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Ukraine: The Avoidable War - Boy Boy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL4eNy4FCs8📺
America, Russia, and Ukraine's Far Right - Gravel Institute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0pyVJG7_6Q (Link TBA)
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Crimea vs Taiwan: Who Gets Self-Determination? - BadEmpanada
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W_UH4fmyj0📺
The Nature of Putin's Russia and Its Causes (3-Part Series) - 1Dime
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No.1833484
>A shrubbery!
No.1833486
>>1833458>Is it true that anglos are gutting welfare for ukrop aid?The UK has been gutting its state services for a long time now. There is coming up an election and a right wing opposition so its going to glare up again.
>How likely is a revolutionLow to nonexistent. The struggle against austerity politics and etc basically culminated in and was subsumed by the Corbyn movement which was completely smashed from multiple directions.
No.1833517
>>1833495>opinionswait for his de-legging footage
No.1833533
>>1833527What are they gonna do if they won't come? I'd rather spend my time in prison than die for Nazi Ukraine
No.1833538
>>1832809>Eyyy someone posted the pic I posted in the RWBY thread!I found it completely randomly a few days ago. I don't remember where.
I'm learning how to draw now by the way. When I feel confident, I start making some Alunya fanart and stuff. It's still going to be a while. Drawing is super time-consuming, holy shit. Especially, when you have to learn the basics from scratch without natural talent like me.
>>1832814>rwbygWhat's that.
I'd love to draw Ironwood as some Red Army officer. I'm pretty sure the idiotic writers intended him to be a Stalin allegory from the start, because he's so authoorootoorian.
Gosh, his character was so butchered in the end.
Any FRWBY enjoyers here by any chance? No.1833628
>>1833538>I'm learning how to draw now by the way. When I feel confident, I start making some Alunya fanart and stuff. It's still going to be a while. Drawing is super time-consuming, holy shit. Especially, when you have to learn the basics from scratch without natural talent like me.I've been where you are. Use
>>>/draw/ it's helpful and there's a request thread that you can use for ideas.
>What's that. The RWBY General thread on 4chan, mostly fun lads, but there's a lot of autists that try to jump in, thankfully most of them got kicked out onto dic*ord
>I'm pretty sure the idiotic writers intended him to be a Stalin allegory from the start Pretty much. I mean Stalin - man of Steel -> IRONwood is a pretty short jump. That and his design aesthetic.
>FRWBY I was ambigious about it.
>I'd love to draw Ironwood as some Red Army officer. Based, when you get your skills up to scratch give it a shot and post it in the RWBY thread
>>>/anime/8783 No.1833798
>>1833527ukrainian lenin should return from exile and wage class war on NATO
No.1833862
>>1832809>Eyyy someone posted the pic I posted in the RWBY thread!I sent it to friends and they demanded a Hoxza and a Fidel one as well. Moar!
No.1834033
>>1834029is it over for putin?
No.1834039
>>1834033British MIC about to sweep Russia from the global stage. -The Telegraph
No.1834040
German leader tells Putin he can’t quote legendary philosopherGerman Chancellor Olaf Scholz has lashed out at Russian President Vladimir Putin for quoting iconic German philosopher Immanuel Kant. Speaking on Tuesday at an event marking the 300th anniversary of Kant’s birth, Scholz accused Putin of trying to “poach” the great thinker as well as misrepresenting his ideas.
Kant was born in 1724 in Koenigsberg (present-day Kaliningrad), which belonged to the Kingdom of Prussia before later becoming part of the Russian Empire. The philosopher is famous for his work on ethics, aesthetics and philosophical ontology, and is considered one of the pillars of German classical philosophy.
“Putin doesn’t have the slightest right to quote Kant, yet Putin’s regime remains committed to poaching Kant and his work at almost any cost,” Scholz said at the Berlin-Brandenburg Academy of Sciences, as quoted by Die Zeit.
Scholz said Russia’s role in the Ukraine conflict contradicts Kant’s fundamental teachings. He referred to Kant’s words on the interference of states in the affairs of other nations, and defended Kiev’s decision not to engage in peace talks with Moscow. He said Kant believed that forced treaties were not the way to reach ‘perpetual peace’ – a reference to one of Kant’s major works.
Putin has been known to praise and quote Kant, even suggesting in 2013 that the philosopher should be made an official symbol of Kaliningrad Region.
During a meeting with university students in Kaliningrad in January, Putin called Kant “one of the greatest thinkers of both his time and ours,” and said the philosopher’s call “to live by one’s own wits” is as relevant today as ever.
“A country must live by its own wits… This does not mean that we do not care about the interests of others… but we will never allow Russia’s interests to be neglected. In some countries, among our neighbors, this thesis has been forgotten. Many live by someone else’s wits. This will not bring them any good,” Putin stated.
The administration of Kaliningrad Region responded to Scholz’s statement on Tuesday, saying no one has done more than Russia to “perpetuate the memory of the great philosopher and his teachings.”
“Immanuel Kant died as a subject of the Russian crown. It seems to me that this, more than any words of all possible German politicians, shows the position of the great philosopher regarding Russia,” the governor’s press secretary, Dmitry Lyskov, said in a statement.
https://swentr.site/news/596464-scholz-putin-kant-poaching/ No.1834050
Where can I get my Kant quoting permit?
No.1834060
Okay, basically what he says is that China is echoing Russia because China wants to change the itnernational order and therefore if they want to fight China they have to help Ukraine…
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>>1834029No, UK elite is so ideologically entrenched that they couldn't put up a good industrial policy even if their life and class position depended on it.
No.1834074
>>1834056it's just russiagate drivel again:
>russia (and china) is bad>russians posting things on the internet>omg no>they are helping trump>omg really?>they implant mind worms into americans and make them vote for someone other than biden>omg sounds urgent, what should we do?>we should spend more money on war and do mass censorship and not talk about or do anything to address the material concerns or regular people.>yes i agree! No.1834078
>>1834064totally a real nation and not three countries in a trenchcoat
No.1834081
>>1834079>vladimir poopin lol
No.1834082
>>1834079hide yo kids hide yo wife
No.1834083
>>1834029Does the UK have the industrial capacity or GDP to really do this?
No.1834086
>>1834056>Timothy Snyder <belongs to Anne Applebaum <Wrote the Holodomeme book Bloodlands where he equivocates the USSR and Nazi Germany with blatant falsehoods that Grover Furr debunked in Blood Lies. I don't even need to listen to this because the entire summary is: "China and Russia are infiltrating our Democracy and manipulating opinion and trying to cause a war!"
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>>1834086See it's kind of funny because yes, Russia is definitely manipulating Americans into being more schizo and damaging the establishment, but liberals can't accept the fact that 90% of the damage was just done by other Americans for profit.
No.1834089
>>1834074It's become so dumb. Idealism has made it so every other policy has to be explained into the political theater in really infantile or unserious terms to be relatable.
No.1834094
>>1834088>Russia is definitely manipulating Americans into being more schizo and damaging the establishmentNot by infiltrating though, the USA literally creates their own Russian boogiemen in their minds. NTA BTW
>>1834093 Go back Sakai, you're drunk.
No.1834096
>>1834094I mean Russia Today is basically a channel aimed at westerners about how the West is bad and Russia is good. Plus plenty of Russian money backing reactionary projects. Russiagate isn't totally made up though I certainly don't think it was the real reason why trump won
No.1834098
>>1834096>I mean Russia Today is basically a channel aimed at westerners about how the West is bad and Russia is good.so like every western news channel but in reverse. how dare they!
No.1834100
>>1834096All of these non western english language government run medias have the goals of doing propaganda and enforcing soft power that way. However when doing propaganda against the west, the best way to do it is just tell the truth and idea's that the status quo tries so desperately hide within the west.
Wasn't there like some RT America reporter who said exactly this. He acknowledged that he was forking for a Russian propaganda outfit, but he also said that he has never had as much freedom to do journalism about political and societal issues as he had within the RT staff, because RT wanted them to tell the truth about American reality. That was and is their propaganda.
No.1834101
>>1834086Liberalism degenerated into the global class warfare of the rich, so we pretend it's targets are united by ideology rather than the ruling class going after whatever opposes neoliberalism
>>1834096There is little Russian money or media soft power, and what you are talking about is due to the Western lurch to war following Syria and Ukraine plus political woes in the EU and US. Russia as the periphery of the empire looked to anyone who would take the growing heat off them as the empire dealt with crisis.
No.1834103
>>1834098Ok, I never said America doesn't do the same thing, obviously they do
No.1834107
>>1834056>using propaganda to make burgers not believe in their democratic system.It's true though. All the homeless who talk to me in person, ask me for money and sleep in tents on the street are Russian holograms.
Also, Fox News has been pushing the idea that if the electrical grid fails it might be caused by Chinese computer viruses. What else else can cause failing infrastructure? Surely it can't be cutting maintenance to increase profits, it will be be China's fault!
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>>1834100I mean I would like to say I applaud Russia for going against the American orthodoxy in the media but most of the content on RT is just far right bullshit about how America has gone woke and trans kids are raping everyone, with a little bit of actual anti imperialism thrown in
No.1834109
>>1834108RT has Marxists on it (and not just to laugh at them) way more than any other major news company
No.1834112
>>1834109I mean from the kind of caliber of people they usually get, Maupin, Hinkle, Haz, etc, it doesn't exactly fill me with confidence. I'm sure some actual leftists get on there sometimes though sure. Overall RT is just a Russian aligned version of GB News though.
No.1834113
>>1834112I think probably you care far too much about dumb eceleb drama (obviously as your first response was to talk about those three) and you probably care more about trans issues than anti-imperialism so you see what you want to see
No.1834119
>>1834113Ok man. You can think what you want I guess.
No.1834120
>>1834107>All the homeless who talk to me in person, ask me for money and sleep in tents on the street are Russian holograms. This would be so based. Imagine Russia/China flooding the burger homeless market with synthetic android hobos that have the inbuilt advantage of not needing food & fentanyl to outcompete the meatspace hobos while begging then sending all the money back to the motherland. According to my calculations in 3 months they can beg back the production costs and after that they produce pure profit funneling money from the burger labor aristocracy.
No.1834124
>>1834119We all know it's true man. There's no need to be upset about it. You should stay in /isg/ where you can talk to other children about video essays instead of shitting up our thread. Cheers
No.1834126
>>1834124Ooh sorry I hate to interrupt your guro war porn circlejerk.
No.1834132
>>1834126Thank you for confirming the accuracy of my statement. Goodbye /isg/uyghur
No.1834149
>>1834108They give voice to any dissent voices, that might rock the boat. Not just socialists.
No.1834154
Russian media are good for explaining many topics related to the west. I don't trust them about anything Russia. On the other hand, western media are shit for any topic. They are useless even about Russia. They are like soap operas or midday talk shows.
Plus, John Pilger was also on RT at some point, and that is good enough for me.
No.1834185
>>1834117>Z -> NWhat is the actual source for the "army group north". Is it real or is it just rumors and speculation?
No.1834192
>>1834040>Kant was born in 1724 in Koenigsberg (present-day Kaliningrad), which belonged to the Kingdom of Prussia before later becoming part of the Russian Empire.Russian Empire never conquered East Prussia. There was a moment when one of Ekaterines captured it and occupied, but Peter 3 ceded in back to Prussia because he was more independently minded (and German himself) than his empress predecessor who was fighting war with Prussia on behalf of Britain
Anyway, cry about it, Germany. Kant's grave is in Russia now, because of Germany's shameful Nazi history
No.1834198
>>1834040>Scholz accused Putin of trying to “poach” the great thinker>German leader tells Putin he can’t quote legendary philosopher Ah shit lads we've been beaten! We better wrap up then because leftypol doesn't have the right to quote the German Karl Marx, and Lenin.
Seriously is this a fucking joke? This is LITERALLY the same meme-shit as the "muh cultural appropriation" hysteria that was going around a few years ago. Culture is supposed to be shared with others, especially philosophy. This is some twisted ass ethno-nationalistic schizophrenia. Modern society is BUILT on philosophy being shared and impacting the developments of ideologies and concepts that mold thinking processes while reflecting society as well. This is literally how Marxism came about, pic rel.
No.1834202
>>1834126Do me a favor and go to /chug/ and /uhg/ on /pol/, then check how much gore is in either thread. 2ch and dollchan work as well, but you don't know Russian. Then stop talking about shit you don't know.
