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Academic Bussywork Comrade 11/21/2020 (Sat) 04:40:57 No. 5981 [Reply]
I feel like the busywork is college is draining my desire to live. How do people make it through four years of this?
>>5981 You don't.
>>5981 Just deal with it, you don't want to be struggling to survive if you have the chance to get an education to get a better job and therefore more money for praxis. Think of it as your mini long march of your individual life to become less of a wage slave, assuming your degree gives higher salaries. Many proles work jobs, raise kids, and also do college, so you can too comrade. I hope you are finished on time good luck
that’s what I thought at first, and now I did so poorly that I’m doing it in 5 years
Had the same thing but I managed to scrape through with the grade I wanted in the end. >>6124 I like this though >Think of it as your mini long march of your individual life to become less of a wage slave But it'll depend on what motivates you. What motivates you comrade?
Same as >>6127 and I also owe my university a lot of money, so chop-chop if you don't want to end up like me.

Comrade 11/27/2020 (Fri) 05:30:21 No. 6091 [Reply]
>The author voices concern that the philosophers Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels failed to incorporate women's oppression into their critiques of capitalism. What is "The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State" for $300, Trebek?
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>>6101 obligatory dumbass tankie post
>>6102 Not him but what's so dumb about it? And I hope, that you know Zetkin and Kollontai are not Tankies
>>6102 >Hurr ur tankie 1) That's not an insult except in the minds of childish thorylet ankids and their infantile fantasies 2) There is no argument. Feminism is a goal, not a method, and to practice it is to practice identity politics and therefore, go against Socialism 3) The practical results of the USSR demonstrate success. In the USA the Suffragettes barely achieved anything other than 'voting' and 2nd/3rd wave feminism was mostly liberal contrarianism that porky used to pit men against women creating sectarian divides based on mostly bourg pseudoscience. In the USSR women had maternity leaves and accommodations for them, they could take ANY work they wanted but were also not pressured to choose tradionally masculine labour just to be contrarian. They had equal rights and their place in the labour force appropriately complimented men, just as men complimented them, rather than competing over nothing. Women in the Red Army were usually nurses but NOTHING stopped them from being ordinary soldiers and killing Nazi scum, nothing stopped them from leading factories and being awarded for heroism and labour. That is real women's rights, and not some imagined whining.
>>6104 >only "theorylets" dislike MLs lol
>>6106 Leftcoms and ancoms who aren't bad faith idealists disagree with MLs and may oppose them, but do not resort to petty emotional "hurr ur tankie", in-part because this argument is easy to flip right back at them and also in part because it is immature and not an argument, as you still don't have one.

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Comrade 11/20/2020 (Fri) 03:11:36 No. 5968 [Reply]
How does this make you feel?
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>>5968 the alchamist is a good book 10/10 would read again
Chairman Mao is based
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It makes me feel annoyed at the graphic design.
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>>5968 >most read How do you know that people read the books they purchase instead of just putting them on a shelf as display? I think this would be more accurate if it said "Most purchased books" rather than "Most read books"
>>5970 Ah, I may be able to answer this. Dedicated Muslims would have one decorated Quran, and hang it on a wall with a string so that it isn't touching the ground/table. There is no giving people Qurans like people do with Bibles. It's more of a decoration than actual reading stuff. A similar thing that happens is giving people calendars with Quran verses and other religious stuff.

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Marx's "Capital" And One Free World Comrade 11/24/2020 (Tue) 04:44:57 No. 6027 [Reply]
Has anyone read it? What do you think of its attempt at refuting marxism, its socioeconomic analysis, and Hegelian logic?
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>>6042 Not without being Marxist in the same way that one cannot have an intellectually honest disagreement over the fact that objects tend to fall down within a gravity well absent countervailing force Well that is unless one misunderstands the material
>>6027 Bunkerchan is super slow for me. I'll hopefully look into it soon. I'm of the thought that materialist hegelianism is the peak of human thought. I don't think it can be refuted, only transcended. Maybe the way he build his arguments is bunk, but the conclusions seem very sound.
>>6048 I can only guess because I just started the Book, but I think he will argue that, because Hegelian Dialectics can't be refuted, it is dangerous. It serves as a way to justify every Despotical System etc. Completely Bollocks in my Mind, but he is probably an Analytic Faggot
The Cover looks Badass ngl
>>6046 stop embarrassing yourself

