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 No.10452[Reply]

Recently got this book, because it sounded interesting and reading the first pages I found it to be promising. So I'm dropping it in here. Perhaps we can talk about it.

It's a collection of essays by Evald Ilyenkov, a Soviet philosopher, who acted as a figure to make Hegel's role in Marxism understandable and accessible to the general public.
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 No.12647

>>10452
>Evald Ilyenkov
I like some of his stuff but he's a bit too much of a hegelian for me. I lean towards the anti Humanist stances, kinda like althusser though I think his structuralism leans too far much into postmodern positions and his comments on political economy can be retarded especially on the productive relations. their was a brand of anti Humanist sentiment within the early Soviet Union though (prolekult specifically, though I have my issues with them).
>>10650
> i never read any hegel, only marx+lenin+stalin
Have you ever thought about reading Plekhanov before?

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>>12647
Say what you want about Althusser, but he put anti-humanism into practice

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 No.21001

David Bakhurst - Discussing "Ilyenkov's Hegel" from "The Heart of the Matter"

Nov 26, 2023 David is author of the ground-breaking "Consciousness and Revolution in Soviet Philosophy: From the Bolsheviks to Evald Ilyenkov". He is George Whalley Distinguished University Professor and John and Ella G. Charlton Professor of Philosophy at Queen's university, Ontario.

In this discussion we focus on his essay "Ilyenkov's Hegel", from his latest book "The Heart of the Matter: Ilyenkov, Vygotsky, and the Courage of Thought". The essay helps to situate Ilyenkov in his philosophical context and explore some of his goals and motivations.

 No.21599

I saw + read this article, have very minimal thoughts about it. Anyone else seen it?
https://cosmonautmag.com/2023/08/what-contradictions-cannot-be/

It critiques dialectical logic, specifically the concept of 'contradiction'. Specifically goes against Ilyenkov a few times too.

Personally it wasn't that interesting, from the start it makes clear that the only contradiction they will be talking about is formal contradiction, like "it is sunny today" vs "it is not sunny today". And later on it quotes Marx and mentions how when Marx says 'contradiction' he really could have just called it a social conflict or something. This is basically my view as well - it's not that useful to talk about contradictions, we have in the material realm, conflicts, and in the linguistic/theoretical realm, unresolveable issues of definition, of identity and non-identity and their interrelation. To me that's the heart of dialectics, the fact that any given thing's claim to total integrity as a concept is ultimately indefensible, yet difference is still maintained. That's the kind of 'contradiction' I see, the contradiction between the truth of any definition and it's failure to faithfully capture the reality it attempts to enclose, either because of deficits, broadness, or internal difference. It's all about that difference and identity. Do these concepts come before those of formal logic? It seems like a meta-logic, because the question of contradiction is of an abstract claim about reality being contradicted by another exactly opposite claim, it's about the negation of the original claim, and the paradox between that negation and the relative validity of the claim. Anyways I might be off on this last thought idk.



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 No.14131[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

the way i explain the labor to people is very simple. I cut straight to the chase.

I say these things, usually not all at once. I let people chew on each one:

> 1 If you’re a boss, and you own a business, you have to pay the worker less than their work is worth.

> 2 If you pay them exactly what their work is worth, you don’t make any money, your business won’t grow, and you’ll get bought out by some asshole who pays workers less.
> 3 If you pay a worker more than their work is worth, you’re losing money, your business will shrink, and you’ll go out of business.
> 4 the problem is the system, because the way the system is set up, workers have to beg for a job from people who own the places we work at, and the bosses only give the job to the lowest bidder, the people willing to do the most in exchange for the least in return.
> 5 everybody who can't get a job has to keep looking for a job until they get so desperate they start selling themselves for less and less
> 6 even with how little they pay us they think it's too much. so they constantly look for ways to make more money and pay less money.
> 7 they send our jobs overseas to where the labor is cheaper, and they want us to blame the people overseas even though they're the ones sending the jobs off and calling themselves job creators while they do it
> 8 they hire a bunch of overeducated nerds to make machines and programs to do our jobs for us, so they can fire us, and then they take credit for what those nerds make
> 9 they give the jobs to people who just got here and are usually running away from some fucked up shit like war and are therefore more desperate than even the average schmuck here is
> 10 despite all this shit they do to get rid of us or make us work for less money, they still need to sell the stuff they make, and if everyone's too poor to buy that shit, then they gotta lower the price
> 11 the faster they make stuff, the cheaper that stuff is because less work goes into makin it, and money is just a piece of paper that says some work got done
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 No.21587

Some of you should go tabling sometime.

