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 No.4531[Reply]

What it says on the tin - I've seen a couple threads about preparing for a Guerrilla war or whatever, but not much about defending yourself and others at a demonstration or during a riot, which is obviously a much more common situation to find yourself in. I specifically had defending from riot police in mind, but anything would be interesting/useful.
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 No.4583

>>4582
>not living in childish LARPism
its all a larp until it isnt, fed

 No.4584

>>4583
you won't be like Moa, you will end up like the weather underground, a joke that even the police didn't take seriously.

 No.4585

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>>4584
>you won't be like Moa
your probably right we'll be better

 No.4589

Related to this, around the time of 9/11 and the Iraq and Afghan war the US Army were taking anyone and everyone. It actually became a problem because it’s believed they let in a lot of white nationalist gang associated or perspective members and norteno gang members from California. They came back trained better the cops. There is video of it. I think the guy had an AK

 No.4797

>>4536
Why? Is there a better read out there?



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 No.1696[Reply]

So fascists are becoming reckless in my city and although I'm now terminally online enough to not get in those stupid fights anymore they since recently keep doing those retarded flash attacks on places leftists have. My old father sometimes does the dude at the counter ready to receive anyone in an anarchist library which was attacked like two days ago and there's no way I'm letting him keep doing that without any protection so I'm getting him weapons, but legal and non lethal. Since the fucks attacking come in between 5 and 20 people I want to get him a big ass pepper spray but the legal limit is 100ml here.

So is it sufficient to push away a cowardly rightist gang probably drunk? Are there any tricks to deter relatively big groups of retarded people without hurting anyone too much for a smart average joe using non lethal and legal weapon?

Also thread to discuss those weapons I guess.
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 No.1816

OP what did you wind up doing?

 No.2338

>>1714
you are full of shit or delusional. stop looking for a fight you freak.

 No.2342

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>non-lethal

bold of you to assume the moment you threat with non lethal violence they won't resort to lethal violence and then make a day with a case of how it was a "patriot exercising self defense against those antifa terrorists"

What you want is a "handheld struggle ender"
or like we like to call it down here a "farm knife" but what we're thinking is "cuchillo saca tripas" (gutting knife)

heard you can get a couple used ones on ebay and shit.
if you know how to hit a gut shot fight's over before anyone knows because what you're doing is quite literally hooking someone's innards inside out.

heard you can get one at mexican "hood" stores
but if you can't find one cus they are a bit difficult to come by (which is why i'm forging mine)
you can just go for the "csgo kiddie" version the karambit which i'm convinced you can get quite literally anywhere.
not even half as devastating but you can get a couple good cuts to come out on top anyway.

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>>1719
NaNO3 is sometimes easier to get than KNO3 and you can turn the former into the latter using metathesis with KCl from low sodium salt
https://www.pyrogarage.pl/ sells KNO3 in Europe
t. /chem/ on >>>/edu/
also may I suggest picrel but with a not too sharp wooden tip



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 No.4696[Reply]

I'm thinking about getting a mossberg 88 which is only about $300 and seems to have really good reviews. I'm wondering what other kind of guns are under $600 but still worth picking up?
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 No.4771

https://palmettostatearmory.com/daily-deals-new.html

Just get some ar 15 on sale. You can even find some well reviewed ones for under your 600 price tag. Be careful with the rules with the "pistol" ones.

 No.4772

Why ever suggest a handgun to anyone for any purpose? We have hundreds of years of war data showing handguns cause 0.00001% casualties (except for suicides) because they are hard to shoot accurately.

 No.4773

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>>4772
Well in domestic society they cause 80% of firearm casulalties.

 No.4774

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I only got hit by 5 9mms to the chest and then one to the skull when I fell to the ground. Nothing but a scratch. No stopping power that one.

 No.4776

>>4772
Handguns look cool, are easy to hide, and are great for 90% of situations you'd find yourself in. I can't imagine why you wouldn't have one?



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 No.1800[Reply]

Hey /AKM/, what do you think of my new neck knife?
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 No.2066

>>1800
I was considering learning martial arts since guns for self defence are illegal in my cunt but I reckon a knife would do the trick, thoughts?

 No.2067

>>2066
Yeah

 No.2070

Can I suck your dick?

 No.2108

>>1800
dfkgjdflkgdfkgdf holy shit pls top me

 No.4775

I have a dagger-like one with a T- shape. A lot smaller but equally as stabby and probably easier to use. Can't show it as I gave it to my sister for rape prevention.
Fun fact: I procured a similar one for a british gang member that I met in an institution. In minecraft, of course.













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 No.3610[Reply]

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 No.3647

>>3638
There were more

 No.3763

Skinwalker hunting kit
The knife is for fun and the gun is also for fun but also to shoot myself

 No.4750

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Ancapistan loadout

 No.4756

I serve the Soviet Union.

