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Remember!!: R.I.P. Turtle Tank

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Evidence of the influence and origin of neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine
https://archive.ph/44B9Q
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323637
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323658
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323663
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323688
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323729
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323733
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323731
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323735
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323740

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ALWAYS APPROACH SOURCES CRITICALLY

Live maps and updates
DeepStateMap: https://deepstatemap.live
Events in Ukraine: https://eventsinukraine.substack.com/
SouthFront: https://southfront.org/category/all-articles/world/europe/ukraine/

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>Video Essays / Historical Background
📺 Ukraine: The Avoidable War - Boy Boy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL4eNy4FCs8

📺 America, Russia, and Ukraine's Far Right - Gravel Institute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0pyVJG7_6Q (Link TBA)

📺 Crimea vs Taiwan: Who Gets Self-Determination? - BadEmpanada
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W_UH4fmyj0

📺 The Nature of Putin's Russia and Its Causes (3-Part Series) - 1Dime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8d6Vzi7zYg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zODWTfMwFGw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZN1KK9Mzuo

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📺 The Duran: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdeMVChrumySxV9N1w0Au-w
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 No.1837929

The lawyer is still kicking.

 No.1837931

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>>1837911
The depleted uranium ammo is already showing its effects, huh

 No.1837942

>>1837740
Oh, he's still alive?

 No.1837943

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>>1837740
retvrn

 No.1837947

Russia has recovered a disabled Abrams tank from the frontlines.

https://southfront.press/russian-army-captures-first-american-made-abrams-tank-videos/

 No.1837948

>>1837302
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-42724-us-admits-top-weapons

>The US and NATO plan to create a “gray” zone in Western Ukraine


>Soros' son Alexander agreed with the Ukrainian authorities to allocate 400 square kilometers of agricultural land to American corporations for the disposal of hazardous waste, according to an investigation by French journalist Jules Vincennes.


>He writes, citing a source in the Ministry of Agriculture of Ukraine, that in November, Soros Jr. and the head of Zelensky’s office, Yermak, reached an agreement according to which Kiеv indefinitely and free of charge transfers land in the Ternopоl, Khmelnytsky and Chernоvtsi regions for the disposal of hazardous waste from chemical, pharmaceutical and oil production.


>Among the companies named are Dow Chemical, DuPont, BASF, Evonik Industries, Vitol and Sanofi. We remind you that Dow Chemical is the company which provided Agent Orange and Napalm to the American military to poison and destroy Vietnam. Whilst BASF is the company which provided Zyklon B to the Nazis.


>Probably, the decision was made after the destruction in the spring of 2023 by the Russian Armed Forces of ammunition depots with depleted uranium located in the Khmelnitsky and Ternopоl regions.


>This situation threatens an environmental disaster not only for Ukraine, but also for other countries in Eastern Europe and the Black Sea basin as a whole.


>Kiеv and Washington continue to use all means to prevent the possible entry of Western Ukrainian regions into the Russian Federation in the context of the ongoing retreat of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

 No.1837957

>>1837740
new call of doodoo campaign just dropped, playing as a russian SpecOp mercenary group hunting down kony somwhere in africa, your helicopter gets shotdown by child soldiers and falls into a river, you wake up realizing you've been saved by your squad, captain Pricinovich, gel lotion mactavish and Sans the skeleton, all four of you go on a murdering campaign inna jungle, maybe even doing a few warcrimes but it's okay because you stood still sad looking at the screen with a conflicted face after doing the warcrime which means you're still the good guy, after pulling a one liner to justify the warcrime like saying "we get covered in shit, and the worlds keeps it's bidet" you continue on your murdering spree using your very light equipments of a nightvision, mini drones, C4, kevlar, four frag grenades, four flashbangs, an AC130 gunship segment and a modified rifle and a sidearm that you'll ditch for the enemy's AK and smaller AKs as soon as you run out of ammo, after four missions of non stop killings and taking cover to regenerate everytime you take a bullet to the face, you catch Kony, but it turns out to be Makarov doing a black face the whole time, but you don't understand because your russian mercenary group are the GOOD russians and he is the BAD russian.

 No.1837959

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 No.1837960

>>1837787
It takes 3 years to train up from scratch. Any experienced fighter pilot can fly an F-16 with some training, but to master its particularities takes longer, same as any modern aircraft and even early aircraft. Piloting isn't like riding a bike where you can just fail until you get the hang of it.

 No.1837971

>>1837787
Just don't take attrition 4Head

 No.1837974

>>1837947
Based. Will it make it to Moscow in time for Victory Day? Find out in the next episode of SMO Z!

 No.1837976

>>1837833
>This propaganda is quite similar to the propaganda they have at Fuhrerburger.

 No.1837978

>>1837960
The opinions that I've read have called cross-training Ukrainian pilots on the f-16 is basically impossible because of the language barrier and because at such speeds you're more reliant on muscle memory than anything, so you're fighting to override their slavjet training.