/cybersoc/ critical edition Comrade 04/15/2020 (Wed) 07:28:15 No. 1063 [Reply]
ITT we post links and pdfs to critical or constructive takes on Cockshott and cybersocialism, as well as works or authors who wrote in the fields of cybernetics, systems theory, or operational research in general. >>>/leftypol/438911 >>>/leftypol/438923 >>>/edu/850
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Bumping this thread because brainlets on leftypol don't know why their Cockshott threads are being bumplocked
>>1064 Is there a transcript of this? A question for you cybersocs from someone who admittedly doesn't know a lot about cyber socialism: Who chooses/elects/trains the people who build, write and maintain these cybernetic planning systems and accompanying algorithms?
>>1073 >We have so much processing power now, wouldn't it make more sense to have multiple competing models generate different plans and then use some kind of political system to reconcile the differences? This is exactly what Cockshott proposes my man.
Khozraschet concepts can be grouped based on relation of these concepts to: 1) commodity production under socialism 2) economic interests, material stimulation and accountability 3) isolation of economic units 4) autonomy of economic units 5) relationship with the owner of the means of production below is a Morphological Box of the soviet concepts of khozraschet an asterisk indicates cases when the specified concept does not express an attitude to the above concepts 1) relation to the commodity production under socialism a) commodity production is compatible with socialism; b) there is an autonomous turnover of funds, both current and fixed, so business units must operate in the mode of self-financing and self-sufficiency; c) let's assume autonomous turnover of working capital only - business units must operate in self-financing mode; d) commodity production under socialism is limited, the law of value is fully or almost completely controlled by the state - cost indicators are necessary for accounting and monitoring efficiency;

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>>6064 >Khozraschet Curious what's this term in English and what's It's etymology?

Requesting Books on Leadership Comrade 11/11/2020 (Wed) 05:13:17 No. 5665 [Reply]
Anyone know of good books on leadership as an academic field? Analyses of different styles and structures of leadership are welcome as well. None of that self-help, entrepreneurial, hero worship, or landfill literature BS that so often dominates pop culture. Thanks friends.
https://www.psychology.org.au/inpsych/2017/august/power Check the citations for this article to begin with
Lars T. Lih's Lenin Rediscovered: What Is to Be Done? In Context comes to mind. It's a massive, 880 page tome that includes a new translation of what is probably Lenin's "most misunderstood revolutionary text"
>>5671 >"most misunderstood revolutionary text" How so?
>>5671 >Lars T. Lih aint he a trotskyeet

Academia Comrade 11/24/2020 (Tue) 15:25:56 No. 6043 [Reply]
What is the primary contradiction inside Academia? Is it between the Sciences and Humanities or something else?
>>6043 >What is the primary contradiction inside Academia? wdymbt
same as rest of the society from what I hear, profitability versus productivity.
>>6047 Yeah but judging from that alone, you can't differentiate the various Disciplines
The contradiction in academia is disagreement on how best to reproduce the bourgeois and labor aristocracy
>same as rest of the society from what I hear, profitability versus productivity. ding ding ding, although this takes on particular forms in academe Since the middle ages academe has always been defined in large part by an attempt by intellectuals to wrest themselves independent of the control of territorial and economic powers and their demands so that they can think. You can condemn this as a bunch of elite nerds trying to evade social responsibility so they can jerk off, or celebrate it as the human spirit trying to comprehend higher things and achieve species-being against the petty squabbles of local elites, but either way it's been a pretty consistent feature of how academia has developed, and in particular struggles over what institutional forms and so on are adopted. (Actually you can see this struggle extending back even further into monastic organization, at least in the West and I would very strongly wager in Sufi lodges and Buddhist monasteries as well though I'm less familiar with those.) Over the past several decades the autonomy of the universities has been very thoroughly eroded: 1) The usual funding mechanisms - an exponentially increasing number of paying undergrads, with little overhead - has disappeared. 2) Outside political forces want the university to justify itself in outside terms - contributions to innovation in the economy, and so on. Partnerships with various actors for funding has resulted in the usual alternative to the autonomous university/monastery to seep in - private patronage. 3) Internal "productivity" metrics have gotten more and more standardized for research academics (# papers published and citations gotten, in journals whose impact rating has been similarly quantified) and teaching (with teachers, just like other service workers, getting rated by students-cum-customers). You're seeing some pretty blatant attacks on the spirit of tenure done under the heading of wokeness (a heading which in most cases I suspect mostly masks attacks on academics who find themselves unpopular for far more petty reasons), but either way economic forces are eroding tenure anyway. My idle hope is that people who want to think will be able to build new institutions that can withstand this (a tension that will be easier, but still a struggle, to realize under socialism) but if you look at the internet, 1) censorship cynically justified as merely an attack on a few nazis, and far more importantly 2) quantified success metrics are notably growing stronger there as well. (I like posting here because it's one of the few places I can escape those without being surrounded by actual nazis, aside from just sitting in my room and thinking, which is of course important but you gotta think collectively or it all dies in your skull with you.)

