nazis, or the yugoslav balkan wars, or even the irish potato famine or destabilization of libya. You should be careful not to implicate the west as enemies of humanity, otherwise socialism might start becoming popular again!
No.1824573
>On Saturday night shortly after the Israeli war cabinet learned Iran launched the attack, ministers Benny Gantz and Gadi Eizenkot โ both former IDF chiefs of staff โ proposed to launch a counterattack immediately, three Israeli officials said.
>Gantz and Eizenkot claimed the longer Israel waits, the harder it will be to get international legitimacy for a counterattack, the officials said.
>They also claimed an immediate counterattack as the Iranian drones were still making their way to Israel would likely prevent Iran from launching another attack in response and would end the exchange of attacks.
>Netanyahu and other members of the war cabinet opposed the idea mainly because it wasn't clear yet whether the Iranian attack caused any damages or casualties, the officials said.
>One official said Netanyahu also wanted to wait for his phone call with President Biden. "There were several options for a retaliation but the call stopped it. This train has left the station and now we can take a breath and think about it again," the official said."
based retard gantz
No.1824575
>>1824558You're being baited by someone at best desperate for attention and at worst attempting to have you think and talk about anything but the literal genocide
Just ignore him or filter him if you can't do that.
No.1824576
>>1823997Sorry but comparing regular imperialist wars to what the zionists are doing is just unsensitive
When America did imperialist wars like the ones in Iraq their goal was installing a comprador regime, not outright ethnic cleansing and settler colonization, America had the decency to punish much of their war criminals.
What the zionists are doing are only comparable to what was done to the native americans
No.1824579
>>1824528The history of the concept of genocide is really interesting actually. The discrepancy between the popular understanding and the various legal definitions, the most relevant of which is the UN one, is the result of the meddling of countries that didn't want their own colonial genocides recognized as such (e.g. Aboriginal Australians, Native Americas (meaning the continent)). The first proponent of the concept meant for it to have a much wider definition than it does legally today. BadEmpanada's video on the Holodomor has a good section on this.
No.1824582
>>1824573>would end the exchange of attacks.Lmao. They nearly started a war by attempting to end it
No.1824584
>>1824579Never forget that the original concentration camps were Indian reservations in the US
No.1824586
>>1824573>Gantz and Eizenkot claimed the longer Israel waits, the harder it will be to get international legitimacy for a counterattackI would say "mask off" but honestly the mask's
been off for anyone paying attention lol
No.1824591
>>1824576I think its more complex than settler colonialism since the Israelites were there since a long time and is resettling there and had the country reform in the 1940s I think. It's very wrong what's the country's doing, and I think it qualifies are genocide, but I don't see it as settler colonialism at all.
No.1824597
>>1824521>Hamas still attacked civilians thats just war, there was no order to kill any civilian, and israel army killed quite a few themselves during the fighting
also settlers often have guns and did their military service
>captured innocentsto trade them with their own. When the negotiation end with the trading of hundreds of palestinians for dozens of israeli, you dont ask yourself where the palestinians prisoners come from ?
>Everybody is a shade of greythats just life, but you have a genocidal settler state on one side, fully backed by all the imperialist and especially the US, and having an overwhelming weapons and power advantage, and the armed resistance of the locals on the other.
Also, every resistance group, including the PFLP (the communists), participated in the operation, its just the hamas are now the most important one and are easier to demonize to western audience as they're also islamist
No.1824598
>>1824591>>1824591>were there since a longThey started to infest/colonize Palestine in very late XIX century that's not a very long time at all and up to this day invaders from Poland and Brooklyn can claim stolen land from Palestinians, it is settler colonialism by every definition
No.1824600
>>1824597theres nothing wrong with attacking civies and so called "innocents" if its absolutely necessary (proportionality). hamas was in the right.
No.1824606
Does anyone have the full video of 'David' being shot dead at the checkpoint by the psycho IDFer?
No.1824607
>>1824122>we have reached that technology already being available to anti-westerners?<he doesnโt knowrussia, china, iran and the dprk are the only states in the world that have hypersonic missiles deployed
amerikkka still hasnโt gotten a single one yet
No.1824610
>>1824607nature status = healing, atleast until hell fire rises
No.1824616
>>1824611>five soldiers have been killed and six wounded during rehearsal wtf?
No.1824617
>>1824591>I think its more complex than settler colonialism since the Israelites were there since a long timeGo read a fucking history book.
No.1824619
>>1824577Stop posting pedo leftist-murderer with leftist leaders.
You're distracting the discussion from genocide to Islamist dick riding.
No.1824635
>>1824619Lol I'm antitheist and hate all Abrahamic faiths, music is music
No.1824638
>>1824619based
stalinoids on suicide watch
No.1824640
>>1824635I am antiatheist and hate all secularists equally but arigatou atitheist san
No.1824650
>>1824631this is the power of System-Verilog
No.1824652
>>1824635I believe that nothing is wrong with any religion, it's just depends on how the text is used or interpreted by people in the real world. Then if you start threatening human rights, we have a problem.
No.1824653
>>1824640Atheism and anti-theism are two different views though?
Atheism rejects the existence of god, whereas antitheism doesn't necessarily reject the existance, but opposes the concept. I recognize that these concepts affect humanity and therefore 'exist' as such, but find it necessary to oppose them.
No.1824656
Imagine being so maladjusted that the process in which you seek attention is through spamming aggressive shizoshit at leftypol.
It's sincerely actually sad to think about, nobedody should have to be this socially alienated and mentally unwell. :(
No.1824657
>>1824653I already know the distinction. I just find it necessary to oppose atheism, antitheism, secularism etc. in all its varieties. I'm not a religious zealot or anything. Just saying.
No.1824660
>>1824652>human rightsok lib
No.1824661
>>1824652I believe that religion is wrong, because it inherently dissuades people from materialism and reality while encouraging mysticism and proposing that life itself can never be thoroughly understood. I see it as a tool that has been historically used as a tool of imperialism.
>>1824657Those three are not interchangeable, you can be antitheist and work with religious people. No disrespect to your views, but the point is that eventually the conclusion to all contradiction is to kill them. So, go fuck yourself humanist and kill yourself.
No.1824662
nothing happened. indeed nothing ever happens.
No.1824666
>anarchist who supports theocracy -leftists from an unnamed geographical region- be like
>>1824663The only banger ITT
No.1824668
>>1824662>day 191 of a ground invasion and attempt at the final solution for the Gaza Problem<hur dur nothing happening!Hapooners are constantly the dumbest people on this site.
No.1824671
all in on $F1ZZL3
sorry $IZZL3 bros
No.1824672
>>1824661I know they aren't interchangeable. I just oppose all of them. I'm not even a humanist lol.
>I believe that religion is wrong, because it inherently dissuades people from materialism and reality while encouraging mysticism and proposing that life itself can never be thoroughly understood.Cope.
>>1824664I got no problems with theocracy, or more accurately, I wouldn't oppose it any more than any other government type.
No.1824673
>>1824573Wait, so is Israel's response on or off?
No.1824674
>>1824661>>1824672nobody gives a shit what you believe you self-important twats
this is the palestine general
No.1824675
>>1824552Russia going to bat for Iran
No.1824676
>>1824672Are you saying you're not the sameanon who wrote
>>1824661>Then if you start threatening human rights, we have a problem.As for
>Cope.Yes, religion is a cope.
No.1824677
@Opportunistbros Read Lenin
No.1824678
>>1824674I only had to clarify, because apparently posting anti-imperialist music means islamist dick-riding according to
>>1824619 No.1824681
Palestinian resistance factions praise the Iranian response: it changed the rules of engagement and broke the prestige of the occupation
The Palestinian factions praised the Iranian response, โThe True Promise,โ to the crimes of the Israeli occupation, including its aggression against the Iranian consulate in Damascus, during which the aerospace force launched ballistic and cruise missiles and drones at Israeli military sites in the occupied territories.
The Islamic Jihad Movement in Palestine confirmed that this operation is a natural response to the presence of the occupying entity, and is increasingly necessary in light of the crimes, violations and assassinations that it continues to commit, in flagrant violation of all humanitarian and legal values โโand standards.
The movement condemned all the denounced voices that came out in defense of the occupation, especially "the countries that have made themselves a protection wall to defend it and present it as the victim, in a manner that exposes all the truths and facts."
For its part, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine stressed that the Iranian response, which it confirmed was legitimate, broke the prestige of the occupying entity and revealed its fragility and inability to defend or restore its deterrence.
At the same time, the response demonstrated the ability of the Islamic Republic of Iran and the resistance factions to deliver painful blows to the occupation and deepen its internal crisis, according to the Frontโs statement.
The Front explained that the rush of the American administration, Britain, France, Germany, and some Arab countries in the region to use all their weapons to try to protect this entity from Iranian missiles and drones, confirms their involvement in Israeli crimes in the region, especially in Gaza.
The Popular Front pointed out that this Iranian response constitutes an important turning point in the Battle of Al-Aqsa Flood and for the benefit of the resistance factions, noting that the repercussions of the operation will have effects that pressure the occupation in order to stop its war of annihilation on the Gaza Strip.
The Fatah Intifada movement, in turn, confirmed that the Iranian response came to change the rules of engagement in the region, and to embody Iran and the resistance axis as a deterrent force against the occupationโs aggression, noting that the operation confirmed the unity of the resistance axisโ arenas.
She added, in a statement, that these strikes constituted an important historical turning point on which to achieve the goals of the Palestinian people of liberation and return.
Earlier, the Islamic Resistance Movement "Hamas" confirmed that the Iranian military attack on the occupying entity is " a natural and deserved response to the aggression against the embassy in Damascus."
In a statement, Hamas added that โthe peoples of the region have the right to defend themselves against Israeli aggression,โ calling on all the nationโs forces to continue supporting the resistance and the Al-Aqsa flood.
In turn, the Popular Resistance Committees blessed the Iranian response, stressing that it is self-defense and an inherent right of the Islamic Republic guaranteed by all international laws and laws.
She said that the Iranian response confirms that "we are now living a new reality and glorious historical moments established by the Al-Aqsa Flood Battle."
In conjunction with the Iranian military operation, Israeli media reported that for the first time since the war on Gaza since October 7, 2023, the skies of Gaza were empty of Israeli aircraft .