 No.1837979

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>>1837948
Just evil. Fuck…

 No.1837995

>>1837948
funny to see Yuri bezemnov there. he turned out to be Z-gang

 No.1837997

>>1837978
Damn, is piloting fighterjets really that hard?

 No.1837999

>>1836432
yes but the worse their products are the more money the arms contractors make, so everything they deliver is as broken as possible.

 No.1838001

>>1837997
not really, NATO jets are just needlessly complex so they can charge more for them.

 No.1838010

>>1837978
Older Ukrainian Su-27 pilots have flown F-16s, but most of the were shot down earlier in the war, so what Ukraine is left with is the less experienced pilots who will not be able to become more than mediocre on these new aircraft. But frankly even if they had 5 years of training, it wouldn't matter. I posted this in >>>/AKM/ a while back, but a few years back a very experienced Ukrainian Su-27 pilot (who later died in combat during the SMO), flew an F-16 and considered its capabilities largely inferior to the Soviet-era Su-27 he was already flying, with only the electronics being notably better. Given the F-16 model was a modern one, and his Su-27 was a 1990s model, that's a given. The point is, the F-16 is not going to solve issues, hell planes like the A-10, or Su-25 and Su-24 are more needed, since air-ground is more prevalent than air-air. The F-16 requires tons of maintenance, is by no means a close range strike-aircraft and it's single engine has always been the subject of criticism, as many suffered crashes from damage that would be negated simply by having a second engine like the F-18.
The ONLY advantage the F-16 has is that NATO supplied ground attack missiles won't need to be modified to interface with the F-16s systems, compared to the Soviet aircraft in Ukrainian use, but that's negligible.

TL;DR: F-16s offer little to no advantage over something like the Su-27 or Su-24 and are going to be SAM fodder.

>>1837974
We've got a few weeks, the Leo-2 got fixed up enough for display in a week, and I reckon the same for the Abrams.

 No.1838013

>>1837997
I'm not an expert but it makes sense to me. You're strapped to a rocket going at insane speeds, in an environment where weapons just as fast or faster are getting lobbed at you. You've got to make split second decisions while performing several actions at once on top of the physical forces acting on your body. It doesn't seem like the kind of thing that you can just pick up in a matter of weeks or months.

When I was younger and learning the drums, my instructor was really particular on practicing the proper method so as not to pick up "bad habits" that negatively effect your playing, because once those habits are ingrained you have to train twice as hard to unlearn them. I imagine trying to learn on an entirely different weapon system with an entirely language etc is a pretty huge task

 No.1838073

>>1838010
the SU-27 is a higher caliber of fighter, yes, and much more capable due to being a dual engine, but anyone who isnt a total dipshit understood that before.

the F-16 is like the MiG-29. it's not as good as the top notch model (F-15) but it's cheap enough to mass produce, rugged enough to fly anywhere and good enough to do MOST things.

all the nafo waffentwerps who act like the F-16 is some magical UFO that will break Erich Hartmann's record over the skies of Ukraine were always delusional.

the F-16 is the toyota corolla of jets, and its still probably the best and most capable airplane the Ukrops can actually operate. the others are too fragile.

 No.1838076

>>1838010
>Leo-2 got fixed up enough for display in a week, and I reckon the same for the Abrams
I think you should actually click the link and look at the image before you decide that that is a real fix'er-upper.

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Zgang in tatters

 No.1838138

>>1838083
>Blood and soil patch
Of course…

 No.1838163

>>1838073
> F-16 is the toyota corolla of jets
Doesn't Ukraine have to keep clean airstrips and deal with much more hassle in maintenance compared to their soviet jets? Doesn't sound as simple as a corolla.

 No.1838184

>>1838163
The f-16 needs pristine runways, yeah.

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>>1838083
>free of charge

 No.1838248

>>1838076
The Leo-2 was in similar condition externally (which is what matters for a display vehicle), the damage on the outside is primarily outer sensors destroyed and some armor panels displaced such as the blow-outs. Suspension is a bit damaged too but that, along with the road-wheels and tracks is maybe a week's work in a proper tank-repair shop. The internals are fucked on this particular Abrams (there's another that has an intact fighting compartment but I'm not sure if it's been recovered yet, as footage from inside it was filmed by Russian troops a while back. I wouldn't underestimate Russian repairwork, I've seen some fucked-up vehicles that look beyond repair, be up and running in 2 weeks, sent back to battle again.