No.1834205
>>1834202Hell even chug doesn't even post it that often, they only do so when /uhg/ tries to raid and they spam gore back to piss off the ukraine-stans.
Also if you open the warthread on /gif/ 90% of it is gore spam by Ukrainian bots.
No.1834214
>>1834185N would be army group east.
No.1834217
>>1833628>The RWBY General thread on 4chanWhich section on 4cuck? I can't find it.
<FRWBY >I was ambigious about it. Why? It's fucking great.
Picrel is the best character. Mongol-Japanese bandit
>>1834198>This is some twisted ass ethno-nationalistic schizophrenia. This ^
The SPD is an absolute shitshow, indistinquishable from fascists
No.1834227
>>1834214Is it happening though?
No.1834232
>>1834112>I mean from the kind of caliber of people they usually get, Maupin, Hinkle, Haz, etc,Hedges, Hartmann, Martin, etc. were all much more relevant on RT than your ISG spooks.
No.1834253
Another day, another person from team cannibal trying to moralise us
No.1834257
>>1834244Great now the Ukrops can say uyghas for real like they always wanted to with Ziggas
No.1834265
is zelensky in any way beholden the the USA? can the USA prohibit him from peacefully surrendering?
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>>1834274Hilarious they use this word to imply it's an intrinsically Russian tactic
No.1834280
>>1834277The jokes on them, Kant's brain was already dust so it literally, ackshually, never happened (for Kant) :^)
No.1834281
http://kcna.kp/en/article/q/8979247e2184aa882f0257d0b57c8e57.kcmsfU.S. Military Aid to Ukraine Is Just Mind-bending Drug: Vice Foreign Minister of DPRKPyongyang, April 24 (KCNA) – Im Chon Il, vice foreign minister of the DPRK in charge of Russian affairs, released the following press statement on Wednesday.
The U.S. House of Representatives reportedly passed a bill on offering additional military aids to Ukraine recently.
So it can be said that the U.S. large-scale additional military aid package to Ukraine debated long in the U.S. political camp has actually become a matter of time.
Media of the U.S. and other Western countries are widely advertising that Washington's such decision will add fresh strength to Ukraine's fight against Russia's "invasion."
The recent bipartisan support for the passage of the military aid bill for Ukraine through the U.S. House of Representatives clearly proved once again that the U.S. remains unchanged in its ulterior purpose to inflict a strategic defeat upon Russia at any cost by continuously egging Ukraine on despite the latter's serious defeats on battlefield.
Great Irony is the fact that more than one third of the U.S. aid fund amounting to over 60 billion US dollars will be spent in the U.S. mainland for supplying new weapons and ammunitions to the U.S. forces.
Thus it has been fully revealed once again that lurking behind the "rescuing hands" given by the U.S. touting military assistance to Ukraine is the sly and sinister intention of the U.S. to use the Ukrainian crisis as an opportunity for fattening up its munitions monopolies and for further tightening the shackle it put on Ukraine to make the puppet Zelenskiy clique henchmen for paving the path for carrying out its strategy for deterring Russia.
It is by no mean fortuitous that experts comment that the U.S. benefits most from the Ukraine crisis and the Biden administration is making enormous profits while feasting on "blood-mixed wine."
Russian political figures, being fully confident of victory, ridicule the passage of the new military aid bill as the one for making the U.S. richer but reducing Ukraine to greater piles of ashes, saying although the U.S. lavishes tens of billions of dollars on security assistance to Kiev, satisfying the wild greed of munitions tycoons, Russia will surely emerge victorious.
The U.S. transfuses blood to the Zelenskiy regime to prolong its existence at stake but this can never change the dreadful fate awaiting the puppets on deathbed.
The Ukrainian battlefields have long been a "graveyard" of various weaponry bragged about by the U.S. and the NATO.
But Zelenskiy has gone so mad as to express his will to continue the "death-defying resistance" against Russia to the end, making deep bows to his American masters for the decision of new military aid. This cannot but be viewed as sheer hysteria of a "Don Quixote in the 21st century" utterly ignorant of his opponent.
Zelenskiy must be a "star" acting his part well according to the film script written by the U.S., rather than president of a country.
I affirm that the U.S. legislative military aid package is just a mind-bending drug for buoying up for a moment the Zelenskiy clique gripped with fear resulting from its ever-worsening position on battlefield and making it tilt at windmills.
The pro-U.S. lackeys are bound to meet death and ruin for having completely sold off people and all valuables of the country to become cannon fodder of their master, unable to judge what is right and what is wrong.
Any U.S. military aids can never block the advance of the heroic Russian army and people all out for a sacred war of justice for safeguarding the sovereign rights and security of their country. -0-
No.1834284
Why do DPRK articles make me feel more proud of my country than anything on Russian media?
No.1834287
Not sure if Twitter is just a proper rightoid shithole now for everyone, or if it's because I follow some pro-Russian analysts and the algorithm therefore for some reason believes I'm a full on fascist now.
No.1834289
>>1834284Because they don't care about diplomacy with the west which is probably ill-advised (although less so these days) but very based.
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>>1832250What is her name? I need to know for certain reasons.
No.1834305
>>1832250Have some sympathy you monsters! Can't you see the Russians stole her bra!
No.1834307
>>1834300You will find cheaper ukrogirls in your area whos already naturalised, just saying.
No.1834309
>>1834307I don't care I just want to coom
No.1834310
>>1834309 (me)
Also I don't want to interact with ukrops in real life, they tend to be extremely annoying these days
No.1834322
>>1834309Maligoshik on Instagram apparently
No.1834328
>>1834322Funnily enough she has an onlyfans, so now I wonder was it a propaganda video? Or was it a war-themed request from a fan?
No.1834337
The western discourse on the circumstances behind the creation of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), 75 years ago, is hardly convincing.
Yet, that over-simplified discourse must be examined in order for the current decline of the organization to be appreciated beyond the self-serving politics of NATO’s members.
The history records page of the US State Department speaks of the invention of NATO in a language suitable for a US high school history book.
“After the destruction of the Second World War, the nations of Europe struggled to rebuild their economies and ensure their security,” it reads, which compelled the US to take action: “(integrating) Europe as vital to the prevention of communist expansion across the continent.”
This is the typical logic of NATO’s early doctrine. It can be gleaned from most of the statements made by Western countries that established and continue to dominate the organization.
The language oscillates between a friendly discourse – for example, Harry Truman’s reference to NATO as a ‘neighborly act’ – and a threatening one, also Truman’s tough language against “those who might foster the criminal idea of having recourse to war.”
The reality, however, remains vastly different.
Indeed, the US did emerge much stronger, militarily and economically after WWII. That was reflected in the Marshall Plan, an ‘Economic Recovery Plan’, which was a strategic, not a charitable act. It engineered the economic recovery of selected countries who would become the US’ global allies for decades to come.
Upon its establishment, then Canadian Secretary of State Lester Pearson referred to the NATO ‘community’ as part of the ‘world community’, linking the strength of the former to “preserving the peace” for the latter.
As innocuous as such language may seem, it introduced a paternal relationship between the US-dominated NATO and the rest of the world. Thus, it allowed the powerful members of the organization to define, on behalf of the rest of the world – and often outside the umbrella of the United Nations – such notions as ‘peace’, ‘security’, ‘threat’, and, ultimately, ‘terrorism’.
A case in point is that the first major conflict instigated by NATO did not target external threats to Europe or US territories, but took place thousands of miles away, on the Korean Peninsula.
The west’s political discourse wanted to view the civil war in the Peninsula, prior to NATO’s intervention as an example of “communist aggression”. This ‘aggression’ supposedly forced NATO’s hands to react. Needless to say, the Korean War (1950-53) was a destructive one.
The 75 years since then proved the flimsiness of that argument. The Soviet Union has long been dismantled, and North Korea has been desperately fighting to break out of its isolation. Yet, a fractious state of no war-no peace remains in place. It could turn into an outright war at any time.
However, what the war has achieved is something entirely different. The constant state of non-peace provides a justification for the permanent US military presence in the region.
Similar outcomes followed most of NATO’s other interventions: Iraq (1991 and 2003), Yugoslavia (1999), Afghanistan (2001), Libya (2011) and so on.
Yet, the ability to start or exacerbate conflicts, and the inability, or perhaps unwillingness to permanently end wars, is not the real crisis at NATO, 75 years after its establishment.
In an article marking the anniversary, UK Secretary of Defense, Grant Shapps wrote in the Daily Telegraph that NATO must accept that it is now in a “pre-war world”.
He lashed out at those NATO members who were “still failing” to meet the minimally required spending on defense, which equals to two percent of total national GDPs. “We cannot afford to play Russian roulette with our future,” he wrote.
Shapps’ anxieties are often expressed by other top NATO leaders and officials, who are either warning of an imminent war with Russia or criticizing each other for the dwindling influence of the once-powerful organization.
Much of that blame was placed on former US President Donald Trump, who outright threatened to leave NATO during his only term in office.
Trump’s disparaging comments and threats, however, were hardly the instigator of the crisis. They were symptoms of growing problems, which have continued for years after Trump’s dramatic exit from the White House.
NATO’s crisis can be summarized as this:
First, the geopolitical formations that existed following the collapse of the Soviet Union and its Warsaw Pact no longer exist.
Second, the main aspect of the new global competition cannot be reduced to military terms. Rather, it is economic.
Third, Europe is now largely dependent on energy sources, trade and even technological integration with countries that the US perceives as enemies: China, Russia and others.
Therefore, if Europe allows itself to subscribe to the US polarized language on what constitutes enemies and allies it will pay a heavy price, especially as EU economies are already struggling under the weight of continued wars and constant disruption of energy supplies.
Fourth, fixing all of these challenges and more through the dropping of bombs is no longer an option. The ‘enemy’ is far too strong, and the changing nature of warfare makes traditional war largely ineffectual.
Though the world has greatly changed, NATO remains committed to a political doctrine from a bygone era. And even if the two percent threshold is met, the problem will not go away.
It is time for NATO to re-examine its 75-year-old legacy, and be courageous enough to change directions altogether – instead of opting for a state of non-peace, actually seeking real peace.
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>>1834328>she has an onlyfansI'd be surprised if she didn't
No.1834359
>>1834354Tbh these days whenever I see a woman with a linktree on their social media accounts, I often check and feel a slight sense of relief when I don't see a link to onlyfans or an equivalent.
I dunno maybe it's reassuring to see the right are wrong and not every woman on the internet needs to resort to it, in fact it appears to be limited to women like this Ukrainian lass who seem to use it to fund a lavish lifestyle rather than just to make rent.
No.1834361
>>1834359And such people are still, thankfully, very much in the minority.
No.1834371
>>1834108>I mean I would like to say I applaud Russia for going against the American orthodoxy in the media but most of the content on RT is just far right bullshit about how America has gone woke and trans kids are raping everyone, with a little bit of actual anti imperialism thrown inIt's definitely critical of liberalism, but I wouldn't call it far right. The woke and LGBT culture war crap that left liberals dressed themselves in has deep problems unrelated to the groups they claim to represent, thus the rise of PMC theory. There are very good reasons why this has earned a massive backlash related to upholding (very white and male) state and class power, it is related to deliberately obscuring problems of economic liberalism (class warfare) with social liberalism (the advanced and reformed superstructure of the former). When the former's class warfare, which intersects with nationality and therefore creates a division of civilization and barbarism, caused truly international antagonisms under globalization the immediate pivot was to rationalize this as part of a new backlash to modernity, enlightenment, and liberal democracy. To construct a new liberalism being rejected by a new reactionary, we drew on its latter day developments under global capitalism. In effect, this obscures how a reactionary form of class warfare, which is now unprecedented in global scale thanks to the neoliberalism of the imperialists, divided us. Social liberalism instead serves to rationalize this division. We are no longer polarized by the expansion of global capitalism and the bourgeois revolution, but their internal divisions and social liberalism applied to such.
This has led to absurdities like arguing the left can't support Palestinians because they're homophobic or Russia must be balkanized to preserve secularism. It's oppression by the rich in the name of liberation of a minority unrepresented by the rich.
This is why there's such an argument about class reductionism and the like, since it implies liberalism is no longer progressive due to its decaying base and that this isn't a crisis caused by its advanced superstructure.
No.1834402
>>1834398How many civilians died in each side? Which side is killing and bombing more civilians? Genuine question i have no idea.