No.1824682
>>1824176Here I was hoping that Trump was an actual wild card and that he would abandon Israel.
No.1824684
>>1824680
seething nafoid
No.1824686
>>1824429I thought it was kind of ambiguous because just attacking Israel in general isn't really justified under international but Iran specifically targeted the F-35s that attacked the embassy using article 51 in self defense. They actually successfully hit and degraded Israels ability to carry out the kind of attack they were responding to and they only targeted exclusively military installations and not even dual use civilian staffed ones.
No.1824688
>>1824676Secularism is the ultimate cope. Its the most retarded of all ideological drugs because those addicted to it lack basic self-awareness. There's zero difference between an anti-religious zealot and a Evangelical fundamentalist. Your exactly the same but at least the fundie is somewhat self-aware. Anyone claiming religion is a tool of imperialism is living under a rock. Hamas is a tool of imperialism? lol
>>1824678You should try reddit.com. Its perfect for you.
No.1824689
>>1824176so what are the chances the israel lobby will give us a second trump presidency?
No.1824695
>all my insightful posts from last thread got purged
Why do jannies hate browns that much?
I fail to see another explanation for this unjustifiable act of tyranny and discrimination.
No.1824696
>>1824688>There's zero difference between an anti-religious zealot and a Evangelical fundamentalist.The difference is neither are fence-sitters unlike you.
>Anyone claiming religion is a tool of imperialism is living under a rock. Hamas is a tool of imperialism? Hamas is not a religion anon…
No.1824704
>>1824695@jannies read "Disruption of Unity Under Cover of Outcries for Unity" by Vladimir Ilyich Lenin
I know he is an inferior slavoid in your eyes but give his works a chance.
No.1824711
Russian ambassador to the UN, Vassily Nabenzia, says Western countries, including France, the UK and the US, are displaying โhypocrisyโ after they declined to support a statement condemning the Israeli attack on Iran consulate on April 1.
โThe outcome is now clear for everyone to see. You know very well that an attack against a diplomatic representative is a casus belli [an act that justifies/provokes war] under international law and if a Western representation had been hit, you would immediately have rained down reprisals,โ Nabenzia said.
โThis is because, for you, everything that has to do with Western representation and Western citizens is sacred and needs to be protected. But when it comes to other countries their rights, including their right to self-defence about their nationals, thatโs a different matter.
โToday, in the Security Council, what weโre witnessing is a display of hypocrisy and double standards which is almost embarrassing to watch.โ
No.1824712
>>1824711Unremittingly based
No.1824714
>>1824653>antitheism doesn't necessarily reject the existance, but opposes the conceptLike "God may exists but we should do as if he doesn't?"
No.1824717
>>1824698
>Atheism is when nothing matters
>Antitheism is when you hate something mattering
<describes Nihilist attitude
Absolute retard, its obvious you've never bothered to learn philosophy.
No.1824718
>>1824714What he means is hes an edgelord and religion bashing is an outlet for his asinine retardation. Atheism is too boring, too mundane, gotta go to the next level and call yourself an antitheist.
No.1824726
>>1824722Atheists, secularists, antitheists, and liberals are the real scum colonizers who come to our lands. Kill them all with fire.
No.1824727
>>1824726Triggered religoid. Go pray to your flying spaghetti monster.
No.1824728
>>1824726can i bite the baitu please?
No.1824729
"This attack crossed every red line and Israel receives the legal right to retaliate", Israel's ambassador to the United Nations says
No.1824730
>>1824718>What he means is hes an edgelord and religion bashing is an outlet for his asinine retardationI'm sorry we're too 'edgy' for your moralist, humanist standards.
>>1824726>Our landsI smell a landlord. Say did you gain your land by 'God-given right'?
>Kill them all with fire.All of them? That's like… a lot of anticommunism. Probably a lot of dead anarchists too. I'm starting to suspect this isn't so leftist after all.
No.1824731
>westoids suck Islamist and nationalist cock non stop
>get surprised when they're surrounded by retards
lmao ๐ฎ๐ท๐ธ๐พ๐ท๐บ
No.1824733
The left died in 1991. There is no left anymore. Just a zombie of a moment forever doomed to foolishly replay and repeat its own history in a 21st century that's slowly rendering it obsolete. First time a tragedy, second time a farce.
No.1824736
>>1824733True. The left died when the revisionist USSR fell, then class struggle ceased.
Very materialist. Much analysis.
No.1824738
>>1824733>The left died in 1991The left died in 1989 with comrade Khomeini
No.1824739
>>1824729did he even bring up the iranian consulate attack?
No.1824740
>>1824733specifically it was the after effect of the dissolution, the unrelenting assault of working class and organizations since then. but as the world fractures and divides cosmopolitan financial bourgeoise and industrial bourgeoises of other nations I have hope the left will rise again
No.1824743
>>1824741I thought he had Indian ancestry. Doesn't look very Indian here or that's not him.
No.1824745
>>1824737>islamophobiaWhy is this egghead using liberal jargon?
No.1824755
I'd say the attacks have been a failure for Iran. Israel will come away from this believing Iran's missile deterrence is a paper tiger and they have no reason to fear it. The IRGC should have used a bigger barrage and provided less warnings to neighboring countries. If there's any silver lining its that the world now knows how Israel's air defense system works and how they'd respond to a massed strike. This could also lead to Israel dangerously underestimating Iran's capabilities which will be a plus in the long run. Even if Iran's missile forces are still highly effective, Iranian diplomats have lost a valuable card they can play in negotiations.
>>1824727As if your incoherent metanarratives and transcendental abstractions are any better than a flying spaghetti monster. Messianism of the proletariat, impeding revolution (apocalypse), and communism (end times) etc. Irreligious people should just be honest with ourselves and drop the arrogant facade.
>>1824739Why would he do that? The Israelis aren't that retarded.
>>1824740It won't for one main reason. The vast majority of leftists today are larpers trying to relive the past. They're like classic rock nerds listening to their dad's music hoping a return of Led Zepplin always mad at people who don't like 70s music. The modern left hates the present, doesn't care about the future, and is staring in the rear view mirror circlejerking over 19th century hand me downs rather than coming up with new ideas. We're in 2024 and the political left hasn't shown any imitative globally in decades. Think about that. Its become even more insignificant since Occupy and the heyday of the anti-globalization movement.
There are many reasons the left was defeated as a political force but leftists don't want to probe the causes or reasons in any way that challenges their deep seated prejudices. They just blame outside forces as usual and ignore all of the internal problems, ideological problems, leadership issues etc. Leftists won't stfu about materialist analysis but do virtually none of it. The meaning of "materialist" has slowly degenerated into shallow apologetics.
No.1824761
>>1824755>As if your incoherent metanarratives and transcendental abstractions are any better than a flying spaghetti monster. Messianism of the proletariat, impeding revolution (apocalypse), and communism (end times) etc. Irreligious people should just be honest with ourselves and drop the arrogant facade. Communism being a religion is literally a narrative pushed by liberal atheists lmfao.
No.1824763
In his pretty long speech, Gilad Erdan, Israelโs ambassador to the UN, had a lot of hyperbole in there but when it got down to what Israel really wants to see, it came down to three things:
There was a strong condemnation that Israel hopes the Security Council will issue against Iran.
Israel is expecting the UN to impose more sanctions and the Israeli ambassador says [JCPOA nuclear deal measures] should be implemented immediately.
And then he also wants the [Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps] to be tagged as a โterrorist organisationโ.
But I think it was the sanctions that Israel was really looking for here and weโll have to see if that comes about.
[Essentially], Israel has laid out the case that they are the victims here and Iran โ in their view โ is the one spreading โterrorโ; not only, in their view, in Israel but in other parts of the world and region as well.
No.1824768
>>1824767Reported to the Islamist jannies for insulting the superme leader
No.1824769
>>1824755Maybe human beings just deserve extinction
No.1824770
What the fuck is with this garbage being posted? Stick to the topic or fuck off out the thread.
No.1824775
You dumb uyghurs don't understand politics do you? So much for materialist analysis. Nation states can't do whatever they want. They exist in a field of social and economic relations. There are material constraints. By launching this attack, Iran is trying to satiate the blood lust of its own establishment who are enraged at Israel. At the same time, the Iranian leadership know if they go all out they'll loose their deterrent capability and invite a US strike. This attack is trying to chart a middle ground. Iran will fire off a small barrage with forewarning that would hopefully cause some damage that would instill fear in the Israelis but not enough damage to trigger a full scale war with the US. Its risky because if the strikes do minimal damage (which they did) Iran will have lost the deterrent effect its missile arsenal provided. These attacks weren't designed to kill a lot of people but do moderate damage and they were intended to be a one off show of force.
No.1824776
>>1824775Reddit-tier post
No.1824779
>>1824755>I'd say the attacks have been a failure for Iran. Israel will come away from this believing Iran's missile deterrence is a paper tiger and they have no reason to fear it. The IRGC should have used a bigger barrage and provided less warnings to neighboring countries.yeah im not seeing it. if hezbollah launched at the same time they would have had more like a 90% hit rate. overall very similar to russia probing the ukraine power grid
No.1824781
>>1824775Exactly right, it was basically Iran saying to the zionists if they wanted to flatten their entire stolen genocidal settler colony they could
No.1824782
>>1824775kamala harris post
No.1824784
>>1824781The question is did it do enough damage to work? If Israel is relatively unscathed they'll come away thinking Iron Dome/David's Sling works perfectly and have less fear of Iran. They will be more aggressive and hostile in the future and shrug off any Iranian missile threat as a paper tiger. It depends on how much damage Israel received. So far it doesn't look dramatic but they could be lying too. Its in Israel's best interest to downplay any damage to purposely embarrass the Iranians and make Tehran think its failed in asserting itself. This would put the Iranians on the backfoot and give Israel much more wiggle room while distracting from its genocide in Gaza.
>>1824779For the barrage to have been more effective, they should have had their allies in Iraq and Lebanon fire drones simultaneously to shorten the distance and ETA. The big problem for Iran is range. The further the distance and the more hostile airspace its drones and missiles have to fly over the more likely they'll be shot down. Israel's stealth jets are more than capable of striking deep within Iranian territory and the UN basically lets them get away with airspace violations. Iran's air force is capable but they can't fly through Iraqi and Jordanian airspace the way Israel can.