>>1838073
>the SU-27 is a higher caliber of fighter, yes, and much more capable due to being a dual engine, but anyone who isnt a total dipshit understood that before.
And yet the F-16 was being touted as a gamechanger or otherwise meaning something important.
>rugged enough to fly anywhere
*laughs in maintenence crew* Are you having me on? The F-16 is one of the most tempermental planes in the USAF only surpassed by the F-35. Even the F-18 or F-22 aren't as accident prone. There's a reason single engine fighters are not very popular.
>the F-16 is the toyota corolla of jets
If only
>its still probably the best and most capable airplane the Ukrops can actually operate. the others are too fragile.
Ukraine rejected Australian F-18s. F-18s are prone to accidents as well, but they're a very rugged design, far more than the F-16, and have better chances in such a heavy SAM environment, as they've got an engine that can possibly keep the plane in the air enough to reach base or at least let the pilot properly eject, they're easier to maintain, more familiar as they have similar internals to a MiG-29 and have a lower crash rate than F-16s by several magnitudes. The heavy undercarriage, meant for carrier operations, also means they're better suited for fucked up runways and are capable of shorter take-off and landings as well. Only a skilled F-16 pilot can do a very short take-off and its a risky maneuver even then, let alone in the hands of inexperienced Ukrainians.

 No.1838293

>>1837948
once again, hudson

 No.1838295

>>1837997
CJ from San Andreas did it in like 2 months, how hard can it be

 No.1838301

>>1837877
Thanks. My dad insists that the "promise not to expand" was "bad diplomacy from the Soviets" who were "dumb to not get it in writing."

 No.1838302

>>1838248

it's not even really a matter of maintenence, the dills can just ship them back to poland. the problem is their airfields. the only american plane that can operate from runways and hangars like that is the F-16.

 No.1838303

You can't convince me that it takes 2+ years to train already-pilots for this. They're stalling for different reasons.

 No.1838310

>>1838303
They're running out of carrots for the stick

 No.1838327

>>1838010
>air to air not needed
Air to air is most direly needed for Ukraine, to deal with the glide bomb launchers.

>>1838073
>>1838248
Ukrainian Su-27 and Mig-29 are vastly inferior to the F-16 because they have no good BVR missiles and much larger RCS than the F-16.

 No.1838329

>>1838327
Ah, but Russians have anti-air superiority. You can't launch air-to-air

 No.1838330

>>1838329
Ukrainians use AASM Hammer and JDAM-ER at targets several km behind the front, which means they could get close enough to launch a D model AMRAAM at Russian aircraft.

 No.1838334

>>1838330
every once in a while comes a /k/oper who keeps on jerking off to Westoid tech superiority. Is that you?

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 No.1838343

>>1838303
It takes four-five years to train from scratch a Western fast jet pilot. Ukrops also haven't been sent to train in large numbers for two years.

But yes they are stalling because they know even if the F-16s are very successful against Russian aviation that the dumb ass Ukrops will lose a bunch to even short range SAMs trying to do tactical bombing etc.

 No.1838350

>>1837873
Punching the liberal in the face. They are disingenuous and will dance around no matter how much evidence is shown because there was no formal treaty promising no NATO expansion.

 No.1838353

>>1838350
Besides, they are good guys, and lying and cheating and stealing is allowed to good guys, they have the plot immunity tp criticism just like Harry Potter

 No.1838369

>>1838350
Any promise or treaty doesn't matter anyway because the operating principle is dealing with the division of the world between self regulating petit bourgeois democracy and ancient tyrannical civilization or empire full of stupid people governed by a despot. If capitalism polarizes us over this division inherited from colonialism it takes precedence. The problem is the stagnation of democracy being blamed on barriers to capitalism rather than it transforming into a global dictatorship in the absence of them

 No.1838408

>>1838343
>It takes four-five years to train from scratch a Western fast jet pilot.
But why? They're supposed to pilot one, not build one from scratch. If this shit needs a fucking masters degree to operate, it is an utter failure in terms of usability.

 No.1838414

>>1838408
Because combat flying isn't just getting the plane off the ground and being able to land it again. It takes around two years before an infantryman is considered fully trained by Western standards.

Sure they could get Ukrops out launching missiles on a much shorter time frame but the fatality rate will be significantly increased.

 No.1838417

>>1838408
>>1838414
Also every Western airforce is actually having massive issues with fast jet pilots now. The boomers are retiring from airline jobs so the pay there is much better without all the military bullshit. This compounds the issue with training these pilots costing 5-10 million USD (depending on jet).

 No.1838418

>>1838417
the USAF has a pilot shortage from what I've heard

 No.1838423

>>1838418
It's literally everyone. The airline industry for decades was subsidised by all the Cold War jet pilots. But with the force drawdowns in the '90s and declining generation cohorts there isn't enough jet pilots to take the place of the Cold War boomers as they retire.

There was/is also fuckery over the last ten years with the assumption that drones would obsolete pilots in the near future. And that human pilots would be needed in smaller numbers to fly F-35 "motherships" coordinating UCAVs.

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New wunderwaffe : Token portable, weapons grade Irony

‘My example can change minds’: Roma fighting for place in postwar Ukraine
<Campaigners across Europe call on Kyiv to recognise contribution of marginalised community
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/29/roma-postwar-ukraine

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