 No.21590

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Nice thread OP. I've been becoming a leftist only very recently mostly because of youtube videos and truth be told I rarely if ever feel like reading nonfiction. To me reading ten bazillion pages of theory just feels beyond fucking boring, so stuff like this is what I live for. Thanks.

 No.21592

>>21590
if you don't want to read capital, then just read "Wage Labour and Capital" which was specifically made for working people to have a brief idea

 No.21593

>>14166
>When people demand higher wages prices go up anyways
<he hasn't read Value, Price and Profit

 No.21594

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>>21590
I've been on this board for like 6 years and never read anything but the manifesto, you'll be fine :^)



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 No.21557[Reply]

Do you guys have any books that highlight the cleverness of Soviet warfare in WW2 that dispute the Zerg rush narrative of the West? As far as I know the allies had all of their information of what was going on on the eastern front from Germans who overembelished their military prowess and downplayed those of the Soviets.
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 No.21576

>>21575
do you get paid to post garbage like this or you just have severe brainrot?

 No.21578

>>21576
Even worse, he does it for free because he's a literal NPC.

 No.21579

>>21575
none of these points you made are based on facts and just spewing shit like enemy at the gates, a movie, is a documentary.

 No.21581

>>21573
>The barbarism of the Soviet occupying forces can best be judged by the fact that many thousands of Hungarian men were raped or forced to unnatural excesses by Russian women soldiers. The Reds established a recreation camp near Kecskemét for more than thirty thousand sick and convalescent women members of the Soviet army and the police forces. From this camp, for instance, the Russian women banded together at night and swooped down on the surrounding hamlets, kidnapping the men and sometimes holding them captive for days.
Hawt



 No.338[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

All good communists study math.

What are you studying right now? What is your favorite field of mathematics and why?

Personally, I really like the book "Linear Algebra Done Right" by Sheldon Axler. It is on Libgen if you are interested and I attached a pdf.
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 No.20887

>>20884
Oh it's the same here, and I assume that's the way it's taught everywhere, I was just too dumb to actually learn it when it was taught…

 No.20937

How are you supposed to read maths books that do not have exercises? Exercises are usually good enough to hammer the content into my brain but when there are no exercises I just forget it as soon as I am finished reading.

 No.21545

What do I need to study for operators? Stuff like "factoring an operator". I understand the analogy but I would like some justification for it.

 No.21546

>>21545
I mean what field of maths is this included in, linear algebra?

 No.21553

Can someone explain to me what "Third curvature" is, how it is different from Total Curvature (I'm not even sure about that either) and how it relates to Space-Time?



 No.2085[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

If you know French or German, please contribute a chapter to /leftypol/'s first crowdsourced translation project! This project started on >>691.

The book is Karl Kautsky's history of the French Revolution, originally published as Die Klassengegensätze im Zeitalter der Französischen Revolution in 1889. Coming from the "Pope of Marxism", as Kautsky was then known, this text likely had an immense influence on Lenin and other revolutionaries of his day. It was approved by Engels himself, and may have been foundational in establishing the Marxist theory of bourgeois revolution, yet it has never been translated into English. The original German is available here: https://www.marxists.org/deutsch/archiv/kautsky/1908/frev/index.html and an old French translation is available here: https://www.marxists.org/francais/kautsky/works/1889/00/antagonismes-table.htm

What makes this work especially good for us to translate is that it's relatively short - just around 60 pages in total, divided into 10 chapters. With each chapter being 5-7 pages each, it is conceivable to translate a chapter in one day's volunteer work. Comrade Akko has already translated the preface, and is working on chapter 1. That leaves 9 chapters to complete:

Preface: Complete!
Chapter 1: Second draft complete (French)
Chapter 2: Draft complete (French) - Proofreading complete (English)
Chapter 3: Draft complete (French) - Proofreading in progress (English) - Proofreader needed
Chapter 4: Draft complete (French) - Proofreading complete (English)
Chapter 5: Draft complete (French) - Proofreading complete (English)
Chapter 6: Draft complete (French) - Proofreading in progress (English) - Proofreader needed
Chapter 7: Draft complete (French) - Proofreading in progress (English) - Proofreader needed
Chapter 8: Complete! (Copyrighted work, permission secured)
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 No.10288

>>10146
This children's cartoon is literally how grown ass adults in Yurop and Murica actually see this crisis.

