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AU 0:26 / 10:17 The Bronze Age Collapse - Systems Collapse - Extra History Historian 03/28/2020 (Sat) 15:17:53 No. 68 [Reply]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkMP328eU5Q >The Bronze Age Collapse - Before the Storm - Extra History - #1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMBM1qazAXE >The Bronze Age Collapse - The Wheel and the Rod - Extra History - #2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-8uv4D7cOE >The Bronze Age Collapse - Fire and Sword - Extra History - #3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HaqpSPVhW8 >The Bronze Age Collapse - Systems Collapse - Extra History - #4

Historian 03/05/2020 (Thu) 03:30:28 No. 42 [Reply]
Reminder that this bad boy was responsible for modern international law. Say thank you.
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Nicky II and his whole damn family deserved all they got. fuck the law and fuck the tsar
>>46 Fucking this. Learning international law made me hate this tennis playing faggot even more.
>>49 don't insult my boy puyi like that
>>47 Lol having different coloured facial hair is completely natural bro. I have brown hair but my beard is red. There is a reason they called Vikings things like "Redbeard". You think that happened if he also had red normal hair?
>couldn't even organise his own coronation party without a massacre >couldn't even consummate an heir >couldn't win a war >couldn't run an economy >listen to boomer uncle and run counter to the grain of history resulting in the destruction of ancient royal line. Nicholas 2 Haemophilia boogaloo is the biggest cuck in history

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Zapatista Historian 03/24/2020 (Tue) 21:26:19 No. 108 [Reply]
General on the Zapatista. How were they back then? How are they now?
I am glad that they fought against the Mexican state. I am pissed that they didn't do anything more than secure a cluster of villages in a jungle. I am disappointed they refuse to make use of revolutionary theory (and I don't accept their "indigenous uniqueness" as an excuse). I am unimpressed that their main purpose for existence seems to be for selling coffee to hipsters. (I do really like Rage Against The Machine, but come on, guys.)

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French """"history"""" Historian 02/29/2020 (Sat) 16:59:14 No. 185 [Reply]
It's that time of the month again, time to laugh at France for everytime they fuck up and for being reactionary cunts who either fuck up Europe's largest social revolution or being the biggest Nazi ass-kissers. Let's not forget the mutinies during WW1, the slaughter of African conscripts after WW2, declaring communism illegal after getting a generally elected communist government in the 1936 election, having the most useless resistance in Europe despite even countries like the Czechs killing Heydrich and the Yugoslavian and Russian Partisans while also having the highest number of collaborators of any occupied country, manufacturing 60% of all German armaments during WW2, purposefully destroying all of Syria's infrastructure before they left in the 1970s, selling weapons to Portugal so they could kill leftist rebels in their colonies despite NATO placing a ban on sales to Portugal etc.
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>>185 Where can you learn this? In HS we are only told lib shit like not everybody was a resistant or a collaborator, but of course there was emphasis on the resistants and De Gaulle.
>>189 Most resistants were communists, the only one who collaborated were bougies, in fact, the surrender was a tacit alliance of the national bourgeoisie of both countries.
>>189 De Gaulle is the world's biggest ass kisser and opportunist(not that kind BORDIGA). Even before the war he wrote token books on the future of armoured warfare which was just watered-down versions of already existing tactics from british armour theorists just so he could get a promotion, during WW2 the only reason why he led the Free French was cause he happened to be lazying about in England while France fell and was more a power grab then him wanting to liberate France, remember this is the same guy who said Brittany couldn't separate from France while simultaneously telling Quebec to separate from Canada. Also I'd say there was more collaborators than resistance. Even during the fall of France the French army during its massive retreat south looted their own towns and villages so then the towns would welcome the Germans who would stop the looting. Seriously how fucking stupid are you when you make the literal Nazis look like the heroes? Add on top of that the fact that they tried giving their entire navy to the Germans before the Armistice was even signed and was only stopped cause the British smelled bullshit and blew up the French fleet, and that during the war Allied and Soviet spies would approach factory owners in occupied countries to get the keys to the factory so they could blow it up, in every other occupied country even the bourg hated the nazis more than profit but in France when approached the factory owners would call the Gestapo to have the spies arrested. What fucking dicks. Also how many times was Göring in Paris lounging on his fat ass? In Czechoslovakia the resistance basically killed itself to kill Heydrich, in Russia they would suicide bomb the hotels German generals were staying at even for a minor general, meanwhile the fucking Reichsmarschall is on vacation in Paris for the entire war and the French resistance did jack diddly squat.
>>191 What is it about frogs that makes them so damn dirty?
>>185 How about this complete and utter shitshow? They did it just because they got triggered about people exposing the shady shit they do while testing nukes in coral atolls. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_Rainbow_Warrior