No.1834404
>>1834398kek he refers to the materialist view of history around 21:50
No.1834413
>>1834096the amount of money western countries spend to interfere in internal affairs of others vs what russia or china spend for that is like a 1000 to 1. germany literally brags about NGOs being its strongest weapon. both-sidesing in this case is straight up retarded.
No.1834418
>>1834413It was quite funny to see John Kerry dramatically taking off his glasses after explaining what RT is and asking "do we have our own equivalent?"
But, like RT could only dream of having the reach Hollywood has, or if it was universally recognised as a source of news like Reuters that news agencies around the world take stories from.
No.1834428
>>1834422Yes, but I think what was pissing in his corn flakes is that they've invested billions to try to invisibly be the source of most news around the world so that people don't get wise to the reality that they only ever hear America's narrative on events while RT is unashamedly the Russian narrative on events and people are actually opting to tune in either to listen in earnest or just to hate watch (still dangerous for maintaining a monopoly on narrative).
So I think what they want is not just everything being a copypasta from Associated Press, most "independent" news sourcing from Radio Free <insert continent> but that also a third option that shouldn't pretend like it's anything but the US state department's direct narrative on stuff
No.1834429
>>1834100>self admitted propagandist says he is "totes just telling it how it is!"Come on
No.1834435
>>1833031Yep, they just announced an increase in border guards forces
No.1834443
>>1834439Consistent with their open fascism though which is nice, it was really lame when they spent a couple of months trying to pretend like they're no longer fascists overnight because they changed a couple of insignias to something slightly less copy-pasted from Stormfront, glad they dropped that.
No.1834455
>>1834202People on chug complain about gore even if it's the enemy who is blown on video
They're also insufferable name/avatar fags and ritualposters tho
No.1834467
>>1834202pol being worse doesn't make you guys posting videos of conscripts being blown up noble
No.1834470
>>1834467You are on a politics board.
No.1834472
>>1834467Where is this video?
No.1834473
>>1834470that's not what politics is
>>1834472there's been plenty like that, it's not like i saved it tho
No.1834475
>>1834467>>1834472Lol that's what I was gonna say. There is not one in the whole thread rn.
No.1834477
>>1834473Where? Can I see it? Just give it a (You) from this thread it should be easy according to you
No.1834481
>>1834473Well, if you ask me to be explicit I see that as informed consent. First, this whole discussion is pathetic. Second, killing the enemy is good. And I don't like gore but I'm not a little pussy-ass bitch uygha.
No.1834483
>>1834473Yes, it is. It literally is. War is politics.
No.1834489
>>1834467ballsack status?
No.1834559
>>1834265The SAS protection he relies on to keep from getting murdered by nazis would suddenly disappear.
No.1834574
>>1834568Nothingburger til they launch the nukes.
No.1834606
>>1834096>I mean>>1834108>I mean>>1834112>I meanWhat did he mean by this?
No.1834611
>>1834606I mean, RT is one of the best news websites on the internet, i dont see any evidence of it being pro russia and anti US like some of you guys say. Heck they are almost as good as wsws.
No.1834626
>>1834112RT has quality reporting mixed with absolute garbage reporting.
No.1834635
>>1834614Nothing unique or new
https://twitter.com/crakkkers (Twitter account reposting retarded rightoid takes)There are millions of these christian nato liberal fascist bot accounts who are posting Evropa black sun hitlercore edits, its a part of the propaganda machine Porky runs. They mostly appeal to retarded kids who've been raised to hate gypsies and communism.
No.1834640
>>1834473>there's been plenty like that, it's not like i saved it thono there hasnt. there isnt gore in this thread
No.1834645
>>1834635>random slovak flagwut
No.1834650
>>1834640True, i checked for the first time pol, and clicked in the ukraine thread, one of the first posts that appeared were gore. Quite disturbing, never going to that place again
No.1834654
>>1834413>>1834418I live in what you could call a "frontier state" in terms of Western hegemony (relatively sovereign government with a strong pro-Western opposition that can operate freely) and it's pretty crazy. Of course it's a given that almost every single anti-government news site is funded the OSF/EU/NED etc, but it's not just this. There have been two major protest movements supposedly based on labour disputes, both had useless liberal political parties/NGOs attached to them to turn into a plain and simple anti-government protests. The latest one also had NGOid protest leaders intentionally leading people into confrontations with the police when the "movement" has already gotten close to fizzling out so that media can publish pictures about teenagers being teargassed. The trendiest musicians and drama influencers just straight up have business dinners with the US ambassodor. A few of these people appear as speakers in anti-government protests only a few months after. Every Pride parade is always at the same time an anti-government protest (as in speakers directly calling out the government), funded by the usual suspects. RFE, DW, and other, ostinsibly native media projects (funded by the same circles ofc) run well-produced cultural programs similar to what you would see on public television alongside their openly political output. The most ridicoulus one is this guy who makes rap songs about the NGOid project of the day (LGBTQ, climate change, etc.), sometimes starring the same people that appear in sensitizing videos produced by NGOs. Because of the huge soft power of the West, the actually independent (i.e. state-funded or genuinely underground, hence independent from monopoly capital) cultural institions also have close connections with the NGO-industrial complex.
No.1834676
>>1834654shit like this is exactly what i meant(im first quote). western powers have their fingers in every pie and in most cases theyre in so deep that theyve already inserted the whole hand up the pie's ass and are de-facto steering it like a hand puppet. thats why russiagate nonsense shit and performative lib outrage have always driven me up the wall. whatever accusations they hurl, true or false, apply to themselves a 1000fold but when they do it its "fostering civil society" and "spreading and supporting democratic norms" and regular libs will say that with a straight face.
No.1834691
>>1834676Personally I'm not surprised that westerners are willing to rationalise this as a kind of "no tolerance for intolerance" when they're playing puppet master, but what I am surprised by is how many people from the liberal frontier (can this be a term now? I like it) are thrilled to wear the puppet master's strings. Like I'm actually shocked the riots in Georgia got as big as they did when we've just seen in Ukraine what such wilful cuckoldry leads to. Like, it's the butthurt belt and I get there's a lot of seething about Russia promoted as nationalism, but surely they can't be unaware of the possibility here, surely they must be actually willing to suffer the same fate over whatever promises the NGO mouthpieces make wrt to EU and NATO membership
No.1834694
>>1834691They are not sane people, they are victims of sluggish schizophrenia denied their medications
No.1834746
>>1834096>Plus plenty of Russian money backing reactionary projects.This is bait right? What projects? RT has 0.0000001 of the budget or reach of western soft power projects. The west was pumping VOA wherever it could for 70 years and the moment Russia does the same it's the end of the world. Even something like PressTV gets blocked everywhere. The western hypocrisy is galactic. I'm waiting for the Duran to be mentioned by John Kerry too, I don't know anyone who doesn't watch it.
No.1834748
>>1834691Europe has wealth, and power. And the pro-western crowd wants it. It's that shrimple.
No.1834757
>>1834751Why you keep posting Israel-Palestine related news in the Ukraine thread?
No.1834785
>>1834757because it's all ww3 at the end of the day. same w/ taiwan.
ukkkraine is amerikkka's bitch against russia
taiwan is amerikkka's bitch against china
israel is amerikkka's bitch against the entire Arab world, and also Iran.
No.1834786
>>1834785(south korea and japan are amerikkka's bitch against north korea, argentina is amerikkka's bitch against south america)
No.1834821
>>1834402Trick question since Ukraine is bombing and killing more Ukrainian civilians than Russia is.
No.1834832
>>1834369>It's been updatedNice
>shot-down Storm-Shadow and Brimstone missile photos still not added shame
>>1834217>Which section on 4cuck/co/ during active seasons (so never now) and /trash/
>Why? IDK, I didn't think it was bad, I just wasn't interested.
No.1834849
News from the butthurt belt.
https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2024/04/24/latvian-schools-to-stop-teaching-russian-as-a-second-language-en-news
>Latvian children will no longer study Russian as a second language in schools from 2026 following amendments introduced by the Latvian government on Tuesday.
>The changes mean students entering the 5th grade in September 2026 must study an official language of the European Union, the European Economic Area, or a foreign language approved by intergovernmental agreements with other states, as their second foreign language.
>According to these rules, students will only be able to study Russian if they have begun their studies before September 2025.
>Following the Russian invasion of Ukraine, parents have requested for schools to abandon teaching Russian, which is the most popular second language studied in Latvian schools, the Latvian government noted.
>After the bloodiest war unleashed by Russia this century and genocide of Ukrainian people, the mandatory study of Russian as a second language is unacceptable for a significant part of Latvian society,” she continued.
>Russian is the second most popular language in Latvia, with 37.7% of the population reporting it to be their mother tongue in a survey conducted in 2023. The language ban is one of a series of measures that aim to de-russify Latvia in response to the war in Ukraine, including an amendment passed by the country’s parliament in 2022 denying permanent residence to Russians unable to speak basic-level Latvian.And the commentary if you have to stomach for it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/1cbw8ol/latvian_schools_to_stop_teaching_russian_as_a/ No.1834870
>>1834849Imagine if Russia did this to Ukrainians
No.1834892
>>1834870I've seen nafoid shit saying that they are and ruzzoid shit saying that they're not. I'm inclined to disbelieve anything a nato supporter says but I don't think Russia is especially enlightened either.
No.1834894
>>1834849>And the commentary if you have to stomach for itflay all redditors
No.1834898
>>1834894What, you don't admire the Romanian bravery exhibited by refusing to learn the language of the country that emancipated them from feudalism and fascism?
No.1834901
>>1834892You mean you have proofs that Russians are denying Ukrainians their language?
No.1834908
>>1834901No, I mean that the information space is so polluted that it's impossible to tell one way or another since I'm not there, have no expertise in Russia, and don't speak the language. All I have is he-said-she-said shit that is difficult to untangle particularly because many search engines are fucking garbage now and trying to do any research means having to try and dig through layers and layers of Western propaganda.
I'm inclined to give Russia the benefit of the doubt considering the circumstances but that's based more on the untrustworthiness of their accuser than belief in the character of Russia's government.
No.1834909
>>1834892Ukrainian is still being taught in liberated territory so
No.1834911
>>1834614No this is what every NATOid actually believes most of them just lack the courage to admit it. The fact that NATO was founded by actual, literal Nazis and is still run by their children and collaborators should tell you all you need to know.
No.1834915
>>1834909The great irony is the only reason Ukrainian exists is because of the Soviet Union. They were the first to recognize it as a separate language and teach it
No.1834929
>>1834648>starting a phrase with "its almost as if"reddit and it's consequences
No.1834943
>>1834691There is a rational side to it. The actually successful, Western-Western countries' economies work by pushing the largest amount people into PMC jobs that comprise highest step in a global value chain. As result they can actually own the cultural values that signify being on the top of the world. For others, like Eastern Europeans who willingly destroyed everything they had in hopes of becoming a part of the golden billion, only a small section of the population can actually join this superior pseudo-race, almost like if it was a reflection of the global hierarchy between nations within a single nation.
I'll give you an example. There are only a couple of private schools in my country which are meant for the elite of the elite. Most of them are bilingual, which means that kids are taught English from a very early age so that it will be impossible to tell which country they were born in, unlike the commoners. They are true global citizens. I've met a group of these rich kids and some of them actually spoke English amongst themselves for casual purposes. I was astonished.
Anyways, you are right. Most people have no material reason to revere the West. As they posess no genuine national/regional identity that could complement their class position, they confuse the boot with the man on the ground.
Still, I think that if people are given the choice of even just the promise of national sovereignty, whatever that may entail, they will choose it over total submission. It's just that a lot of elites are deeply, deeply treacherous.
No.1834950
>>1834648they're
this close to understanding the love of Stalin
in b4 stalin did nothing wronghe stopped at berlin No.1834994
>>1834955$1billion isn't even one patriot system lmao
No.1834995
I wish my libshit pro nato friends weren't so fucking stupid.
No.1835001
>>1834956>pushes for business as usual policy>calls himself "disruptive politics"What did he mean by this?
No.1835003
>>1834964Thats right!
>>1834994They probably already fired that billion.
No.1835005
>>1834995Only you can red pill them. Just point out the obvious inconsistencies and don't be directly insulting. Appeal to higher values and how NATO doesn't help long term.
Whenever they talk about rights, say America just rolled back roe v wade and the other fake rights are next as spoon as it's convenient.