No.1824790
๐จ Breaking: Israel ๐ฎ๐ฑ Minister of Diaspora @AmichaiChikli hints at the magnitude of Israel's retaliation:
โWe will treat every missile fired on Israel as if it hit the intended target, and we will retaliate accordingly.โ
No.1824792
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2024/04/iranian-missiles-hit-israel.html
>Iran fired several hundred drones, cruise and ballistic missiles towards Israel.
>With the help of the U.S., UK and Jordan most of the incoming items were intercepted.
>The expense of several hundred of air defense missiles, at a cost of more than $1 billion, was significant as these are currently hard to get items. More such attacks would soon deplete those which are left.
>Iran's missiles, for which the drones flew cover, hit their targets. The Nevatim Air Base (vid) and the Ramon airbase (vid), both located in the Negev desert, experienced impacts.
>How big the damage was can only be noted after fresh satellite pictures come in.
>This is a good chance for both sides to declare victory.
>Iran can claim that it successfully penetrated Israel's air defense and hit appropriate targets in revenge for the Israeli attack on Iran's embassy in Damascus.
>Israel can claim that it has successfully defended its assets.
>Israel may want to hit back on Iran. It would be stupid to do so.
>Added: From a reliable analyst of the resistance axis: Amal Saad @amalsaad_lb - 11:06 UTC ยท Apr 14, 2024
THREAD: The region is entering uncharted territory where the previous strategic paradigm and rules of engagement no longer apply. From now on, any Israeli action will be met with a direct and collective response by the Axis. 1/
Regardless of what Israel does next, there is no going back to the status quo ante. This is no longer the Iran that just supports resistance movements with weapons and training. This is the Iran that directly engages in strikes against Israel. 2/
This is a new proactive phase of the Resistance Axis' "offensive defense" strategy, which was officially launched on October 8 when Hizbullah and later other Resistance Axis allies directly intervened in the conflict against Israel. 3/
The US and other Western and Arab allies have also taken the unprecedented step of directly defending Israel. Yesterday night proved that Israel's self-sufficiency in security and defense matters is limited. Israel will not be fighting any of its future wars independently. 4/
No.1824795
>>1824790Were their demands at the security council just empty gestures then?
Or are they standing on Biden's balls for more concessions with the threat of war?
No.1824797
>>1824790they won't do shit
No.1824801
>>1824797Imagine making posts that will age like milk. Couldn't be me.
No.1824804
>>1824790bitch you have no soldiers.
No.1824806
>>1824801Maybe its reverse psychology, because they want something to happen so that someone will do something and when that happens they will write that nothing ever happens so that someone will do something and when that happens they will write nothing ever happens so that someone will do something and when that happens they will write nothing ever happensโฆ
No.1824817
Israel abandoned the option of launching a retaliatory strike on Iranian territory following a Saturday phone call between Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and President Joe Biden, The New York Times reported on Sunday, citing officials in Jerusalem.
Biden reportedly told Netanyahu during the call that his administration would not support offensive action against the regime in Tehran.
https://www.jns.org/nyt-netanyahu-dropped-retaliation-against-iran-after-biden-call/ No.1824827
>>1824784>For the barrage to have been more effective>The question is did it do enough damage to work?maybe.. if you are measuring effectiveness in damage
if iran hit tel aviv israel would respond by hitting tehran and draw in the us, which iran dont want. what would actually be effective is china and russia bringing a resolution to the general assembly bypassing the us veto and forming a coalition of the willing for a ground invasion.
No.1824828
>>1824817Even a child could figure out what the zionists were trying to do provoking Iran in the first place
No.1824829
>>1824822MOA gets referenced a lot by naked capitalism. The owner is some kind of military expert iirc, or at least has enough military experience to opine about various military operations in a coherent way. They're not always right since they're working with limited information but they're a useful resource.
No.1824835
ok
No.1824837
>>1824831The official said that when Biden told Netanyahu that the U.S. will not participate in any offensive operations against Iran and will not support such operations, Netanyahu said he understood.
https://www.axios.com/2024/04/14/biden-netanyahu-iran-israel-us-wont-supportthere are only 3 news agencies, AP, AFP, and Reuters. everything else is a repost of a repost No.1824838
No news is good news..r-right?
No.1824842
is it happening?
No.1824843
Im amazed that for how senile Biden is, he still isn't stupid enough to actually WANT go to war with Iran
No.1824846
>>1824838Unless division in Bibi's cabinet is worse then suggested by its member actively breaking rank and someone is doing something behind Bibi's back.
No.1824853
>>1824843genocide joe would love to see tehran in flames but his handlers know the us doesn't have enough munitions to do the job
No.1824855
>>1824837Looking forward to a week from now when suddenly it's the reverse
No.1824856
>>1824853Current unpopularity of Israel makes it bad optics to be seen supporting them.
No.1824869
>>1824849>ABC news>By JERUSALEM POST STAFF>An American source it's a lie
No.1824870
>>1824866the children yearn for the mines
No.1824871
>>1824866It's a favorite hobby of /AKM/ too!
https://leftypol.org/AKM/res/1028.html Don't let the zionists take away all the fun out of it…
No.1824875
>>1824873In other news, water is wet
No.1824877
>>1824875I feel a disturbance in the force….
something deep, something ancient, has aWOKEN
No.1824880
>>1824878I can't believe someone actually responded to the worst post ever made today. Thanks man i needed that attention rn
No.1824883
>>1824859they should all jump in and bury themselves
No.1824903
>>1824329>there is ripe opportunity for communism if the cards are played right and any revolution is organically made through organizing grassroot movements rather than Soviet sponsored military coups.And once established it ends up becoming militarized as Capitalist try to destroy it from the inside and outside.
Blaming militarization on the Soviets instead of imperialists is western ultra-cope.
No.1824922
It took 2 weeks to respond to the embassy. I suspect will see a little cow offering here soon and then when in 72 hours of that Israel will do a massive escalation several times more severe then what Iran brought here.
No.1824930
>>1824923
he fucking throwned the book the madman
>palestinians are dingus
>israelis are dingus too
goddamit
No.1824931
Israeli politicians are promising some sort of response. The question is what is it going to be and when is going to be?
There are people within the higher echelons of Israelโs decision-making structures who are urging for a harsh reaction to that Iranian attack. Specifically Itamar Ben-Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich, the nationalist and far-right members of Netanyahuโs government.
Ben-Gvir said that if Israel wanted to contain the threat of Iran in the Middle East, โthe boss must go nutsโ.
The more measured voices perhaps are Defence Minister Yoav Gallant and war cabinet member Benny Gantz. Ultimately, it is up to the war cabinet to decide and there, voting is limited to Netanyahu, Gallant and Gantz.
We have to wait and see what they decide.
There is an opportunity for Israel here.
Over the last few months, there has been a fraying of its traditional alliances and friendships because of the war in Gaza, with countries like the US and UK critical of the slaughter in Gaza. But for a brief moment yesterday, that was all forgotten โ all that international carping about the civilian casualties, aid supplies and the two-state solution fell away and it was back to Israelโs allies staunchly supporting it.
And so Israel wants to build on that.
There was a phone call between Gallant and his US counterpart, Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin, in which the Israeli minister said this is a chance for Israel to build an international coalition to take on Iran.
Of course, the US is reluctant to be any part of an attack on Iran and said that it wants essentially a line to be drawn under this and for everyone to de-escalate.
No.1824933
>>1824931This constant escalation is just making everything worse for everyone. Why can't they just stop genociding them. But stopping the genocide won't be enough for Hamas, probably. They probably believe in river to sea, and want to see Israel be unestablished. I would prefer both societies to live with each other in peace, and for Israel to make reparations with Palestine and have a peaceful coexistence.
(USER WAS BANNED FOR ZIONIST APOLOGIA) No.1824934
>>1824933Post this shit to Facebook and not here
No.1824935
>>1824934 Well there's not much alternatives to this place in terms of imageboards since /pol/ is filled with nazis
No.1824938
>>1824936I legitimately don't get their logic. What do they get out of being racist and genocidal? There's nothing to be gained by destroying a bunch of people based on their race and creed.
No.1824940
>>1824938You are oversimplifying it. There are multiple competing interests involved trying to play the situation to their advantage. E.g. Netanyahu is trying to keep the "war" (genocide) going to distract Israeli authorities from putting him in jail for other crimes he's committed. In the larger sense, sure there's nothing to be gained, only lost, by committing a genocide. But these things are never actually done for some grander reason (though people doing it will pretend as much). Genocide can't actually accomplish that kind of goal - it's always actually more about petty and mundane malice that's been elevated to the level of a political machine. The genocidaires really just care about being able to personally do crimes against humanity against a group of people they have a chip on their shoulder about. And a lot of politicians (some even true believers) are happy to exploit that tendency for their own personal power, which is really just as petty as the million people who want to lynch their neighbor for being the wrong shade.
No.1824941
>>1824938Modern zionism is a product of 19th century nationalism, where bourgeois Jewish ideology cross pollinated with bourgeois German ideology. The Palestinians represent an alien "blut" whose presence and admixture can only weaken and dilute the Israeli "blut," and so must be purged from the Israeli "boden."
Aside from ideological reasons there's also practical ones as well. As long as independent Palestinian territories exist "within Israel" then the state will never be secure enough to expand. Exterminating the Palestinians is just the first step towards creating Greater Israel, which can't happen without it.
Also, Israel's existence requires constant aid and protection from the United States, which has its own imperial designs. The reality is that the US is on the decline in power and prestige for the foreseeable future. It's already experiencing logistical problems and can't provide weapons in sufficient numbers to sustain Ukraine and Israel, and there's a conflict with Taiwan somewhere in the near future too. For the nationalist scum in Israel, there won't be another opportunity like this for another hundred years, if at all. It's now or never.
No.1824942
>>1824933>Why can't they just stop genociding them.Was asking the same question today in a conversation and a quote from The Hunchback of Notre Dame (the book) sprang to mind.
>When one does wrong, one must do it thoroughly. 'Tis madness to halt midway in the monstrous! The extreme of crime has its deliriums of joy.There has to be seriously fucked up mass psychology behind it.
No.1824946
>>1824933>>1824942Thereโs a pretty haunting quote from Thomas Jefferson I read recently that might explain the psychology behind it:
> "the two principles on which our conduct towards the Indians should be founded, are justice & fear. after the injuries we have done them, they cannot love us . . . ."Of course the Zionists may have slipped the โjusticeโ part and gone straight to fear. Iโd say a good portion of ethnonationalists are psychotically obsessed with fear. The idea that you could inflict such monumental terror and evil on a person that you can get whatever you want from them. Force them to surrender.