Historian 03/15/2020 (Sun) 05:01:32 No. 201 [Reply]
>watch history video about russian civil war >goes out of its way to equate bolshevik and white side >whites killed jews and raped and pillaged peasant villages >but remember the reds were bad too! https://youtu.be/F1xioXWb8CY?t=1144
https://youtu.be/QBmm4D907Xw?t=773 it happens multiple times in the same series
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it wasn't all bad. I learned that churchill referred to socialists as baboons
>>201 Fuck those channels, the writers of these videos should be hanged from every tree
>>201 disgusting just imagine if wars would have been fought with command obeying robots instead in history somehow
>>201 >YouTube “historians” Absolutely cringe. But you ain’t see nothing yet as the sequel of this channel is just straight up Cold War tier propaganda of ww2.

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Historian 02/29/2020 (Sat) 10:14:50 No. 212 [Reply]
Can anyone tell me how belgium managed to get the congo. How did britain and France even allowed this to happen?
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>>214 I could be wrong about this but wasn't the Congo considered so hostile to (Western) life that it was thought to be basically worthless? Like, it was basically thought to be one big "here be dragons" zone.
>>214 Remember that accurate mapping of the continent was not finished at the time and European powers still used rather archaic methods to determine where borders were One infamous example was when during a debate over where Mozambique ended and Tanzania began the Portuguese diplomat just slapped his hand down on the table and said everything west of his thumb was Tanzania and everything East Mozambique (or something else to that effect) The offical treaty saying where Leopold Congo began and ended was about as equally weird. It basically said everything between Congo’s two main rivers belonged to Belgium this was before they likely knew that the “Two main rivers” basically encircled the entire Congo basin Also Leopold did wage a minor war against the Sultan of Zanzibar over whether Eastern Congo belonged to his rubber plantation or to the Sultans slave traders >>215 It was considered incredibly dangerous yes. But people did know about the pure amount of raw / Rare materials that could be found inside The majority of the Belgium settlements in this period snaked along the river usually with creative names like “#1-#2-#3” with the idea that they would harvest material and send it up river to the main port where it could then be shipped to Belgium
>>214 Belgian Congo was a buffer state between a bunch of other colonial Empires. France wouldn't be happy with Germany getting the Congo and connecting Cameroon with East Africa, and both countries didn't want Britain to get it, but all three Empires could live with Belgium getting it and checking their rivals' expansion.
It's actually because the Congo was technically a private venture originally, Leopold just had a bunch of bankers and merchants buy up the land and Leopold himself owned it personally not Belgium, Belgium only took it over technically after an American newspaper blew the whistle on the place. The reason why Britain and France let him get away with it is because basic ancap logic "You can't declare war on me, that's in violation of the NAP since this is my land, not the states, statist"
Because both England and France wanted it but also didn't want either to have it so they decided to give it to Leopold on the condition that it be his private property and not of belgium and that he continues producing and selling rubber to both.