 No.4759

>>4756
>fascist stick grenades



 No.1769[Reply]

How do people here feel about air guns?
Are they good for self defence? or offense?

 No.1770

There's a guy on fosscad who made his own with more power than ones sold over the counter
https://www.reddit.com/user/Proof1447/submitted/
Free download I think

 No.1796

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I just have a break action air rifle. I've mounted a red dot on it, will give that a try soonish

>>1770
I see one of the comments mentions Caselman's air machine gun. I found the plans for it at https://thehomegunsmith.com/CaselmanAPMG.shtml . attached pdf related for posterity
here's another build of it: https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/05/02/32-cal-caselman-air-powered-machine-gun/
another build: https://www.airmachinegun.com/caselman_build.htm

vid and gif related are someone who built a more compact design that fires round BBs. relevant forum post: https://www.spudfiles.com/viewtopic.php?p=386263#p386263

 No.4573

I have the pellet gun in the op, american classic. it is the only pellet gun i own at the moment (but i've used others).


that thing on a full pump will hurt. close enough it'll puncture the skin. a point blank shot to the skull will penetrate it. i don't think it'll go in far and i'm 100% positive they will live.

so defensive i would say the site of a pistol or w/e might deter some people, offensively i would say you better be a good aim and hit them in the eye

story time


i got my dogs thanksgiving dinner one nov that way. they cornered a possum and i grabbed the American Classic and put one in its skull point blank. it lived. did it again. and it continued with its living… i felt bad, don't get me wrong. who woulda thought it would have lived a point blank shot to the head.

 No.4681

>>4573
Thats why you keep some cheap 22. by your side for the purposes of pest control. The cheapest option in the US would probably be some single shot "daughters first gun" bolt action but i cant speak from expeeience as im a nogunz at the moment

 No.4685

>>1769
They aren't that strong but I've heard that competitive shooters use airsoft replicas of guns they have so they can practice handling indoors since they're basically silent. Also it's good for iron sights training.



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 No.1305[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Ok, I'm going to make the dreaded question.
Could normal size mechas (like, 1.5 storey tall) be actually viable in warfare?
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 No.4479

And back to physics. There is a reason that fucking geckos and spiders and bugs can walk on ceilings, goats can climb nearly verticle and elks and fucking elephants can't. Once again basic physics. You can't just size things up.

 No.4480

like, what's the point of bait if you have to write this much

 No.4482

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>>4476
>I doubt there is much wasted space on the inside of the armor.
<tanks are the same as BMPs!
If you're just going to argue bad-faith nonsense like this then you may as well just stop.
>To balance it on two legs and have armored limbs would by neccesity make the armor thinner.
No, that's not how weight distribution works, look at any bipedal robot currently doing fucking backflips and running like a human, while being even more top-heavy. Hell look at HUMANS our upper halves are equivalent-heavier than our legs.
>the same HP it takes to move a wheel barrow is much less than the HP it takes to physically carry it.
Shit analogy that doesn't actually make sense, but lets play ball for a moment. When that Wheelbarrow reaches a wall, are you rolling it over the wall? No. When that wheelbarrow needs to scale a mountain, can it? No. If you need to move on a narrow path with little room to move, are you going to roll the wheelbarrow through it comfortably? No. You're going to be carrying it over the wall, through the narrow area, or up the mountain.
>the material of the armor is irrelevant
No it is not. Armor is not all the same, neither over time nor over different vehicle types.
>Wheeled vehicles can climb steeper inclines than tracked vehicles
HAHAHAHAHAHA No. Tracks possess far greater ground contact area and so traction, than wheels, which is why they can climb inclines better.
>you have yet to show legs would offer any advantage
More burden of proof fallacy, and this coming from a guy posting a light buggy climbing sideways up a slope while almost falling. I don't have to demonstrate what is obvious fact, but to prove it anyway I will proceed to use "basic" Kinesiology with the concept of Center of Gravity. Walking motion requires moving the center of gravity up and down, which means on a level, uninterrupted surface wheels would be more advantageous (i.e. a road or flat plain) but if terrain is rough, (large rocks, variable ground softness (sandy/swampy terrain etc.) and/or steep, the upward motion of center of gravity is advantageous.
Additionally on a steep incline people change how they Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Honestly since you're just repeating the same shit over and over again I'm just going to ask a few simple questions with a Yes or No answer.
Can a tank, car or ANY rolling vehicle climb a roadless mountain? Y/N
Can a tank, car or ANY rolling vehicle drive over a meter thick, 2 meter-tall wall? Y/N
Can a tank, car or ANY rolling vehicle step/jump over/across a row of mines or barbed wire? Y/N
Can a tank, car or ANY non-amphibious rolling vehicle drive through a deep river without stopping and preparing tubes and other equipment? Y/N
Can a tank, car or ANY large rolling vehicle traverse jungle without having to crush and smash through dozens of trees at high pace? Y/N
Can a tank, car or ANY rolling vehicle turn on a 1-2 meter radius?
Can a tank, car or ANY rolling vehicle manipulate objects with fine control without a manipulator arm?
Can a tank, car or ANY rolling vehicles re-arm and refuel without any crew or logistics crew stepping/being outside the vehicle, in CBRN conditions?