The Soviet Archive Historian 03/05/2020 (Thu) 08:20:55 No. 86 [Reply]
Where do you find a comprehensive access to the Soviet archive? I really want to do more research using primary source to debunk reactionaries and Wehraboos. But trawling through the entire thing is just so time consuming. There’s a recurring problem with modern history books (and other entertainment forms) in the Anglo sphere where they always cite Cold War era history works which in turn cite Nazi, gusanos or just made up garbage (The gulag archipelago being the biggest one).
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>>90 Here's another Russian archive: http://istmat.info/
>>91 Welp. All the more reason to finally learn Russian.
>>86 Somebody edit this image and replace fat nk piggy with stalin or something
Ask Zemskov
>>88 what? it's not that hard to get access you say you are doing research for a paper and that is it

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The truth about Stalin Comrade 07/15/2020 (Wed) 17:34:14 No. 2473 [Reply]
I want to learn more about the dogmatism that surrounds Stalin in socialism by looking at the actual historical evidence. I know there are books by Grover Furr that discuss this subject. but I want to additionally know what are some books with direct counter-arguments to Grover Furr's claims, and which of Grover Furr's books I should read first. any suggestions? pic unrelated.
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>>6032 Oh and one more thing: What's suspicious to me is that while they call Furr an irrelevant crank, the academic history community has gone out of their way to excessively debunk Holocaust deniers like Irving. With Furr, they don't do this, which gives the indication that there is probably some meat to his arguments.
He was the asshole of the group. He didn't have a firm line and shifted often to the position that was to be favored by the majority. His first concern was to secure power for himself and then everything else was to be done. He also kinda turned marxism-leninism into a creed, not to be further developed.
>>6034 However this is to say, the "opposition" was no real alternative, as they were a bunch of armchair fags loving to endlessly debate, yet not doing anything proper. They wouldn't have industrialized the country in time and probably would be annihilated by nazi Germany. They were dengists before Deng (especially Bukharin).
>>6035 However again, Trotsky was calling for more power to the industry already at the end of 1922, when NEP went into full force and he was against a huge compromise with the peasantry. Trotsky established the victorious Red Army, he could perhaps also be competent in dealing with Nazis - maybe even more so and would avoid catastrophic defeats in Minsk, Kyiv, Leningrad ...
>>6032 I recall Grover Furr early in his research went in expecting some of the liberal propaganda to be true and was shocked at how it was mostly made up and that gave him his conviction that it's all bullshit You can hear the shock in his voice when he says it, like he was reliving that moment of truth