 No.11961

>>10288
kiddie things for infantile people

 No.20219

Anyone have Russian translations they need?

 No.21534

Help with Vietnamese translation of US propaganda during the 1960s? Thanks
(Posted in SEA thread here:)
>>>1744976

 No.21535

>>21534
fuck man I tried three times to link that post. Is this right?
>>>/leftypol/1744976



 No.21422[Reply]

What are you genuine thoughts on Limonov, if you've encountered his writings? Do you think his philosophy is an understandable reaction to modern hyper individualist capitalism?
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 No.21480

>>21468
>where do i start?
>i don't speak russian
well, it's not some political theory. you can start wherever you want. Limonov was predominantly novelist and poet and then politician.

But since you don't speak Russian, I can only recommend you "It's me Eddie" because I don't know about any other of his works being translated to English.

 No.21484

>>21468
>>21480
It's Me Eddie is very very good.

 No.21513

This is en exerpt of It's Me Eddie, which is a story about his experience in New York in the 80's. This is set in a cafe he worked where bankers and rich mediamen frequented.

>"It is they who have introduced a plague into this world."

>"The plague of money."
>"The disease of money."
>"The plague of buying and selling is their handiwork."
>"I hate this system."
>"And I am not ashamed that my hatred has sprung from my wifes betrayal."
>"I clear away your leftovers, while my wife fucks. And you amuse yourself with her for the sole reason that there is inequality."
>"She has a cunt for which there are buyers - you. And I don't have a cunt."
>"I'm going to blow up your world."

 No.21514

hahahaha

cuck

 No.21518

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>Limonov

Obligatory:



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 No.21415[Reply]

When I got to Kant, I couldn't understand a thing, not a single thing: "transcendental idealism," "numena," "phenomena," "antinomies," "categories"-they all danced in my head like mysterious monsters. I grasped some of what Kant said about "man as an end in himself" and the "categorical imperative." But this categorical imperative looked to me like a cold piece of intestine, which you could fill with whatever you wanted, there was nothing living or vital here, nothing that would give a living answer to living questions.
Or maybe, it's just that I don't understand. Maybe my own intestine is too frail, maybe I'm not up to it. The pages of the book seemed to me an elaborate code I would never be able to decipher.
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 No.21419

Don't bother understanding it. You'll only be trying in vain to understand basic and obvious truths contained within a gigantic mess of utter schizophrenic nonsense. You may as well read ancient scripture.

 No.21420

>>21419
>Don't bother understanding it. You'll only be trying in vain to understand basic and obvious truths contained within a gigantic mess of utter schizophrenic nonsense. You may as well read ancient scripture.
Lol how I feel about every wanna be prophet Euro philosopher who makes up pages of jargon..

 No.21421

>>21415
Read a secondary text first maybe?

 No.21503

>>21419
Lmao this exactly

 No.21506

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>When I got to Kant, I couldn't understand a thing, not a single thing: "transcendental idealism," "numena," "phenomena," "antinomies," "categories"
This but with Hegel



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 No.15841[Reply]

What is your position on this?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debate_over_the_atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki

On 26 July 1945, United States President Harry S. Truman, British Prime Minister Winston Churchill and President of China Chiang Kai-shek issued the Potsdam Declaration, which outlined the terms of surrender for the Empire of Japan as agreed upon at the Potsdam Conference. This ultimatum stated if Japan did not surrender, it would face "prompt and utter destruction".[1] Some debaters focus on the presidential decision-making process, and others on whether or not the bombings were the proximate cause of Japanese surrender.