 No.4671

>>4454
>>4452
Kalashnikov Concern demo'd a mecha walker in 2018 called Игорёк. It's for civilian use, with a multi-person cockpit, with manipulators resembling that of a Deep-Sea submersible and leg structure reminiscent of the ED-209 or Star Wars AT-ST.



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 No.2594[Reply]

Is there anyone who would be willing to do a reading groups about warfare, strategy and tactics at a theory level? and possibly should, can or how could we use these concepts and theories into our own non-kinetic projects and more broadly the class/social war/.
I'd be very interested in this as it will help me grapple with the ideas bettert. We could do it on an easy to anonymously communicate platform and choose a book or theme collectively.

 No.2595

I've got too much on my plate rn
Sorry comrade :(

 No.2617

>>2594
Sounds very interesting to me. I may wish to join in a few months time. Thank you for the offer anon.

 No.4664

>>2594
I dunno about a reading group, but is there a list/archive of MODERN(so at least ww2) military literature? Specifically military, not guerilla/terror stuff. Some youtube channels about military would also be appreciated.

 No.4665

>>4664
And I'm not talking about stuff like "how to treat your wounds and handle your ak", but preferably stuff like "how to be an infantry squad leader".

 No.4666




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 No.4603[Reply]

How do you take it from a prepper LARP to a legitimate strategy and contingency plan? From what I understand, plenty of revolutionaries have had to do this through history to survive. It seems like a very important skill to have in the event that you need to evade fash or rapidly declining material conditions during the fall of capitalism.

Realistically, how do you accomplish this? Even in an extremely generous situation where you have your own land in the middle of nowhere, and have the money to buy supplies (clothing, repair equipment, tools) once in a while, it seems nigh-impossible in the modern era. Not only do you have to survive mother nature and construct and maintain reliable shetler and storage, you also have to somehow secure methods of maintaining gun supplies, food, clothing, information, etc. Most of this seems to demand either a lot of money or a lot of crime (which has its own issues with making the local proles hostile to you)

I'm interested in resources and methods of training survival skills (without getting myself killed like a retard).
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 No.4605

>>4603
>plenty of revolutionaries have had to do this through history to survive
they always had support from local communities. You most importantly need a support system

 No.4611

See https://100r.co/site/off_the_grid.html
It's the comprehensive guide that everyone seems to forget.

 No.4612

Build a bunker to survive WW3 nuclear shit. It can't be that hard

 No.4613

LARP preppers, which dominate SEO on the subject because their conception of prepping is largely based in consumption rather than sustainability, have main character syndrome and want to Minecraft Steve their way to survival while mowing down all the poors for any excuse they can get.

Real prepping would require a cooperative of some sort, and involve permaculture farming.

 No.4628

The way you take it from LARP to Contingency is writing it down with quantities.



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 No.4606[Reply]

https://archive.is/z20SZ
>The F-22 Raptor, the United States’ fifth-generation stealth aircraft designed for breaching enemy air defenses, encountered a formidable adversary in the form of the Korean-made FA-50 fighter jet.
>The most recent encounter of these two aircraft in a combative setting took place in the skies over Luzon, where the FA-50 belonging to the Philippine Air Force [PAF] closely contested the American war jet and even alleged to have achieved a successful “kill” against the F-22. A noticeable surge in defense collaboration occurred between the Philippines and the United States in the year 2023.
>The Philippines, a nation of islands situated in the South China Sea, witnessed the arrival of numerous cutting-edge fighter jets for the first time. The Korean-made FA-50 was reported to have defeated the U.S. Air Force’s F-22 Raptor during the 2023 iteration of the ‘Cope Thunder’ exercise between the U.S. and the Philippines, an event making a comeback after a hiatus of 33 years.
>In a recent journal entry, the Philippine Air Force [PAF] disclosed an unexpected achievement. Notably, the radio was alive with the confident proclamation of a Filipino fighter pilot during an aerial combat exercise with the F-22 Raptor, “Fox 2! Killed one Raptor on the right turn!”
>The journal entry elaborates, “This incident marked a momentous development in military history. The Philippine’s Lead-in Fighter Aircraft triumphed over a 5th generation fighter jet in a simulated court of air combat, which took place in the airspace over Luzon, within the context of the Cope Thunder Exercise.”
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 No.4610

Yeah I heard about this. Though to be fair that training jet isn't exactly a slouch either.