No.1835023
>>1835005I think their class character prevents red pilling. They're ideologically disposed a certain way and they're totally braincucked by Western propaganda. The biggest problem is that my knowledge is limited while their ignorance isn't, and there's always some new bullshit propaganda to have to debunk. Sometimes they're just completely fucking obtuse. Like this
>>1834849Right? The response is
>what discrimination>how are they being discriminated against>what about Russia did you ever think of that>okay it might be discrimination but it's justified for whatever stupid idiot reasonit just goes on and on. Muh defensive alliance. Muh Russian imperialism. Hurr durr Ukraine isn't run by Nazis because they got voted out. I'm so fucking sick of them and their bootlicking horse shit.
No.1835026
>>1834950Stalin did a lot of things wrong. He didn't actually shoot all the people the anti communists say he did, and he should have. Basically every problem in th USSR was caused by Stalin not shooting enough people. Iron Felix's death fucked them, he was the only one truly willing to do what was necessary no matter what.
No.1835027
I though it was Russian propaganda but I think its not:
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/poland-ready-help-ukraine-get-military-age-men-back-minister-says-2024-04-24/
>Poland is ready to help Ukraine in getting military-age male citizens to return and help their home country in fighting in the war against Russia, Defence Minister Wladyslaw Kosiniak-Kamysz said on Wednesday.
>The Ukrainian government announced rules on Wednesday under which passports for military-age men can be issued only inside the country instead of foreign diplomatic missions.
>As a result, men aged between 18 and 59 living abroad will be unable to renew expiring passports or obtain new ones.To the last Ukrainian!!!
No.1835031
>>1835023Tell them they believe what they believe, because it's necessary for their world-view, and self-image. And that sort of self-righteous self-conceited bullshit is precisely why the countries outside of NATO and their puppets are sick and tired of them.
Be prepared to lose friends, because there is a high chance you're going to hear some racism next.
No.1835056
>>1834943>There is a rational side to it. The actually successful, Western-Western countries' economies work by pushing the largest amount people into PMC jobs that comprise highest step in a global value chain. As result they can actually own the cultural values that signify being on the top of the world. For others, like Eastern Europeans who willingly destroyed everything they had in hopes of becoming a part of the golden billion, only a small section of the population can actually join this superior pseudo-race, almost like if it was a reflection of the global hierarchy between nations within a single nationI believe this is the source of many of our problems and part of how globalization or international capitalism polarized us. Behind the liberal dogwhistles of universal rights, openness, rule of law, and so on in contrast to 'authoritarian systems' dividing capitalism is a global class system meant to connect and reconcile different elites on the basis of advanced values emerging from an archipelago of connected large cities, which is evidence of a rising class based democracy (aka an international bourgeois dictatorship, our autistic discussion aside this really is the kernel of imperialism). One key folly of the US driving its demise is the two parties aligning over this system, with liberals leading the charge. It represents an international plutocracy which justifies itself on the basis of its surroundings being closed and backward to capital given illiberal values whereas it represents 'the world'. We have thus been polarized between elite democracy of international capitalism and popular state sovereignty of national capitalism, the former coming to represent global class warfare and the other national class compromise. This is nothing new, what is new is this polarization spreading after 2008 to the West then being retroactivey used to double down on how this polarizes the rest of the world, driving us towards a strange mix of second cold war and second civil war.
No.1835066
>>1834785Stop writing like that, your not 13.
No.1835165
>>1835027>The Ukrainian government announced rules on Wednesday under which passports for military-age men can be issued only inside the country instead of foreign diplomatic missions.Now there will be many Ukrainian's on European streets running from the police just to save themselves from deportation, conscription and death.
Also won't Ukrainians just jump ship from Poland to another Schengen country if poles really want to seek them out.
No.1835166
>>1835027this is really some sick shit. the ukrainians that were smart enough to gtfo when this thing kicked off, the gardeners are now forcing them to go back and jump into the meat grinder for zelensky and biden's reelection chances.
utter depravity. they should have ran east into russia like the even smarter ukraininans did.
No.1835172
>>1835056This article by an NED official is relevant. You can see here concern that liberalism is crystallizing as the ideology of an international class system, with its division of democracy and authoritarianism being subsequently defined by strength of the bourgeoisie which reflects on different national histories and their relationships to colonialism (which is how threats to the independence of the liberal bourgeoisie are now defined in our era as coming from dependent nations). It acknowledges that the international system is biased towards rich nations and there is a failure to polarize opinion against China over democracy and authoritarianism in poorer ones.
>The Pew poll indicated that middle-income economies, particularly in Africa and Latin America, are more likely to have positive views of China and its contributions to stability than higher-income economies in Asia and Europe. But even in these regions, popular views of China are far from uniformly positive
>Nonetheless, China won the support of 25 of the 31 emerging and middle-income countries (not including itself) in the UN Human Rights Council in a successful bid to prevent debate on Beijing’s treatment of its Uyghur minority population. It was only the second time in the council’s history that a debate has been blocked
>Washington has put in place some of the building blocks of this vision through the U.S.-EU Trade and Technology Council, the Indo-Pacific Economic Framework, and the Partnership for Global Infrastructure Investment. Largely left out of the equation, however, are precisely the states most open to China’s vision of transformation—most members of the BRICS, the SCO, and nondemocratic emerging and middle-income economies.https://www.foreignaffairs.com/china/chinas-alternative-order-xi-jinping-elizabeth-economy No.1835303
>>1835027They really, really want Ukrainians to switch sides to Russia, huh
No.1835354
>>1834927ZA/UM shareholders stole the Disco Elysium IP from its creators. Fuck'em!
Also, the studio is already fucked…
No.1835469
>>1835001Same old story of these reactionaries deluding themselves that akshually the communists are in power and need to be overthrown.
No.1835477
https://twitter.com/leftypol_org/status/1783087021239443887Who is actually in charge of that "official" /leftypol/ account? I really like whoever that is to actually consult the userbase before posting this divisive asshole.
What's Zizek's take on Russians being ISIS and the need for Ukraine to get nukes? #theory
No.1835484
>>1835477Is that Mike Tyson?
No.1835516
>>1835477That article is terrible and his last interview for Jacobin was even worse, where he predicted that Russia's economy was to collapse by autumn 2022 and said there were no geopolitical reasons behind the conflict whatsoever and instead Putin did it to write himself into history books before he dies of secret cancer. It's extremely jarring considering Kagarlitsky wrote some decent theory before. He had an entire book about how liberalism subverts Western leftist movements but he let Rabkor turn into a radlib hive and is now spewing lukewarm libshit platitudes himself. Dude tried to become a "personality" instead of an academic at almost 70 and that's what he turned into in the end.
No.1835554
>>1835027I'd rather be in prison than fight on day for UKKKraine
No.1835558
>>1835512Im sorry you're retarded
No.1835559
>>1835477That's a lot of words to say "socialism or barbarism". But then again, he's presumably posting from jail, sent there for voicing the wrong takes. So I guess this is more of a "raising awareness, I'm still here" type of piece. Posting something spicier would probably make his situation even worse.
No.1835563
>>1835557So out of all those articles the Twitter guy chose this one? I mean if this is supposedly advertisment for this site, newcomers will be shocked with how "tankie" this place is.
Also I think it's bloodgasm.
No.1835575
>>1835477why does the "official" leftypol xitter account has a blue checkmark jfc
No.1835578
>>1835575You need that to get any engagement these days
No.1835580
>>1835559>>1835477Isn’t he literally an anti-communist?
No.1835583
>>1835563Do you even follow the account? It shares all of News Anon's featured articles and headlines.
No.1835584
>>1835579The Liberal Virus Permanent War and the Americanization of the World by Samir Amin
No.1835585
>>1835565Does this faggot have a fucking alert system for every time his name is mentioned?
No.1835587
>>1835579>Toward The AbyssIs this a good one to read? I have a young Ukrainian friend, who on the one hand understands the war is shit on the other hand is Ukraine pro and I wonder if it is a good one to give her
No.1835588
>>1834995>>1835005Pro NATO libshits have neither the will nor attention to seriously take the time to learn politics or economics because it's just a trendy form of entertainment to them. They're in the popular liberal stance, they have nothing to gain and only social relationships to lose by spending the effort to learn the way the world works.
This is a good bit of why a lot of western Marxists are bookish weirdos, people who decided to learn despite it netting them very little except personal interest in learning for its own sake, or already socially off from the norm.
No.1835590
>>1835588At some point in life I decided that the media are so full of shit that If I started reading I would actually have a lot to win when time comes…I think it works.
No.1835593
>>1835583I do, and he pinned that article. Do you even follow the account?
No.1835595
>>1835587the writer is a democratic marxist that vouches for a rejection of both the west and russia, and believes in the need to unify against the bourgeoisie together
if she agrees with that it's a good gift
No.1835601
>>1835593Because the account pins almost if not every daily featured theory-related posts that News Anon shares. Tragic.
No.1835607
>>1835563If you have an issue with a leftypol twitter account just make your own!
Anyone can make a twitter account if thry don't have enough selfrespect and a plurality is always best, no?
No.1835623
>>1834892Ukrainian is still taught and still an official language in Crimea, like every other minority language is in every autonomous Okrug/Krai/Republic. Some Russian nationalists on telegram are even crying that Russia is printing Ukrainian language textbooks. Sure there's some social stigma against it but that's not even close to Ukraine's project of creating an ethno-state. Kill the westoid in your head.
No.1835632
https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-would-lose-in-a-war-with-nato-polish-fm-warns/You know, if Russia is so much smaller economically than the EU economically and population wise why do they have to spend any more on than they already have or introduce conscription like Poland wants the UK to do? Could it be that GDP and population don't tell the full story and that a fully mobilized Russian population could actually defeat a dysfunctional EU in a conventional war?
No.1835655
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-42424-comedown-after-post?
>Without being privy to the discussions of Zelensky’s cohort, we can only assume that they deem the civil situation to be so pessimistic that they’re terrified of announcing anything too overtly forceful, particularly given that Zelensky’s legitimate hold on power is set to soon expire less than a month from today. In fact, it technically already expired, as the elections should have been held by now—but May 21st is officially when a new president would have been sworn in. Simpy's said that the Russians are supposed to be deploying ten new brigades around this time. Seems like a good move.
No.1835670
>>1835587just leave her alone about that till its all over and then slow-walk her afterwards; because otherwise youll just strain your relationship with probably no positive outcome. ask me how i know.
No.1835691
>>1835670Nah, after the war he should pay her to clean the Soviet monuments from Kiev to Mariupol
No.1835700
>>1834995They're not stupid, they just don't care about this issue and repeat what the media and youtubers say. And what do they say? Pure bourgeois propaganda. The specific justifications and copes change effortlessly, only the core of bourgeois interest remains: destroying competition. China will collapse in two weeks now, I swear.
No.1835712
>>1834995>I wish my libshit pro nato friends weren't so fucking stupid.They were sold a lie dating back to 2016. The reality is this war was caused by the decay of democracy under unprecedented international capitalism and wars for its expansion, which is a liberal contradiction destabilizing itself. Whether its some idea of right wing populism or foreign dictatorships and their spheres of influence these symptoms of the decay and backlash to it are used to backwardly vindicate globalization and its democracy wars as leading to crisis via progress. Meaning the solution is to double down and power through. As Marxists the former USSR gives us a clear idea of why this crisis was not caused by progress, the issue was never a nonexistent Russian empire that exists through populations leftover from Soviet integration. The issue was European expansion dividing the region in reactionary ways (nationality) as liberalism failed to unite it and degenerated. Insofar it degenerated, so did we pretend to be struggling against a conservative empire or some other recycling of history long abolished by global capitalism, refusing to accept the latter's growing democratic deficit and how it undermined liberalism, instead believing it finally polarized the whole world over democracy. We can't accept that we enabled the Russian rejection of Westernization and liberalization, and that there was nothing reactionary about it because it wasn't much democratic about it at this point in history.
If there's no regeneration of liberal democracy coming on the other side of powering through, they have nothing. That's the unease and anxiety behind the smugness of cultural hegemony. Everyone can see this is a hail mary to deal with the decline of liberal democracy via war to unite its order. If that flops, it'll be the biggest blow since it was set up after WW2. Ukraine is existential, Taiwan and Palestine are foregone conclusions as losses at this point.