KPAM Thread Historian 03/01/2020 (Sun) 17:31:36 No. 263 [Reply]
What are your thoughts on the Korean People’s Association in Manchuria, an anarchist zone in Manchuria
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>>270 The KPAM Had entirely ceased to exist by 1949
>>271 Oh I'm sorry, I erroneously followed the link here >>264 An added source of confusion is that the flags of both experiments were identical: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_People%27s_Association_in_Manchuria (1929–1931) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Republic_of_Korea (1945–1946)
>>270 The KPAM in Shinmin region was defeated by pro-KMT warlord general Zhang Xueliang and the Japanese imperialists in 1931. >>272 >the flags of both experiments were identical Only according to recent English Wikipedia edits from 2019. Also the PRK and its committees were made up of communists, socdems, nationalists etc. and not anarchists. They were supported by the Soviets in the north, while the US forces dismantled them in the south and established the United States Army Military Government in Korea.
>In China there was a booming nationalist movement, quite anti-communist in nature, headed by the Guomindang, in which some anarchists participated, although downplaying their anarchism, under constant threat of being purged and concentrating in relatively safe havens such as Quanzhou. While fully immersed in radical circles in China, most Korean anarchists systematically opted to side with anti-communist nationalists. There may have been a number of reasons for this. The nationalist discourse would have been closer to their own longing for national liberation. They may have seen better opportunities to advance their autonomous social projects with them as opposed to a communist movement which they saw largely controlled by the Soviet Union. >Undoubtedly, the fact that Korean anarchism developed in the 1920s, when globally the anarchist movement started a long decline (which also affected the anarchist movements in China and Japan) and the communist parties, led by the Soviet revolutionary example were gaining momentum and filled the vacuum left by anarchism’s retreat, played a significant role in the hostility of many an anarchist against working with communists. This was intensified as news of the suppression of anarchists in Soviet Russia reached Korean anarchists, an experience they learned from a Russian anarchist in China, Vasily Eroshenko, who paradoxically would later in the decade return to Russia and work with Communist Party cultural initiatives. In Manchuria there was a tense alliance with nationalists and active hostility against the communist guerrillas, which lasted until the Japanese invasion of 1931. >But there were also other reasons, more practical in nature, for the Korean anarchists’ rejection of communists. In the case of anarchists in China, particularly since the bloody purge of communists led by the Guomindang after the Shanghai strike of 1927, they had to distance themselves from communists (anarchists would be labelled as “cousins” of communists by conservative nationalists) and thus downplay important aspects of the universal anarchist credo, such as its insistence in revolutionary means, class struggle, and the struggle against the State. In this process, Kropotkin’s ideas of mutual aid, of combining manual and intellectual labour, and his view of an anarchist modernity in which industrialisation would take place in harmony with the development of the countryside, offered a vision which could appeal to the nationalist aspirations of their constituency without risking exposing dangerous ‘communist’ overtones. >The Japanese progressive invasion of China since 1931, which started in Manchuria, represented a big challenge but also a big opportunity for Korean anarchists. On the one hand, they lost a safe haven they’ve had for nearly a decade, free of the Japanese repressive State, but also it turned the national liberation question into a political imperative. Whatever goals Korean anarchists had on their top priorities, none were possible under Japanese colonialism and the liberation of Korea was a necessary precondition for any of them. The military triumph of China over Japan too became then a precondition for the liberation of Korea, for the conditions to lay out the foundations of the new society. With this in mind, they started in 1936 to discuss ideas for a united national front with all sectors opposing Japanese colonialism. In 1937, the outbreak of the Sino-Japanese war and the second united front between the Guomindang and the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), paved the way for Koreans to emulate this unity. If Chinese nationalists and communists could cooperate, why not Koreans? Furthermore, the experience of national fronts in other countries threatened by fascism was also followed attentively by anarchists. >Anarchists became engaged in armed struggle and terror attacks directed against collaborators and Japanese military and civilian officers in the 1930s. Eventually, in 1941, after some years of a joint experience with other independence and socialist groups -the Korean communists, who were then affiliated to the CCP conspicuously absent-, prominent anarchists joined the rather conservative nationalist Korean Provisional Government in China, in the name of the unity of the anti-Japanese forces. Yu Rim, one of the anarchists in the government, had actually met in 1937 and 1938 with Mao Zedong and the Chinese Communist Party with an eye to foster cooperation, but eventually these meetings came to nothing. Anarchists were indeed divided in regard to alliances, some leaning more towards working with conservatives, others towards socialists and even communists. Some guerrillas formed by anarchists, despairing at the ineffectiveness and inability (unwillingness?) of both the Guomindang and the Korean Provisional Government to fight the Japanese, ended up going to Yan’an to fight the Japanese with the support of the Chinese Communist Party. These tensions and contradictions in relation to alliances were reflected in the post-1945 trajectories of some of the leading anarchists fighters and activists of this period: some anarchists, such as Yu Ja-Myeong, ended up having prominent roles in the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, others occupied important posts in the South Korean military, such as Bak Giseong, and yet others ended up as activists in South Korea suffering from perennial persecution and hardship, such as Jeong Hwaam (p.148). https://blackrosefed.org/review-korean-anarchism/
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>>274 See page 48 to 55 of the pdf for more information on the Korean anarchists in Manchuria

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/Pandemic/ history Historian 03/02/2020 (Mon) 06:47:43 No. 276 [Reply]
What Pandemic is Corona similar to? I can't think of any off the bat. I think Corona being high spread, but less lethal kinda makes it kinda unique. Also, post anything you want relating to Pandemics, its effects on shaping human history etc etc.
Well, since the current scientific name is SARS-CoV-2, it implies that there were a similar predecessor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2
>>276 it's not bubonic plague levels yet probably because wh*te people learned to shower since then, I think it will be like the swine flu from 2009 at the most https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic I don't really see it getting that bad though, people shower now and with the internet giving everyone easier access to this information it's more likely that people will see a doctor
>>278 >wh*te Back to Reddit.
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>>279 I tried to be nice and say at least now they know how to shower, but that's wrong too
>>280 This post is a prime example of Twitter brainrot.

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Literary and oral history Historian 02/29/2020 (Sat) 16:26:18 No. 293 [Reply]
>we demand free toilet paper now because we have anuses Has there ever before been such a clear succinct demand for to each according to their needs of a universal human property?
why do you keep spamming this shit book
>>293 You have a hand, don't you?


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