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>The unpaid labour of raising children, labour predominantly done by mothers, is socially essential and all the current generation, whether they have children themselves or not, benefit indirectly from it.
>Gay activists are wont to identify their campaigns with campaigns against women’s oppression, but the economic analysis so far shows that this concept is fallacious. Not only are gay couples financially better off, they also, in the main, often opt out of the socially necessary unpaid labour that is at the root of the disadvantaged position of women/wives. The establishment and normalisation of gay marriage will tend to increase the inequality of men and women in this respect.
>Insofar as a portion of the male population were once covert homosexuals, who would have hidden their preferences, married women and helped to bring up children, they can now move directly into a respectable gay marriage where they are statistically very unlikely to do any unpaid child raising work.
Explain this cyber chads.


Cockshott is a retard.


Moved to >>>/b/73423.

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There are a many reasons why so many Institutions are "woke" now. It was not a sudden accident. Institutions becoming woke is just the economy/culture catching up with what has been implemented as Law half a century ago. And a lot of it has to do with the fact that the USA is a common law country.

>What does common law have to do with it? Why is it so special?

How it works is that the government wrote that you can no longer discriminate based on race, sex, age, race, etc etc. But other than many other countries the government doesn't just institute a flat government-mandated racial or gender quota. What is happening instead is that the Judges rule on precedent. Someone sues, the Judge makes a call and the result of that trial becomes basically "law". It's a mess in modern societies. It used to work really well in more tribal societies, but not in the context of modern society. Corporations basically had to employ their own Bureaucracies, who would keep up with the legal decisions of the common law courts.

But that's not it. Judges aren't absolute rulers, who make calls just based on their whims. They rely on "experts" and "best practices" of current times. So corporations are heavily encouraged to keep up with their competitors, if they want to avoid being sued. To give you an example how vague certain laws are: "To be unlawful, the conduct must create a work environment that would be intimidating, hostile, or offensive to reasonable people." The government doesn't mandate any behaviors here.

This is how a Corporate Bureaucracy grew and became woke. To justify their existence, they have to find new problems.


makes sense


Isnt this what everyone ( communist) already been saying about "woke" culture


Moreover, the capitalist states did not hesitate to adorn the red flags of the class struggle when the workers' movement was powerful, social democracy in its decrepit stage is the best example.

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Masked men leading illegal loyalist parade in Belfast is ‘sinister and concerning,’ Sinn Fein MP says
Loyalists gathered in the Woodvale district on Thursday evening before marching down the Shankill Road in protest against the Northern Ireland Protocol, a key part of British Prime Minister Boris Johnson's Brexit agreement with the European Union that some loyalists believe undermines their Britishness.

Ex-Mossad chief indicates Israel was behind Iranian nuclear facility explosion and military scientist assassination
Addressing the assassination of Fakhrizadeh, Cohen confessed that the Iranian scientist had been a target for intelligence gathering by Mossad “for many years,” as Israel was “most troubled” by his work on Tehran’s nuclear program. The interviewer followed these remarks by claiming that “Yossi Cohen cannot take responsibility for this action, but his personal signature is on the entire operation.”

Russia ‘to supply Iran with advanced satellite’ that could track Israeli bases
The system would be equipped with a camera that would “greatly enhance Iran’s spying capabilities”, the paper said. Targets could include Gulf oil refineries, Israeli military bases and Iraqi barracks that house US troops, the officials said, explaining that the launch could happen within months.

Gaddafi’s son seeks Libyan presidency 10 years after NATO-backed campaign plunged country into chaos – media
Speaking to the paper via telephone, he said he was in good health, and confirmed his relationship with a team of advisers acting on his behalf. Gaddafi is expected to publicly announce his political ambitions in the near future. However, it is still unclear whether he will be allowePost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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What does the 'b' stand for?




>book marx
Nice pun comrade, we shall use it immediately!


Thank you.


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Bookmarks is actually the name of the UK SWP's bookstore in London. Pic related. Took me a while to figure out the pun.

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How exactly is china going to address its aging housing and water crisis in the near future?(please take this discussion to the china general)
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Yeah. I mean I watched that guy's video too, and yeah, it's clearly not ideal for families to have to pool all their resources to buy houses for the younger generations, but that's better than in the west where the young just can't afford housing at all and are permanently trapped in rentier hell.


Yeah, its absolutely insane here, a coworker's house increased by $90k in value in a year, and I live in a town that's something of a national joke; and no politician will address it because for most of the Boomers here their property is the only way they'll finance their retirement. People blame the Chinese but I think they'd be shocked to find out how many of our rental properties are owned by (white) people living in Australia.


cheeky cunt


my picture in >>313799
shows floating solar purifiers that only only need energy for pumping fresh water to land during the night.