No.1824947
>open israeli news site
>it keeps refreshing the page every few minutes or so
is this some tracking shit? why is it that every single israeli news site does it
No.1824951
>>1824946Christ what a chilling admission.
>after the injuries we have done them, they cannot love usThis is exactly what made me think Israelis may think they're unable to stop until the damage is complete.
>>1824948I saw a clip from this circulate a lot years ago, but never saw the whole video. Crazy shit.
No.1824952
>>1824946basically saying "we've already gone so far all we can do now is go all the way, or else they'll (rightfully, it's implied) kill us all"
No.1824956
>>1824946>Of course the Zionists may have slipped the โjusticeโ partWell, it's not like they're going to recover their esteem. :^)
No.1824962
>>1824946Reminds me of in Australia, settlers in Tasmania (the island in picrel) virtually exterminated the local population from ~10,000 in 1805 to about 50 in 1840 in the "Black War". And they knew damn well what they were doing, too:
"We are at war with them: they look upon us as enemies โ as invaders โ as oppressors and persecutors โ they resist"
our invasion. "They have never been subdued, therefore they are not rebellious subjects, but an injured nation,"
defending in their own way, their rightful possessions which have been torn from them by force. - written by a settler to a Newspaper in Launceston, Tasmania, 1827
They knew perfectly well what they were doing and had a pretty good idea of what would happen if they stopped halfway. I suspect Israelis have the same feelings.
No.1824964
>>1824904That's amazing.
>>1824933>But stopping the genocide won't be enough for Hamas, probably. They probably believe in river to sea, and want to see Israel be unestablished. They want Israel to be annihilated. Well they're religious extremists with an apocalyptic worldview. Like they might have really believed that the October attack would result in Israel's destruction. If Israel destroys Gaza, so what? Everyone who dies will go to Heaven. What can you do. I think the Israelis are psychopaths btw.
No.1824965
>>1824964Are you an actual Nazi? Then fuck off and get off of this website.
No.1824972
>>1824969Their ideology of hate propagated it, maybe.
No.1824973
>>1824964>If Israel destroys Gazaisrael has been doing that for decades, it has nothing to do with al-aqsa flood, implying that this is only happening because hamas "attacked" is classic hasbara
i dont understand why the jannies keep this nazi faggot unbanned
No.1824978
>>1824973I understand that but Israel has destroyed something like 2/3s of the buildings in Gaza, possibly more, and there might be another 20,000 people buried under the rubble on top of the tens of thousands dead. Did Hamas anticipate this reaction? I don't think Sinwar cares though if he believes the world is on the verge of judgement day.
No.1824980
>>1824978>Did Hamas anticipate this reaction?Absolutely, why do you think they were able to hold up, up until now, idiot, lmao.
No.1824982
>>1824980I mean Israel has just produced a whole new generation of kids who've lost friends and family and they'll want revenge. But I find the whole situation to be insane and Hamas' leaders are insane. The Israelis are racist psychopaths.
No.1824984
>>1824982I am sorry but there is nothing insane about violently lashing out and struggling for your own survival while being a prisoner in a concentration camp. There is nothing that is more rational in all of existence of life itself than the struggle for survival. Your statements make no sense and come across as extremely sheltered.
No.1824986
>>1824978>I understand thatyou clearly dont since you posted that
kys
No.1824989
>>1824982the palestinian situation is uniquely horrible in the 21st century, theyve been kept in brutally enforced bantustans and beaten down every time they tried to go through peaceful channels. i dont agree with hamas politics (neither do most palestinians), but i unequivocally support their decision to launch armed struggle against israel (as do most palestinians, even now, despite their approval ratings being low for the past 15 years, fighting israel has remained extremely popular).
there is nothing insane about taking your chances with a fight after seeing almost a decade of slow extermination.
No.1824991
>>1824988
Don't know if a troll or a literal hasbarat, either way, reported
No.1824992
>>1824913>gog and magogGet out of here with that made up bullshit
<gog.com and gog-games.comthere we go
No.1824994
>>1824964>They want Israel to be annihilated.That's great and exactly why I critically stand with them, only thing I dislike about hamas is the fact they're religious fundamentalists
No.1825007
>>1824996Don't throw jewish people under the bus for what their government is doing. Propaganda and nationalism does stuff to people, I guess.
No.1825008
>>1824994I am a christian who believes in liberation theology. I do not want Israel to be annihilated.
No.1825010
>>1825007Gonna take a moment to appreciate the irony of listening to years of โwhite people suckโ shit only to see calls for nuance when the same shit is attributed to Jews. I was told it was white fragility if you complain about some frankly dicey statements on โwhitenessโ but now itโs โhey, separate the Jews from their government.โ
All we need now is for Liberia to do some weird Afro-American ethnostate shit and thereโll be enough skeletons in everyoneโs closet for no one to talk atrocities.
(USER WAS BANNED FOR BEING A FRAGILE HONKEY) No.1825015
least fragile honkey:
>>1825010lmao
No.1825031
>>1825010>The leadership of the new nation consisted largely of the Americo-Liberians, who at the beginning established political and economic dominance in the coastal areas that the ACS had purchased; they maintained relations with the United States and contacts in developing these areas and the resulting trade. >By 1877, the True Whig Party was the country's most powerful political entity. It was made up primarily of Americo-Liberians, who maintained social, economic and political dominance well into the 20th century, repeating patterns of European colonists in other nations in Africa.>In 1927, the country's elections again showed the power of the True Whig Party, with electoral proceedings that have been called some of the most rigged ever; the winning candidate was declared to have received votes amounting to more than 15 times the number of eligible voters. Soon after, allegations of modern slavery in Liberia led the League of Nations to establish the Christy Commission. Findings included government involvement in widespread "Forced or compulsory labour". Minority ethnic groups especially were exploited in a system that enriched well-connected elites. guess what happens next
series of us backed coups on behalf of firestone rubber, voodoo death squads, 2 million dead No.1825032
>>1825007>Don't throw jewish people under the bus for what their government is doing.>their governmentthe surreptitious conflation of jews with israel is even more damaging than that other anon going "fuck jews lol" or whatever
No.1825037
>>1825008>I am a christian who believes in liberation theology. I want Israel to be annihilated.ftfy
No.1825066
>>1825007Israel is a Jewish Ethno state with a jewish government chosen by a majority jewish people. The majority of these jewish people want to kill their brown neighbors and expand their ethno state through genocide. Zionism isn't equal to being jewish but it's part of it. You can't simply ignore that the ideology of zionism is that a jewish heritage makes one superior to another group of people the same way Nazis thought their german heritage made them superior to the jews. The difference between the Nazis and Zionists is though is that the former didn't get a majority vote for themselves. Zionists are anti-semitic but they are also a majority jews who want to live in a jewish Ethno State. If you were a white guy in South Africa high chances are you were a Boer as well.
No.1825071
Imagine lying about intercepting 99% of missiles, thus basically laughing off paper tiger Iran's all-out attack, and then Biden calling you on the phone and advising you "to take the win" instead of supporting your retaliation against Iran
The good'ol conundrum of "help me! I'm winning!"
No.1825072
>>1825066Ok. So specify "the majority of Israeli Jews". It
is important because without it you're just being racist. Bigotry is insidious and everyone is susceptible to it. Me, you, everyone. Fascists like the nazi flag poster will try to exploit that, that is an immature perhaps confused inclination towards a bigoted belief, to drive a wedge.
No.1825076
>>1825072I already specified. Israel is a Jewish Ethno state with a jewish government chosen by a majority jewish people, what was it? Over 70%? They illegally took and are still taking land by killing and forcing away another group of people some of them are Palestinian jews as well. This is in no way saying that if you are a jew, you are a zionist since there were around 50.000 jews who originate from what we now know as Palestine iirc. Almost all Israeli Jews are colonialists ergo zionists though. The vast majority of them live currently there because they or their near relatives killed or displaced another group of people. It's not a case of "Oh I didn't know about the genocide.". The majority of the people got there because land was freed through their genocide in the name of their jewish heritage which they support. Think how Nazis were made of majority germans killing in the name of their german superiority but not every german was a nazi but were rather victims of them. You can't divorce Germans in Nazi Germany from Naziism the same way you can't divorce Jews in Colonial Israel from Zionism.
No.1825081
>>1825071>Imagine lying about intercepting 99% of missilesI know they're always lying but how many were actually intercepted
No.1825091
>>1824913behead christcucks
No.1825118
>>1825059Why do I want her to
shoot me so badly?
No.1825132
๐จ๐ก๐ข BREAKING - Hezbollah:
In support of our steadfast Palestinian people in the Gaza Strip and in support of their valiant and honorable resistance, and after closely monitoring and anticipating the movements of the enemy forces, fighters of the Islamic Resistance planted explosive devices in the area of Tel Ismail, adjacent to the border with occupied Palestine inside Lebanese territory. When a force belonging to the Golani Brigade crossed the border and reached the location of the devices, they were detonated, resulting in deaths and injuries among their ranks.โ
Monday, 15-04-2024
06 Shawwal 1445 AH
Idf confirmed 4 wounded of which 2 seriously so, but the fact true losses on the Lebanon front are heavily censored should be also taken into account.
No.1825136
>>1825117>shocking momentuygha casually ignoring all the "shocking moments" during the last 5 months
No.1825145
>>1825138>you're not even a uyghur, you're an african
>mein gott, i guess it makes sense, america does pretend to care about the black population getting killed, but only in their own country, blacks dying outside america is just another tuesday for businessatleast my shitty interpretation for a quote from a movie i've never seen
No.1825168
when will you uyghurs stop using twitter as a news source?
No.1825171
>>1825168it is part of imageboard culture everywhere to use uncomfirmed twitteroids as the messengers of truth, it has been the tradition for tens of years, are you saying we need a cultural revolution to get rid of the old ways?
No.1825178
>>1825171we need a cultural revolution to turn us back to the days of ayashii and futaba (minus all the kiddie porn). We need an imageboard khomeini who will lead us back to the righteous path when anonymous boards were actually good and not full of social media rejects and colonizers from reddit.