No.1835715
>>1835707
USSR after Stalin was a collection of nationalist republics, and USSR has degenerated precisely along those lines. Turkish lobby groups, Canadian Ukrainians, Armenians and Georgians in Paris and Russian emigres everywhere helped to shape the nationalism. Hell, Jewish lobby in USSR managed to secure survival of Israel in multiple wars since USSR pulled on the leash of arabs time and time again
It's been a fight of democracy against gusanos since 1950s. Gusanos of all nations - European or otherwise - are the "globalization" "neoliberal" people you talk about. Logic of a bourgeois state dictates that there shall exist lobby groups and that you don't oppress interest groups if they belong to a friendly bourgeois state; hence, USSR, and now Russia, cucking out to fucking terrorist sympathisers such as Saudi wahhabism or Turkish organizations or even straight up NATO advocates such as various gulag museums and memorial foundations
No.1835750
>>1835745Say what you will about Trump, but he is an objectively more efficient imperialist candidate
No.1835752
>>1835745Accelerationism is fake and gay. Furthermore Trump is trying to salvage dollar dominance here, he still represents managed decline
No.1835759
>>1835745>global tyrant trying to enslave the entire world to perpetuate its evil empire againboth-sidists really need to kts to save face at this point.
No.1835762
>>1835745
>Dedollarization is not happening because noone wants other currencies but if anyone wants to use other currencies then we will punish him tierheh
No.1835763
>>1835752That poster means that dollar decline happened because of sanctions, and doubling down on that heavy-handed approach will only accelerate dollar collapse. That said, doing nothing is probably worse for the dollar than doing this
No.1835766
>>1835752>represents managed declinelel
Practical results speak otherwise. He's a complete retard, who botched American foreign policy worse than literally anyone in this thread could.
No.1835768
>>1835766How so? His foreign policy was a retreat from Syria and status quo with China with the aim of restoring profitability to agrarian sector, at the very least. His policy failures were from American capitalism being retarded to begin with, being unable to exploit the possiblities given to it, and also dem opposition with covid.
So, in short, he comes off as based accelerationist retard.
No.1835775
>>1835768Like, you just look at his policies, and you see that Trump straight-forwardly wanted to fix America's economic problems. Bad trade balance with China? Do a trade war and force China to buy American crap! Syrian, Afghanistan wars threaten to force USA back into a full-scale war? Pull out, then! Bad profitablity in sectors of the economy? Then just fucking restore it!
Based retard. It's like they've let a kid with very basic understanding of the economy and politics - and none of the brainwashing - to make decisions. It's hilarious. It's like watching someone play Democracy or Suzerain but in real life, and looking at it from the bottom
No.1835787
>>1835585the mods reach out to him on the matrix chat
No.1835792
>>1835764oh cool the fire fuckin rises
No.1835793
>>1835768trump allows himself to be pressured by the people that surround him, usually his neocon cabinet, example being assassinating that iranian general. but he also makes dumb decisions on principle, like pulling out of the Trans-Pacific Partnership (americas answer to the belt and road) day one of office because it was a clinton project. he's a complete retard
No.1835795
>>1835793I don't even think he gets pressured, he's just a complete retard that listens to whatever the last person to talk to him tells him. I remember apparently Tucker Carlson of all people is the one who convinced him not to go to war with Iran lol
No.1835796
>>1835793True. That's why I mentioned Suzerain, lmao
No.1835797
>>1835768>>1835775He defunded ISIS, and is the reason Assad
stays. He abandoned toppling Venezuela, because he got bored. The coup in Bolivia was simply reversed. He pointlessly antagonized America's EU vassals. A literal million dead Americans from COVID. He started a trade war with China, because he felt like it. He made Korean relations worse. He actually assassinated Soleimani and abandoned the nuclear deal. Enemies of America no longer have an delusions about America's intentions.
No.1835807
>>1835797>A literal million dead Americans from COVIDMost of that is Biden's fault.
No.1835812
>>1835807When the first response to a possible pandemic is non-existent, it's Trump's fault.
No.1835820
>>1835745Yet somehow people here will still defend him. Not say that he is a lesser or more acceleration candidate. No outright DEFEND
No.1835825
>>1835818Before there was a vaccine, in the very opening weeks of the pandemic, the US postal service had a comprehensive plan to give out packets of masks to every US family in the event of a pandemic and trump made them stop because he didn't want "virus panic" and didn't want to "look weak". Luckily for him everyone forgot about this. Neither bourgeois president responded well to the pandemic. You don't need to glaze either of their wrinkled old cocks.
No.1835826
>>1835820it's just hazfags and glowtards
No.1835832
>>1835820It's not a defence. You have to look at his actions objectively.
>>1835797He started trade war with China to fix America's trade balance. This is a necessity for USA, negative trade balance is why the debt keeps climbing and US is getting deindustrialized. Korean and EU relations got worsened for the same purpose - the idea is for USA to restore it's trade balance, at the expense of everybody else
His Iran/Syria policies are a mystery, though
No.1835854
>>1835820You should reread that pic and contemplate what they're saying.
>if you don't participate in the US dollar dominance>we will make it even less palatable to participate in the US dollar dominanceThis soft power shit is
way past its expiration date.
No.1835873
>>1835825yeah whatever fag, biden is still worse
No.1835881
>>1835767I loved his last video where he showed Russian troops watching his videos in a dugout at the front.
No.1835896
>>1835825Made states go into competition for federal aid
No.1835904
>>1835873one of them will drive you off a cliff at 99/hr and the other will drive you off a cliff at 100/hr. The ruling class is still the ruling class you pedophile worshiping little shit stain.
No.1835912
>>1835911butthurt belt is baltics, not all of eastern europe
No.1835936
>>1835912balthurt belt
try saying it ten times as fast as you can No.1835950
>>1835912i dunno man are you sure
No.1835962
>>1835936balthurt belt
balthurt belt
balthurt bilt
balthurt bild
valderbild
vanderbilt
bilderberg
shit
No.1835967
>>1835873>>1835898>>1835904y'all are too invested. it doesn't matter who wins. the cia, the national security state and the porkers will still run the country no matter which figurehead is put in the white house to be the public face of the blob.
no matter who you vote for you get john mccain.
No.1835972
>>1835968Toyota is secretly run by sectarian Gaddafists.
No.1836040
brutal read by pro Ukraine shill
https://archive.is/qs7KU<Frontline Ukrainians Fear New Aid From U.S. Will Be a Disaster>Much of the world is celebrating fresh U.S. aid, but some of the people in the areas where it matters most think the war will be prolonged and the wrong people will benefit. No.1836048
>>1835968Technicals don't have much of a use in an artillery-saturated battlefield.
No.1836050
>>1835911No, they used to be fine and will be fine in the future
No.1836053
>>1835712>The reality is this war was caused by the decay of democracy under unprecedented international capitalism and wars for its expansion, which is a liberal contradiction destabilizing itself.You really should separate where the lie ends and the material reasons begin. This sentence reads as
>SMO was caused by bullshit liberals tell themselves instead of material reality and the real bourgeois interests being contested: NATO wanting to create Pakistan 2 Nazi edition to keep Russia distracted forever, and Russia finally deciding that this is a step too far after 8 years of willingly pretending that a peaceful solution was possible No.1836057
>>1835712I don't understand why you are so fixated on "dissecting liberalism" when even liberals don't care about the ideology and change it on the fly, and 99% of liberals go along with it. The few liberals who actually care about the ideology are "leftists" and actively shitting up social media with posts like "sunglasses are unethical".
No.1836066
>>1836057>I don't understand why you are so fixated on "dissecting liberalism" when even liberals don't care about the ideology and change it on the fly, and 99% of liberals go along with it. The few liberals who actually care about the ideology are "leftists" and actively shitting up social media with posts like "sunglasses are unethical".I believe liberalism is the ideological superstructure of global capitalism and understanding how it rationalizes the way the latter divides us undemocratically, causing the crisis of liberalism that requires us to double down on class warfare (the former USSR being the best example now), allows you to understand the rapid return to war after brief but unprecedented post-cold war peace.
No.1836073
>>1836066>undemocraticallylol
No.1836074
>>1836053I don't think that really captures what I am saying. I guess I'll try to summarize. I believe the SMO is the product of liberalism sliding into an international capitalist dictatorship via class warfare of the global ruling class, first with a period of global expansion and then especially with stagnation. Both are predicated on dealing with authoritarian barriers to capital rather than recognizing global capitalism itself is becoming authoritarian, with Ukraine demonstrating the cultural barriers of an essential nationality is all we have left at this point in history to blame as the obstruction to capital. This is a far cry from the days of emergent capitalism breaking down the barriers of a feudal class, and therefore it begs the question of whether it's actually capitalism setting up authoritarian barriers that divide the world and suppose liberalism's own limits of expansion (i.e. liberalism given its class character struggles to spread past the core-periphery relation and the dictatorship of rich nations it represents). This creates a closed, self-justifying system where insofar liberalism struggles to expand, so do we rely more on this international capitalist dictatorship to preserve it. The decay of democracy this suggests, revealing the answer to the 'democracy for who?' question, is the cause of tensions with Russia and would explain the utter inversion since the days of Gorby and Yeltsin. The tensions with Russia are then backwardly used to justify this decay as actually progress, since in liberal idealism a conservative backward country cannot possibly be reacting to regression in liberal democracy, so it must be how we are leaving behind 20th century authoritarian crimes that Russia doesn't like being undone, with the conclusion being the separating the traditional unity of Russia and Ukraine. We therefore need a transitional period of war and dictatorship to prevent the restoration of these crimes, because the only answer an open society can have to a closed one is to itself be closed in a transitional conflict period. Capitalism's subsequent need to consolidate the newly expanded European frontier clashed once again with Crimea and Donbass, but this time not from Kiev but D.C. Ergo, the SMO is a Russian counter-attack against intensifying global class warfare meant to deal with liberal stagnation. Russia is dealing with how in post-communist conditions the further spread of liberalism became predicated on an international dictatorship and a form of nationalism suppressing an ethnic minority to deal with a Russian frozen conflict obstructing expansion. The undemocratic nature of this evidences why liberalism stagnated in the east in the first place, it turned reactionary. In short, the cause of the Ukraine war is not actually Russia becoming illiberal because it's a premodern country in a modern world. It's the West becoming illiberal because the imperialist stage and the dictatorship it supposes suggests limits to the spread of liberalism, beyond which is reactionary war and dictatorship that enable its rejection.
No.1836083
>>1836067This guy is either a hongkonger or a geologist, either case who cares what he thinks
No.1836084
>>1836074Please break text into paragraphs
Russian people abroad, despite being villified by their countries, weren't a troublesome minority because they lived for generations there under both communism and tsarism. Hatred against Russian people in former republics is due to "nation-building" by those small nations and Russia's betrayal of Russians abroad
Liberalism became a reactionary ideology since feudal empires fell apart. There's nothing progressive about liberalism ever since then. Liberalism doesn't need capitalism to preserve it, because liberalism IS capitalism's brand ideology. Nationalism is just liberalism that positions itself as national, "for the people/country"
No.1836095
>>1835968Does Russia look like an unstable Middle Eastern country using conscripts to you?
No.1836195
>>1836067<EU politicians are utterly useless>Commentator adds his own opinion: I disagree. They resemble colonial puppets, loyal to Washington (Basically comprador regimes).100% accurate lmao
>>1836083So far, he sounds pretty good.
>According to that Chinese economist, the Dollar will become worthless still within this decade (~4 years)Big if true.
No.1836217
>>1835512Nah he just wants to COOM
>>1836074I know that using "reddit spacing" gets one flamed all too often on imageboards, but please, give it a shot.
No.1836236
>>1836195China going big into solar potentially breaks a good chunk of petrodollar hegemony
No.1836276
>>1836266>1 minute life expectancyKek
No.1836277
>>1836266Who could have only predicted this??? 😱
KEK
No.1836283
>>1836278>strictly on-road urban combat tankthen how did they operate on the sandy deserts of baghdad?
No.1836286
>>1836283The turbines got fucked by sand hard too.
No.1836309
>>1836295that pic frightens me
No.1836318
>>1836309Don't worry, Shroom Lenin can't get you.
No.1836409
https://jackrasmus.com/2024/04/23/ukraine-war-funding-failed-russian-sanctions-print/
>Subject to revision, initial reports of the composition of the $61 billion indicate $23.2 billion of it will go to pay US arms producers for weapons that have already been produced and delivered to Ukraine. Another $13.8 billion is earmarked to replace weapons from US military stocks that have been produced and are in the process of being shipped—but haven’t as yet—or are additional weapons still to be produced. The breakdown of this latter $13.8 amount is not yet clear in the initial reports. One might generously guess perhaps $10 billion at most represents weapons not yet produced, while $25-$30 billion represents weapons already shipped to Ukraine or in the current shipment pipeline.