Oh I see, I thought you meant solar energy. I guess that's different then, tho I don't know how effective that is

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>What the fuck is happening?

On April 28th, Colombians all over the country started protesting against a tax reform and a health reform placed by Ivan Duque Marquez (who many Colombians see as a puppet to Alvaro Uribe Velez, the former far-right president). One of the things the tax reform would have done was raised the sales tax on things like food and utilities, plus internet and the health reform would have made healthcare in Colombia even harder for people to receive proper healthcare treatment. All of this even when 2.4 million Colombians can't even afford three meals per day, extreme poverty in Colombia is growing, the amount of unemployed Colombians are growing, and not to mention the pandemic going on and Colombia is one of the countries in Latin America that has been hardest by the pandemic. The protests have stopped being about the tax reform since early May, which is why even when Duque withdrew the controversial portions of the tax reform and health reform, the protests continued. Now the protests represent a deeper problem that has been happening in the country for DECADES. Things like corruption in the government, police brutality, paramilitarism, the government response to the pandemic, racism, shit education system, shit healthcare system, Duque's resignation, the removal of Uribismo and Alvaro Uribe in general from any sort of governmental power, AND SO ON are reasons to why people are continuing to protest against the state.

>Okay, what tell me about the government response.

The ESMAD (Mobile Anti-Disturbance Squadron) is the riot police over in Colombia but they are essentially no different than a paramilitary death squad with all the killings, rapes, disappearances, and harm they've caused. The regular police officers have also contributed to the death count and police brutality cases. So in the beginning of the protests, there was a new group in Colombia that call themselves the Primera Linea. They basically wear masks and grab rocks or shields and start fighting against the police and the ESMAD. They tend to consist of younger, poorer individuals who have nothing to lose. Their main domain is in the Puerto Resistencia, an autonomous zone located in Cali, the main battleground of Colombia. These roadblocks have caused goods like food to not be transfered to Cali, so it keeps garnering attention every day from protesters Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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Canada is just the 51st state. There was a poll of Canadian children back when Reagan was in office and the majority of them thought he was their President/PM.

Their soldiers use Colt Canada weapons Canadian digital Canada. Same troops same weapons, same camo, they just toss Canada on the front so they can lie to themselves.



Poor guy


These last couple days the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights was in Colombia investigating the reports on human rights violations. Thursday was their last day here.

Riots broke out in Bogota when the IACHR arrived there.

Colombian Vice President is actually trying to argue that the government had to take away 40,000 weapons away from "le violent protesters" even when it's completely unconfirmed that most of the people who had these weapons had anything to do with the protests.


He's going to have to do ALOT to redeem himself in order to be forgiven for something like that.

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Has anyone else noticed a trend among leftwing circles (even this one to some degree) to admonish, or, diminish the necessity of science over all? I understand we are all, basically, in agreement, par some marginal cases, that, say, global warming is a real phenomena that is exacerbated by the motions of capitalism, however, I have noticed also, to a degree, people, or, leftists who try to reduce, or, marginalize the importance, of, say, astronomy and the work that we put in as people into understanding the origins of the universe, or, understanding things like What Dark Energy and Matter are/is.
To me such things are necessary for understanding our origins and where we want to go as people. Considering that the expansion of the universe is going to make astronomy impossible in the coming centuries I think it's actually pretty important we answer the big questions right here and right now.
We may not have another opportunity to do so.

I can't say for certain that this is happening, or, that this is anything, but, my own personal experience, but, I can't help but shake the feeling that the left has, at best an under-appreciation for the natural sciences and at worst an out right denial of them.

Has anyone else noticed this on the left or is it just me?
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Philosophy in the 20th Century
> Isolated in their ivory towers, the academics pass their lives writing obscure theses which are read, and sometimes answered, by other academics. Few people understand what they write. Fewer still care a damn. Like some antiquated priest-caste with its own secret language, comprehensible only to the initiated, they resort to all kinds of symbols and jargon, which seems deliberately designed not to be understood.
>Ever since Marxism emerged as a significant force, challenging the existing order, the Establishment has declared war on every aspect of Marxist ideology, starting with dialectical materialism. The very mention of Marxism is guaranteed to provoke a knee-jerk reaction in such circles. "Out of date," "unscientific," "disproved long ago," "metaphysics," and all the rest of the threadbare and tiresome litany. Not only are Marx and Engels persona non grata in the hallowed halls of the philosophy department, but poor old Hegel, who was once hailed as the philosopher’s philosopher par excellence, is subjected to a quite shameful conspiracy of silence.
>If we leave aside a few mavericks, such as Henri Bergson, John Dewey, George Santayana and A. N. Whitehead, the great bulk of modern Western philosophy falls into just a couple of categories. On the one hand we have the subjectivist schools related to existentialism, on the other, the various brands of "logical positivism," including linguistic philosophy. The former trend has, in general, had more of an echo in the Latin countries, especially France. The latter, until quite recently, enjoyed widespread support in the Anglo-Saxon world. We shall devote most of our attention to it, because of its pretensiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