No.1825188
The Greek politician was flying to Germany to speak at the Palestine Conference in Berlin on the current conflict in Gaza.
He was denied entry and banned from Germany. He was also threatened that if he were to speak at the conference via Zoom he would be in breach of German law and would be taken to trial.
Several other attendees were also denied entrance to Germany including the rector of the University of Glasgow who was detained and interrogated at the airport in Berlin for 4 hours
The conference itself was broken up violently by the police.
It seems that questioning Israel's action in any way or speaking against them is now completely illegal in Germany.
https://diem25.org/germany-bans-yanis-varoufakis-from-entering-the-country/ No.1825205
>>1825171>it is part of imageboard culture everywhere to use uncomfirmed twitteroids as the messengers of truth, it has been the tradition for tens of years, are you saying we need a cultural revolution to get rid of the old ways?Anon twitter isn't that ld, it didn't even exist for most my IB using life, let alone popular.
No.1825210
fellas, did i fuck up by replying to a zion cock sucker comparing from the river chant to antisemitism and pretty much bringing up antisemitism as a reason to everything with >your mom's an antisemite?
No.1825213
>>1825210I mean it's not exactly gonna convince anyone but if it made you feel better who cares
No.1825232
Predictions for today?
No.1825233
>>1825232I may take a shit
No.1825234
>>1825233Like father like son
No.1825248
Zionist sources revealed a "serious incident in the north" of occupied Palestine. According to the sources, at least three IOF soldiers were injured, two with moderate wounds and one with serious injuries. They have been transported to "Nahariya" Hospital.
The IOF admits that 4 soldiers from the Golani Brigade were injured, one of them seriously and two of them moderately, due to an explosion of unknown origin near their vehicle close to the border with Lebanon.
The explosion targeted a force from the elite Golani and the "Yahalom" engineering unit while they were working on the fence in the western area at the border with Lebanon.
Hezbollah:
In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
"Permission [to fight] has been granted to those who are being fought, because they were wronged. And indeed, Allah is competent to give them victory."
This is the truth of Allah, the Most High, the Almighty.
In support of our steadfast Palestinian people in the Gaza Strip and in support of their valiant and honorable resistance, and after closely monitoring and anticipating the movements of the enemy forces, fighters of the Islamic Resistance planted explosive devices in the area of Tel Ismail, adjacent to the border with occupied Palestine inside Lebanese territory. When a force belonging to the Golani Brigade crossed the border and reached the location of the devices, they were detonated, resulting in deaths and injuries among their ranks.
"And victory is only from Allah, the Mighty, the Wise."
Monday, 15-04-2024
06 Shawwal 1445 AH
Zionist sources admitted that the explosive operation by Hezbollah that killed and wounded at least 4 soldiers of the Golani Brigade occurred inside Lebanese territory.
This occurred after IOF soldiers attempted to work dozens of meters away from the separation fence.
Zionist media reported that a drone crossed into northwestern occupied Palestine and safely returned to Lebanon.
No.1825252
>>1825242
Funny but funnier if you'd use Zionist instead. No need to encourage antisemites.
No.1825266
US official reveals impact of damage by Iran's retaliatory response
A senior American official told ABC News that at least nine Iranian missiles penetrated Israeli air defenses and hit two Israeli air bases.
He added that five ballistic missiles hit the Nevatim Air Base, causing damage to a C-130 transport plane, a runway, and storage facilities.
The official said that four additional ballistic missiles hit the Nevatim Air Base.
On Saturday evening, Iran's Islamic Revolution Guard Corps (IRGC) Aerospace Force announced that it targeted Israeli positions in occupied Palestine with dozens of drones and missiles, as part of the retaliatory response to the malicious Israeli crime against the Iranian embassy in Syria.
Described as "unprecedented", by a Sky News correspondent, the IRGC's Aerospace Force announced that the operation dubbed "True Promise" was launched in the context of "punishing the criminal Zionist regime."
The force said that the operation came "in response to the numerous evil crimes of the Zionist regime," including the attack on the embassy. It said that its forces, supported by other units of the Iranian Armed Forces, launched the "wide-ranging" military operation.
No.1825280
I've been so sick for 5 days..
Coincidence? I think knot..
I'm thinking the fucking zios poisoned me anons.
No.1825299
>>523599Eat a pastrami on rye sandwich Anon, might cure you, kek.
>>1825250Love to see, but what's the over/under they stay open less than a week? Is this really a sign of improvement?
No.1825321
>>1825266FWIW Iranain outlets was saying they hit the airbase since yesterday and that the hits on the airbase were as these are the bases used to bomb the embassy.
No.1825332
>>1825188And his former party Syriza still hasn't commented on this, while they condemned Iran's attack "without asterisks"
No.1825373
>>1824743Khomeini had Indian ancestry? Didn't know that. He looks like he could be Indian, many North-Indians (Kashmiris, Himachalis, Punjabis) are pretty light-skinned. It's funny because you can have siblings who are a mix of tanned complexion and white-passing. Almost like kittens!
No.1825460
>>1825188>It seems that questioning Israel's action in any way or speaking against them is now completely illegal in Germany.It is literally Germany's raison d'etre
Modern Germany, by its own definition, is for serving Israel, not Jewish people, despite most early Zionists were already working towards ethnically cleansing Palestine in Palestine before Hitler even took power.
States don't recognize people, they recognize other states.
No.1825463
>>1825188Wouldn't it be funny if this triggered EU collapse?
No.1825465
>>1825081Idk, though Iran is aware of the missile defense systems Israel has.
They know that the way to get through it (if you can't hack it down for hours) is to overwhelm it, and they got plenty of cheap locally made missiles. Estimates go up to 100,000 of various types.
No.1825469
>>1825438It's difficult to believe them. The Iranians were committed to their response because it was a flagrant violation of their sovereignty. Fundamentally the Israelis must know this, and recognise that if they choose to respond in kind they will effectively be declaring war.
No.1825472
>>1825469Nazis aren't known for being level headed and feel entitled to bombing embassies and killing generals without repercussions.
No.1825476
>>1825076>Almost all Israeli Jews are colonialists ergo zionists though. The vast majority of them live currently there because they or their near relatives killed or displaced another group of people. It's not a case of "Oh I didn't know about the genocide.". The majority of the people got there because land was freed through their genocide in the name of their jewish heritage which they support. Think how Nazis were made of majority germans killing in the name of their german superiority but not every german was a nazi but were rather victims of them. You can't divorce Germans in Nazi Germany from Naziism the same way you can't divorce Jews in Colonial Israel from Zionism.Not the guy you're responding to.
Though this made me think of how religion also how cults, ideologies, politics, and religions all share very similar features.
For example, with religion, at least you have people admitting they are part of that religion, despite how they might disagree with each other on many things.
Politics is a fuzzy box, since many believe in the status quo, and have opinions on superficials, but they won't say they are "part of/believe the establishment" or "capitalists" or "nationalists" or whatever, despite sharing many beliefs with whatever ideology.
Same with cults. I bet many think they are "Christians" or whatever parent religion they come from, and that they have "the right" interpretation. However, when you call them cultists, they won't agree.
No.1825477
>>1825373He's a member of the Persian minority in India.
No.1825480
>>1825417Hey at least they're issuing the AF2011 as a standard sidearm. Pretty based.
No.1825481
>>1825446What the fuck is a shivling???
No.1825485
>>1825472Well they better fucking get on with it. The entire international community has warned them not to.
No.1825501
>>1825481Lord Shiva's formidable penis and basically a symbol of masculine creative energy, linked to the feminine one who is symbolised by his goddess wife and her formidable vagina. I may be wrong on some details, but the phallic symbology is really big in India.
No.1825505
"Today we are witnessing an intensity of communications and we will confront and respond to any Israeli aggression.We are ready to use weapons that we have never used before, we have plans for all scenarios, and we call on the Zionists to act rationally"
Spokesman for the Security and Foreign Policy Committee in the Iranian Parliament, Abolfazl Amoei, in #Mashhadiya
#fields
#Iranian_response
https://twitter.com/AlMayadeenNews/status/1779925357828690339 No.1825510
Hospital patients found in a mass grave with bandages, catheters still attached
Doctors were able to identify these bodies as patients. They still had medical bandages and catheters attached to their bodies.
Medical staff inside the hospital confirmed that these people were, in fact, executed by the Israeli military very close to the main gate of al-Shifa Hospital when it was stormed in March.
When the Israeli military stormed it, they destroyed the vast majority of the hospitalโs facilities and equipment as well as the buildings in its vicinity, the majority of them residential buildings, where people had been sheltering since the beginning of this war.
In the northern part of the Gaza Strip, 20 more bodies were discovered buried under the dirt and piles of sand.
It is believed the killings occurred as people were going through a checkpoint that was set up by the Israeli military during its incursion of the northern part of the Strip.
This is the pattern that weโre seeing; this is not the first time mass graves have been discovered. People have been killed and buried under the dirt or run over by Israeli tanks or bulldozers for the past six months.
No.1825513
>>1825507no more brother wars
No.1825514
>>1825511The duality of man
No.1825515
>>1824763>>1824765There is a term for that: manufactured victimization.
No.1825520
>>1825510They're trying to do the worst crimes against humanity they can, while they can.
No.1825522
>>1825510Mass graves discovered at al-Shifa Hospital and in Beit LahiyaTwo mass graves have been discovered by Gazaโs Health Ministry and the Civil Defence Forces in the north of the Gaza Strip.
The first mass grave was discovered at al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza City, and the second was found in Beit Lahiya.
Al Jazeera Arabic correspondent Ismail al-Ghoul, reporting from al-Shifa Hospital, said nine bodies were found before the health officials stopped digging, fearing that they could get targeted by the Israeli drones hovering in the skies above them.
The uncovered bodies had not fully decomposed, which indicated that they had been killed recently.
Some of the people who had been killed and buried appear to have been patients at the hospital and had medical bandages and catheters attached to their bodies.
Family members of the deceased who identified the bodies confirmed that some of those killed were patients. They include an elderly man, a woman, and a man in his 20s.
Doctors and staff from the hospital said that some people were killed outside the main gate (building number 80) of the hospital. Medical staff said they witnessed killings and burials.
In Beit Lahiya, northern Gaza, another mass grave containing about 20 decomposed bodies was discovered.