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Free Trade vs. Protectionism Anonymous 11/17/2020 (Tue) 14:09:54 No. 5954 [Reply]
<The question of Free Trade or Protection moves entirely within the bounds of the present system of capitalist production, and has, therefore, no direct interest for us socialists who want to do away with that system. >Indirectly, however, it interests us inasmuch as we must desire as the present system of production to develop and expand as freely and as quickly as possible: because along with it will develop also those economic phenomena which are its necessary consequences, and which must destroy the whole system: misery of the great mass of the people, in consequence of overproduction. This overproduction engendering either periodical gluts and revulsions, accompanied by panic, or else a chronic stagnation of trade; division of society into a small class of large capitalist, and a large one of practically hereditary wage-slaves, proletarians, who, while their numbers increase constantly, are at the same time constantly being superseded by new labor-saving machinery; in short, society brought to a deadlock, out of which there is no escaping but by a complete remodeling of the economic structure which forms it basis. >From this point of view, 40 years ago Marx pronounced, in principle, in favor of Free Trade as the more progressive plan, and therefore the plan which would soonest bring capitalist society to that deadlock. But if Marx declared in favor of Free Trade on that ground, is that not a reason for every supporter of the present order of society to declare against Free Trade? If Free Trade is stated to be revolutionary, must not all good citizens vote for Protection as a conservative plan? >If a country nowadays accepts Free Trade, it will certainly not do so to please the socialists. It will do so because Free trade has become a necessity for the industrial capitalists. But if it should reject Free Trade and stick to Protection, in order to cheat the socialists out of the expected social catastrophe, that will not hurt the prospects of socialism in the least. Protection is a plan for artificially manufacturing manufacturers, and therefore also a plan for artificially manufacturing wage laborers. You cannot breed the one without breeding the other. >The wage laborer everywhere follows in the footsteps of the manufacturer; he is like the "gloomy care" of Horace, that sits behind the rider, and that he cannot shake off wherever he go. You cannot escape fate; in other words, you cannot escape the necessary consequences of your own actions. A system of production based upon the exploitation of wage labor, in which wealth increases in proportion to the number of laborers employed and exploited, such a system is bound to increase the class of wage laborers, that is to say, the class which is fated one day to destroy the system itself. In the meantime, there is no help for it: you must go on developing the capitalist system, you must accelerate the production, accumulation, and centralization of capitalist wealth, and, along with it, the production of a revolutionary class of laborers. Whether you try the Protectionist or the Free Trade will make no difference in the end, and hardly any in the length of the respite left to you until the day when that end will come. For long before that day will protection have become an unbearable shackle to any country aspiring, with a chance of success, to hold its own in the world market. - Engels, writing in 1888 https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1888/free-trade/index.htm The world has changed, free trade has enabled countries like China to build up its productive forces. However, the "necessary consequences" do not seem to have materialised fully. Along with free trade, we have gotten increased inter-dependence, exchange of information, global policing, surveillance, etc. How can the proletariat of one country stand up against its national bourgeoisie if there are countries willing to ignore sovereignty and help the counter-revolutionaries? These things seemed more possible when each and every person was not tracked and listened to through a cell phone or laptop. Engels says that in Marx's time the free trade position was the revolutionary one? Does that still hold true today?
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>>5957 how can you have a free flow of goods and services without a race to the bottom in terms of wages, whatever country has the lowest wages is where industry will relocate
>>5954 Engels really nails it on the head, but it requires some detangling. Ultimately, the question is dubious in so much that whichever sort of trade the bourgeoise decide, it will never be in service of us. We can only benefit through trade's side effects. Engels in his support of protection, holds ambivalence, and justifies the policy practically. In practice, protection generates more wage labourers, thus protection is beneficial in this sense. Seeing that free trade and protection are themselves not absolutes, it makes it hard to scrutinise which policy to support like Marx & Engels. Many people can give their economic reasons for supporting either case, but within the practical context of developing class power, the answer is dubious. I know in the case of Trump's protectionism, which is the most recent example of protection, it did significantly increase the amount of wage labourers. The United States is a post-industrial economy. Its uses of protection is purely political in nature. While at the same time, free trade has come with the effects of deindustrialisation and the degradation of living standards.
>>5998 *did not
>>5980 what difference does it make. there will at least be some countries where the quality of life is good enough so that people will fight back against the drastic reforms against workers that are inevitable under capitalism.
>>6003 Those reforms are impossible when porky can move factories from one place to another, in fact it makes class struggle impossible, just look as the state of UAW.

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