>In total, therefore, weapons already delivered to Ukraine, awaiting shipment, or yet to be produced amount to approximately $37 billion.
>The remainder of the $61 billion includes $7.8 billion for financial assistance to Ukraine to pay for salaries of government employees through 2024. An additional $11.3 billion to finance current Pentagon operations in Ukraine—which sounds suspiciously like pay for US advisors, mercenaries, special ops, and US forces operating equipment like radars, advanced Patriot missile systems, etc. on the ground. Another $4.7 billion is for miscellaneous expenses, whatever that is.
>In other words, only $13.8 billion of the $61 billion is for weapons Ukraine doesn’t already have! No.1836419
>>1836409>In short, it’s hard to find a single statistic that shows the Russian economy has been negatively impacted by the US/NATO sanctions regime over the past two years. Indeed, an argument can even be made the sanctions have stimulated the Russian economy not undermined it.It's just one L after another for NATO huh
No.1836426
>>1836419Now NATO will be renamed NALTO
No.1836432
>>1836266Aren't gas turbine engines supposed to be able to run on near anything that burns?
No.1836433
>>1836426It's got so many Ls that they'll need to combine them for convenience sake. NA卍TO
No.1836434
>>1836432That's steam turbines.
No.1836436
Do you think the US is going to be able to handle losing in Ukraine? Failure in Afghanistan seems like it was memory holed real quick, but it seems like so much more is riding on this than Afghanistan. With as evil as they made Putin out to be, I don't know how they can just be like "welp we tried" and move on.
No.1836452
>>1835767I forgor to mention
>50+ Russian soldiers concentrated in a single building at the literal tip of the frontThere are no words to describe how
INSANELY STUPID that is.
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK WERE THEY THINKING?!50+ people there and none of them thought like "Uh, guys, maybe we shouldn't be bunched up like in a clowcar."
How are we
over 2 years in and the Russians still making such absurd tactical mistakes? Given that building was hit and 50 escaped, I don't even want to imagine how many were in there in total and how many died, because of the absolutely insane Russian leadership, which seems to be trying to get as many Russians killed as possible.
No.1836460
This is just getting sad
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/04/26/7453044/
>Details: More than 110 settlements in the Chernihiv, Sumy, Kharkiv, Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhzhia, Dnipropetrovsk, Kherson, and Mykolaiv oblasts were under artillery fire.
>On the Kupiansk front, Ukrainian soldiers repelled ten attacks near Kyslivka and Berestove (Kharkiv Oblast) and Stelmakhivka (Luhansk Oblast).
>On the Lyman front, the Russians attacked Ukrainian positions 20 times near Druzheliubivka (Kharkiv Oblast); Makiivka and Serebrianka Forest (Luhansk Oblast); Torske, Terny and Zarichne (Donetsk Oblast).
>On the Bakhmut front, Ukrainian troops repelled 26 attacks near Bilohorivka (Luhansk Oblast); Verkhnokamianske, Novyi, Mykolaivka, Vyimka, Spirne, Ivanivske and Klishchiivka (Donetsk Oblast).
>On the Avdiivka front, Ukrainian defenders repelled more than 30 attacks in the vicinity of Ocheretyne, Umanske, Nevelske, Keramik, Berdychi and Netailove settlements (Donetsk Oblast).
>On the Novopavlivka front, Ukraine’s Defence Forces are continuing to hold back the Russians near the settlements of Krasnohorivka, Pobieda, Novomykhailivka and Vodiane (Donetsk Oblast), where the Russians tried to break through Ukrainian defences 19 times.
>On the Orikhiv front, the Russians attacked the positions of Ukrainian defenders two times near Staromaiorske (Donetsk Oblast) and Robotyne (Zaporizhzhia Oblast).
>On the Kherson front, the Russians persist in their intention to drive Ukrainian troops from their footholds on the Dnipro River's left (east) bank. During the past day, they have carried out three unsuccessful attacks.
>Over the past day, Ukraine's Air Force hit two command posts, eight areas where Russian military personnel were concentrated and three anti-aircraft missile systems of the Russians.
>Ukraine's Rocket Forces and Artillery struck one command post and one cluster of Russian military personnel. No.1836463
>>1836436Except you and me nobody cares about Ukraine. Thats why they keep telling us how important Ukraine is for the west and blah blah blah.
People who dont follow geopolitics are like "Oh right, this war still goes on?"
No.1836464
>>1836436The end of the war is probably going to be the tensest period. Nato won't intervene to prevent Ukraine's defeat, but they will rush a bunch of shit towards Russia's border in order to "preempt" this bogus invasion threat they've created. That way they'll be able to say "Ukraine was lost but we stood up to the bully and protected the garden."
No.1836465
>>1836452Calm down, if it actually happened like that then there would be hundreds of drone videos
No.1836466
>>1836460i'm thinking russia won't be able to wrap it up before ukraine receives the western aid. russia have logistic issues of their own
No.1836468
>>1836466What western aid lol
Do you think that bill magically made 1 billion shells start existing?
No.1836470
>>1836465Gosh, I hope so. Maybe it was a Soviet-made building, which had an underground bunker to protect the majority of troops in there. It's crazy how many poured out like a disturbed ant hill and none of them appeared harmed.
No.1836471
>>1836466imo Russian "logistics issues" is just rationing so they can go all out in the big summer offensiev
No.1836472
>>1836466That does seem like the kind of big dunk that they'd crow endlessly about.
No.1836488
>>1836485Is this the first comic where ben is critical of trump? What a sight to behold.
No.1836489
>>1836485Oh shit, character development?
No.1836494
>>1836490it really is the "explain it to me in burgers" meme but with "make x great again"
No.1836509
>>1836452Ochyyretinyy status, clown? Ukrops always have this habit of saying they killed 10 000 ruzzians and destroyed 100 tanks the second they lost a hamlet or a city, with a single far away drone cam as proof.
Anyway, is Ruzzia this cheap?
No.1836513
>>1836509I lived in a really poor part but I remember internet being super cheap, phone super cheap, rent super cheap, but food and clothes being comparatively pretty expensive. All media is effectively free though which is nice
No.1836547
>>1836534So, nationalists have found solace in Surovikin after Prigozhin ceased to exist. Lol, lmao even
No.1836553
>>1836513unfortunately it's easier to pirate expensive media than grow enough food to make up for cost differences.
No.1836563
>>1836547Prigozhin is still alive retard
No.1836585
>>1836466Ukraine have already received the Western aid. They've repeated this pattern for most of the war. Weapons are released to Ukraine before official approval is given.
No.1836593
>>1836432They burn almost anything but it affects power and maintenance required. Also the key is "burn", just because they can burn heavier distillates when hot and running doesn't mean they can start off it on a cold day in Ukraine. The engines also need tuning to burn different fuels which I doubt the Ukrainians have much training on.
NATO uses kerosene based fuels (JP-8) for turbines. For ships where they might need to burn marine diesel or bunker fuel they have additional equipment.
No.1836658
>>1836593And they didn't pre-tune it to the most available fuel before handing it over to people with desperate supply chains because…?
No.1836665
>>1836658Because they're morons and the higher-ups don't care about if Ukrainians can actually fight or not. The Abrams withdrawal is just one of a multitude of similar stuff, see my post on
>>>/AKM/3900 and in the tank thread.
>>1836593>They burn almost anything but it affects power and maintenance required. Yep, I did an effort-post about it a few threads ago - Aussie's use a different fuel type and it causes increased maintenance and shortened engine-lifespan in their units.
No.1836716
>>1836665I wouldn't say it isn't because they don't care but because Americans have no understanding of fighting without their advanced logistics (and airpower). It's like the story of the NATO trainers telling the Ukrops to simply go around the minefield.
No.1836721
>>1836509>>1836513190 a month is insanely cheap for rent by western standards.
No.1836732
>>1836721yeah but where I was that was also the average person's monthly salary
No.1836739
>>1836266"obsolete, easy to maintain, and capable of being used in degraded mode"
No.1836887
>>1836884I think that the money spent to remove the monument and build and install the new one is greater than the scrap metal. Ukrainian nationalists will graft away the money meant for their victory, thereby hanging themselves with their own rope.
No.1836891
>>1836509Russian internet is insanely cheap, I pay like $7/month for 400 mbps and some pennies for unlimited phone data. Utilities are about $35 for my one bedroom apartment. Property and rent vary a lot, in Moscow, Petersburg and Sochi they can be as expensive as in the West which is a little absurd. Groceries are so-so, depending where you shop and what you buy.
No.1836892
>>1836485MAGA went woke over Ukraine. GWGB
No.1836909
>>1836884There were still intact Soviet monuments in Cuckraine?
LMAO, decommunisers are pathetically slow.
>>1836892I've been rubbing the Trump 'betrayal' into Trumptards' faces constantly. I suspect they may be primed to finally understand that every president is a bourgeois puppet and the voot not mattering.
No.1836939
>>1836909>I suspect they may be primed to finally understand that every president is a bourgeois puppet and the voot not matteringMaybe the more moderates of them, but you will never, ever, make a Qtard realize Trump isn't the second coming of Jesus Christ. These people believe that reports of Trump supporting Ukraine are either made up by the Democrats, that this is some kind of 5D chess move to own the Deep State, or that the evil Deep State has sent an agent to deceive Trump.
Don't bother trying to get them out of their delusions, if after 8 years they can't see the truth, they'll never be able to accept it.
No.1836942
>>1836909>I've been rubbing the Trump 'betrayal' into Trumptards' faces constantly. I suspect they may be primed to finally understand that every president is a bourgeois puppet and the voot not mattering.It's actually a great moment. Libs feel betrayed by Israel policy, cons by Ukraine policy. Both symbolize how domestic alignments are being overwritten by the global divisions. Previously after 2016 we projected the former on the latter as seen with Russiagate and CCP globalists tiktok cultural marxists or whatever, which caused us to overfocus on ruling class divisions in the West as a microcosm of the world's. We solve those then the victor drives on to fight the mirrored battle (liberal and illiberal or nationalist and globalist) on the international level (a key cause of the Ukraine war btw). Now we see it's just whatever upholds the empire and we see again irrelevant those divisions are. I belive the more international divisions drive politics, the less power neoliberals and right wing nationalists will have.
No.1836956
>russian forces advancing all over the place
i wonder where all the cucktin posters went
No.1836999
>>1836967The blue are the virtues ukraine nazis and the red are the evil commie russians
No.1837026
>>1837011Is that true? I heard a right sector-owned mechanized unit refused orders and fled
No.1837033
>>1837026I don't know about Rightoid Sector, but the 47th Mechanised and Azov brigades fled.
No.1837064
>Left unsaid by Militaryland.net in its defense of the 115th Brigade is the Ukrainian military’s wider manpower and equipment crisis. While Russia has mobilized hundreds of thousands of fresh troops since widening its war on Ukraine in February 2022, Ukraine has resisted full-scale mobilization—and only recently enacted a long-delayed law authorizing a significant round of conscription.
Lol. Lmao.
No.1837069
>>1837057I'm gonna love the "RUSSIA ATTACKS NEW YORK" headlines
No.1837072
>>1837069I'm gonna love the memes XD
No.1837073
>>1837064they are straight up lying now, very cool.
No.1837094
>>1837073Well, you know how the common myth is that USSR coscripted everyone, and Nazis were fighting an overwhelming horde at every point during the war and didn't conscript all that many soldiers?
No.1837107
>>1837102
This is huge. Gabon has been the most pro-French state in Africa for like 70 years. IIRC they even tried to stay part of France.
No.1837111
>>1837102
Why would any African country let colonialists have any kind of power in their own country anyways. I've been to Algeria countless times and everyone I met hates the french with a passion there. Did they realize they don't have to cater to the EU and Burgers anymore now that China, India and Russia have some say in the global market
No.1837118
>>1836967>>1836956>>1837045>>1837057These are just probing attacks i'm sure. The real offensive will start very soon. I can feel it in my vibes.
No.1837122
>>1837111Business connections. You can't do much trade or investment-wise when the whole world is either a colonialist nation or other colonialist nations who would sanction you in solidarity just so that their own colonized subjects wouldn't get wrong ideas
No.1837123
>>1837122>>1837111So, basically, the same idea as the one behind Russian-led Holy Alliance with Germany and Austria after Napoleonic wars, aimed against any and all revolutions
No.1837125
>>1837102
C'est fini..