Residents said the bodies belong to the Al-Assaf family, and said they were killed during an incursion by the Israeli military forces in the area four months ago.
No.1825530
>>1825511>grimYep. We're going to see a lit more of these too, especially in the north.
We even have direct footage of IDF forces murdering civilians and burying the bodies with their (Caterpillar) Diggers.
No.1825531
>>1825501>Lord Shiva's formidable penisoh my, i wonder how trad concervatives in hindu religion feel about this, it's like them greek reactionary return shitters who hate gayness and love alexander
No.1825532
>>1825520>They're trying to do the worst crimes against humanity they can, while they can.A lot of this stuff seems like crimson you don't come back from. Having shattered the illusion of civility they're using the opportunity to nothing 'get the job done' and carry out their lifelong violent fantasies on 'arab' bodies.
Sick society. I always think the best way to understand Israel is to look at America.
>>1825531Where do you think you are? Can you fuck off anywhere else with your chatroom conversation about Indian religion? jfc.
No.1825534
>>1825510Death to all Zionists. Fucking stomach-churning demons. Anyone who even remotely defends Israel or blames KHAMAAAMAAS for using "human shields" is a blight on humanity.
No.1825541
>>1825510do they think no one's going to find the bodies?
No.1825542
>>1825539
Pol
No.1825552
>>1825510>>1825522There will be thousands of bodies discovered across Gaza like this.
No.1825563
>>1825532>'get the job done'But how can it be so difficult to just shoot civilians? Are they that incompetent they have to resort to such siege starvation tactics?
No.1825565
remind me again why anyone would ever support Israel. I saw some of it online on conservative spaces. Conservatives are kind of dumb when it comes to politics, but they can't seriously be so delusional that they'd support literal genocide.
No.1825566
>>1825552I don't think anyone can know the exact total until things settle and a census is made, assuming the data wasn't lost in all the bombings and/or Israel is willing to provide a list of all Palestinians they assigned a Gaza ID, and travel permits that were given during the pre-war timeframe.
No.1825568
>>1825565Hindutva support genocide of muslims. All right-wingers you should be concerned about being fascist-adjacent support Israel, because they also want an ethno-state and to fuck on minorities.
No.1825587
>>1825552>There will be thousands of bodies discovered across Gaza like this.Yep.
>>1825563>Are they that incompetent Yep.
I think their only real plan was to forcibly expel into Egypt.
No.1825596
>>1825501Man i wanna blow a huge load in some goddess pussy
No.1825609
>>1825565>they'd support literal genocideThey literally would?! The zionist are wiping out browns/arabs who they see as sub-humans and they're also a model state for them, right-wings in the west want to do with their own minorities what zionists are doing to palestinians
And no, they're not dumb, they're just evil, fascist scum, the cursed horde
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzS3baHVglk No.1825614
>>1825373There's a conspiracy Khomeini came from a North Indian Sikh family hence why current Iranian flag looks super similar to the Sikh symbol
No.1825625
>>1825623my bet is some salafoid came up with it
they believe all kinds of weird shit about shias
No.1825634
how many rockets, drones etc does Iran have anyway? thousands? tens of thousands? millions?
No.1825635
>>1825634i hope they secretly have nukes
No.1825636
>>1825634I've heard estimates of about 100,000 combined of various types. Take that with a huge grain of salt because I'm extremely fucking stupid.
No.1825646
>>1825635they could probably make some dirty bombs, but nooks require testing. have any test detonations ever been detected?
No.1825647
the fuckers pulled it off. Dropped some good ol bombs and cucked the US without consequence.
No.1825648
>>1825647Be quiet and wait for Israeli response.
No.1825650
>>1825648Al Jazeera reported that the Israelis have completed preparations for their response.
Genuinely curious as to what is holding them back right now.
No.1825654
>>1825650Link sauce, ashol
No.1825655
>>1825648>>1825650wat response? Im pretty sure its all cope at this point by rightoids. If they were going to respond they would have already
No.1825656
Israel will beat Iran no problem, right?
No.1825660
>>1825657>>1825659>Meanwhile spokesperson Daniel Hagari said Monday that because of the relatively minor damage sustained, Israel faces "a variety of options" to respond. "We will do whatever is necessary to protect the State of Israel and we will do it at the time and time we choose," he said.Tell me that doesnt sound like cope. zioncucks are coping hard
No.1825661
>>1825659>>1825654Wasn't Al Jazeera, my bad.
No.1825666
>>1825663https://www.axios.com/2024/04/15/israel-iran-attack-missiles-retaliationIsraeli Minister of Defense Yoav Gallant told Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin Sunday that Israel has no choice but to respond to the unprecedented missile and drone attack launched by Iran over the weekend, a U.S. official and another source briefed on the call told Axios.
No.1825667
Hezbollah operations 04/15/2024:
Sunday, April 14, 2024: targeting the spying equipment at the "Radar" site in the occupied Lebanese Shebaa Farms with appropriate weapons, resulting in direct hits.
06:20: following careful monitoring and anticipation of "israeli" forcesโ movements, the fighters of the Islamic Resistance planted explosive devices in the area of Tal Ismail near the border with occupied Palestine within Lebanese territories. When a force affiliated with the Golan Brigade crossed the border and reached the site of the explosives, they were detonated, resulting in deaths and injuries.
16:55: targeting a gathering of "israeli" soldiers near the "Mitat" outpost with appropriate weapons, resulting in deaths and injuries.
17:00: targeting "israeli" soldiersโ deployment in the "Hanita" forest with rocket weapons and artillery shells, resulting in direct hits.
17:45: targeting the Ruwaisat Al-Alam site in the occupied Lebanese Kfar Shuba hills with rocket weapons, resulting in direct hits.
18:40: targeting the "Radar" site in the occupied Lebanese Shebaa Farms with rocket weapons, resulting in direct hits.
No.1825669
>>1825660>rear admiral, IDF spokesperson>โThis launch of so many missiles, cruise missiles and drones into Israeli territory will be met with a response,โ Halevi said, speaking from the Nevatim air force base in southern Israel, which was lightly damaged in the attack.>Israel Defense Forces chief of staff, Lt Gen Herzi Halevinow be quiet
No.1825673
>>1825666>>1825669since when can you trust the word of these fascists. makes it more likely they wont do shit. If they do respond it will be some milquetoast shit
No.1825674
>>1825673Precisely because they are fascists, act like rabid dogs, and literally never back down, dipshit.
No.1825677
https://vxtwitter.com/IntelCrab/status/1780017032810913957Earlier tonight, alleged Iranian military equipment was spotted on the move along the Azadegan Expresswayโฆ
No.1825678
I just want to point out here that Iran took two weeks to respond to the consulate bombing. It's only been a short time since Iran's response ended, and I'd wait for some time before declaring that no response from Israel is coming.
No.1825679
>>1825678Iran knew that Israel would most likely escalate, and had to prepare multiple tiers of response at the same time. Which is why it took so long.
No.1825681
>>1825678>>1825674That was because Iran did a calculated attack avoiding hurting civilians and focusing on airbases. If youre trying to be logically consistent and they really are rabid dogs, then they shouldnt be taking this long to respond. If they do respond its going to be far weaker in scale then youre all expecting since theyre having to display enough self-control to think this one out
No.1825684
>>1825655>wat response? Im pretty sure its all cope at this point by rightoids. If they were going to respond they would have alreadyWe've had some weeks already of NATO "distancing" themselves from Israel's actions, while reaffirming their alliance. It's not that far fetched that this is setting up an alibi for NATO to acknowledge their part in the hostilities as "defensive" and "reluctant".
No.1825686
>>1825681>this long to respond>it's been less than 24 hoursI don't know what movies you've been watching to have this delusional of a view on how fast war happens, but if Israel is already loading their planes to go attack Iran, it will be a disaster, because Iran is most likely watching their radars like a hawk, and whatever military targets Israel has prepared to strike are empty of all assets.
No.1825687
>>1825681>then they shouldnt be taking this long to respondJust to remind everyone of how stupid these people can be, a war cabinet member wanted to respond DURING the Iranian attack, under the belief that an immediate response would head the crisis off.
No.1825688
>>1825687Which one? Was it Benny "Ligma" Gantz?
No.1825689
>>1825687>>1825686Yeah so whats different this time is what Im asking? Id be willing to believe the restraint is US collabing with them to create some longer term war or something along those lines. Or that theyre thinking this one out to prevent more escalation. Or maybe US has just brought them to heel for a bit
No.1825690
>>1825688I think it's somewhere in the previous thread. It'd be funny if the entire Middle East weren't at stake. It would have literally been like trying to put out a fire with gasoline.
No.1825693
>>1825689The difference is that Israel conducts assassinations in Iran, not bombing runs. And Iran never attacked Israel like this before. This is new.
No.1825696
>>1824951Yeah, itโs definitely chilling. There were a lot of different opinions on what to do with the Natives as America expanded, and I believe Jefferson fell on the โassimilationโ side of the debateโwhich might be what he meant by โjusticeโ. While frankly paternalistic and racist it was still tempered with a kind of enlightenment idealism, at least compared to Jacksonโs genocidal megalomania.
No.1825698
War cabinet said set on โforcefulโ response to Iran, but one that wonโt spark wider war
>Times of Israel
Looks like the Zioncunts had their leash pulled
No.1825707
>>1825698>The war cabinet on Monday afternoon wrapped up a discussion on Israelโs response to Iranโs massive missile and drone barrage, amid calls for Jerusalem to exercise caution, so as not to spark a regional war, and reports that a retaliatory move could come โas soon as Monday.โNice editorial title.
>The response would also be designed to make plain that Israel will not allow the Iranians to โestablish the equationโ they have sought to assert in recent days, the report said. This was an apparent reference to Iranโs warning that future Israeli strikes on Iranian territory, including its international diplomatic premises, will henceforth again be met by Iranian retaliatory strikes on Israel.So. Wider war it is.
No.1825713
>>1825609Long time since I've listened to this song, funny how every single line perfectly fits with the Palestinian resistance and their righteous cause
No.1825716
Why the fuck did Israel even go apeshit in the first place, did they really have to bomb an embassy
No.1825718
>>1825716Are you seriously asking why are fascists unhinged apes?
No.1825724
>>1825721>>1825717It is up to Assad, and only Assad now, to restore Mashiri pride and Arab socialism, does he realize it?