Positivism and the Crisis of Western Civilization
The Epistemological Support of Totalitarianism
>Every step forward on the way toward substituting more efficient methods of production for the obsolete methods of the precapitalistic ages met with fanatical hostility on the part of those whose vested interests were in the short run hurt by any innovation. The landed interest of the aristocrats was no less anxious to preserve the economic system of the ancien régime than were the rioting workingmen who destroyed machines and demolished factory buildings. But the cause of innovation was supported by the new science of political economy, while the cause of the obsolete methods of production lacked a tenable ideological basis.

>As all the attempts to prevent the evolution of the factory system and its technological accomplishments aborted, the syndicalist idea began to take shape. Throw out the entrepreneur, that lazy and useless parasite, and hand over all the proceeds—the "whole produce of labor"—to the men who create them by their toil! But even the most bigoted enemies of the new industrial methods could not fail to realize the inadequacy of these schemes. Syndicalism remained the philosophy of illiterate mobs and got the approbation of intellectuals only much later in the guise of British Guild Socialism, Italian Fascism's stato corporativo, and twentieth-century "labor economics" and labor union politics.4

>The great anticapitalistic device was socialism, not syndicalism. But there was something that embarrassed the socialist parties from the early beginnings of their propaganda, their inability to refute the criticism that their schemes met on the part of economics. Fully aware of his impotence in this regard, Karl Marx resorted to a subterfuge. He and his followers, down to those who called their doctrines "sociology of knowledge," tried to discredit economics by their spurious ideology-concept. As the Marxians see it, in a "class society" men are inherently unfit to conceive theories that are a substantially true description of reality. A man's thoughts are necessarily tainted "ideologically." An ideology, in the Marxian sense of the term, is a false doctrine, which, however, precisely on
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> “To exist is to be something, as distinguished from the nothing of non-existence, it is to be an entity of a specific nature made of specific attributes. Centuries ago, the man who was—no matter what his errors—the greatest of your philosophers, has stated the formula defining the concept of existence and the rule of all knowledge: A is A. A thing is itself. You have never grasped the meaning of his statement. I am here to complete it: Existence is Identity, Consciousness is Identification.

> “Whatever you choose to consider, be it an object, an attribute or an action, the law of identity remains the same. A leaf cannot be a stone at the same time, it cannot be all red and all green at the same time, it cannot freeze and burn at the same time. A is A. Or, if you wish it stated in simpler language: You cannot have your cake and eat it, too.

> “Are you seeking to know what is wrong with the world? All the disasters that have wrecked your world, came from your leaders’ attempt to evade the fact that A is A. All the secret evil you dread to face within you and all the pain you have ever endured, came from your own attempt to evade the fact that A is A. The purpose of those who taught you to evade it, was to make you forget that Man is Man.

-John Galt Speech, Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand. 1957

compare to

The ABC of Materialist Dialectics - Leon Trotsky(December 1939)
>Dialectic is neither fiction nor mysticism, but a science of the forms of our thinking insofar as it is not limited to the daily problems of life but attempts to arrive at an understanding of more complicated and drawn-out processes. The dialectic and formal logic bear a relationship similar to that between higher and lower mathematics.
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In case it isn't clear yet.
A ≠ A. This contradicts the fundamental law of identity.

Formal logic is bourgeoisie science.

The principles of Contradiction and Excluded Middle are directly opposed to materialist dialectics.

The First Law of Dialectics is unity and contradiction of opposites.

Read Engels.
Read Lenin.
Read Stalin.
Read Mao.

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Physics is not inherently useless, a lot current developments come from them, like transistors, it's just that current physics, or at least a lot of it is just trying chase beauty, and trying to "improve" a theory that already is correct to 16 decimal places, not by studying its contradictions or flaws, but by trying to simplify some equations and make them "nicer", when the universe in itself need not have "nice" equations. And trying to invest time in grand unifying theories that cannot be proven ever, and don't address fundamental problems.
The best examples are string theory, multiverse interpretations of quantum mechanics, super simetry, all of which either introduce shit we know almost for sure it ain't real, or shit that can't be disproven, or that was refuted in the 90s and now they keep coping by modifying the theory to make it more plausible

Interestingly enough this is what happens with economics as well, which to me it means that even the "hard" sciences have been stuck in the spectacle in the modern times, and they are not as sacred as we stemlords would like them to be

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Official leftypol.org embellishment project
Let's make banners, new themes and favicons for leftypol.org! Let's give this place some colors!