 No.4615

The magic word is "dogfight".
The F-22 is a fifth gen jet designed for long range and beyond visual range attacks using missiles.
In a regualr combat scenario, the F-22 can fire missiles at the FA-50, before even getting detected by radar.
Fifth gen jets regularly lose gun dogfights to fourth gen jets because stealth design and general considerations for BVR engagements reduce the ability to turn fight while being subsonic.
And this is totally irrelevant for combat as the last two decades have seen virtually zero dogfights in jet to jet engagements. The future of jet fighting is slinging missiles at each other over more than 100 km range.

 No.4619

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>>4615
This is retarded. Dogfights absolutely still happen and is both proven in previous wars -from Vietnam to Lebanon - and in modern simulations of a US air-battle with Chinese and Russian air forces
>the last two decades have seen virtually zero dogfights in jet to jet engagements.
The last 2 decades have barely HAD any jet to jet engagements because most air-force activities have been ground attack against under-armed guerillas and terrorists or civilians. However dogfights do occur.
- In Syria an F/A-18 shot down a Su-22
- In India a MiG-21 modernization shot down a Pakistani F-16 and more than one skirmish of this kind has occurred between them.
- During the late 90s Yugoslav and Serbian wars dogfights happened quite often, with MiG-29s and MiG-21s engaging F-16s, Panavia Tornados and other aircraft in close-range combat.
- Russian fighter jets, primarily the Su-35, have shot down drones with auto-cannon fire over Ukraine

Dogfighting was declared dead in the 1960s and Vietnam disproved that, which is why all fighter-jets today still mount autocannons. Dogfights would continue into every conflict of every war after. The first Gulf War had an F-15 engage two MiG-29s and there were a few more close range engagements in that war.

The idea that BVR will end dogfighting is retarded because counter-measures against such missiles will improve with the missiles and never guarantee a hit. This was proven in Iraq when F-15s with AIM-120s failed to shoot down MiG-25s because they simply avoided, out-maneuvered and out speeded the missiles, with the F-15s likewise avoiding the R-40s fired back at them. DFRM and other countermeasures mean Active RADAR seekers are vulnerable to spoofing, Semi-Active missiles force the firing aircraft to reveal its position by actively using RADAR and IR-guidance is primarily used for close range engagements and is vulnerable to flares and decoys.

Finally the F-22 was built specifically to outperform the F-15 Eagle, including in maneuverability and IS more maneuverable than it, so no the excuse of "stealth design and general considerations for BVR engagements reduce the ability to turn fight while being subsonic." is absolutely untrue.

 No.4620

>>4619
Most of what you listed from the last two decades weren't dogfights and all of them are irrelevant border skirmishes.
Dogfights are just beyond irrelevant in real wars like Ukraine, as ground based air defence utterly denies enemy jets ever meeting within visual range. And yes, the F-22 and F-35 regularly lose mock gun fights against F-16 because it is not the role they were designed for.

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>>4620
Yes those were dogfights - close range shoot-outs within visual range, the same applies to Cope Thunder and other previous F-22 involved exercises.
>ground based air defence utterly denies enemy jets ever meeting within visual range
And yet they have, because air-defense is not perfect and counter-measures exist. The primary reason we don't see many air-air battles in Ukraine is because the Ukrainian air-force is operating older units, in much smaller numbers and most of them were destroyed on the ground, along with bases that were close to Russia. In turn the VKS doesn't push deep into Ukrainian territory because there is no need for long range aerial operations against a nearly non existent air-force and the primary target are ground-based, not aerial.
>the F-22 and F-35 regularly lose mock gun fights against F-16 because it is not the role they were designed for.
Excuses. The F-22 is extremely maneuverable as a design and has thrust-vectoring. Both it and the F-35 are supposed to outperform the F-16 and F-15 in aerodynamic capabilities as well as BVR and stealth. The F-22 achieved this, being more maneuverable than any of its 4th Generation predecessors, the F-35 failed and this is part of the reason the F-35 is criticized as a replacement to the F-16 and F-18. The F-22's main problem aside from technical issues is the lack of an IR targeting system and its prohibitive expensive and complicated production per unit, which is why the program never reached 200 planes. And just because the F-22 is supermaneuverable, and superior to its predecessors does not mean other air-craft are incapable of shooting it down in WVR and BVR combat.

TL;DR: Any turning aircraft bleeds off energy. Some more than others. The F-16 is one of the best fighters for holding energy through transonic turns, better at that even than an F-15C but not nearly as good as F-22 with its thrust vectoring.
Dog-fighting may be a reduced quality, but it absolutely still exists and the F-22 was absolutely designed with being superior to the F-16's, F-18's and F-15's capabilities in mind.



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