No.1825727
>>1825698>one that wonโt spark wider warThings one says with the cops at your back.
>>1825716>Why the fuck did Israel even go apeshit in the first place, did they really have to bomb an embassyThey probably expected the Nakba2 to have started the war on Iran already, and NATO to have stepped step in, even if to de-escalate. But instead of playing to whatever chauvinist stereotypes the US had in mind, the "axis of resistance" played it just as cynically, resulting in the US soft power and consent for the deed, disintegrating much faster than the Palestinian resistance.
So gotta force a bigger conflict with Iran, somehow. Since they called Israel's bluff on the Gaza pogrom.
No.1825731
>>1825730I miss him so much bros
Gonna start a new TSL Earth campaign as Babylon in Civ V
No.1825734
So how is Iran's cornor is Iraq? I think if a wider conflict occurs there's a serious possibility of a military coup in both Iraq and Jordan in the direction of Iran. If this occurs Egypt and the Gulf states are irrelevant as Iran will basically have control of Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, and Jordan. This would be a complete land bridge to isntreal. Let me be clear this won't happen until a decent bit into a serious wider regional war. Even just getting iraq is a serious blow to the West's efforts and I see it more likely then Jordan.
No.1825736
>>1825734Iran having control over the entire Mashriq + Yemen sounds like a true nightmare for zionazis I can see why their government is reaching out towards Egypt and Gulf Nations for any support they can muster
No.1825737
>>1825386The Mandate of Heaven cannot be legally practiced in the US
No.1825739
>>1825699Come on, what's the song name? I know there's an English one but I'm vibing the Arabic version of the short you posted
No.1825742
>>1825677>Earlier tonight, alleged Iranian military equipment was spotted on the move along the Azadegan ExpresswayโฆIran has also suspended international inspectors from going to nuclear sites due to the risk, it had also closed some as of Sunday.
If Israel does respond in spectacular fashion it will likely be something they have done before and gotten away with, to make it appear more tame.
>>1825681>If they do respond its going to be far weaker in scale then youre all expecting since theyre having to display enough self-control to think this one outProbably. Any seriously dramatic action would have been done right after I think, anything we see will be more measured than could have been, even it was said within the war cabinet that the longer they leave it the less international support and legitimacy for their actions they will have.
No.1825745
Anyone want to place bets on what the Israeli response will be?
No.1825748
>>1825736If Iran gets Jordan and Iraq it's game set match complete checkmate. What will Egypt/Gulf States do? Completely ally with Israel and America that's a one way ticket to civil war for them. What will they risk their oil wealth with an Iranian wipeout of their facilities? I can very much see 2 things happening soon.1. Jordans and especially Iraq get a African style military coup (they are already as puppeted to the West as possible this is the only counter position) 2. If Egypt/Gulf States dare to try to align with the West, they will at best look like Sudan, at worst for the West look like what I'm thinking will happen to Iraq/Jordan. If this shift occurs a major disruption in the West's hegemony will occur. With how China and Russia are courting Egypt/Gulf States already loosening them from the West what I'm Invisioning would be the nail in the coffin.
TLDR My Kissingerian realpolitik glasses show me that the West's current global hegemony relies on the control of Jordan/Iraq
No.1825750
>>1825748Unbelievably delusional.
No.1825751
>>1825750Mate the material conditions are (if a wider war breaks out) going to rapidly shift. This will change the geopolitical map worse then the fall of the Ottomans after WW1. Israel is dangerously risking everything the West built in the 20th century no anon YOUR DELUSIONAL!
No.1825753
>>1825188Yet Adam Something praises literal Nazis and nothing happens.
No.1825756
>>1825693>The difference is that Israel conducts assassinations in Iran, not bombing runs. And Iran never attacked Israel like this before. This is new.Israel bombed the Parchin facilities a few years ago.
>>1825734>I think if a wider conflict occurs there's a serious possibility of a military coup in both Iraq and Jordan in the direction of Iran. IDK about that but certainly this is going to be the stem of many changes in the region. Do really think people as a whole are failing ot grasp how much everything has changed now.
>>1825745Some faggery daggery spy bullshit probably, they'll kill someone they can at least pass off as relatively high ranking whilst some poor rube or unwitting vulture will be imprisoned or shot and everyone will forget about it.
I guess that's be best outcome for everybody at least.
No.1825758
>>1825681What if they lob a nuke on Iran? Does anyone think the U.S. would condemn Israel if they used the nuke option?
No.1825760
>>1825750>Believes a war that I'm mentioning being magnitudes worse then the 6th day way won't radically change geopolitics>Believes millions and millions of people in the Arab world will willingly die for the West when we're already on the edge of another Arab spring(Yes a second reply by me)
No.1825762
>>1825727No, Israel is fully Great Man brained, and fully believe their own farts about everything in the Middle East being Iranian proxies. So when the proxies act up, they take it out on Iranian commanders.
No.1825765
>>18257452-3 week preparation and an attack 3x or higher, up to wipe them out level or
>>1825756 <- what this anon said and I honestly can't read which it'll be.
No.1825766
>The Israel Defence Forces (IDF) have reportedly developed artificial-intelligence (AI) tools known as โThe Gospelโ and โLavenderโ to โmarkโ suspected operatives of Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad, two militant groups, as targets for bombing, according to Israeli officers familiar with the systems.
>literally imitating Marvel Super-Nazis
Who do you think the AI will tell them to target in iran?
No.1825771
If the zionist entity can use America likely and what I'm talking about with Iraq/Jordan don't occur. I believe with the full weight of NATO/Israel they can reduce Iran to a place really only capable of guerilla warfare. (Enough to protect Iran but no longer project power not to mention reduce it to a state able for color revolution) What Iran is capable of is not enough to be the last one standing in case of a purely missile/air power battle. If Iran is reduced to that, the Palestinian cause is basically concluded. The zionist and the apparatus of Western imperialism are counting on this. They plan to complete the nakba and send the middle East into a century of humiliation and really it'd be a second one at that. Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about with Jordan and Iraq but the resistance NEEDS this or it's finished.
No.1825779
>>1825714>>1825739
song PLS
No.1825795
>>1825779One of the variations of Aaron Smith - Dancin (KRONO Remix)
No.1825803
>>1825795I know but I want the Arabic version in the video
No.1825804
>>1825748I hope Sadat is burning in hell at the moment
No.1825805
>>1825748Another thing I can see happening in the near future is Syria + Iraq unifying as one country in the near future, the peoples of these two nations love each other the most in the region, and they share identical problems too
No.1825809
>>1825807
>Me
Lie. That's Will Smith.
Go back twitteroid.
No.1825813
>>1825766How does this AI even work though
No.1825815
>Analysis from the UN Satellite Centre (UNOSAT) has found that 33.13 percent of Gazaโs agricultural land was damaged as of February 2024.
>This was a significant increase from October 2023, when just 5.36 percent of crop fields, arable and fallow lands was damaged, an increase of more than 11,000 square kilometres, according to UNOSAT.
>โThe decline in the health and density of the cropsโ was caused by โrazing, heavy vehicle activity, bombing, shellingโ and conflict more generally, UNOSAT said.
No.1825821
>>1825477The Persian minority in India are Zoroastrians, not Muslim.
No.1825826
>U.N. Secretary-General Antรณnio Guterres said it was time to โstep back from the brinkโ as a chorus of world leaders urged restraint. President Joe Biden has warned Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu against launching new strikes on Iran. He said the U.S. would not participate in any offensive actions against Iran but has privately said he fears that Netanyahu is trying to drag the U.S. into a wider conflict, officials told NBC News.
So are we to believe that Israeli nuts are off the leash of the US and trying to drag burgers into their war, or is US lying and feigning ignorance meanwhile planning their invasion of Iran together
No.1825828
>>1825739i'ts just a sped up remix of aaron smith - dancin
No.1825836
>>1825826I read something once about a golden child of narcissistic parents getting so fucking upset the first time theyโre told โnoโ (by grandparents mind you) that they threw a massive temper tantrum, broke shit, and locked themselves in a room and threatened to kill themselves. Their parents could only plead the grandparents to give in because they were afraid sheโd actually do it.
I think Israel is that golden child for America.
No.1825837
>>1825826>[Biden] fears that Netanyahu is trying to drag the U.S. into a wider conflictdude, just turn off the dome and leave cyprus: you won't have to worry about netanyahu very long I promise.
>>1825836you'd think the shine would come off after the first mass grave atrocity
No.1825839
>>1825771>I believe with the full weight of NATO/Israel they can reduce Iran to a place really only capable of guerilla warfare.Nah, it's the other way around. If Iran really wanted, Iran could flatten Israel into stone age
No.1825847
The ideal Palestinian strategy is constant economic siege on Israel, not a quick-and-dirty escalation. Samson means that Israel can't be Zerg-rushed, but constant political doubt and pressure via Shaheeds, Qassams, etc, can create a constant gap in the Israeli treasury and any actually successful hits would make Israel uninvestible.
Military warfare by itself cannot achieve success in Israel, but military warfare as a means of economic warfare can.
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Re: Iran, yeah, Iran can be reduced to guerrilla warfare by NATO. Out of Russia, China, and Iran, Iran is the weakest link with the smallest economy and the least population.
The question isn't whether or not Iran can be defeated, but how much damage the Iranians can do back to the occupation force. Given Iranian technological advances, probably a lot, which is why I actually want NATO / Israel to go attempt to occupy Iran to bog them down in an inexorable quagmire.
No.1825855
>>1825839I was probably underestimating them. I suppose it's a mutually assured destruction event. I Say within a month they basically ruin each other.
>>1825847If Iran sacrifices itself gets a color revolution… but Israel is no more I suppose that's a win for the resistance. It's horrific to think this might mean 2-4+ million deaths though. Though what's the point of moralizing, like the material contradictions aren't already in motion beyond the control of any party. My fear here
>>1825771 is Iran gets isolated isreal survives… If the color revolution… Occurs the Islamic Republic of Iran falls it's proxy's fan out and though Israel is barely breathing still has a pulse, that will likey be because of said isolation. I can see no event that happens with Iraq especially if not Jordan on Iran's side. I believe the Islamic world of West Asia hates America and Israel more then Iran and I think the geopolitics will show this but I can't say exactly how. It's up to the national bourgeoisie though to see were the winds go and just how much power Western hegemony has.