No.1837141
>>1837133
>The 5,000-plus strong brigade has shed any far-right associations, relentlessly emphasised in Russian pre-invasion propaganda,it says that they rebranded away from the far right so its all cool ok ? putniist Russian disinformation. Corbin bad.
No.1837153
>>1837133<Soldiers sign the recently renovated sign marking the entrance to the Donetsk region after a visit by the Ukrainian president. >wolfsangle clearly visible on the Eevery time. i bet there's a bunch more shit on there I can't see on my phone.
No.1837156
>>1837133>Although soldiers on the frontline such as Makas report that “10 or 15 Russians are killed for every Ukrainian”, the team at Rusi believe, grimly, that Russia can sustain a casualty rate of about 20,000 to 30,000 month (roughly the current levels) for about another year, allowing Moscow’s forces to attack all along the frontline.lol
No.1837163
>>1837156>roughly the current levelsCitation needed
No.1837167
>>1837156Ay tone, something's not addin up. If 15 russkis are dying for every ukrainian, how come they gotta do another one of these 400,000 man moralizations again
No.1837198
>>1837141But Azov was actually successful at shedding accusations of nazism. You see, the media kept telling people that Azov are not nazis and they actually believed it. We can complain all we want, but the media has clearly stated that they've already shut us up on this issue.
No.1837237
>>1837198The article has a picture of some guy with tattoos on his hands. I wonder how likely it is that if you looked it up it'd be some obscure nazi symbol.
No.1837259
<Russian Defence Minister General of the Army Sergei Shoigu addresses defence ministers meeting of the SCO defence ministers in Astana:https://en.interaffairs.ru/article/sergei-shoigu-the-nato-alliance-s-troops-approached-the-russian-borders-and-created-additional-thr/[…]
>Sergei Shoigu proposed to invite representatives of other regional groupings, particularly the CSTO and CIS, as well as friendly countries, to participate in activities of the defence departments of the SCO – especially for operational and combat training – so that they may participate in the event.
>We believe that the implementation of these proposals will ensure the further development of the SCO and the maintenance of stability in the organisation's area.
>In conclusion, I would like to express my confidence that today's meeting of the Ministers of Defence of the SCO member States will contribute to further deepening ties between the defence agencies of the states and strengthening security. No.1837279
https://aurelien2022.substack.com/p/ukraine-a-guide-for-the-perplexed
>Finally, what about the deployment of actual western combat units? First, the idea that they could be deployed operationally on the front line and would make a difference to the outcome, is fantasy. I’ve pointed out before the practical problems of deploying western forces over such enormous distances. Likewise, it’s well known that most western armies are under-strength, have very limited logistic support, limited ammunition, and grave problems with equipment availability. But in many ways the problems go deeper. Senior commanders in western armies, at Brigade and Division level, have never fought a conventional war, and at best have studied such wars at Staff College. Their careers have been made in Afghanistan, on UN missions, and in low-intensity operations. Western armies as a whole have no tradition of mass armoured warfare since the end of World War II, and no tradition of studying and training for it for the last thirty-five years. In most western armies, “Brigades” and even more “Divisions” are essentially administrative organisations, that seldom if ever train together, and require reservists and perhaps units borrowed from elsewhere to enable them to operate as a formation.
>There is thus no institutional experience in large-scale high-intensity combat, nor even any institutional folk-memory of it. We also tend to forget just how violent and deadly such combat is: everybody remembers the horrific casualties of World War I, but in fact 1939-45 was just as deadly, even on the Western Front. Many years ago, during the Cold War, I recall talking to a young Major fresh out of Staff College who had been on a visit to the battlefields of Normandy, and been guided around one by a veteran. This individual recounted, to the stunned disbelief of the young officers, how his battalion had lost twenty officers and two hundred men in a few hours of combat one morning. Such a rate of losses has been unthinkable in modern times, and effectively means that the unit has been destroyed and will need to be pulled out of the line.
>But it gets worse. Of course it gets worse, because this is not World War II, or even one of the Gulf Wars. It is the first war fought with genuinely modern weapons of unparalleled destructive power, and real-time visibility of the whole battlefield. To some extent the Ukrainians had begun to learn about this kind of warfare after 2014, and the Russians had to learn very quickly in 2022. But there is no indication that the West really understands the tactical and operational lessons of Ukraine—that the military principle of concentration of forces rapidly becomes dangerous, for example—except as vague theoretical ideas. There is no doctrine, and no planning for this kind of warfare. Those more expert than me give a western Brigade perhaps half-an-hour in combat with Russian forces before it is wiped out, probably by opposing forces it cannot even detect. A missile strike on a Brigade HQ would be enough by itself to do a good part of the damage. No.1837284
>>1837111>AlgeriansTrue. Met an Algerian in a clinic. We got into a small conversation and probably within the first 5 sentences, he mentioned how much he hates France. LMAO!
I can't blame him obviously, but it was still funny how quickly he got there, since I wasn't even trying to talk about politics.
I agreed, he was so happy. :)
No.1837302
>>1837263>Americans want to pollute Ukrainian agricultural land with nuclear and industrial waste to increase dependence on American agricultural productsJesus Christ.
No.1837439
>>1837432billion
trillion
rillion
No.1837498
Just remembered the E-hentai servers are located somewhere around the Ukrainian border
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=255315&st=0&gopid=6078261&#entry6078261Tell Putin to pls no bomberino Ehentai, that would be worst than the burning of Alexandria library
No.1837499
>>1837111Reminder Algeria didn't get into the bricks because France asked India to not let them in
No.1837522
>>1837498Don't jinx it. They must have a mirror server anyway.
No.1837565
>>1837163>>1837156The often cited 30.000/month doesn't talk about casualties originally, just the whole flux of soldiers entering and leaving, most of it is just contracts running out.
Many Russian army contracts run for 12 months, few for more than 24. If the army is a million soldiers strong, they need some 350-500.000 soldiers a year to sustain contracts running out.
WIA and KIA are globally much more irrelevant to sustain that army than contracts are. They mostly just matter for the actual assault units.
Russia MoD signed over 400.000 volunteer contracts last year, which indicates that the army is fully self sustaining without mobilisation.
>>1837433>>1837439450.000 killed OR wounded is not a high number fo 800 days of war, since that's just like 80-100.000 killed, or 100 a day.
No.1837568
>>1837566Will anybody try to put flowers on that thing?
No.1837569
>>1837565>450.000 killed OR wounded is not a high number fo 800 days of war, since that's just like 80-100.000 killed, or 100 a dayWith a significant number of wounded returning to combat I imagine. I'm guessing casualties are inflated for Russia and Ukraine.
No.1837571
>>1837569does that wounded number count all types of wounded or only the irrecoverable ones?
No.1837578
>>1837466It's "'Adveyevka''', you Cockhole!
>>1837568I hope such Nazis get shot
>>1837466It's
Avdeyevka, you Cockhole!
>>1837568I hope such Nazis get shot
No.1837580
>>1837578AAAAAAHHHH! I'm too stupid to fix my posts!
Why does this keep happening???
No.1837584
>>1837566What could have been in another timeline….
No.1837600
>>1837498please putin bomb the pedo building
No.1837668
according to the U.S. intelligence agencies, they confirmed Navalny was not killed by putin.
No.1837669
>>1837668Classic cucktin.
No.1837699
Heyo, i've been touching grass for the past month, can you give me a recap of everything that happened while i was gone?
No.1837707
>>1837699Russians concolodated Avdeyevka, the Russians pierced the Cuckline west of it and made comparatively large gains the past few days. The airforce enjoys ever more freedom, because Cockhole air defence is depleting. Many missile strikes across Banderaland, destroying the powerplants.
Ukronazis have been sending their "elite" units to cope with the Russian breackthrough, getting fucked, their Abrams tanks wrecked and some even fleeing, refusing their orders.
The USA passed a new Cuckraine aid bill and is sending some new ammo.
Everyone expects a big arrow Russian offensov, when mud season ends in the coming weeks.
I can't believe I'm saying this as a consistent Russian doomer, but Russia might actaully win. This summer will definitely decide the fate of the war. It could end by 2025 if things go well.
No.1837712
>>1837707Naaaah, I don't believe in big arrows anymore. It will be grind and grind and grind without end, until either USA or Russia falls apart
No.1837719
>>1837712Analysts from both sides believe it is possible, but not guaranteed.
We'll see…
See
>>1837466This this the most significant progress in recent weeks. It's already outdated, since Keramik is almost taken if not already.
Formerly, they took one field per day. Now, it's a village per day.
No.1837722
>>1837707Thank Mr. Boneshevik
No.1837742
>>1837740progressing through the africa questline will surely enable the wagner players to see what the continent looks like after revamped map assets phase into the game
No.1837744
>>1837740everyone forgot about him until that christian guy got caught gooning in public in San Diego
No.1837745
are we in some kind of endgame with the surrenders and recrooters getting btfo? endgame as in a retreat to the Dnieper I guess.
No.1837787
>>1837765I mean, look at F16. Say what you want, but a plane that takes 3 years to train pilots for definitely has entirely failed in some aspects.
No.1837813
>>1837811Lmao
Still gave them the money.
No.1837815
>>1837811>>1837813also you can still clearly read it lol
No.1837841
>>1837811strongest ukrainian knife vs weakest russian rubber
No.1837846
>>1837761Nice fanfic, but Russia will fully decommunize itself and everything it comes in contact with
No.1837851
>>1834029Lmao what fucking defence industry? We can't even make shells for the Challenger II's gun (according to a wiki source that has since been deleted)
>>1834083See the above response
No.1837873
Whats the best response in "There was never a promise to not expand to the east"?
No.1837877
>>1837873https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early>U.S. Secretary of State James Baker’s famous “not one inch eastward” assurance about NATO expansion in his meeting with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev on February 9, 1990, was part of a cascade of assurances about Soviet security given by Western leaders to Gorbachev and other Soviet officials throughout the process of German unification in 1990 and on into 1991, according to declassified U.S., Soviet, German, British and French documents posted today by the National Security Archive at George Washington University (http://nsarchive.gwu.edu).
>The documents show that multiple national leaders were considering and rejecting Central and Eastern European membership in NATO as of early 1990 and through 1991, that discussions of NATO in the context of German unification negotiations in 1990 were not at all narrowly limited to the status of East German territory, and that subsequent Soviet and Russian complaints about being misled about NATO expansion were founded in written contemporaneous memcons and telcons at the highest levels.
>The documents reinforce former CIA Director Robert Gates’s criticism of “pressing ahead with expansion of NATO eastward [in the 1990s], when Gorbachev and others were led to believe that wouldn’t happen.”[1] The key phrase, buttressed by the documents, is “led to believe.”
>[…]
>The view of the State Department was that NATO expansion was not on the agenda, because it was not in the interest of the U.S. to organize “an anti-Soviet coalition” that extended to the Soviet borders, not least because it might reverse the positive trends in the Soviet Union. (See Document 26) The Bush administration took the latter view. And that’s what the Soviets heard.Basically there were repeated assurances to the USSR to guarantee the stability of Gorbachev's reform position within the party which would then be secured by connecting it to Europe, particularly Germany. 30 years later, connections between Russia and Germany became a strategic liability given American decline and stalled liberalization in the former USSR, which is closely tied to 90s strife perpetuated by decommunization yet depended on by European/liberal expansion. The system thus undid itself and supposed the need for NATO expansion as ersatz form of security forcing European unification, supposing a conflict with Russia then backwardly used to justify NATO expansion and reduce the cause of stalled political exports to a resurgent Russia.
No.1837882
>>1837877>connections between Russia and Germany became a strategic liability given American decline and stalled liberalization in the former USSRwhich is a post-2008 trend blamed on an earlier form of the trend in 2000s Russia. this is why the return of yanukovych in 2010 was so threatening and hillary clinton bitched loudly about putin replacing medvedev in 2011
No.1837900
>>1837882>hillary clinton bitched loudly about putin replacing medvedev in 2011Wouldn't Medvedev have been worse for Westoid imperialists? He likely wouldn't have hesitated as long as Cucktin in invading Cuckraine. Medvedev literally thwarted NATO's plans for Georgia.
No.1837915
>>1837900I think in the early years he was believed to be more liberal. I remember articles saying he listened to metalica and wore jeans
No.1837922
>>1835587Thank you Anon, this is some good shit.