Over the course of time, different arguments have gained and lost support as new evidence has become available and as new studies have been completed. A primary and continuing focus has been on whether the bombing should be categorized as a war crime or as a crime against humanity. There is also the debate on the role of the bombings in Japan's surrender and the U.S.'s justification for them based upon the premise that the bombings precipitated the surrender. This remains the subject of both scholarly and popular debate, with revisionist historians advancing a variety of arguments. In 2005, in an overview of historiography about the matter, J. Samuel Walker wrote, "the controversy over the use of the bomb seems certain to continue".[2] Walker stated, "The fundamental issue that has divided scholars over a period of nearly four decades is whether the use of the bomb was necessary to achieve victory in the war in the Pacific on terms satisfactory to the United States."[2]

Supporters of the bombings generally assert that they caused the Japanese surrender, preventing massive casualties on both sides in the planned invasion of Japan: Kyūshū was to be invaded in November 1945 and Honshū four months later. It was thought Japan would not surrender unless there was an overwhelming demonstration of destructive capability. Those who oppose the bombings argue it was militarily unnecessary,[3] inherently immoral, a war crime, or a form of state terrorism.[4] Critics believe a naval blockade and conventional bombings would have forced Japan to surrender unconditionally.[5] Some critics believe Japan was more motivated to surrender by the Soviet Union's invasion ofPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.15887

>>15864
My brother in Christ you have adopted one of W. E. B. Du Bois's worst takes

 No.15888

Japan didn't surrender because of the nukes. Japan surrendered because they lost the control of the seas and the USSR was kicking their ass in Machuria and they felt it was better to surrender to the US than to the USSR.

 No.15889

>>15883
>"the Japanese" is a monolithic entity that collectively did anything
Actually even though their higher command was extremely factional and disunited so much so that it's really because of the decision of some general that Japan entered in a war against China, and that the higher ups only green lighted the attack on Pearl Harbor because they knew they would get shafted by the military if they didn't, Japan has probably the most nationalistic and jingoist population that existed in modern times. Kids were brainwashed with military propaganda and racist ideology in their school books as soon as they could learn to read, the overwhelming majority of Japanese people were delighted to see their colonial empire expand.

 No.20589

The idea behind terror bombing is demoralizing the enemy. This has, empirically, never worked, and only made the enemy fight harder. But idealists are not deterred by reality. Nukes were used as convenient public justification to surrender to the US rather than wait for the soviet army to fuck them and execute their Emperor, so no, even in the case of nukes it didn't work. Furthermore Operation August Storm was the actual reason the Japanese actually thought resistance was pointless. The Japanese military was so shell-shocked at Khalkin Gol's defeat that they ended all plans of attacking the USSR in the future and signed the Neutrality Pact with them, but I digress

The Japanese hadn't even gotten their reports back on what happened in Hiroshima before they got hit in Nagasaki, they literally had no time to do so. The atomic bombings of Japan had been meant as a "message" to Stalin by Truman in an attempt to scare him. It failed because Stalin had intelligence officers in the Nuclear program and was well aware of its progress, having already made preparations to provide the same for the USSR.

It's not that different compared to fire bombing entire cities, that it was not necessary to end the war fast because Japan was on the brink of surrendering, and that the green-light was given for three main reasons:
1) Testing the bomb against a real target and live population for scientific and military feedback
2) Optimizing the post war US geopolitical position in a Japan that was also being invaded by the USSR
3) Preparing the cold war and sending a message to the world: look what we are capable to do.
The "we had to do it or sacrifice hundreds of thousands of soldiers" is a retcon taught in school to keep the burger fiction about being the good guys

https://www.foxnews.com/world/historians-soviet-offensive-key-to-japans-wwii-surrender-was-eclipsed-by-a-bombs
https://orientalreview.su/2010/08/09/hiroshima-65-years-later/
https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/05/30/the-bomb-didnt-beat-japan-stalin-did/
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 No.21496

>>15867
>Japan now officially has to say they deserved it
Not quite. Japan still denies things like the Nanking Massacre and other war-crimes and insensitive comments from US politicians about Hiroshima and Nagasaki are subject to scandal and subsequent apology, such as in 2010 when the New Hampshire State Representative Nick Levasseur posted a facebook post saying that anime was the reason 2 nukes wasn't enough - and soon after posting a formal apology.