The resolution of the banners is 300x100.
The resolution for the favicon is 15x15.
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do nothing


veeery nerdy, but based


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One important thing that i see on right-wingers is their weird hypocrisy of being pro-hiearchy but having anti-establishment politics.
Everyday, there are always an rightoids who bragging* about how people are not equal, masses are dumb and inferiors should serve the superior while at the same time screaming about how they will live in pods with eating bugs, culture-industry with overconsumerism and conspiracısm like "they will own nothing and they will be happy"
For right-wing theory, masses in large numbers are fucking empty-heads and all civillizations are built by small number of elite-geniuses.For them, inequality is also genetic and they (as anti-egalitarian intellectuals) understand what nationalism/religion is, openly writes what they are (while also supporting them because dumb masses should be anaesthetized by religion and there should be a thing for making masses to support their aristocracy).They openly attack any kind of utilitarianism towards masses,wanting them own as they can live and facefucked hard by aristocracy. But then, now you have rightoids who cries about how they will live in "muh pods" and conspiracısm like "mind-control by 5G"
Why are they doing this ? Isn't that the hiearchy they want ? Aren't they should facefucked by aristocracy and accept that ?
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>there being stronger families wouldn't reduce the inherent economic exploitation of the system itself.
Not him, but wouldn't it? The system is clearly exploitative, so wouldn't a strong family structure at least help out. Obviously having a different system is better, but if you're being exploited then having a family would preferable to being an orphan.


>weird hypocrisy of being pro-hiearchy but having anti-establishment politics.
How is that different from tankies?
They too are anti-establishment (kill the bouge) but pro-hierarchy (strong police state with hierarchical party structure).

I dont see the hypocrisy. They want to establish particular values and use all available force to make them stay that way after being achieved.

>Aren't they should facefucked by aristocracy and accept that ?

They imagine theyll climb the hierarchy, of course. They dont see themselves be at the bottom.


hmmm. noggin be joggin.
The problem is that the current combination of social and economic factors has lead to a hyper-exploitative system that has significantly increased the amount of average suffering a human must go through on earth. The solutions to this problem are many. Everyone from 4^2chans to here agrees the current system is fucked and needs to be at least significantly shifted, if not changed entirely. Some people believe that we failed on the part of maintaining our traditions, and have gotten lost without them. Some people believe the economic system has lead to an increase in suffering. Some people just believe that all society besides hunting, farming, or herding is a fuck. It's not hypocritical to hate the system.



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600,000 dead in the US from COVID-19: American capitalism “normalizes” mass death
>As the United States passes the milestone of 600,000 deaths in the COVID-19 pandemic, the ruling class is abandoning all efforts to contain the disease.


Their half measures have gotten us to this point. Now they want to pretend nothing is happening.

Every step the bourgeoisie take leads to disaster. Soon the working class will reply. For them, there is no pretending.
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Nah dude, it's the commies who want to normalize mindless obedience through preventative measures. The left wing AKA the democrats and wokies made an unholy pact with the inscrutable chinese commies to subjugate the US through the virus.

Now excuse me while I go put a mask under my chin and go trigger some stupid liberal with naught but a cough.

PS: I'm fat because I earned it, you skinny fucking *wheezes* twig!

t. Amerilard


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Much agreed comrade, the growing movement to stop whatever this day's WSWS thread is about, despite increasingly desperate denial from the pseudo-left Pabloite revisionist renegades, is striking fear into the hearts of the global imperialist monopoly bourgeoisie. Global capitalism, now more than 80 years into its terminal death agony, can only be transcended through the fulfillment of the objective historical revolutionary role of the proletariat. The emancipation of the proletariat must be the act of the proletariat itself - under the leadership, of course, of the one true world party of socialist revolution, the International Committee of the Fourth International. In their steadfast struggle against all forms of pseudo-left vulgarizations of revolutionary Marxism, David North and the SEP have won the Rank and File proletariat to a genuine Marxist program. The contradictions of global imperialism threaten a Third World War fought with nuclear weapons, and therefore the fate of not just the working class, but the human species itself, depends on resolutely exposing the Pabloites, Grantites, Cliffites, Healyites, Hansenites, Wohlforthites, Mandelites, Steinerites, and all other forms of counter-revolutionary opportunism blocking the path to left unity and planetary proletarian revolution. We urge all workers, youth, and intellectuals stirred by this call to action to unite in Rank and File Committees and to contact the International Committee today.




>600,000 dead Americans
Not enough

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How did it become so easy for discord raiders, outright other websites and shit to raid shit like 4chan and shit? I feel like I'm not even talking to people online anymore.
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wtf is this meme??


i made it myself you like it?


It certainly is interesting…


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here have another one


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