No.1837924
>>1837922If you have it in pdf I would like it
No.1837928
>>1837915>I remember articles saying he listened to metalica and wore jeansLiberal personal freedom propaganda is the worst
No.1837942
>>1837740Oh, he's still alive?
No.1837948
>>1837302https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-42724-us-admits-top-weapons
>The US and NATO plan to create a “gray” zone in Western Ukraine
>Soros' son Alexander agreed with the Ukrainian authorities to allocate 400 square kilometers of agricultural land to American corporations for the disposal of hazardous waste, according to an investigation by French journalist Jules Vincennes.
>He writes, citing a source in the Ministry of Agriculture of Ukraine, that in November, Soros Jr. and the head of Zelensky’s office, Yermak, reached an agreement according to which Kiеv indefinitely and free of charge transfers land in the Ternopоl, Khmelnytsky and Chernоvtsi regions for the disposal of hazardous waste from chemical, pharmaceutical and oil production.
>Among the companies named are Dow Chemical, DuPont, BASF, Evonik Industries, Vitol and Sanofi. We remind you that Dow Chemical is the company which provided Agent Orange and Napalm to the American military to poison and destroy Vietnam. Whilst BASF is the company which provided Zyklon B to the Nazis.
>Probably, the decision was made after the destruction in the spring of 2023 by the Russian Armed Forces of ammunition depots with depleted uranium located in the Khmelnitsky and Ternopоl regions.
>This situation threatens an environmental disaster not only for Ukraine, but also for other countries in Eastern Europe and the Black Sea basin as a whole.
>Kiеv and Washington continue to use all means to prevent the possible entry of Western Ukrainian regions into the Russian Federation in the context of the ongoing retreat of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. No.1837957
>>1837740new call of doodoo campaign just dropped, playing as a russian SpecOp mercenary group hunting down kony somwhere in africa, your helicopter gets shotdown by child soldiers and falls into a river, you wake up realizing you've been saved by your squad, captain Pricinovich, gel lotion mactavish and Sans the skeleton, all four of you go on a murdering campaign inna jungle, maybe even doing a few warcrimes but it's okay because you stood still sad looking at the screen with a conflicted face after doing the warcrime which means you're still the good guy, after pulling a one liner to justify the warcrime like saying "we get covered in shit, and the worlds keeps it's bidet" you continue on your murdering spree using your very light equipments of a nightvision, mini drones, C4, kevlar, four frag grenades, four flashbangs, an AC130 gunship segment and a modified rifle and a sidearm that you'll ditch for the enemy's AK and smaller AKs as soon as you run out of ammo, after four missions of non stop killings and taking cover to regenerate everytime you take a bullet to the face, you catch Kony, but it turns out to be Makarov doing a black face the whole time, but you don't understand because your russian mercenary group are the GOOD russians and he is the BAD russian.
No.1837960
>>1837787It takes 3 years to train up from scratch. Any experienced fighter pilot can fly an F-16 with some training, but to master its particularities takes longer, same as any modern aircraft and even early aircraft. Piloting isn't like riding a bike where you can just fail until you get the hang of it.
No.1837971
>>1837787Just don't take attrition 4Head
No.1837974
>>1837947Based. Will it make it to Moscow in time for Victory Day? Find out in the next episode of SMO
Z!
No.1837978
>>1837960The opinions that I've read have called cross-training Ukrainian pilots on the f-16 is basically impossible because of the language barrier and because at such speeds you're more reliant on muscle memory than anything, so you're fighting to override their slavjet training.
No.1837995
>>1837948funny to see Yuri bezemnov there. he turned out to be Z-gang
No.1837997
>>1837978Damn, is piloting fighterjets really that hard?
No.1837999
>>1836432yes but the worse their products are the more money the arms contractors make, so everything they deliver is as broken as possible.
No.1838001
>>1837997not really, NATO jets are just needlessly complex so they can charge more for them.
No.1838010
>>1837978Older Ukrainian Su-27 pilots have flown F-16s, but most of the were shot down earlier in the war, so what Ukraine is left with is the less experienced pilots who will not be able to become more than mediocre on these new aircraft. But frankly even if they had 5 years of training, it wouldn't matter. I posted this in
>>>/AKM/ a while back, but a few years back a very experienced Ukrainian Su-27 pilot (who later died in combat during the SMO), flew an F-16 and considered its capabilities largely inferior to the Soviet-era Su-27 he was already flying, with only the electronics being notably better. Given the F-16 model was a modern one, and his Su-27 was a 1990s model, that's a given. The point is, the F-16 is not going to solve issues, hell planes like the A-10, or Su-25 and Su-24 are more needed, since air-ground is more prevalent than air-air. The F-16 requires tons of maintenance, is by no means a close range strike-aircraft and it's single engine has always been the subject of criticism, as many suffered crashes from damage that would be negated simply by having a second engine like the F-18.
The ONLY advantage the F-16 has is that NATO supplied ground attack missiles won't need to be modified to interface with the F-16s systems, compared to the Soviet aircraft in Ukrainian use, but that's negligible.
TL;DR: F-16s offer little to no advantage over something like the Su-27 or Su-24 and are going to be SAM fodder.
>>1837974We've got a few weeks, the Leo-2 got fixed up enough for display in a week, and I reckon the same for the Abrams.
No.1838013
>>1837997I'm not an expert but it makes sense to me. You're strapped to a rocket going at insane speeds, in an environment where weapons just as fast or faster are getting lobbed at you. You've got to make split second decisions while performing several actions at once on top of the physical forces acting on your body. It doesn't seem like the kind of thing that you can just pick up in a matter of weeks or months.
When I was younger and learning the drums, my instructor was really particular on practicing the proper method so as not to pick up "bad habits" that negatively effect your playing, because once those habits are ingrained you have to train twice as hard to unlearn them. I imagine trying to learn on an entirely different weapon system with an entirely language etc is a pretty huge task
No.1838073
>>1838010the SU-27 is a higher caliber of fighter, yes, and much more capable due to being a dual engine, but anyone who isnt a total dipshit understood that before.
the F-16 is like the MiG-29. it's not as good as the top notch model (F-15) but it's cheap enough to mass produce, rugged enough to fly anywhere and good enough to do MOST things.
all the nafo waffentwerps who act like the F-16 is some magical UFO that will break Erich Hartmann's record over the skies of Ukraine were always delusional.
the F-16 is the toyota corolla of jets, and its still probably the best and most capable airplane the Ukrops can actually operate. the others are too fragile.
No.1838076
>>1838010>Leo-2 got fixed up enough for display in a week, and I reckon the same for the AbramsI think you should actually click the link and look at the image before you decide that
that is a real fix'er-upper.
No.1838138
>>1838083>Blood and soil patchOf course…
No.1838163
>>1838073> F-16 is the toyota corolla of jetsDoesn't Ukraine have to keep clean airstrips and deal with much more hassle in maintenance compared to their soviet jets? Doesn't sound as simple as a corolla.
No.1838184
>>1838163The f-16 needs pristine runways, yeah.
No.1838248
>>1838076The Leo-2 was in similar condition externally (which is what matters for a display vehicle), the damage on the outside is primarily outer sensors destroyed and some armor panels displaced such as the blow-outs. Suspension is a bit damaged too but that, along with the road-wheels and tracks is maybe a week's work in a proper tank-repair shop. The internals are fucked on this particular Abrams (there's another that has an intact fighting compartment but I'm not sure if it's been recovered yet, as footage from inside it was filmed by Russian troops a while back. I wouldn't underestimate Russian repairwork, I've seen some fucked-up vehicles that look beyond repair, be up and running in 2 weeks, sent back to battle again.
>>1838073>the SU-27 is a higher caliber of fighter, yes, and much more capable due to being a dual engine, but anyone who isnt a total dipshit understood that before. And yet the F-16 was being touted as a gamechanger or otherwise meaning something important.
>rugged enough to fly anywhere*laughs in maintenence crew* Are you having me on? The F-16 is one of the most tempermental planes in the USAF only surpassed by the F-35. Even the F-18 or F-22 aren't as accident prone. There's a reason single engine fighters are not very popular.
>the F-16 is the toyota corolla of jets If only
>its still probably the best and most capable airplane the Ukrops can actually operate. the others are too fragile. Ukraine rejected Australian F-18s. F-18s are prone to accidents as well, but they're a very rugged design, far more than the F-16, and have better chances in such a heavy SAM environment, as they've got an engine that can possibly keep the plane in the air enough to reach base or at least let the pilot properly eject, they're easier to maintain, more familiar as they have similar internals to a MiG-29 and have a lower crash rate than F-16s by several magnitudes. The heavy undercarriage, meant for carrier operations, also means they're better suited for fucked up runways and are capable of shorter take-off and landings as well. Only a skilled F-16 pilot can do a very short take-off and its a risky maneuver even then, let alone in the hands of inexperienced Ukrainians.
No.1838295
>>1837997CJ from San Andreas did it in like 2 months, how hard can it be
No.1838301
>>1837877Thanks. My dad insists that the "promise not to expand" was "bad diplomacy from the Soviets" who were "dumb to not get it in writing."
No.1838302
>>1838248it's not even really a matter of maintenence, the dills can just ship them back to poland. the problem is their airfields. the only american plane that can operate from runways and hangars like that is the F-16.
No.1838303
You can't convince me that it takes 2+ years to train already-pilots for this. They're stalling for different reasons.
No.1838310
>>1838303They're running out of carrots for the stick
No.1838327
>>1838010>air to air not neededAir to air is most direly needed for Ukraine, to deal with the glide bomb launchers.
>>1838073>>1838248Ukrainian Su-27 and Mig-29 are vastly inferior to the F-16 because they have no good BVR missiles and much larger RCS than the F-16.
No.1838329
>>1838327Ah, but Russians have anti-air superiority. You can't launch air-to-air
No.1838330
>>1838329Ukrainians use AASM Hammer and JDAM-ER at targets several km behind the front, which means they could get close enough to launch a D model AMRAAM at Russian aircraft.
No.1838334
>>1838330every once in a while comes a /k/oper who keeps on jerking off to Westoid tech superiority. Is that you?
No.1838343
>>1838303It takes four-five years to train from scratch a Western fast jet pilot. Ukrops also haven't been sent to train in large numbers for two years.
But yes they are stalling because they know even if the F-16s are very successful against Russian aviation that the dumb ass Ukrops will lose a bunch to even short range SAMs trying to do tactical bombing etc.
No.1838350
>>1837873Punching the liberal in the face. They are disingenuous and will dance around no matter how much evidence is shown because there was no formal treaty promising no NATO expansion.
No.1838353
>>1838350Besides, they are good guys, and lying and cheating and stealing is allowed to good guys, they have the plot immunity tp criticism just like Harry Potter
No.1838369
>>1838350Any promise or treaty doesn't matter anyway because the operating principle is dealing with the division of the world between self regulating petit bourgeois democracy and ancient tyrannical civilization or empire full of stupid people governed by a despot. If capitalism polarizes us over this division inherited from colonialism it takes precedence. The problem is the stagnation of democracy being blamed on barriers to capitalism rather than it transforming into a global dictatorship in the absence of them
No.1838408
>>1838343>It takes four-five years to train from scratch a Western fast jet pilot.But why? They're supposed to pilot one, not build one from scratch. If this shit needs a fucking masters degree to operate, it is an utter failure in terms of usability.
No.1838414
>>1838408Because combat flying isn't just getting the plane off the ground and being able to land it again. It takes around two years before an infantryman is considered fully trained by Western standards.
Sure they could get Ukrops out launching missiles on a much shorter time frame but the fatality rate will be significantly increased.
No.1838417
>>1838408>>1838414Also every Western airforce is actually having massive issues with fast jet pilots now. The boomers are retiring from airline jobs so the pay there is much better without all the military bullshit. This compounds the issue with training these pilots costing 5-10 million USD (depending on jet).
No.1838418
>>1838417the USAF has a pilot shortage from what I've heard
No.1838423
>>1838418It's literally everyone. The airline industry for decades was subsidised by all the Cold War jet pilots. But with the force drawdowns in the '90s and declining generation cohorts there isn't enough jet pilots to take the place of the Cold War boomers as they retire.
There was/is also fuckery over the last ten years with the assumption that drones would obsolete pilots in the near future. And that human pilots would be needed in smaller numbers to fly F-35 "motherships" coordinating UCAVs.
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