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 No.20974[Reply]

Post all the studies in here that undermine capitalism. Post the title, a summary of the content and share either a link to or a PDF of the study in question.

Capitalism and extreme poverty: A global analysis of real wages, human height, and mortality since the long 16th century
< The common notion that extreme poverty is the “natural” condition of humanity and only declined with the rise of capitalism rests on income data that do not adequately capture access to essential goods.
<Data on real wages suggests that, historically, extreme poverty was uncommon and arose primarily during periods of severe social and economic dislocation, particularly under colonialism.
<The rise of capitalism from the long 16th century onward is associated with a decline in wages to below subsistence, a deterioration in human stature, and an upturn in premature mortality.
<In parts of South Asia, sub-Saharan Africa and Latin America, wages and/or height have still not recovered.
<Where progress has occurred, significant improvements in human welfare began only around the 20th century. These gains coincide with the rise of anti-colonial and socialist political movements.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0305750X22002169
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 No.20995

Does a narcissism epidemic exist in modern western societies? Comparing narcissism and self-esteem in East and West Germany
< Germany was formerly divided into two different social systems, each with distinct economic, political and national cultures, and was reunified in 1989/90. Between 1949 and 1989/90, West Germany had an individualistic culture, whereas East Germany had a more collectivistic culture. The German reunification provides an exceptional opportunity to investigate the impact of sociocultural and generational differences on narcissism and self-esteem.
<Our results showed that grandiose narcissism was higher and self-esteem was lower in individuals who grew up in former West Germany compared with former East Germany. Further analyses indicated no significant differences in grandiose narcissism, vulnerable narcissism or self-esteem in individuals that entered school after the German reunification (≤ 5 years of age in 1989)
https://doi.org/10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0188287

 No.21469

Inflation Revelation: How Outsized Corporate Profits Drive Rising Costs
<A new report claims “resounding evidence” shows that high corporate profits are a main driver of ongoing inflation, and companies continue to keep prices high even as their inflationary costs drop.
<The report, compiled by the progressive Groundwork Collaborative thinktank, found corporate profits accounted for about 53% of inflation during last year’s second and third quarters. Profits drove just 11% of price growth in the 40 years prior to the pandemic, according to the report.
https://groundworkcollaborative.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/24.01.17-GWC-Corporate-Profits-Report.pdf

 No.21477

>This study compared capitalist and socialist countries in measures of the physical quality of life (PQL), taking into account the level of economic development. The World Bank was the principal source of statistical data for 123 countries (97 per cent of the world's population) (…) All PQL measures improved as economic development increased. In 28 of 30 comparisons between countries at similar levels of economic development, socialist countries showed more favorable PQL outcomes.

 No.21478

<Life after Communism: the facts
<Throughout the entire Yeltsin transition period, flight of capital away from Russia totalled between $1 and $2 billion US every month. • Each year from 1989 to 2001 there was a fall of approximately 8% in Russia’s productive assets. • Although Russia is largely an urban society, 3 out of every 4 people grow some of their own food in order to be able to survive. • Male life expectancy went from 64.2 years in 1989 to 59.8 in 1999. The drop in female life expectancy was less severe from 74.5 to 72.8 years. • The increase from 1990 to 1999 in the percentage of people living on less than $1 a day was greater in the former communist countries (3.7%) than anywhere else in the world. • The number of people living in ‘poverty’ in the former Soviet Republics rose from 14 million in 1989 to 147 million even prior to the crash of the rouble in 1998.
https://newint.org/features/2004/04/01/facts

 No.21479

Does anyone here remember some publication by the IMF where they basically officially admitted that neoliberalism failed? It was posted on /leftypol/ a couple years ago and I forgot to save it



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 No.21406[Reply]

Protein Compounds, especially in the gorm of enzyme systems, play a decisive part in metabolism, it is the basis of vital activity for every organism.
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 No.21410

>>21409
Can wheat turn into rye?

 No.21411

>>21406
my cum has protein

 No.21412

>lysenkoism
anti-materialist reactionary pseudoscience on the same tier as flat earth and Qanon

 No.21413

how do you even get a jaw like that with such sunken cheeks
i want that

 No.21414

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>>21413
Get the bucal fat removal. It's all the rage right now.



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