No.1825863
>>1825748>>1825734It's rather obvious that you know fuck all about Iraq and recent events there.
Look up the October demonstrations. In 2019 Iraq witnessed a resurgence in nationalist, anti-sectarian sentiment. A sentiment that the US imperialists and the Iranian clerical regime tried to bury to the best of their abilities, for long they tried equating any resemblance of Iraqi nationalism or socialism to Ba'athisim. So Iraq would forever be divided trembled over by foreign powers. For the Zionist occupation, the Iranian theocracy and Gulf rental states know what a strong, sovereign Iraq is capable of.
Endless wars exacerbated these divsions until very recently when the material contradictions have reached their zenith. Endless death, crippling poverty, brutal austerity, astonishing inequality, exploitation, repression, rapidly rising unemployment, illness, drugs, total social, economic and environmental degradation. This is what Iraq has been like for over 20 years under neoliberalism after its disastrous shock therapy, an unjust system violently imposed by imperialists and their reactionary lackeys. Its effects can be felt everyday from Zako to Basra.
To quote Noami Klein
>A people, starved and sickened by sanctions, then pulverized by war, is going to emerge from this trauma to find that their country has been sold out from under them. They will also discover that their newfound โfreedomโ โ for which so many of their loved ones perished โ comes pre-shackled with irreversible economic decisions that were made in boardrooms while the bombs were still falling. They will then be told to vote for their new leaders, and welcomed to the wonderful world of democracy.When in 2019 Iraqis tried to use every mean avaliable to them within the system to seek change. They were met with bullets by IRGC militias and indifference by the west, who are the primary beneficiaries of the status quo. While a thousand Iraqis, mostly students, were massacred, the world was busy mourning over Hong Kong where virtually no protester lost their life. But it made for cool photo OPs with red, white and blue flags, something the Iraqi protests lacked.
While the protests were suppressed violently and protests virtually ceased with the help of covid. It taught Iraqis that the only way towards change is revolutionary change through violence. The same violence that the comprador bourgeoisie have used against them for decades. As if Iraqis wanted a reminder of their failed system, when they have one of the lowest voter turn out rates in the world. Next time tears will be met with blood. If you want a preview look up the 1920 and 1958 Iraqi revolutions.
The status quo is unsustainable. You can feel the panic the ruling class felt in 2019 when it resorted to massacring people. No doubt change is coming. The only question is, will it be progressive or reactionary? As it stands, I can predict the outcome by imaging what the Iraqi worker feels when he turns his head to the international left to see mostly those cheering for his misery, to them he is devoid of struggle and only exists as a pawn in their geopolitical game, and occasionally as a perpetual victim whose suffering is to be exploited for their own agenda.
No.1825865
>>1825855It's revolution; millions of people will die, but hopefully for a decent cause.
Iran itself seems antsy and doesn't want a fight, given the "scale" of its attack. However, if the Israelis choose to escalate the Iranians no longer have a choice.
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Good ol' Iranians having children march through minefields, each of them holding a plastic "key to heaven" made in Taiwan.
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Israeli's GDP shrunk by an annualized 20% in Q4, or about 5% Q/Q. We need to see how well the Israeli economy holds up; simply zero-ing them means that increasing military spending costs will begin to weight on their integrity.
But as with Russia, states with decent finances (Israel is 60% debt to GDP) can last quite some time; if the strain is comparable to Russia, they can likely hold out for a decade or more of constant economic pressure.
No.1825874
>>1825813Fucked if I know. But it resulted in a swaths of journalists getting murked in Gaza.
No.1825876
>>1825866Is this fucking real????
LMAO No.1825881
>>1825876Which is why Iran would probably like to remain paranuclear; i.e, once they have nukes, they're staring at a nuclear exchange with Israel every time Hezbollah launches rockets.
If the shit actually hits the fan, or it looks like both sides are going to full-scale war, Iran will go nuclear to end the conflict. So, while the Iranians would like to maintain the possibility of going nuclear, they'd rather continue to hold the Palestinian resistance on a leash, and not become a "mature" "responsible" nuclear power until avoidance is an impossibility.
No.1825892
>>1825863Thanks for educating me on current Iraqi conditions. Admittedly I've found it hard to search what's happening on the ground and what's the sentiment. Even more embarrassingly I being discouraged by this struggle haven't tried as hard as I should. I loosely know of Iraq's struggle with Iran back to their war in the 80's and I've loosely understood that Iran wants them as a client state. Which lead to me gooning about geopolitics shows I can at least see Iran's interest in Iraq despite my ignorance. If this goes regional I still want to believe that the beef with Iran isn't as potent as the hatred for the Yankee zionist. What I'm hoping for maybe to restate it ideally, would be like the Sahel alliance in Africa but for the region in-between the nations between Israel and Iran. This would allow for a joint effort with Iran against Israel without permanent submission to Iran which I don't want in fact once Iran serves it's purpose with Israel it's government can go for all I care.
No.1825893
>>1825881Also, notably for Iran in this situation, holding nukes makes them a higher priority target. They haven't needed nukes so far to prevent regime change, so obtaining nukes would not necessarily be in their interest in that capacity either. The possibility of Iran getting nukes has already demonstrably functioned as a pretty effective geopol chesspiece for them.
No.1825897
I don't know shit about the mechanics of the way nukes work. I know they have to enruch uranium to a certain form. Can't they just make some kind of half nuke bomb or am I utterly retarded?
No.1825900
>>1825897>am I utterly retardedYes, you are.
Dirty bombs are worse than nuclear bombs.
No.1825906
>>1825900In what way? Don't exhaust yourself in a reply but I'd like to know.
No.1825909
>>1825906"Dirty bomb" means using regular explosives to scatter and deliberately contaminate an area with radioactive material.
Nuclear bomb means using nuclear fission or fusion to release energy and create an explosive, which results in less radioactivity over its lifetime.
No.1825910
>>1825897Nukes are already half bomb.
Quick rundown is that you need a subcritical mass of fissile material that you hit with more fissile material so it turns critical, you need to do blabla so you do a chain reaction that is self-sustaining, blabla standing for big enough mass or using mirrors to keep reflect the neutrons back into the mass.
No.1825920
>>1825913>>1825909>>1825910Ok thanks anons had some idiotic notion it'd
be worth something even in that state, now see that it's pointless and does nothing over high grade conventional bombs. I suppose that if the dirty bomb can't cause a fission reaction it certainly can't do enough for a fusion reaction in a hydrogen bomb because the fission reaction has to occur for the subsequent fusion reaction in a hydrogen bomb. It's not that I was wrong in thinking it's fuck shit up but I now realize it's bring much more anger international then a nuke.
No.1825924
>>1825826Brandon could just say โlol step down as prime minister or we wonโt fund youโ and that will solve his problem.
No.1825964
>>1825698>one that wonโt spark wider warlol>
>1825913>a nuke turns the radioactive material into non-radioactive materialno lol, plenty of daughter products are also radioactive. it doesn't create any transuranics though, unless we're talking about plutonium bombs
No.1825987
>>1825826Israel is Trump-pilled. They want to construct new attrocity porn for the elections so that Trump could claim that Biden abandoned Israel for Ukraine.
USA abandoning Ukraine for Israel after the election is RETVRN TO TRADITION.
No.1825988
>>1825863>>1825892Such civil discussion on my leftypol
No.1826001
>>1825881that's a little silly. if iran gains second strike capability it forces israel to pull their fucking head in, probably kills israel economically when they can't also do murder and steal oilfields.
>>1825897sort of. modern nukes are way higher yield than the minimum fissile material for a nuclear explosion, tactical warheads with hypersonic delivery would still fuck shit the fuck up, no need to make the ICBM version if you can just hold a sword over the most moral nation on earth.
>>1825900>>1825909no they're not. the nuclear fallout of a dirty bomb is relatively contained and not the civilization ending consequences of a nuclear strike. I'd recommend "War Games" by the inimitable Peter Watkin. the dirty bomb is bush era propaganda, but it's more anxiety inducing than effective. it's one contaminated block/building vs part of a city being vaporized, and those that survive being blinded and given lethal doses of radiation from the flash and the fallout.
in a nuclear strike the living would envy the dead. a vast number of the survivors would die quickly from their skin falling off, others would take weeks to die painfully as their body dies and rots from the inside out. Any humanitarian effort to help the victims is frustrated by the fallout, and much of it would be futile palliative care. The suffering is passed on in generations of survivors through genetic damage.
if israel drops the bomb it's fucking over for them. there is no fucking way the world could forgive them for committing a nuclear holocaust immediately after a conventional one. it's a crime against life itself.
finally while we're talking nukes: we should never have forgiven the US for testing fallout on the marshall islanders.
No.1826009
>>1826001So your saying a dirty bomb can be used in a targeted way in some applications. For example one could use one of a smaller scale and say hit an settler area while saving a Palestinian area, say even 5-10 certainly 20+ miles away. I must state this isn't a desire I seek to know their capacity
No.1826013
>>1826009>So your saying a dirty bomb can be used in a targeted way…nah I'm saying a dirty bomb is fucking useless. however instead of pulling a north korea and making "strategic" nukes that go to space and reach washington, states can make smaller "tactical" nukes that fit the payload of missiles they already have. "tactical" nukes would be plenty for iran because they only have to be able to reach tel-aviv to radically shift the balance of power from colonial genocide to islamic gommunism.
No.1826025
>>1826001>if israel drops the bomb it's fucking over for them. there is no fucking way the world could forgive them for committing a nuclear holocaust immediately after a conventional one. it's a crime against life itself.you mean like when amerikkka dropped not one but two nukes
No.1826039
>>1825717>>1825715You retards realize Sadaam was put there by the CIA to tip the scales of the Baath party in Iraq to the nationalists favour right?
Dumbasses
No.1826122
>>1825910>Quick rundown is that you need a subcritical mass of fissile material that you hit with more fissile material so it turns critical, you need to do blabla so you do a chain reaction that is self-sustaining, blabla standing for big enough mass or using mirrors to keep reflect the neutrons back into the massAnd sciencefags expect us to believe this low effort trash.
No.1826248
Whats the next move? What will happen next?
No.1826302
>>1825714Dancing by Aaron Smith
No.1826416
>>1825010whiteness isn't real. pan everopean identity is a spook. it's impossible to be racist to white people because they don't even exist. people who think of themselves as white have been indoctrinated.
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